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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:54:46 PM EDT
People started getting hurt and the CPSC stepped in to shut down the fun.  Was that a good idea / precedent?

The Honda Big Red was one of the best ATV’s ever made.  To this day I still want one.


Link Posted: 5/22/2020 8:55:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Man I remember those well. Had a lotta friends with faces like and quite a few broken bones. Good times indeed.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 8:57:06 PM EDT
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It's never right whenever the government is involved.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 8:57:26 PM EDT
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Why were they good?  

When I was a kid I was over a friend’s house and he had one, it rolled on him while he was showing it to me.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 8:59:02 PM EDT
[#4]
No it was not. But .gov should not have been worrying about paying hospital bills either. Let the dead bury the dead is my way of thinking.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 8:59:05 PM EDT
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Was is it right for the government to ban . . . . .
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No.

Link Posted: 5/22/2020 8:59:20 PM EDT
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Why were they good?  

When I was a kid I was over a friend’s house and he had one, it rolled on him while he was showing it to me.
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Incredibly maneuverable in deep woods situations, light, fun to use body weight to control.

Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:00:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:00:20 PM EDT
[#8]
No it was not right, with that being said I've owned 3 of em and they are dangerous af lol.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:01:37 PM EDT
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Yes, good ban because of the stunts that Mahoney used to pull while on his beach patrols.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:03:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Government is never the answer

But they would have stopped making them anyways, too much liability
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:04:26 PM EDT
[#11]
No
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:04:54 PM EDT
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Yes, good ban because of the stunts that Mahoney used to pull while on his beach patrols.
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A white Big Red?!?  A first for me
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:05:55 PM EDT
[#13]
probably
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:08:14 PM EDT
[#14]
Try running you calves over with one.

You will be thanking the .gov.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:11:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Fuck no it's not.  Next it will be motorcycles they will use the same reasoning they used for seatbelt laws. Then a hp and or performance limit of some sort.  Finally a weight limit, no one needs a large truck they just endanger everyone else on the road.  

In the end we will only be able to buy tiny boring cars that top out at 65mph I mean why build cars that can do a 100mph or more? Only criminals drive that fast!

Karen's over the next 2 decades...
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:11:55 PM EDT
[#16]
We still have one Like your photo and the thing is a death trap.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:13:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Dangerous as shit. I broke my hip riding that very same one.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:14:39 PM EDT
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Had one as a kid, didn't kill myself.
They were pretty good at going straight, turning was an adventure.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:17:02 PM EDT
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Three wheelers are dumb but banning things is dumber.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:17:10 PM EDT
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Keep your feet on the pegs and you’ll be fine.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:18:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Those things were dangerous as hell.

Fun, too.

Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:20:09 PM EDT
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I'm torn, on one hand fuck the government but on the other hand the people dying on them were doing awesome stuff so it kept the awesome people around.  

I wanted one so bad but my dad said no.  For my fifteenth birthday I begged dad for one and he said it was too dangerous.  He gave me a rifle instead.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:21:50 PM EDT
[#23]
We still have one but I take it easy on it.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:22:50 PM EDT
[#24]
Quads are so much more safer.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:23:49 PM EDT
[#25]
Damn Big Red nearly ended my life and a bunch of my cousin's lives as well. DEATH TRAP. Soooo fun though!
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:24:32 PM EDT
[#26]
No it wasn't. But trust me when I say those were death traps. I can't believe I survived those, had some scary run ins.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:24:32 PM EDT
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Geez!  Government did not ban them.  Government threatened.  Manufacturers complied.  Lots of personal injury lawsuits.  3 wheelers generally sucked anyway, certainly at speed.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:26:13 PM EDT
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I had an '82 ATC 250R

Sold it for nothing to a friend in the 90s.

That thing was fun.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:27:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Injured several times on them. Trips to the ER. Some permanent damage to my leg. I  bought 3 more since and had a blast on them. Sometimes having fun can be dangerous. Stupid that government banned them.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:27:58 PM EDT
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Fun, too.

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I thought that I was Dean Sundahl. Leaning all over that thing sideways and shit.

That thing hauled ass.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:28:38 PM EDT
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I had a friend who had a fast as hell Tri-Z 250. They would race them. Looking back I’m amazed he wasn’t killed.

