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Posted: 1/9/2022 11:26:32 PM EDT
Been saying it since they came out.

"the COVID vaccines cause more COVID cases per million (+38% in US) and more deaths per million associated with COVID (+31% in US).

The abstract says:

The statistically significant and overwhelmingly positive causal impact after vaccine deployment on the dependent variables total deaths and total cases per million should be highly worrisome for policy makers. They indicate a marked increase in both COVID-19 related cases and death due directly to a vaccine deployment that was originally sold to the public as the “key to gain back our freedoms.”"

Article about study of 145 countries
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:28:32 PM EDT
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I agree and there will be many more issues because of this vaccine over the next 2-3 years.  Whether people admit to that is a whole other issue.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:35:04 PM EDT
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Those who get the vaccine are 100% more likely to have complications or negative results compared to the unvaccinated.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:36:36 PM EDT
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IB4 the Pfizer troll who works in IT bitches about inconvenient truths?
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:37:39 PM EDT
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Been saying it since they came out.

"the COVID vaccines cause more COVID cases per million (+38% in US) and more deaths per million associated with COVID (+31% in US).

The abstract says:

The statistically significant and overwhelmingly positive causal impact after vaccine deployment on the dependent variables total deaths and total cases per million should be highly worrisome for policy makers. They indicate a marked increase in both COVID-19 related cases and death due directly to a vaccine deployment that was originally sold to the public as the “key to gain back our freedoms.”"

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There was a study done a couple of months ago showing that looking at 68 countries, there was no correlation between shot uptake percentage and case counts. Their curve fit actually showed a slight increase in case rates vs shot percentage but the data was so scattered, it really couldn't get a curve fit worth a hoot so they indicated there wasn't a correlation. That in itself is troubling since the shots are not without harm by themselves. If they have no impact on case rates, then there is all harm and no benefit.

I'll have to read this study and see how it's different than the previous one.

ETA: The paper referenced in the OP's article link is interesting. It uses a statistical tool that claims to try to discern "causality" from a complex Bayesian model analysis tool. It's not an actual "causality" analysis, only a complex statistical analysis method that shows a very high degree of likelihood that causality exists. It's a much more complex analysis than the one I mentioned above (which is one of the references used in the new study). The problems with data on the input side remain the same between the two papers, ie, some countries are better than others at reporting/recordkeeping. Still, if the analysis they've done holds up to scrutiny (ie people are able to replicate the results), then there's a pretty good case for saying the harmful experimental gene therapy shots have been actually bad for the countries that have implemented them.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:40:25 PM EDT
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Americans have more co-morbidity than other countries. The fattest poor people in earth.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:51:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:56:34 PM EDT
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In before m248 posts his laughing emoji and then mentions kirsch as a fraud.
Link Posted: 1/9/2022 11:57:54 PM EDT
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If only they fasted more..
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 12:07:47 AM EDT
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I think he called in sick to shillz_r_us.

Have to wait til the other guy is done driving uber.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 12:20:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 1:41:05 AM EDT
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Imagine simping for the guy who pushed AZT on people.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 2:06:10 AM EDT
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Probably have to wait until 9am when he is back on the clock.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 2:14:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 2:34:29 AM EDT
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Agreed
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 2:41:49 AM EDT
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Steve Kirsch has a "study" claiming that since the number of cases grew after Jan 2021 and therefore the vaccine caused it?







Hey Steve: Correlation isn't causation!
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:16:01 AM EDT
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Digging in a little deeper I have a feeling maybe Kirsch got badly trolled here. Here's info on the author of this "study", which isn't published anywhere and doesn't look like it ever will be:

https://apps.ualberta.ca/directory/person/kbeattie

Kyle Beattie is a political science major at a Canadian University. He lists his skills and expertise as:

Skills and Expertise
English Language
Language
Language Acquisition
Language Teaching
Foreign Language Learning
Applied Linguistics
Teaching English as a Foreign Language
Language Learning
Second Language Acquisition
Translation


https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kyle-Beattie

I think maybe this guy is trolling Steve to see if he's dumb enough to believe it and it looks like Steve took the bait and swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Steve Kirsch

Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:34:18 AM EDT
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It was always about population control... if the virus don't kill you the cure will.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:34:37 AM EDT
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Is this the same Kyle Beattie:

https://twitter.com/grenademitts16/status/1396524488955596800?t=FKLnv2nvEqlXaHOyhJAQIg&s=19

