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Posted: 12/10/2018 11:13:16 AM EDT
It's been a while since I have checked out appliances but I was at Lowe's the other day and noticed that many of the washing machines (Whirlpool & Maytag anyway) had control knobs instead of buttons.  Upon closer inspection many even had agitators and features like the ability to add extra water.  Some even said "commercial grade" on them but who knows how true that is.  Are the old-school features making a comeback?

It was mentioned in another washing machine thread that Speed Queen was no longer making washers that lived up to their reputation due to some change in regulations.  Is that true?  My Maytag washer & dryer set has been solid but I figured I would get a Speed Queen set when it was time to replace them.  Now I'm not so sure and these new Maytag & Whirlpool offerings are intriguing.
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Speed Queen changed their drum design and now the drum and agitator are one piece and dont clean as well.

Guy made a YouTube vid about it so they pulled his dealer status.
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Speed Queen also added computer controls.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:37:47 AM EDT
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Interesting.  So are the new Speed Queens not worth it any longer?
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:42:24 AM EDT
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Those high efficiency washers are bullshit. Give me the kind that fills with water and actually cleans things.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:48:46 AM EDT
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This.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:51:37 AM EDT
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It's been a while since I have checked out appliances but I was at Lowe's the other day and noticed that many of the washing machines (Whirlpool & Maytag anyway) had control knobs instead of buttons.  Upon closer inspection many even had agitators and features like the ability to add extra water.  Some even said "commercial grade" on them but who knows how true that is.  Are the old-school features making a comeback?

It was mentioned in another washing machine thread that Speed Queen was no longer making washers that lived up to their reputation due to some change in regulations.  Is that true?  My Maytag washer & dryer set has been solid but I figured I would get a Speed Queen set when it was time to replace them.  Now I'm not so sure and these new Maytag & Whirlpool offerings are intriguing.
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That "commercial grade" design is the one that home washers have used since forever.  I'm on year 15 with the same Whirlpool commercial grade washer/dryer with the mechanical dials that came free with the house when it got built.  People are figuring out you just don't use most of the modes that are available on new sets, and are just more things to break.
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Those high efficiency washers are bullshit. Give me the kind that fills with water and actually cleans things.
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That's what I'm saying.  It looks like these new Maytag & Whirlpool washers have a deep fill option that fills the tub like the good ol' days.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:54:44 AM EDT
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My Whirplpool set is 24 years old and going strong. My wife is bound to buy something new soon, but I will not get ride of our current set. I will hook them up as back ups for when the new units take a dump (they will).
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they work fine

the detergent you have been using is crap, same as dish detergent
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:56:16 AM EDT
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they work fine

the detergent you have been using is crap, same as dish detergent
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they work fine

the detergent you have been using is crap, same as dish detergent
This.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:56:43 AM EDT
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Interesting.  So are the new Speed Queens not worth it any longer?
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You can still buy the old school workhorse model. It's just listed in their commercial line now in order to get around EPA regs, not all SQ dealers can source the commercial product.
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You can still buy the old school workhorse model. It's just listed in their commercial line now in order to get around EPA regs, not all SQ dealers can source the commercial product.
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Interesting.  So are the new Speed Queens not worth it any longer?
You can still buy the old school workhorse model. It's just listed in their commercial line now in order to get around EPA regs, not all SQ dealers can source the commercial product.
Ah, understood.  Thanks.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 11:58:42 AM EDT
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I love my old school Whirlpool.  I had an issue a couple years ago where the lid kill switch came apart (the glue deteriorated), which made it stop working, so I just bypassed it.  Sure it’s more dangerous and probably violates some building code, but now I can even watch it do its magic with the lid open.  Sometimes I’ll stand there and have a beer and just watch it swishing my clothes around, cleaning the hell out of them.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:00:08 PM EDT
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I went from a cheap GE washer with agitator to an LG HE w/o agitator.

