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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:10:39 PM EST
[#1]
Any bonuses for coming back from retirement?
 . Edit: how could it possibly be 100?? Not many applicants? Used to be there'd be hundreds each time....
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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:13:16 PM EST
[#2]
The average civilian board is only 12-18. Last board was 16/16.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:24:02 PM EST
[#3]
I got out in '95 and I'm a little shy of 50. I wanna fly an Apache and blow shit up. Can I get vet preference?
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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:30:21 PM EST
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I would drop a packet but I am a 14 year NCO and 40 years old.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:34:40 PM EST
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I would drop a packet but I am a 14 year NCO and 40 years old. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:53:23 PM EST
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Any bonuses for coming back from retirement? . Edit: how could it possibly be 100?? Not many applicants? Used to be there'd be hundreds each time....Crazy is the bind the Army put itself in to begin with. Jobs on the outside are rolling like crazy and uncle starting making grade and airframe corrections with a fucking axe instead of a scalpel. Typical. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:56:22 PM EST
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There is a recall to active duty for 160th CH47 slots. Pretty soon for everything I bet.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 5:57:27 PM EST
[#8]
I'm too old.
I'd love to follow in my Dad's footsteps and be an Army aviator, but unfortunately that time is long past. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 6:06:28 PM EST
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That is simply incredible to me. Why aren't more people applying?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Are saying that everyone who made it through to the board, got selected? |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 6:21:00 PM EST
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That is simply incredible to me. Why aren't more people applying? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Are saying that everyone who made it through to the board, got selected? The Army has 2 sources of candidates for the Warrant Officer pilot corps. Currently enlisted and people applying as civilians (WOFT). WOFT rates are incredibly high right now. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 6:24:39 PM EST
[#11]
God I wish I could do that.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 6:45:10 PM EST
[#12]
Haven't looked into warrant officer at all, is WOFT something you can get guaranteed in a contract?
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Posted: 7/18/2017 6:48:00 PM EST
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Haven't looked into warrant officer at all, is WOFT something you can get guaranteed in a contract? Details on the requirements |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 7:04:59 PM EST
[#14]
What is the process for a high school graduate? An 18yo.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 7:06:43 PM EST
[#15]
Honestly?
Go to the nearest recruiter and say you are interested in the WOFT program. There will be a LOT of pushback. Dont fall for the "its better to enlist" thing. The link I posted above lists the requirements. You will need a good ASVAB score. A good SIFT score. Pass the flight physical. Pass an APFT. Pass a board. All doable. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 7:36:48 PM EST
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Yes, it is. The Warrant Officer Flight Training program has been around since Vietnam. Details on the requirements |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:29:49 PM EST
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I completed my WOFT application process during the fall of my senior year of high school. I was notified that I was selected in late February. I did my initial processing for delayed entry in March, graduated high school in June and left for basic training in August.
That was in 1986. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 5:08:05 AM EST
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What is the process for a high school graduate? An 18yo. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 6:45:34 AM EST
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Man up, walk into a recruiting office, and tell them what you want. Having more information before you begin is foundational to developing good SA. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:03:46 AM EST
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Before anymore purse swinging, I'll note that the member that asked the question about how the process starts for a 18 year old has an account date from 2003.
I doubt they're asking for themselves and the process for street to seat does start at the recruiter. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:05:38 AM EST
[#21]
Im putting together my packet currently.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:11:09 AM EST
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When I applied in 1980 for a CAS slot with the Iowa Army Guard, the state only got about six total pilots slots a year. It was very competitive even then. The active duty side was getting 600 applicants for every opening nationwide.
How times change. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:23:12 AM EST
[#23]
Tempting. 4,500+ hours rotor. Wife would kill me.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:37:17 AM EST
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I tried back in 79, but an X-ray showed my spine was shaped like an S, so they rejected me.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:39:39 AM EST
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Before anymore purse swinging, I'll note that the member that asked the question about how the process starts for a 18 year old has an account date from 2003. I doubt they're asking for themselves and the process for street to seat does start at the recruiter.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:47:01 AM EST
[#26]
What are the chances for someone that training sepped for scoliosis in '85 from the Corps?
Nick |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 12:48:55 AM EST
[#27]
If it's any indication I'm 6 mo out of flight school and a assault helicopter Co Commander. I'm an O-3 transfer from a different branch... One of my best friends (a freshly made CW2) made fun of me for it until he took command of his 64E Co right out of flight school.
The Army is hurting for pilots right now. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 7:52:55 AM EST
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Yes, it is. The Warrant Officer Flight Training program has been around since Vietnam. Details on the requirements |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 8:10:56 AM EST
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If it's any indication I'm 6 mo out of flight school and a assault helicopter Co Commander. I'm an O-3 transfer from a different branch... One of my best friends (a freshly made CW2) made fun of me for it until he took command of his 64E Co right out of flight school.