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Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:28:49 PM EDT
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Incredibly maneuverable in deep woods situations, light, fun to use body weight to control.

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The last time we let somebody harvest in our woods, it was a local mill owner, he used a log arch towed behind a ATC185S Big Red. Only hauled one log at a time, hoisted the whole log instead of dragging it by one end, and you couldn't tell where he'd driven. Night and day difference between Big Red and a log skidder. Lazy skidder operator can turn a woods into post bombing Dresden.

And then there's the time ten years ago when somebody drove a skidder over my Dolmar 5100S. Still runs but the crankcase is cracked and of course the handlebar and bar/chain were wrecked. ATC185 wouldn't have done that much damage. ATC185 operator probably would have seen the saw and gas can and not driven over them.

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Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:30:41 PM EDT
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They were great vehicles and no one gave a damn from '69 until '81.

When they started making fast ATC250R's, that's when the trouble started.

The Tecate's, Tri-Z's, and all the ATC 200's and 350's were fun as hell too.

I have ridden just about all models of all ever made.

Dangerous? Sure.

Fun? Hell yes.

Suzuki Quadrunners changed the game and we never looked back.

I am guessing they would have died anyway.

BUT, screw the government.

Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:30:52 PM EDT
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3 wheelers were great. Even better if you knew how to ride one.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:31:03 PM EDT
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when the three wheeler was too dangerous back in the 80’s I ended up with one of these ....that went well..
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Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:31:25 PM EDT
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I read where the design for that came from a Honda employee competition. Every year they had all the employees submit ideas for stuff and that was one of them, some janitor or somebody thought it up.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:32:04 PM EDT
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my 85 250R was the most fun I have ever had. pants on or off. wasnt dangerous if you knew how to handle it.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:32:12 PM EDT
[#38]
I had the Big Red when I was about 11.  Owning it was pretty much like this for me.

Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:33:31 PM EDT
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Whether it was right or wrong I don't know.
But I do know I worked for a Kawasaki-Suzuki dealer at that time and after dealing with them squirrelly bastards I know I would never buy one.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:33:58 PM EDT
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ATC90?

Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:35:37 PM EDT
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my 85 250R was the most fun I have ever had. pants on or off. wasnt dangerous if you knew how to handle it.
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My '82 and I were like one.

Counter balance and throttle. 170 pound kid on a hopped up trike.

That thing hauled ass,  sideways.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:37:59 PM EDT
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I still have a 250 r
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:39:26 PM EDT
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I have the big red 200cc. I just mostly used it for dragging deer out of the woods. I never do any thing to it and each year it fired up first pull. It amazes how reliable that motor is.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:39:54 PM EDT
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Man those things were death traps. I had a good friend in 4th grade who smashed into a pole on one and was in a full body cast for months.  We used to push him around the playground at recess... imagine 4 kids pushing some dude in a full body cast in a pseudo wheelchair at full speed around a concrete playground with no teachers GAF.  This was early 80's.  

But Fuck our Government. Every aspect of it.  Free Americans should be able to die or get maimed however they damn well please.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:40:58 PM EDT
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Had no idea they were banned I just thought someone finally realized that four wheels was a better way at staying upright and not flying over one side of the handlebars.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:42:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:43:42 PM EDT
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.gov should’ve left them legal.

Darwin would of taken care of the rest
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:46:45 PM EDT
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Had no idea they were banned I just thought someone finally realized that four wheels was a better way at staying upright and not flying over one side of the handlebars.
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I remember using the fork lift at the dealership to move dozens of crates of them out to our back parking lots so the reps from the companies could take possession of them and have them placed in an 18 wheeler.
Not sure if true but my info was they were sent to shit hole countries to be sold.
Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:50:40 PM EDT
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my 85 250R was the most fun I have ever had. pants on or off. wasnt dangerous if you knew how to handle it.
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I recently rode quads with some friends. They did not "get" why I was leaning and moving all over the saddle. I was on a utility quad. Loaner.

They freaked when I rode areas that they couldn't even imagine approaching.

Not a brag thread.

Riding a trike taught skills. Counterweight.

Motorcycle is the opposite.


Link Posted: 5/22/2020 9:51:15 PM EDT
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Hell no it wasn't right.

But those shits were seriously dangerous. Have a cousin with many pins and screws in a leg and even I went over backwards riding on the back once or twice.
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