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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:43:26 PM EDT
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They probably figured out that those same 90% sampling also vote for, or against, school board members.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:46:43 PM EDT
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Good. The Confederate hate was by liberals and that Indian woman from South Carolina.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:49:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Will they put the statue back in Charlottesville?
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:59:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Just let the People decide
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:08:16 PM EDT
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Slavery side names. Gross.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:27:21 AM EDT
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Here's hoping they do. The "un-personing" 1984 stuff is utter poison.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:31:55 AM EDT
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Bunch of DC city folk moved out 66 to Shenandoah and ran for county offices and positions. The locals have slowly voted them back out and are trying to fix what was done. Wife lived in the county for almost 10 years before we were married. Mexicans and Rednecks makeup most of Shenandoah County
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Posted: 5/10/2024 8:59:28 AM EDT
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While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice.
As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:01:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Good news.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:06:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. The reason has probably changed with the generations. Now that the South is becoming an affluent manufacturing hub, while simultaneously turning into bland general America, it’s probably people hanging on to what made them distinctive. Younger East Germans who never had to live under communism are the same way. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:07:07 AM EDT
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The woke movement fad artist have hit their high tide.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:09:40 AM EDT
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Guess they saw removing a few names didn't "fix everything"
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:10:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. 
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:11:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bunch of DC city folk moved out 66 to Shenandoah and ran for county offices and positions. The locals have slowly voted them back out and are trying to fix what was done. Wife lived in the county for almost 10 years before we were married. Mexicans and Rednecks makeup most of Shenandoah County Sir, its hillbilly, thank you. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:16:25 AM EDT
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Here in Fairfax county they spend $500,000 to change a school name and then float a school bond referendum at the next election because they need more funds.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:20:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. Because we honor those who die in our wars. Americans who died in our wars. Confederate dead are American dead whether they were on the right or wrong side of the issue. These were American families and brothers against each other and they are interred in American cemeteries. The root word here is "American". They should not be discarded. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:24:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:25:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:26:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because we honor those who die in our wars. Americans who died in our wars. Confederate dead are American dead whether they were on the right or wrong side of the issue. These were American families and brothers against each other and they are interred in American cemeteries. The root word here is "American". They should not be discarded. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. Because we honor those who die in our wars. Americans who died in our wars. Confederate dead are American dead whether they were on the right or wrong side of the issue. These were American families and brothers against each other and they are interred in American cemeteries. The root word here is "American". They should not be discarded. Well said. 
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:39:55 AM EDT
[#20]
Good.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:49:19 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just let the People decide  ]
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:49:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. You didn’t have to say anything else. That statement speaks volumes. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:53:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just let the People decide https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/571e21c6160000e90031c921.jpeg?cache=904Ubjb7D0&ops=scalefit_500_noupscale&format=webp It would be be kick ass to go to Bruce Lee Elementary as a kid. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:59:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Because we honor those who die in our wars. Americans who died in our wars. Confederate dead are American dead whether they were on the right or wrong side of the issue. These were American families and brothers against each other and they are interred in American cemeteries. The root word here is "American". They should not be discarded. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:59:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. Whenever anyone uses this argument now, I just tell them I agree whole heartedly, and that the American Indians lost too. That usually shuts them up. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:06:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:12:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Well said sir.. Well said.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:16:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Here's to hoping we can take back the Commonwealth. Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:17:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's to hoping we can take back the Commonwealth. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/toast_gif-994.