LG cleans just as good if not better than my old GE.
Takes longer on most settings, but that doesn't bother me. Super quiet too.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:01:43 PM EDT
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That's what I'm saying.  It looks like these new Maytag & Whirlpool washers have a deep fill option that fills the tub like the good ol' days.
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I bought a GE top loader almost 2 years ago. It has given me some problems but it got repaired for free under warranty.
It has a deep fill option which is nice. I am skeptical of front loaders except the ones at the coin-op laundromat that have a door handle that makes it feel like I'm closing a submarine hatch.
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I love my old school Whirlpool.  I had an issue a couple years ago where the lid kill switch came apart (the glue deteriorated), which made it stop working, so I just bypassed it.  Sure it’s more dangerous and probably violates some building code, but now I can even watch it do its magic with the lid open.  Sometimes I’ll stand there and have a beer and just watch it swishing my clothes around, cleaning the hell out of them.
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Install a live cam. I bet you would gain an audience.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:03:53 PM EDT
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No idea what you are talking about.  The floor on every store I have ever seen has always had models with nobs and dials.
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No idea what you are talking about.  The floor on every store I have ever seen has always had models with nobs and dials.
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It's been awhile since I've looked at washers but last time I did look they seemed to all be button operated.  They might've had a single main knob but that was it.  At least in the more expensive section.  Same deal with agitators, seemed like a rarity last time I looked.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:15:06 PM EDT
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I love my old school Whirlpool.  I had an issue a couple years ago where the lid kill switch came apart (the glue deteriorated), which made it stop working, so I just bypassed it.  Sure it’s more dangerous and probably violates some building code, but now I can even watch it do its magic with the lid open.  Sometimes I’ll stand there and have a beer and just watch it swishing my clothes around, cleaning the hell out of them.
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Pour the beer in there and really enjoy the view.  May even get the cloths cleaner too.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:22:19 PM EDT
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they work fine

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Arfcom has a fix for that
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:25:45 PM EDT
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I love my old school Whirlpool.  I had an issue a couple years ago where the lid kill switch came apart (the glue deteriorated), which made it stop working, so I just bypassed it.  Sure it’s more dangerous and probably violates some building code, but now I can even watch it do its magic with the lid open.  Sometimes I’ll stand there and have a beer and just watch it swishing my clothes around, cleaning the hell out of them.
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My admitting to laughing at this and then dreamily thinking of clothes being really clean is going to get me made fun of (for some serious OCD) by @Rockhard13F but I’m ok with that.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:35:52 PM EDT
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I have current Whirlpool models for my washer and dryer.  They are both "high efficiency", but have yet to have any issues with them cleaning things.  Also, the dryer is strictly mechanical and appears to use primitive, reliable components.  Both are going on four years now with absolutely no sign of trouble.
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they work fine

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I have a front load HE, use Tide (liquid) Sport, and my clothes seem just as clean as my old Whirlpool tub. Not really sure I’m saving any money, since tje h2o company has raised their rates dramatically over the past 8yrs.

I know my water bill was lower when I replaced the tub, because a woman moved in and she seemed to be doing laundry every other day.

People have a bad habit of filling the front loaders with too many clothes too.

I use powdered detergent in my dishwasher that has phosphates, works like a charm, way better than the crap they sell at the store.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:45:59 PM EDT
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I love my old school Whirlpool.  I had an issue a couple years ago where the lid kill switch came apart (the glue deteriorated), which made it stop working, so I just bypassed it.  Sure it’s more dangerous and probably violates some building code, but now I can even watch it do its magic with the lid open.  Sometimes I’ll stand there and have a beer and just watch it swishing my clothes around, cleaning the hell out of them.
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I used to do this all the time when I was a kid, our washer had an accessible press in kill switch button so I'd open it up and push the switch in with my finger so I could watch the clothes being agitated.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:54:08 PM EDT
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Truth.

"High efficiency" just means low water usage.  It also means useless.  Any time I wash my fleece jackets a and such I have to set the machine for a second rinse or it won't rinse the soap out of them. If you don't it looks like it's got dried snot all over it when it comes out of the dryer.
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You're using too much detergent.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:57:10 PM EDT
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I just bought a new Maytag dryer on black Friday, old school all mechanical, knob, buzzer, it's like the 70's again. I had an older high-end Maytag washer w/agitator and a spare motor in storage so I got something that kind of matched for cheap.

My expensive Samsung front-load set wouldn't fit well in the new house so they're staying in the old one, they worked fine for 9 years but I think my clothes are getting cleaner now.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:57:37 PM EDT
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lol
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 12:59:25 PM EDT
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It's been awhile since I've looked at washers but last time I did look they seemed to all be button operated.  They might've had a single main knob but that was it.  At least in the more expensive section.  Same deal with agitators, seemed like a rarity last time I looked.
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Just bought a new set last week

Between Lowes Home Depot and Menards I'd say it was about 50/50 Buttons vs Knobs on the ones they offered

and about 40/60 agitator vs impeller
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 1:06:10 PM EDT
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My parents' whirlpool washer and dryer were older than I am when the dryer finally gave up the ghost last month. I really can't see spending major money on one with all the bells and whistles when they do a pretty simple job. The only complaint my mother ever had with it was the agitator meant the internal space was too small for comforters.

