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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think asking them to replace my barrel is overboard? Gun was less than a month old and had about 40 rounds through it... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can't un-ring a bell. When good barrels leave they don't come back. You think asking them to replace my barrel is overboard? Gun was less than a month old and had about 40 rounds through it... Not at all, someone messed up here and they owe you a new barrel. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:08:28 PM EDT
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I'm now so glad I didn't get around to ordering any of that ammo, I've seen it advertised on several sites and I almost pulled the trigger on some.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:09:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good catch! It's berdan contrary to the product description. I wonder if PSA got a counterfeit batch? I bet they have a line that makes 7.62x54R and are using the exact same primer for it. That the Poles do this shocks me when even the Russians use non-corrosive primers for the military production now. I bet Palmetto makes this right. If I were you, I would be mad. If I were Palmetto, I would be hopping mad at the manufacturer. They need to recall this ASAP or at least contact each customer and work out a deal with them, they at least need to be informed. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:10:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:11:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm now so glad I didn't get around to ordering any of that ammo, I've seen it advertised on several sites and I almost pulled the trigger on some. Yea I hope guys mostly stacked it deep and didn't run it through their SCAR-H which is currently sitting in their safe... |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:12:04 PM EDT
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My dad ruined a mini 14 barrel back In the early 2000's shooting some random plan generic marked russian steel case ammo through it and putting it back in the safe without cleaning it for a few months. If ammo is not packaged in a name brand company box, a couple hot tap water soaked patches through the bore before cleaning as usual. I always check my guns a few days after shooting it to be sure as well whether I clean them or not.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:14:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive?  |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:14:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think asking them to replace my barrel is overboard? Gun was less than a month old and had about 40 rounds through it... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can't un-ring a bell. When good barrels leave they don't come back. You think asking them to replace my barrel is overboard? Gun was less than a month old and had about 40 rounds through it... I dont think that's out of line at all...........whether they agree to do it or not I dont know, but it would be a good customer service move to do so |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think asking them to replace my barrel is overboard? Gun was less than a month old and had about 40 rounds through it... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can't un-ring a bell. When good barrels leave they don't come back. You think asking them to replace my barrel is overboard? Gun was less than a month old and had about 40 rounds through it... New barrel and instal is minimum what I'd ask for, maybe gas parts too. If you haven't checked them yet they may have gotten the same fate. You'll have to work it out with psa, but keep us posted. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:16:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sucks. Had a similar experience with Wolf "non-corrosive" 6.5 Grendel a few years back. Same here Supposedly non corrosive 7.62 wolf rusted the fuck out of my ptr-32. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:17:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:21:43 PM EDT
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The more I think about it I'm really glad I didn't take my factory HK91 to the range that day.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:24:23 PM EDT
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Just about everything needs to be cleaned that hot gas got to. That gun would have to be stripped down to get all the parts in the gas system. I've seen bolts with a firing pin so corroded if you let it slam on a live round it would fire and possibly empty the magazine. That's why nobody really wants corrosive ammunition, especially in a gun like that unless it's an old bolt gun or an AK. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:24:57 PM EDT
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Interesting, googling MESKO had me come up with some of their 9x18 advertised as corrosive.
https://battlehawkarmory.com/product-details?id=865528&avad=55097_a319fc369 |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:27:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting, googling MESKO had me come up with some of their 9x18 advertised as corrosive. https://battlehawkarmory.com/product-details?id=865528&avad=55097_a319fc369 Atlantic lists their 7.62x39 as non-corrosive. https://atlanticfirearms.com/ak47-brass-ammunition-762x39-mesko-poland |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:28:02 PM EDT
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I would want an entire new replacement gun.
That looks bad |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:28:14 PM EDT
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OP, below are the website terms and conditions.
Good news! It looks like they only apply to a company called Palmeto State Armory. 
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:28:56 PM EDT
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That sucks!
