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Posted: 7/14/2021 12:19:10 AM EDT
And 25% more to be EV ready.

https://www.q13fox.com/news/council-approves-requirement-for-electric-vehicle-charging-in-new-development

The new legislation requires the establishment of electric vehicle parking and charging stations in an effort towards the Council's Strategic Climate Action plan.

This means that new or remodeled apartment buildings must allocate 10% of their parking capacity to electric vehicle charging, and 25% of parking must be EV-ready (infrastructure is in place to install a charger in the future).
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That will definitely solve the housing crisis.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 12:26:21 AM EDT
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Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here
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Well that’s one way to make the rent go up.
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Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country.
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KingCo can go choke on a bag of ev powered dildos
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...and who pays for the electricity?
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Generally speaking the developer will wire the chargers up through a service that provides billing as well, or to the unit, whichever makes more sense based on how the parking is laid out.
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110v outlet on a weak 15a breaker. Done.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 12:40:49 AM EDT
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Because people that live in apartments have enough money to afford electric vehicles?

I love watching mental illness in action.
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Lol - power goes out more here than when I lived in Texas.
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Power in western Washington goes out on a sunny day, a drizzly day, frosty day, or when there’s a severe 11mph hurricane….oh and when there’s more than 2 birds on a wire somewhere.

Also, the green retards in Washington also like to forget the red state to the East it has to buy a lot of “non-green” power from.
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Lol - power goes out more here than when I lived in Texas.
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There's some river up here I think its called the Columbia that I believe has some generating capability that's pretty good.
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Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here

Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country.

And, there are enough EV drivers that this would probably draw renters as an incentive.
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Thats a really stupid statement........
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 1:12:31 AM EDT
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I mean look at the prices of apartments in King county.
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Power in western Washington goes out on a sunny day, a drizzly day, frosty day, or when there’s a severe 11mph hurricane….oh and when there’s more than 2 birds on a wire somewhere.

Also, the green retards in Washington also like to forget the red state to the East it has to buy a lot of “non-green” power from.
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Washington has cheap electricity from hydro which is awesome. The power lines are vulnerable because idiots have to live on 10,000sf lots in the county and well, trees. Texas has some trees in the east, kind of, but most everything there is shrubbery.

The point is if there’s a state that could do EVs it’s Washington.
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The median income of a king county apartment household is probably closing in on twice that of an Oklahoman.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 1:20:03 AM EDT
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lol I love reading naivety.
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Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country.


Decades of not trimming trees off of lines because of bambi and feels would like to have a word with you.

The state's infrastructure has started taking a massive shit in all sorts of ways and it's accelerating.

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If they're paying 2-8k a month in rent, sure, they likely can.

Part of this is a move to crush development; they're arm-twisting through all sorts of methods to try and get cheap shit built to stuff section 8 into, and developers that won't play ball have trouble - they're not allowed to just build all high end stuff.   So what will end up happening is nobody getting approved to build anything.

They have already gone through multiple multi-year stretches of permits and zoning getting held up all over the place.   Ultimately someone has the notion to price out everyone but the Cloud People and have the poors take the train in from outlying areas to do all the janitor type work.
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yeah okay bud.

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Washington has cheap electricity from hydro which is awesome. The power lines are vulnerable because idiots have to live on 10,000sf lots in the county and well, trees. Texas has some trees in the east, kind of, but most everything there is shrubbery.

The point is if there’s a state that could do EVs it’s Washington.


wrong again... power goes out in Lakewood, Tacoma, Puyallup, University Place.. everywhere, so that dumbass argument is busted.
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yeah okay bud.



wrong again... power goes out in Lakewood, Tacoma, Puyallup, University Place.. everywhere, so that dumbass argument is busted.
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We’re talking about the generation capacity to handle EVs. Hydro is a good setup for that. The lines are a separate issue, until you’re willing to pay for buries lines there’s not much to be done about that.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 3:56:51 AM EDT
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Do 25% of them have to be handicapped spots or does that get added on top of those?
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 4:05:04 AM EDT
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Jokes on them when there is no parking built because everyone is supposed to ride their bikes or take mass transit.

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It was, not anymore. It still doesn’t solve the problem of the lack of generation capacity to service the proposed transmission to electric vehicles.

If there was a need for the charging stations, they would be built without the need for a government mandate to build them. Mandating their construction is a waste of carbon credits.
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Put down the bong and step away from it.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 4:11:13 AM EDT
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The people who have to pay for the construction and who benefit from the revenue stream from the construction disagree with you. You should go to them with a proposal to finance the project.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 4:12:34 AM EDT
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That is one of the reasons they don’t have the cash for the extra cost of an EV.
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I would make the EV spots handicapped.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 4:44:41 AM EDT
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The government in pretty much every town and city has a heavy hand in the development market when it comes to parking. If parking minimums don't bother you, don't let this.
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Wow, finally something Illinois can be proud of!

Must be an oversight, we'll get right on it.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 7:55:36 AM EDT
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I was being sarcastic. I work in in hydro power.
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Power generation doesnt do any good if the delivery system fails.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 8:06:06 AM EDT
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What is 10% of zero?

Split parking into a separate corporation that bills per space.
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When Puerto Rico's power is more stable than Washington's.  Oooof
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 8:34:13 AM EDT
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Have they also decided where to locate the new power plant and fuel to be used?  Coal, NG, Nuclear, Hydro, Solar Farm ()........
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 8:59:06 AM EDT
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They found another way to ensure existing apartments are never renovated.
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Lol no shit. So is the grid failing? Who’s is failing? The PUDs, BPA, cities, pacificorp, Avista etc? Washington makes a shit load of power and has super cheap power prices because of it and it’s the reason so many data centers were built up here.
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Here's a novel idea: Why not let the market decide how many charging stations are installed?

If there's a demand for them, won't apartments offer them as an enticement to prospective renters?
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 9:08:03 AM EDT
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What can we do to make this lack of affordable housing situation worse?
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Nothing creates the political will to improve the grid better than pushing it to it's limits and breaking it.  

I'd be more concerned with the mandate being an edict rather than a market solution.

Charging stations will happen just fine on their own if the government stays out of the way other than providing for a regulatory framework for safe "code compliant" installation no different than any other building code.

There's money to be made in hosting charging stations and the government getting involved might fuck up that more sustainable approach.  Government mandated charging stations will eventually be neglected and go into a state of disrepair.  Market mandated charging stations will be well maintained and rationally allocated because they are by definition profitable.

The free market should decide this.



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Until it does.  The company that figures out the answer to this equation is the next xxx billion $ company.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 9:11:39 AM EDT
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I predict more copper thieves doing the 50 AMP quick cook.
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Get your shit together Vermont.  
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 9:14:26 AM EDT
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Does it say that the charging stations have to connect to the grid?


Link Posted: 7/14/2021 9:14:38 AM EDT
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I'm surprised it's not in building codes everywhere.
Link Posted: 7/14/2021 9:20:51 AM EDT
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So much this!
Why does everything need to mandated and regulated by government???

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The future is stupid.
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