Even hashtagged it #VaxNation and #TeamPfizer

Pretty masterful troll if so.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:40:52 AM EDT
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Vaccines CAUSE Covid

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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:54:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/10/2022 7:41:24 AM EDT
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Imagine simping for the guy who pushed AZT on people.
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That was not the way it was intended.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 8:08:53 AM EDT
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In reviewing the circumstances and precautions taken which led to the Antarctica science team coming down with the Coof in total isolation, the only valid determination is that they carried it with them. So either there was multiple false negatives for at least one individual (or more), or the vaccine itself caused the Coof. That former is not impossible, but due to the frequency and so-called quality of the tests, highly, highly unlikely.

Kirsch may have not been trolled. The study is in preprint - presented for publication, and is available here: ResearchGate

ETA: corrected "false negatives"
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 8:40:45 AM EDT
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Only people I know who have gotten covid were jabbed...
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 8:48:00 AM EDT
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----------->--------------->---------------> His point
           You
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:11:53 AM EDT
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I'm really not surprised by the first Graph. Butter is better and makes for a happier marriage.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:23:22 AM EDT
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It is not possible to get COVID-19 from a COVID-19 vaccination, because none of the COVID-19 vaccines contain the live virus that causes COVID-19.

It is safe to put your minds at ease about this matter.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 9:34:03 AM EDT
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Your slight of hand does not go unnoticed. The vaccines instruct one's body to manufacture the very spike proteins which are the pathological business end of the virus, and of which the markers for identification by the PCR test are based.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 10:51:09 AM EDT
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Correctly identify the following components of this picture and win a prize:
The coronahokum
The vax
A bunch of dumbfucks
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 11:13:31 AM EDT
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The cure to COVID is turning off your TV.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 11:19:23 AM EDT
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If the disease called "COVID-19" is the immune systems reaction to the spike proteins on the virus, injecting yourself with a serum that causes your own cells to manufacture the spike protein which get into all your organs and bone marrow may result in more severe symptoms then a natural infection.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 11:49:58 AM EDT
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In reviewing the circumstances and precautions taken which led to the Antarctica science team coming down with the Coof in total isolation, the only valid determination is that they carried it with them. So either there was multiple false negatives for at least one individual (or more), or the vaccine itself caused the Coof. That former is not impossible, but due to the frequency and so-called quality of the tests, highly, highly unlikely.

Kirsch may have not been trolled. The study is in preprint - presented for publication, and is available here: ResearchGate

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Anyone can upload to ResearchGate. Looks like it was uploaded as a joke and then sent to Kirsch.

Y'all got trolled. This was a test to see who thinks critically. Kirsch utterly failed and took some of you with him
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:04:39 PM EDT
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Anyone can upload to ResearchGate. Looks like it was uploaded as a joke and then sent to Kirsch.

Y'all got trolled. This was a test to see who thinks critically. Kirsch utterly failed and took some of you with him
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In reviewing the circumstances and precautions taken which led to the Antarctica science team coming down with the Coof in total isolation, the only valid determination is that they carried it with them. So either there was multiple false negatives for at least one individual (or more), or the vaccine itself caused the Coof. That former is not impossible, but due to the frequency and so-called quality of the tests, highly, highly unlikely.

Kirsch may have not been trolled. The study is in preprint - presented for publication, and is available here: ResearchGate

ETA: corrected "false negatives"


Anyone can upload to ResearchGate. Looks like it was uploaded as a joke and then sent to Kirsch.

Y'all got trolled. This was a test to see who thinks critically. Kirsch utterly failed and took some of you with him


What a load of crap. The precautions taken were stupid because they relied on the harmful experimental gene therapy shots which were complete and utter failures. It's been known since early 2020 how long the incubation period can be for the bug. The precautions were stupid to begin with and the shots made the problem worse, not better.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:11:35 PM EDT
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i dont know what the shot is

i am very suspicious of anything the gov is forcing this hard

they either really care about your health and wellbeing or some sinister shit is going on

the history of any gov says its sinister
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:22:14 PM EDT
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My experience with having Lupus and my reaction to the seasonal flu vax is the basis for not getting the Coovies vax.  The autoimmune response I had to the flu vax was worse than fighting off Covid over the holidays.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:36:31 PM EDT
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No, it isn't.  Some of the SYMPTOMS are your immune system's response (especially fever), to the virus, and some complications from that reaction can be deadly.  But the infection itself causes damage to lung tissues, etc., otherwise AIDS would guarantee immunity from disease, which it most obviously does not.