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Atlantic lists their 7.62x39 as non-corrosive. https://atlanticfirearms.com/ak47-brass-ammunition-762x39-mesko-poland As I noted earlier in the thread, it's also listed as boxer primed but this brass is berden primed. I wonder if they have different batches they use for different purposes and some got switched around and PSA got it unknowingly |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:29:44 PM EDT
[#20]
Well that sucks.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mostly non corrosive ammo. It's "mildly corrosive." |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:31:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:31:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I noted earlier in the thread, it's also listed as boxer primed but this brass is berden primed. I wonder if they have different batches they use for different purposes and some got switched around and PSA got it unknowingly Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Atlantic lists their 7.62x39 as non-corrosive. https://atlanticfirearms.com/ak47-brass-ammunition-762x39-mesko-poland As I noted earlier in the thread, it's also listed as boxer primed but this brass is berden primed. I wonder if they have different batches they use for different purposes and some got switched around and PSA got it unknowingly Hard to say, I imagine PSA will be looking into it. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:33:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. 2019 production military ammo from a Nato country. Listed as non-corrosive. I don't think I was being imprudent. I assume all you naysayers clean with windex after you shoot some Prvi? |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Use water... Windex isn't required. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Exactly. 2019 production military ammo from a Nato country. Listed as non-corrosive. I don't think I was being imprudent. I assume all you naysayers clean with windex after you shoot some Prvi? Windex is water, I don’t know why people even use it. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From their website ??? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/265139/Screenshot_20230701_233031_Brave_jpg-2870574.JPG This makes me think they use different batches of primers possibly based on contract and availability, it guess I got the shit kind |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:35:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From their website ??? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/265139/Screenshot_20230701_233031_Brave_jpg-2870574.JPG I'm sure someone that doesn't speak English as a first language worked real hard on making sure the chemical composition of their primers was translated and advertised correctly. That packaging was not intended for US commercial sale. That's a red flag. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:35:19 PM EDT
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How does the bolt head look?
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:36:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif 
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:38:45 PM EDT
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At least OP isn't the guy that flew to Poland and found that his ammo goldmine was all Chinese corrosive stuff. Trying to remember what his username was.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:40:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Windex is water, I don't know why people even use it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly. 2019 production military ammo from a Nato country. Listed as non-corrosive. I don't think I was being imprudent. I assume all you naysayers clean with windex after you shoot some Prvi? Windex is water, I don't know why people even use it. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:40:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Well, that's not good.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:41:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:41:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On an entirely related note......what is the best way to unfuck a barrel like this? Just clp and brass bush like hell? Soak with hoppe's overnight? I’d try some JB Bore Paste on patches (not brushes) to start with. There are much more aggressive options, but they have the potential to make things worse.  |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:41:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can SMELL actually the difference usually. You can actually smell the salt in the smoke if you have a good and trained sniffer. Yup. I've always equated it to a pesticide odor. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:43:24 PM EDT
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Man that sucks. Keep in mind it's not just the barrel usually you also have the gas system and stuff can still get in the action and trigger.