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Here's to hoping we can take back the Commonwealth. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/toast_gif-994.gif It's a function of getting out the vote. Simple in concept but historically near impossible to achieve. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:21:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Sure that all makes sense. But It tends to make less sense when you look into it. example: "we have pride in our choices during the civil war as Virginians..........well except the black people slaves thing" idk to me its kind of cherry picking. I can respect honoring fallen soldiers regardless of what side they are on though just maybe not the ideals being fought for. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:23:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure that all makes sense. But It tends to make less sense when you look into it. example: "we have pride in our choices during the civil war as Virginians..........well except the black people slaves thing" idk to me its kind of cherry picking. I can respect honoring fallen soldiers regardless of what side they are on though just maybe not the ideals being fought for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Sure that all makes sense. But It tends to make less sense when you look into it. example: "we have pride in our choices during the civil war as Virginians..........well except the black people slaves thing" idk to me its kind of cherry picking. I can respect honoring fallen soldiers regardless of what side they are on though just maybe not the ideals being fought for. Not cherry picking at all. Mosby captured a Union general by waking him up with back slaps and telling him to "get up fatty". This enraged Grant, but it makes me smile. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:25:27 AM EDT
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https://www.battlefields.org/learn/biographies/john-singleton-mosby
Mosby's most famous raid occurred in March of 1863, inside Union lines at Fairfax County Courthouse, when he captured Brigadier General Edwin H. Stoughton. Mosby found Stoughton asleep in bed. Awakening the General with a slap to the rear, Mosby asked "Do you know Mosby, General?" The General replied "Yes! Have you got the rascal?" "No," said Mosby. "He's got you!" |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:26:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:27:07 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess they saw removing a few names didn't "fix everything" This is one of those areas where all I see are butthurt adults bickering over things that have little to nothing to do with their kids' education. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:27:31 AM EDT
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The only people that should get a say are the tax payers and parents in that district. Fuck left coast liberals.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:32:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Restoring the names isn't going to fix anything either. This is one of those areas where all I see are butthurt adults bickering over things that have little to nothing to do with their kids' education. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Guess they saw removing a few names didn't "fix everything" This is one of those areas where all I see are butthurt adults bickering over things that have little to nothing to do with their kids' education. Teaching actual history is the foundation of a child's education. Having that corrupted for political gain is not acceptable. The wrong needs corrected in all ways. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:37:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Teaching actual history is the foundation of a child's education. Having that corrupted for political gain is not acceptable. The wrong needs corrected in all ways. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Guess they saw removing a few names didn't "fix everything" This is one of those areas where all I see are butthurt adults bickering over things that have little to nothing to do with their kids' education. Teaching actual history is the foundation of a child's education. Having that corrupted for political gain is not acceptable. The wrong needs corrected in all ways. My kid's middle school was named after Mirabeau Lamar. That has fuck all to do with teaching Texas history. Start prohibiting what can be taught and we have a problem. Personally, though, I have no problem with the name of the school being neutral and/or generic and not elevating the name of one man. Forget about that shit and leave the history debates to the classroom. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:39:49 AM EDT
[#38]
Rally ‘round the Virginians.
Yes I’m a proud son of Virginia. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:42:09 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure that all makes sense. But It tends to make less sense when you look into it. example: "we have pride in our choices during the civil war as Virginians..........well except the black people slaves thing" idk to me its kind of cherry picking. I can respect honoring fallen soldiers regardless of what side they are on though just maybe not the ideals being fought for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. Sure that all makes sense. But It tends to make less sense when you look into it. example: "we have pride in our choices during the civil war as Virginians..........well except the black people slaves thing" idk to me its kind of cherry picking. I can respect honoring fallen soldiers regardless of what side they are on though just maybe not the ideals being fought for. The ideals were that the central government had no constitutional authority to overstep its limited powers. Northerners were equally as racist, most of them didn't want to be surrounded by, much less look at a black person. Hence why there was such a push to move the black population to Africa or the Caribbean. The north did not fight to end slavery. And there is no law against secession, and no state would have ratified the Constitution in the late 18th century had any of them believed otherwise. