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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:06:50 AM EDT
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Here is the result of the green push in the chemical business. I've posted this here before.
You get your chemicals from a green source like palm oil and as the demand expands you cut down massive chunks of rain forest to meet that demand instead of using the cheaper method of using petrochemicals. Is that really "green"? I don't think so, but I play the game too I suppose since I make the "green stuff" too |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:11:27 AM EDT
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Why don’t they just let the orangutans emigrate to London or MSP? Give them a flat and a welfare card. Win/win for everybody. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:16:58 AM EDT
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Sir David Attenborough's life style isn't going to change though... You can bet he lives in splendor. Hey David, rehome the ‘tang at your place. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:24:52 AM EDT
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I actually learned something watching Will Smiths documentary, I was surprised that it wasn't all doom and gloom. Actually said that the rain forest doesn't contribute air to surrounding areas. There's so much life it all gets used. We get most of our oxygen from the ocean blooms of phytoplankton. 
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:25:46 AM EDT
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Give him an AK
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:28:47 AM EDT
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It's an excavator, not a bulldozer 
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:32:23 AM EDT
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This Wish the ‘tang is would have ripped their spines out Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yep because heavy deforestation is the only way to grow GDP  Wish the ‘tang is would have ripped their spines out |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:34:00 AM EDT
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Sounds sad. I'll refrain from viewing. Nothing is free in this world, unfortunately.
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:37:36 AM EDT
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How dare people in the third world plant crops! They are supposed to live in abject poverty and enjoy it for the sake of the planet. Mike |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:41:42 AM EDT
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Population control through mandated abortions
Set up a strong world body to implement and enforce environmental/worker protections World governance of individual and corporate taxes Remove manmade boarders and populations deemed environmentally and ethnically harmful Transfer populations where work is needed One person with absolute enforcement powers will be selected by a Central Committee (Sound about right?) |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:44:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:45:21 AM EDT
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This is a tough situation all around.
Imagine the reaction if the world teamed up against Iowa/Nebraska and demanded they stop farming. They must return all that farmland to natural prairie for the sake of some critically endangered animal. What do you do? I’m not solid on one side of this debate like other people are. How do you ‘get both’? |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:46:41 AM EDT
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Just sad
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:50:13 AM EDT
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David Attenborough is a faggot that uses monkeys to justify making the british pay ten bucks a gallon for gas and pay half their income to the state. If he wants to save the world from us consumers maybe he should tell the inbreds in his social strata to stop brining third worlders to the first world where they will consume ten thousand times the resources they would have if they had stayed where they were. Fucking hypocrite bitch... oh, and fuck that monkey. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:00:38 AM EDT
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Ahh, the grim meat hook or reality in plain view for everyone. It's hard to be a wildlife conservationist because you have to look at the world as it is, not as you wish it to be. People need to make a living. The trick is to do it without raping every last square foot of the planet in the process. Yeah, easier said than done.
I was sitting around with a good friend the other night and he was carrying on about some broke dick country in Africa that was going to exterminate all their elephants because they are a nuisance. I responded with "It's a pity they can't figure out how to make those elephants an engine for local economies. You know? By making it so rich white guys will spend unspeakable amounts of money seeking a chance to visit and engage in a tightly controlled hunt. I'll bet they could raise enough to pay for game protectors. And the elephants would be a treasured resource instead of the big fucking monster that just trampled your sweet corn." His only response was "Fuck you." |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:06:48 AM EDT
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Plantations for palm oil are owned by foreign interests. Nestle chief among them. Think rubber plantations in Viet Nam Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How dare people in the third world plant crops! They are supposed to live in abject poverty and enjoy it for the sake of the planet. Mike |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:09:28 AM EDT
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It’s an excavator, not a bulldozer |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:17:07 AM EDT
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This is a tough situation all around. Imagine the reaction if the world teamed up against Iowa/Nebraska and demanded they stop farming. They must return all that farmland to natural prairie for the sake of some critically endangered animal. What do you do? I’m not solid on one side of this debate like other people are. How do you ‘get both’? Industrial scale monocultures have significant downsides, yes we've learned to sustain enormous populations at very low economic cost but nothing is free and we're depleting legacy resource stocks in soils, aquifers and ecosystems. We've got a fairly big problem closer to home with citrus production. There are more sustainable ways of doing things but they have higher economic costs nobody wants to pay. Norman Borlaug may have just kicked the can down the road and created a much bigger problem, we don't know yet. It's not just about the local threatened species losing their niches, we're wielding so much power now we have responsibilities our ancestors didn't. I don't think there are many palatable solutions at high population densities, our freedom to swing our arms is directly related to the number of noses in the room. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:27:12 AM EDT
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Just leave these guys alone... https://i.imgflip.com/1tn2xe.jpg Looking at their faces, it's hard not to see the connection to humans. Looking at his body is like looking in a mirror ETA: Apologies thought this was the Adele thread |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:28:49 AM EDT
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Ahh, the grim meat hook or reality in plain view for everyone. It's hard to be a wildlife conservationist because you have to look at the world as it is, not as you wish it to be. People need to make a living. The trick is to do it without raping every last square foot of the planet in the process. Yeah, easier said than done. I was sitting around with a good friend the other night and he was carrying on about some broke dick country in Africa that was going to exterminate all their elephants because they are a nuisance. I responded with "It's a pity they can't figure out how to make those elephants an engine for local economies. You know? By making it so rich white guys will spend unspeakable amounts of money seeking a chance to visit and engage in a tightly controlled hunt. I'll bet they could raise enough to pay for game protectors. And the elephants would be a treasured resource instead of the big fucking monster that just trampled your sweet corn." His only response was "Fuck you." |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:53:33 AM EDT
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How dare these impoverished 3rd worlders try and utilise their natural resources to improve their families lifestyle....