If a simple clean doesn't fix it up you likely have some real damage. I hope PSA can help you out. To me the ideal solution would be to send the gun to Atlantic or whatever Smith the company uses and have PSA cover the fix. Good luck. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:43:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably because the ammonia works as a copper solvent. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly. 2019 production military ammo from a Nato country. Listed as non-corrosive. I don't think I was being imprudent. I assume all you naysayers clean with windex after you shoot some Prvi? Windex is water, I don't know why people even use it. It doesn’t do anything for the salts does it? |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:45:36 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda fucked up. I used to shoot a decent amount of trash can guys with corrosive shit and didn't have them rust like that. As in AKs with chrome bores? That'd be why. A friend put a bunch of Yugo M67 through his WASR and didn't clean it. A month later there was a small amount of rust in the gas tube. That was all. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:46:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't do anything for the salts does it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly. 2019 production military ammo from a Nato country. Listed as non-corrosive. I don't think I was being imprudent. I assume all you naysayers clean with windex after you shoot some Prvi? Windex is water, I don't know why people even use it. It doesn't do anything for the salts does it? I dont know the answer. Just saying why people use windex. For corrosives it puzzles me. Maybe think good for one, good for the other? ETA: never used windex even once on a gun |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:46:35 PM EDT
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I shot some non-corrosive ammo that destroyed a PTR32 barrel and bolt
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:46:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, you got the “limited edition” ammo.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371851/IMG_3831_jpeg-2870590.JPG Lol, sure did, I guess at least I know this ammo will last forever and can go at the bottom of the SHTF stash |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:46:48 PM EDT
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Windex will rust the FUCK out of steel. Anything with ammonia is bad bad bad. I would suspect you cleaned the rifle with it prio or after based on the OP. Sorry man but his one is on you. I bet the rest of your stuff is propper fucked also.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:47:48 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont know the answer. Just saying why people use windex. For corrosives it puzzles me. Maybe think good for one, good for the other? Yea, I just do it cause some old fart told me to to that when I was like 19 and bought a mosin and haven't had a problem since |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:50:30 PM EDT
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You have any left?
You can always do the primer pop on a steel plate if there's any question whatsoever. That suck a big hairy one OP. I'm with you. I don't clean guns for fun because I don't shoot corrosive ammo. I dumped the last of my 7n6 some time ago because of laziness. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:50:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont know the answer. Just saying why people use windex. For corrosives it puzzles me. Maybe think good for one, good for the other? ETA: never used windex even once on a gun Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly. 2019 production military ammo from a Nato country. Listed as non-corrosive. I don't think I was being imprudent. I assume all you naysayers clean with windex after you shoot some Prvi? Windex is water, I don't know why people even use it. It doesn't do anything for the salts does it? I dont know the answer. Just saying why people use windex. For corrosives it puzzles me. Maybe think good for one, good for the other? ETA: never used windex even once on a gun For years I’ve seen posts on the internet saying that it “neutralizes” the salts, but I think that’s Fudd lore. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:51:33 PM EDT
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Ive shot corrosive out of Mosin's, SKS's and the like and neglected to clean after, none of them looked like that. Damn.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For years I've seen posts on the internet saying that it "neutralizes" the salts, but I think that's Fudd lore. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:54:23 PM EDT
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Yep. Totally not trusting someone calling a gun part a "nut barrel mouthpiece" to label corrosiveness correctly.
https://www.mesko.com.pl/en/product/762x39-blank |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:54:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For years I’ve seen posts on the internet saying that it “neutralizes” the salts, but I think that’s Fudd lore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly. 2019 production military ammo from a Nato country. Listed as non-corrosive. I don't think I was being imprudent. I assume all you naysayers clean with windex after you shoot some Prvi? Windex is water, I don't know why people even use it. It doesn't do anything for the salts does it? I dont know the answer. Just saying why people use windex. For corrosives it puzzles me. Maybe think good for one, good for the other? ETA: never used windex even once on a gun For years I’ve seen posts on the internet saying that it “neutralizes” the salts, but I think that’s Fudd lore. Ballistol and warm water are what you seek if you shoot corrosive ammo. Smells like you mixed menthol and kerosene together. Not exactly pleasant. |
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Posted: 7/1/2023 11:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d try some JB Bore Paste on patches (not brushes) to start with. There are much more aggressive options, but they have the potential to make things worse. I wouldn't do anything yet, wait to see what's what first. If you get told to pound sand, go to Harbor Freight, buy a few bottles of Evaporust and a container large enough to soak the barreled action in. Scrub the bore with it, rinse it all off, also buy some J-B Bore Compound and then use it on the Bore. Evaporust might remove the finish bluing or whatever finish in on the action/barrel. At this point, it really doesn't matter. That or send it back to Bula and see what they can do. |
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