The protein does NOT "get into all of your organs" and result in more damage than natural infection (which by definition would produce and disperse the spike protein to those very organs and in larger quantities in any case).  Whoever came up with that crock of shit should be tarred and feathered for taking advantage of the gullible and weak-minded.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:40:04 PM EDT
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If this is really true then why did Trump and Biden all get the vaccine?  Why do almost all Senators and Congress have the shot?  Why does pretty much everyone at Fox news have the shot?
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 3:40:48 PM EDT
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Just went for a checkup today.

The pa-c or whatever asked me:

"Do you ever get a flu shot? Any interest in a vaccine?"



It was a very lame sales pitch, and I'm happy about that

I just said: "no, I'm gonna pass on that for now"

No further discussion.

Going to rich people doctors certainly seems to help avoid this crap. They have no idea who I am or who I know/related to, so they never seem to bust balls about anything lol.

I hope it stays that way.
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No, it isn't.  Some of the SYMPTOMS are your immune system's response (especially fever), to the virus, and some complications from that reaction can be deadly.  But the infection itself causes damage to lung tissues, etc., otherwise AIDS would guarantee immunity from disease, which it most obviously does not.

The protein does NOT "get into all of your organs" and result in more damage than natural infection (which by definition would produce and disperse the spike protein to those very organs and in larger quantities in any case).  Whoever came up with that crock of shit should be tarred and feathered for taking advantage of the gullible and weak-minded.
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If the disease called "COVID-19" is the immune systems reaction to the spike proteins on the virus, injecting yourself with a serum that causes your own cells to manufacture the spike protein which get into all your organs and bone marrow may result in more severe symptoms then a natural infection.


No, it isn't.  Some of the SYMPTOMS are your immune system's response (especially fever), to the virus, and some complications from that reaction can be deadly.  But the infection itself causes damage to lung tissues, etc., otherwise AIDS would guarantee immunity from disease, which it most obviously does not.

The protein does NOT "get into all of your organs" and result in more damage than natural infection (which by definition would produce and disperse the spike protein to those very organs and in larger quantities in any case).  Whoever came up with that crock of shit should be tarred and feathered for taking advantage of the gullible and weak-minded.


The spike protein can and does get into all of your organs from the harmful experimental gene therapy shots. This was measured early on in the Japanese studies and has been cited as part of the reason for some of the more severe side effects like myocarditis. It isn't some "crock of shit", it's a known fact. Further, since the antibodies produced by the shots far outnumber antibodies produced by an actual infection, that would indicate that the number of spike proteins involved from the shots are higher than those from the actual infection.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:06:06 PM EDT
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ive been saying this for the jast 6 months , what really happens when your body gets injected with heavy load of live virus
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:09:39 PM EDT
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My concern all along is that the shots could cause long-term health problems.  That's the main reason I won't get one.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:36:57 PM EDT
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he is justice Sonia Sotomayors chief legal intern.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:47:28 PM EDT
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It could have been sugar water for all you know.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 4:55:15 PM EDT
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This is true, but not for the reason you think or by whom you believe...
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 5:00:05 PM EDT
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The spike protein can and does get into all of your organs from the harmful experimental gene therapy shots. This was measured early on in the Japanese studies and has been cited as part of the reason for some of the more severe side effects like myocarditis. It isn't some "crock of shit", it's a known fact. Further, since the antibodies produced by the shots far outnumber antibodies produced by an actual infection, that would indicate that the number of spike proteins involved from the shots are higher than those from the actual infection.
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And that happens to a much, much higher degree when you get the virus. It infects every part of your body.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 5:13:13 PM EDT
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Got the J&J booster 10 days ago, 4 days ago started having covid symptoms.
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And that happens to a much, much higher degree when you get the virus. It infects every part of your body.
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Which the dangerous shot doesn't stop from happening lol.
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Which the dangerous shot doesn't stop from happening lol.
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Yes it does, it's clearly preventing severe disease vs omicron, and vs Delta it prevented the majority of infections as well.
Link Posted: 1/10/2022 5:25:59 PM EDT
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Yes it does, it's clearly preventing severe disease vs omicron, and vs Delta it prevented the majority of infections as well.
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Kudos on having the fortitude to continue posting in this thread after it turned out the study in post 1 was an epic troll that Kirsch fell for.
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