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Posted: 6/6/2020 2:07:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:08:21 AM EDT
[#1]
Yeah the new grille is ridiculous. Don't know WTF they're thinking.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:08:38 AM EDT
[#2]
Yeah I've seen it.  It's odd to me too, and I've owned BMWs for over 25 years
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:08:54 AM EDT
[#3]
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Yeah the new grille is ridiculous. Don't know WTF they're thinking.
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Why is there tape on the front?
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:09:27 AM EDT
[#4]
I see an angry squinty eyed pig with a huge nose.....
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:12:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:14:14 AM EDT
[#6]
I like it. The kidneys are a throw back to the older BMWs with the vertical kidney grills.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:15:26 AM EDT
[#7]
Like the butt-faced alien in the bar scene of Star Wars ANH
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:17:05 AM EDT
[#8]
Based on a comment made this week by the lead BMW designer - they know its falling flat.  His statement was that they are trying to:

1.  Differentiate from a crowded Euro design market
2.  Bungled a partial denial that it was made to appeal to the Chinese market

I think its a bold feeler for a new brand direction, but they've had more pushback than they expected.  They assume that buyers don't approve of change initially owing to brand current-design loyalists, but eventually like the newer direction and see it as progressive.

I think they went too far and believe they are starting to wonder.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:17:12 AM EDT
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I like it. The kidneys are a throw back to the older BMWs with the vertical kidney grills.
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Yeah, but they should have rolled back into that shit a little more subtly.
They fucked this one up.

Who the fuck let the Lexus grille designer have a say in this shit?
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:18:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:20:50 AM EDT
[#11]
Did the front fell off
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:20:56 AM EDT
[#12]
For a little fun:


Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:21:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:27:44 AM EDT
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For a little fun:

https://i.vgy.me/7MjA4A.jpg
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I'm literally trying to keep in my laughter so I don't wake my wife. That is hilarious, and probably spot on.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:36:17 AM EDT
[#15]
The trick is - that BMW has repeatedly taken what was seen as edgy and risky design changes - and succeeded.  The (Chris) "Bangle Butt" trunk design that flowed to most cars.  People derided it at first.  The accepted it and then it was seen a normative.

Flame surfacing.  I think Bangle had a hand in that two.  Cheesed off a LOT of the faithful.  Hated it - especially after the successful E46.  People roasted BMW for it.  Then people accepted it.  There are more examples.  BMW is not design-deaf and I'm 1,000% certain they trialed the design past focus groups in major markets.  Probably a lot. If you stand still - you will lose new buyer market share.

Its tough when your buyers don't want you to leave your design DNA - that other competitors are less constrained by.  Porsche however does not make radical departures - other than SUVs.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:36:46 AM EDT
[#16]
Did BMW collaborate with the Chevy Silverado design team on that crap?
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:37:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:41:39 AM EDT
[#18]
BMW owners when new models come out: This is hideous. What happened to my favorite car.

BMW owners after they still buy it: This is the best BMW ever made.

BMW owners after 3 years of ownership: Well the engine blew up after 50k miles and every single electronic in the cabin failed twice, but it was such a great car. Better go look at the new one so I can get my money's worth again.

Repeat cycle.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:43:49 AM EDT
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I like it. The kidneys are a throw back to the older BMWs with the vertical kidney grills.
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:44:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 2:44:58 AM EDT
[#21]
that cannot be real..
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 3:03:34 AM EDT
[#22]
Wish I never sold my e30 manual
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 3:06:36 AM EDT
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BMW owners when new models come out: This is hideous. What happened to my favorite car.

BMW owners after they still buy it: This is the best BMW ever made.

BMW owners after 3 years of ownership: Well the engine blew up after 50k miles and every single electronic in the cabin failed twice, but it was such a great car. Better go look at the new one so I can get my money's worth again.

Repeat cycle.
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LMFAO!!!! FTW!!!

Bruh, it’s the driving experience!!!!!
It’s a BMW thing, you wouldn’t understand.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 3:07:51 AM EDT
[#24]
The Lexus "Predator" grill would actually look good compared to that.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 3:30:02 AM EDT
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The Lexus "Predator" grill would actually look good compared to that.
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:10:09 AM EDT
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I like it. The kidneys are a throw back to the older BMWs with the vertical kidney grills.
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How old we talking?  

Like this?  Because if so, then no.  
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:15:39 AM EDT
[#27]
I'm going to hold out my final judgement for when I see one in person, but it's not looking good. I'm sure it'll be a blast to drive, but I think the designers went overboard with trying to be bold.


The pic in the OP brightened.
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:20:12 AM EDT
[#28]
Dont think it looks horrible,  

but the question I have, is are they still making engines that over heat, burn oil, kill gaskets and turbo?