The Army is hurting for pilots right now. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 8:51:03 AM EST
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Are most of the Army pilots ETSing and transitioning over to Fixed wing Airline jobs, or are there enough Rotory wing jobs to create that kind of turnover? |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 10:15:05 AM EST
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Are most of the Army pilots ETSing and transitioning over to Fixed wing Airline jobs, or are there enough Rotary wing jobs to create that kind of turnover? Really the only pilots I know of that leave after their commitments are up are regular commissioned guys and dudes that were street to seat. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 3:00:42 PM EST
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Yes, it is. The Warrant Officer Flight Training program has been around since Vietnam. Details on the requirements Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haven't looked into warrant officer at all, is WOFT something you can get guaranteed in a contract? Details on the requirements |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 3:16:00 PM EST
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If you have a P2 for running, can you pass the flight physical? I can still run, and still take the three-event APFT, but it is "at own pace and distance after 2 miles".
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Posted: 7/22/2017 3:39:10 PM EST
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God I wish I could do that.
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Posted: 7/22/2017 4:02:41 PM EST
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If you have a P2 for running, can you pass the flight physical? I can still run, and still take the three-event APFT, but it is "at own pace and distance after 2 miles".
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Posted: 7/23/2017 5:20:19 PM EST
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Can you come in as a guardsman or reservist as a pilot, ie. directly off the street civilian to NG/Reserve?
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Posted: 7/23/2017 7:04:02 PM EST
[#37]
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Can you come in as a guardsman or reservist as a pilot, ie. directly off the street civilian to NG/Reserve? |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 8:52:32 PM EST
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Apply now. Latest selections for WOFT have been 100%. Yes, 100%. I have been in the military for 16+ years, 5 years as an enlisted guy and 11+ as a pilot. When something that is usually a selective process, is suddenly not so selective, it's usually for a reason... |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 8:55:56 PM EST
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I have been in the military for 16+ years, 5 years as an enlisted guy and 11+ as a pilot. When something that is usually a selective process, is suddenly not so selective, it's usually for a reason... The problem with the army is that no one knows we have a few thousand aircraft that need to be flown. But sure, the job has shit parts, just like flying for every single branch (except the coast guard) |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 8:56:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:That I dont know. If you are rated already, Im sure its a different process. I would try to talk to a NG or Reserve recruiter... |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 9:54:10 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryIf I had a "way back" machine...
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Posted: 7/24/2017 8:10:04 AM EST
[#42]
Darn if I was a little younger and not making the kind of money flying that I am now I'd jump on it.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 8:19:34 AM EST
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There is a recall to active duty for 160th CH47 slots. Pretty soon for everything I bet. The same kind of clue that the Air Force is getting from running out of fighter pilots. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 8:23:03 AM EST
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Apply now. Latest selections for WOFT have been 100%. Yes, 100%. Would they take a 47 year old with no flight or military background?
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Posted: 7/24/2017 11:59:10 AM EST
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That's a clue if the 160th is having trouble finding people who even want to fly. The same kind of clue that the Air Force is getting from running out of fighter pilots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is a recall to active duty for 160th CH47 slots. Pretty soon for everything I bet. The same kind of clue that the Air Force is getting from running out of fighter pilots. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 4:58:09 PM EST
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That's a clue if the 160th is having trouble finding people who even want to fly. The same kind of clue that the Air Force is getting from running out of fighter pilots. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 5:25:43 PM EST
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I served with a guy that's a Little bird pilot for the 160th now.
He was an Ariel Observer back in the day (I wish my recruiter would have told me about that MOS before I joined up). He's all growed up CWO now. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 10:27:48 AM EST
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I'm going to jump in and echo CFII's post. If you, or someone you know, wants to be an Army Aviation Warrant Officer, now is the time to start applying!
Aviation Branch is short something like 400-500 pilots. Fort Rucker is planning on increasing the training load for the next three years to play catch-up. Part of the problem is more commissioned and warrant officers are leaving the Army than they planned on, but also has to do with the fact that they gave a bunch of OH-58D drivers pink slips and said thank you for your service instead of giving them all AH-64E transitions and moving them to the new ARS formations. That being said, Uncle Sam wants YOU to come fly his helicopters! |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 10:55:51 AM EST
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You can get anything waved. Lol |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 11:32:22 AM EST
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I'm going to jump in and echo CFII's post. If you, or someone you know, wants to be an Army Aviation Warrant Officer, now is the time to start applying! Aviation Branch is short something like 400-500 pilots. Fort Rucker is planning on increasing the training load for the next three years to play catch-up. Part of the problem is more commissioned and warrant officers are leaving the Army than they planned on, but also has to do with the fact that they gave a bunch of OH-58D drivers pink slips and said thank you for your service instead of giving them all AH-64E transitions and moving them to the new ARS formations. That being said, Uncle Sam wants YOU to come fly his helicopters! They did the same thing on the maintenance side, as well. They ramped up the recruiting of the 15J MOS to facilitate the transfer of 15J to 15E (UAV Maintainer). Unfortunately, when they started offering 15E at MEPS, they were still heavily recruiting 15Js. For the last few years, promotions were essentially frozen for 15Js trying to make SGT and SSG. They offered a transfer to 15Y (Apache Armament) and 15R (Apache Maintenance), but for some reason they were REALLY picky. Out of 40 15Js in my section, I think one or two of them were selected. All of the rest either got orders to Ft. Bragg (last of the OH58s were there) and/or got a consolation prize and "thanks for playing Army". Now TRADOC is trying to push through an additional 1800 AIT students across all three airframes (on top of the normal student load) next fiscal year. |
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