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:59:29 AM EDT
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 The Coon Huntin'' Monkey (Live (1975 Picayune)) |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:59:36 AM EDT
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It’s a |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 10:59:46 AM EDT
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How dare these impoverished 3rd worlders try and utilise their natural resources to improve their families lifestyle.... So yes, we do need to tell them how to do things since the first world has been there before them. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 11:38:51 AM EDT
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This is a tough situation all around. Imagine the reaction if the world teamed up against Iowa/Nebraska and demanded they stop farming. They must return all that farmland to natural prairie for the sake of some critically endangered animal. What do you do? I’m not solid on one side of this debate like other people are. How do you ‘get both’? |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 11:51:33 AM EDT
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Just leave these guys alone... https://i.imgflip.com/1tn2xe.jpg Looking at their faces, it's hard not to see the connection to humans. Looking at his body is like looking in a mirror 
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Posted: 4/23/2019 11:54:40 AM EDT
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There is a saying, "If you give a screwdriver to a gorilla he will throw it away, if you give one to a chimpamzee he will break it, and if you give one to an orang-utan he will use it to dismantle his cage and run away".
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Posted: 4/23/2019 11:56:02 AM EDT
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Oh damn, I must have missed the memo.
Are the rain forests in danger again like they were back in the '90s? 
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Posted: 4/23/2019 12:07:18 PM EDT
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 Ape With AK-47 |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 12:16:57 PM EDT
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Sad to watch, but who is the rest of the world to stick their nose in what another nation does.
I just want to know what was with the blow guns. Where they shooting tranquilizer darts at it to move it or where they trying to kill it or just harass it into moving |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 12:24:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:53:08 PM EDT
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The older I get, the less I care about palm oil, and the more I value the natural world. There is a point where more progress and less wilderness is a very, very bad thing. CMOS |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote Historyi wonder if this was staged and blanks were used? Still, always a funny video. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:56:14 PM EDT
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Just wait until the Orangutan gets behind the wheel of that machine
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That begs the question: Who gets to decide what people "make progress" vs those that do not? Serious question. CMOS |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 1:57:15 PM EDT
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Sad. I try not to think about all of the animals impacted by the shit I buy.
Should've evolved I guess, better luck next millennium |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:02:17 PM EDT
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Oh look boys and girls... propaganda. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:05:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing forty years of gardening (and hunting/fishing/camping/hiking/so on) has taught me is that all life is connected and it's mostly through the soil. Industrial scale monocultures have significant downsides, yes we've learned to sustain enormous populations at very low economic cost but nothing is free and we're depleting legacy resource stocks in soils, aquifers and ecosystems. We've got a fairly big problem closer to home with citrus production. There are more sustainable ways of doing things but they have higher economic costs nobody wants to pay. Norman Borlaug may have just kicked the can down the road and created a much bigger problem, we don't know yet. It's not just about the local threatened species losing their niches, we're wielding so much power now we have responsibilities our ancestors didn't. I don't think there are many palatable solutions at high population densities, our freedom to swing our arms is directly related to the number of noses in the room. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering how badly they've fucked up their country, probably somebody with more sense? |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:13:34 PM EDT
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Yep because heavy deforestation is the only way to grow GDP Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How dare people in the third world plant crops! They are supposed to live in abject poverty and enjoy it for the sake of the planet. Mike |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:14:08 PM EDT
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Best YouTube comment on the video: "Rare footage of Jeremy Clarkson fighting an excavator."
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:16:58 PM EDT
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Worked for us |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:19:11 PM EDT
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Every year the earth's population increases by 80 million, almost all of it in the third world.
Environmentalists won't discuss THAT. All they want to talk about is destroying Western civilization. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:20:22 PM EDT
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That poor orangutan. hopelessly outmatched by the excavator.
He should have just got an injunction from the 9th circuit. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:21:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Until Teddy Roosevelt made us realize that one of greatest national treasures is our land itself in it's natural state. Forward for Progress. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:22:41 PM EDT
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That's Freedom. A strong man confiscating your land to make you value things right. Forward for Progress. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Until Teddy Roosevelt made us realize that one of greatest national treasures is our land itself in it's natural state. Forward for Progress. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:22:46 PM EDT
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And yet, we don't have packs of wolves, polar bears, and mountain lions wandering around Manhattan. Nobody seems to care.
REAL EASY to be an environmentalist after you have everything the way you want it where you are at. |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's Freedom. A strong man confiscating your land to make you value things right. Forward for Progress. Forward for Progress and all 
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:23:40 PM EDT
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Right turn Clyde.
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Posted: 4/23/2019 2:24:39 PM EDT
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This is the way it works with leftists. You get people to give up quality of life over "feels". That continues until it ends up you being the orangutan and the bulldozer is the government...figuratively of course.
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