I always like seeing 100k vehicles coming of lease being sold for around 20 grand, almost as must as financed 100k vehicles coming to market for sub 10k.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:23:53 AM EDT
[#29]
I have never owned a BMW, but I can appreciate the engine, suspension and design of the car..the X series SUV look really cool and all the M series cars are pretty badass.

But that front end, if not Photochopped, looks fucking stupid. Eclipsing the last horrible design idea from BMW Motorrad, the S1000rr headlights.

Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:27:35 AM EDT
[#30]
I'll be in the market again later this year, was intending to go for the '21 M3. But then the rumint on the new M3/4 and 4 series grilles started. I was hoping it wouldn't be so bad once revealed, but it's fucking horrible.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:29:58 AM EDT
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I'll be in the market again later this year, was intending to go for the '21 M3. But then the rumint on the new M3/4 and 4 series grilles started. I was hoping it wouldn't be so bad once revealed, but it's fucking horrible.
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The M3 grille might be different, we'll have to wait and see.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:30:48 AM EDT
[#32]
I think it looks bad ass, like rocket ship thrusters.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:32:05 AM EDT
[#33]
The kids who grew up playing angry birds are now old enough to design cars.



Feel old yet?
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:32:39 AM EDT
[#34]
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I have never owned a BMW, but I can appreciate the engine, suspension and design of the car..the X series SUV look really cool and all the M series cars are pretty badass.

But that front end, if not Photochopped, looks fucking stupid. Eclipsing the last horrible design idea from BMW Motorrad, the S1000rr headlights.

http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0100/6850/hotbodies_racing_headlight_cover_bmws1000_rr20102014_smoke.jpg
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I also think that looks awesome. I have bad taste maybe.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:40:56 AM EDT
[#35]
I would not own a car without a dip stick to confirm oil level and see how dark the oil is, unless it was a pure electric vehicle.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 6:58:28 AM EDT
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I would not own a car without a dip stick to confirm oil level and see how dark the oil is, unless it was a pure electric vehicle.
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Maybe you should.go.electric if you think the oil color has anything to do with its ability to clean and lubricate.

The sensors are fine..
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 7:03:00 AM EDT
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How old we talking?  

Like this?  Because if so, then no.  
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/473532/B4EAC52E-F838-4303-B889-DF133E440763_jpe-1449091.JPG
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Older:

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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 7:42:08 AM EDT
[#38]
I dont  hate it. Let her breath!!
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 7:50:30 AM EDT
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The M3 grille might be different, we'll have to wait and see.
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I hope, but not holding my breath.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 7:52:21 AM EDT
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I'm going to hold out my final judgement for when I see one in person, but it's not looking good. I'm sure it'll be a blast to drive, but I think the designers went overboard with trying to be bold.


The pic in the OP brightened.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/334296/G80_M3_G82_M4_Full_Leak_1_jpg-1449093.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/334296/G82_M4_bumper_png-1449094.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/334296/BMW_G80_M3_G82_M4_hood_jpg-1449095.JPG
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Did they buy up all the old Dodge Charger hoods?
That car is hideous, whomever approved that design should be fired, as well as all the people below him for taking a joke that far.
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 7:52:24 AM EDT
[#41]
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 7:55:24 AM EDT
[#42]
It looks like a bmw and a mustang had a baby that was subsequently kidnapped by a pair of Lexus’s and brainwashed into having grill reassignment surgery
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 7:59:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 8:16:11 AM EDT
[#44]
*laughs in Audi RS3*
Link Posted: 6/6/2020 8:22:22 AM EDT
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Maybe you should.go.electric if you think the oil color has anything to do with its ability to clean and lubricate.

The sensors are fine..
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I would not own a car without a dip stick to confirm oil level and see how dark the oil is, unless it was a pure electric vehicle.


Maybe you should.go.electric if you think the oil color has anything to do with its ability to clean and lubricate.

The sensors are fine..
No it's a shit design to not have an engine oil dipstick, and relying on BMW sensors...


Link Posted: 6/6/2020 8:31:55 AM EDT
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The Lexus "Predator" grill would actually look good compared to that.
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 8:43:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 8:51:42 AM EDT
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I have never owned a BMW, but I can appreciate the engine, suspension and design of the car..the X series SUV look really cool and all the M series cars are pretty badass.

But that front end, if not Photochopped, looks fucking stupid. Eclipsing the last horrible design idea from BMW Motorrad, the S1000rr headlights.

http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0100/6850/hotbodies_racing_headlight_cover_bmws1000_rr20102014_smoke.jpg
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 I understand what they were trying to do as an idea but the execution just didn’t work. They were trying to mimic the shapes of an endurance racer single headlight and offset number plate.
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Link Posted: 6/6/2020 8:55:12 AM EDT
[#49]
You know it looks ok to me but it looks odd for a BMW

Honestly it reminds me of 60s and 70s Pontiacs

Link Posted: 6/6/2020 9:05:41 AM EDT
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