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:45:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The name of a school has nothing to do with teaching history. My kid's middle school was named after Mirabeau Lamar. That has fuck all to do with teaching Texas history. Start prohibiting what can be taught and we have a problem. Personally, though, I have no problem with the name of the school being neutral and/or generic and not elevating the name of one man. Forget about that shit and leave the history debates to the classroom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Guess they saw removing a few names didn't "fix everything" This is one of those areas where all I see are butthurt adults bickering over things that have little to nothing to do with their kids' education. Teaching actual history is the foundation of a child's education. Having that corrupted for political gain is not acceptable. The wrong needs corrected in all ways. My kid's middle school was named after Mirabeau Lamar. That has fuck all to do with teaching Texas history. Start prohibiting what can be taught and we have a problem. Personally, though, I have no problem with the name of the school being neutral and/or generic and not elevating the name of one man. Forget about that shit and leave the history debates to the classroom. Is that what you think - its just the name of a school? What else should we allow the left to corrupt, and then rationalize it as being not important so leave it be? What could have been done for students with the millions that were spent on artificially changing history? What lesson can be imparted to students when they can observe adults fighting back against Marxism? I think you have a static type of analysis going that misses quite a lot. Ultimately it is the decision of that community to proceed as they think best, not you or me. If I were in that community though, I would support the effort to right a wrong. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:57:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Restoring the names isn't going to fix anything either. This is one of those areas where all I see are butthurt adults bickering over things that have little to nothing to do with their kids' education. It has a lot to do with it when funds are allocated for pandering to issues from 100 years ago and changing names instead of paying teacher more and having smaller class sizes. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:58:14 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Slavery side names. Gross. Username appropriate. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:01:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1.) Virginia wanted to stay with the Union but joined after being told to kill South Carolinians. 2.) Lots of Confederate leaders trained at West Point, both sides knew each other personally. 3.) Reconstruction was designed to reunify the nation, Virginia has a lot of pride in our decision to enter the war to defend others. 4.) It is an important part of Virginian history, not necessarily national history. Which is why we care and you don't. This. the statues/names/etc aren't necessarily about loyalty or glorifying them. It's about history. It's about remembering what happened. There were leaders and people of prominence on both sides, to just wipe that away is to do a grave disservice to future generations. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:03:14 AM EDT
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Stop naming schools entirely. I'd rather more "truth in advertising".
Just call 'em Government Indoctrination Camp #12832304 |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:04:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:06:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. I'll never understand how some Yankees do not realize their Republic lost that war also. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:08:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll never understand how some Yankees do not realize their Republic lost that war also. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While I don't agree with erasing the statues/names for the sake of social justice. As a "Yankee" I never understood the loyalty to getting 2nd place in the civil war. I'll never understand how some Yankees do not realize their Republic lost that war also. They are propagandized in school and never think about the issue critically. Often falling into the "every Victor in war was the hero trap" Things like this confuse and anger the northerner: 
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:08:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because we honor those who die in our wars. Americans who died in our wars. Confederate dead are American dead whether they were on the right or wrong side of the issue. These were American families and brothers against each other and they are interred in American cemeteries. The root word here is "American". They should not be discarded. Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:09:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ideals were that the central government had no constitutional authority to overstep its limited powers. Northerners were equally as racist, most of them didn't want to be surrounded by, much less look at a black person. Hence why there was such a push to move the black population to Africa or the Caribbean. The north did not fight to end slavery. And there is no law against secession, and no state would have ratified the Constitution in the late 18th century had any of them believed otherwise. Lots to unpack there.... while its true the civil war was a fight the south wanted to win in support of "states rights" that "rights" was the right to have black people be slaves.....that is a hard side to support even IF I support smaller government and "no step on snek" Yes, some Northerners in fact were racist and wanted slavery, its important to note Lincoln's party (republican party) wanted immediate emancipation. absolutely not a open and shut "one side was the good guys and other the bad guys" situation but there's a reason why people waving the "stars and bars" at lobby day were quietly told to put it TF away. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:12:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has a lot to do with it when funds are allocated for pandering to issues from 100 years ago and changing names instead of paying teacher more and having smaller class sizes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Restoring the names isn't going to fix anything either. This is one of those areas where all I see are butthurt adults bickering over things that have little to nothing to do with their kids' education. It has a lot to do with it when funds are allocated for pandering to issues from 100 years ago and changing names instead of paying teacher more and having smaller class sizes. Sounds like you're saying that no one should pander to those who make an issue out of slavery, Jim Crow, etc., but people should pander to those who make an issue out of Southern generals who succeeded and went to war with the federal government. All of these things happened long ago. You have to realize that for some, including myself to an extent, restoring the names of schools to those of Confederates is nothing but pandering to a niche group and their Southern pride. |
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