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Link Posted: 11/29/2019 8:28:44 PM EDT
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Added into article in OP, but on 11/22 the same Senator who’s pushing what this thread is about filed this. Say goodbye to private sales of firearms

https://www.billtrack50.com/BillDetail/1150004
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 8:29:12 PM EDT
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New York...FO time!
New Jersey ...FO time!
California...FO time!
Maryland...FO time!
Massachusetts ...FO time!
Connecticut ...FO time!
Colorado...FO time!
Illinois...FO time!
Hawaii...FO time!
DC...FO time!


Virginia....now its FO time. Nothing is gonna happen, just like nothing has happened in any other state.
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How many people and/or for what duration constitutes deciding Virginians FO'd?

Let's agree on parameters so we can laugh at you if the leftists don't back down.
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 8:34:55 PM EDT
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That violates the 1st and 2nd Amendments. Hang them for treason.
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Violating every citizens' Second Amendment rights requires an appropriate response.  Hanging isn't it.  See: Battles of Lexington and Concord.
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 8:37:19 PM EDT
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Do you really think the newly elected DA will go after AntiFa or other Dem foot soldiers?
No, Evil never goes against other evil.

It will be used against those badthink Virginians that are organizing to resist the left.
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Weeeeelllll...there was the Eastern Front in WWII. That was pretty much the definition of evil vs evil...
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 9:47:00 PM EDT
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"When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Signing for Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot, and Lee Carter Braxton
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 10:32:52 PM EDT
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Added into article in OP, but on 11/22 the same Senator who's pushing what this thread is about filed this. Say goodbye to private sales of firearms

https://www.billtrack50.com/BillDetail/1150004
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has she carried this water before or is gun control a new interest for Meema?
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 10:56:01 PM EDT
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"any technique that could cause injury or death" would include any martial arts class
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I just saw an article about that. (Only read this far; sorry if dupe);

https://secondamendment.news/2019-11-27-tyranny-alert-virginia-to-outlaw-krav-maga-brazilian-jiu-jitsi-kickboxing-firearms-instruction-sb64.html
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 11:10:02 PM EDT
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Just wait until laws are passed dictating what versions of religion are banned.
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I'll wager a bet and say it ain't banning the Religion of Peace....
Link Posted: 11/29/2019 11:22:48 PM EDT
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Someone who is familiar with VA law help me out.  It seems to me, sections 1 and 2 are already law and they are asking for it to be amended, by adding section 3:

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

Currently it reads:

§ 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited.
A person shall be guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder.

1987, c. 720.

§ 18.2-433.3. Exceptions.
Nothing contained in this article shall be construed to apply to:

1. Any act of a law-enforcement officer performed in the otherwise lawful performance of the officer's official duties;

2. Any activity, undertaken without knowledge of or intent to cause or further a civil disorder, which is intended to teach or practice self-defense or self-defense techniques such as karate clubs or self-defense clinics, and similar lawful activity;

3. Any facility, program or lawful activity related to firearms instruction and training intended to teach the safe handling and use of firearms; or

4. Any other lawful sports or activities related to the individual recreational use or possession of firearms, including but not limited to hunting activities, target shooting, self-defense and firearms collection.

Notwithstanding any language contained herein, no activity of any individual, group, organization or other entity engaged in the lawful display or use of firearms or other weapons or facsimiles thereof shall be deemed to be in violation of this statute.

1987, c. 720.

Also, am I correct that sections 1 and 2 have been on the books since 1987?
Link Posted: 11/30/2019 5:24:23 AM EDT
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Damn, some folks in VA want a war.
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And the really shitty thing is, the reality is that the people who are the root cause of this will walk away unscathed. But a bunch of working class people on both sides will forever be changed and normal people will do horrible things to each other.

And whats worse is, I can't see how its really going to change a god damn thing. The insidious part of all of this, is no matter what they win.

Someone goes all in on a redflag, and they immediately say "look at what this lunatic did, he was clearly unfit to own guns so the law is clearly needed". Police then amp up and the next redflag call is going to be dangerous as fuck for whoever the poor fuck is that receives it.

Then people start hiding guns, meaning that they are no longer using them which means they win there too, and if someone does try to go shooting with one, and they get caught and the fuckers win again. You use one to defend your home during a home invasion, and they win again because now you just committed a "crime" while defending yourself from being a victim of a crime.

You assemble to protest this, and are carrying and now you have committed yet another "crime". Same applies to joining a "militia" or some other 2A group and they win yet again.

We as a whole have vastly underestimated these mother fuckers. While we sat here "drinking those lib tears" they were planning and manipulating the next outcome so that they would have the last laugh.

And what really fucks us is the money. They have ideology willing to spend vast amounts of money to further their goals. We don't have that whatsoever. There are just no conservative millionaires/billionaires willing to spend money like the left is to influence elections.

And they fuck us yet again because the company's they own are the most popular in the world, and while we sit here and lament the way they spend their dollars we use the very platforms that make them the money they use against us.
Link Posted: 11/30/2019 6:00:59 AM EDT
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And the really shitty thing is, the reality is that the people who are the root cause of this will walk away unscathed. But a bunch of working class people on both sides will forever be changed and normal people will do horrible things to each other.

And whats worse is, I can't see how its really going to change a god damn thing. The insidious part of all of this, is no matter what they win.

Someone goes all in on a redflag, and they immediately say "look at what this lunatic did, he was clearly unfit to own guns so the law is clearly needed". Police then amp up and the next redflag call is going to be dangerous as fuck for whoever the poor fuck is that receives it.

Then people start hiding guns, meaning that they are no longer using them which means they win there too, and if someone does try to go shooting with one, and they get caught and the fuckers win again. You use one to defend your home during a home invasion, and they win again because now you just committed a "crime" while defending yourself from being a victim of a crime.

You assemble to protest this, and are carrying and now you have committed yet another "crime". Same applies to joining a "militia" or some other 2A group and they win yet again.

We as a whole have vastly underestimated these mother fuckers. While we sat here "drinking those lib tears" they were planning and manipulating the next outcome so that they would have the last laugh.

And what really fucks us is the money. They have ideology willing to spend vast amounts of money to further their goals. We don't have that whatsoever. There are just no conservative millionaires/billionaires willing to spend money like the left is to influence elections.

And they fuck us yet again because the company's they own are the most popular in the world, and while we sit here and lament the way they spend their dollars we use the very platforms that make them the money they use against us.
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What everybody in Va needs to do is stop paying taxes. Why are we paying the very people that are taking our constituitional rights from us. I bet that will get their attention more then firing back.
Link Posted: 11/30/2019 9:33:54 AM EDT
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It is a Bad Bill as written.
Link Posted: 11/30/2019 9:39:09 AM EDT
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Drilling with a mop stick and then lighting afire will qualify also.

Also knowing that by the time the legal case finds its way through the court system, state, then federal, then through the appeals process could be 10 plus years. And they wonder why that there may be a Hootinanny.
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