Theirs was knobs. I bought a samsung set last year that has buttons, although you pick the settings with a knob.
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I don't want something that spits water on my clothes.
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Interesting.  So are the new Speed Queens not worth it any longer?
You can still buy the old school workhorse model. It's just listed in their commercial line now in order to get around EPA regs, not all SQ dealers can source the commercial product.
Ah, understood.  Thanks.
Go to this site.  I have ordered many times from them. got the part in 2 days.  they even show videos of how to replace the part with out tearing down the whole machine.  Our lid switch got broke (by me wife said )  ordered the part got it morning of 2 day, did it the way they showed took all of 5 min. now anytime I need any appliance part I go to them. you can call them and they will help find the problem, great folks. there fix vids are all on you tube also.  know your mod number and serial no. any brand.  most use same parts anyway.  ge whirlpool magtag and many others made by same outfit. saved me big money and a lot of time. the lid switch cost me like $5

www.partselect.com
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That's what I'm saying.  It looks like these new Maytag & Whirlpool washers have a deep fill option that fills the tub like the good ol' days.
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That's what I'm saying.  It looks like these new Maytag & Whirlpool washers have a deep fill option that fills the tub like the good ol' days.
Until the government VW’s them.
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I love my old school Whirlpool.  I had an issue a couple years ago where the lid kill switch came apart (the glue deteriorated), which made it stop working, so I just bypassed it.  Sure it’s more dangerous and probably violates some building code, but now I can even watch it do its magic with the lid open.  Sometimes I’ll stand there and have a beer and just watch it swishing my clothes around, cleaning the hell out of them.
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Haha the same thing happened to mine as well.  I ended up putting a wiretie around it and it has been going good for two years now.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 1:27:17 PM EDT
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Dishwashers are the same way.

Ours died and we were going to buy a new one. I started checking them out in stores and on line and found out that they're junk.

So I'm going to just repair the old one.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 1:29:29 PM EDT
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I have an old Roper and Estate that I bought used from a friend nearly 15 years ago.  They were replacing them with new ones, and I think I paid $175 for both.  They are both still trucking along nicely.  I did have to replace the tub seal on the washing machine a while back, but that was my fault for trying to wash something I shouldn't have.
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www.partselect.com  is our friend.  they help trouble shoot the problem show vids on site and on you tube and can beat there service and price.  no I don't work for them just have used partselect many times.
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 1:31:23 PM EDT
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Just went through this search. Good luck finding the queen of the pigs... none of them are good anymore. At this point it’s an exercise of trying to find the one that sucks least and may last 3-5 yrs.
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Go to a used appliance store.
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This is the answer, although they are getting much harder to find and way more expensive.

Sent a friend to the same used place I bought my washer and dryer, 3 years ago for $300 for the set.
She got the same thing for $500 for the set...
Link Posted: 12/10/2018 1:42:40 PM EDT
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When we bought our house in 16, we bought some Maytag or whirlpool top loader (5.3 something or another) and the matching dryer.
The washer doesn't have an agitator and doesn't hardly use any water it seems, but it clean damn good on the deep clean cycle. It has gotten stuff out of my kids clothes that I didn't think it could.
The dryer works well, but on the eco stetting takes like 1.5hrs to dry vs maybe 45 min with non eco, not sure how that saves money.

They were like $700-800 total on sale I think. I can't remember, only thing i told my wife was no way in fuck we were getting a front loader.
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Been an appliance repair guy for 30+ years. This man speaks the truth. Keep it simple.... bottom of the line Whirlpool (or Maytag, same thing)  that is a top loader.

1. It works
2. NOT expensive
3. TOP loading
4. You will NOT have a personal relationship with your appliance guy
5. When it "shits the bed" its easier to make a decision whether you need to repair or replace.

FRONT LOADER WASHERS ARE SHIT! IF YOU BUY ONE, YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif I hate them! (can you tell?) They mold, they leak, they are expensive to fix.
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Nice!! I will add 6. Buy phosphate to add to the neutered detergent to get them really clean.
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This is true, you don’t always fill it to capacity.

I’ve never had an issue with fleece. A lot of times a little bit is all you need.
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they work fine

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Those high efficiency washers are bullshit. Give me the kind that fills with water and actually cleans things.
they work fine

the detergent you have been using is crap, same as dish detergent
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Dishwashers are the same way.

Ours died and we were going to buy a new one. I started checking them out in stores and on line and found out that they're junk.

So I'm going to just repair the old one.
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Those high efficiency washers are bullshit. Give me the kind that fills with water and actually cleans things.
Dishwashers are the same way.

Ours died and we were going to buy a new one. I started checking them out in stores and on line and found out that they're junk.

So I'm going to just repair the old one.
Man I wish I took this advice. Replaced an old maytag that the racks were all rusted and kept blowing a fuse. Went to home depot picked out another had it ordered. Uninstalled the old maytag and unplugged it....then fuse blew anyways. Had a bad connection in a receptacle 2 plugs up. I should have canceled the order of the new one.

It takes forever doesnt wash near as good.
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This
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2018 Speed Queen washer review, Speed queen Blacklisted me over this
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