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Posted: 7/14/2021 12:19:10 AM EDT
And 25% more to be EV ready.
https://www.q13fox.com/news/council-approves-requirement-for-electric-vehicle-charging-in-new-development The new legislation requires the establishment of electric vehicle parking and charging stations in an effort towards the Council's Strategic Climate Action plan. This means that new or remodeled apartment buildings must allocate 10% of their parking capacity to electric vehicle charging, and 25% of parking must be EV-ready (infrastructure is in place to install a charger in the future). |
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Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here
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Because people that live in apartments have enough money to afford electric vehicles?
I love watching mental illness in action. |
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Quoted: Lol - power goes out more here than when I lived in Texas. View Quote Quoted for truth Power in western Washington goes out on a sunny day, a drizzly day, frosty day, or when there’s a severe 11mph hurricane….oh and when there’s more than 2 birds on a wire somewhere. Also, the green retards in Washington also like to forget the red state to the East it has to buy a lot of “non-green” power from. |
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Quoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. And, there are enough EV drivers that this would probably draw renters as an incentive. |
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Everything west of 405 needs to be wiped off the map by a tsunami.
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Quoted: Quoted for truth Power in western Washington goes out on a sunny day, a drizzly day, frosty day, or when there’s a severe 11mph hurricane….oh and when there’s more than 2 birds on a wire somewhere. Also, the green retards in Washington also like to forget the red state to the East it has to buy a lot of “non-green” power from. View Quote Washington has cheap electricity from hydro which is awesome. The power lines are vulnerable because idiots have to live on 10,000sf lots in the county and well, trees. Texas has some trees in the east, kind of, but most everything there is shrubbery. The point is if there’s a state that could do EVs it’s Washington. |
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Quoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. Decades of not trimming trees off of lines because of bambi and feels would like to have a word with you. The state's infrastructure has started taking a massive shit in all sorts of ways and it's accelerating. Quoted: Because people that live in apartments have enough money to afford electric vehicles? I love watching mental illness in action. If they're paying 2-8k a month in rent, sure, they likely can. Part of this is a move to crush development; they're arm-twisting through all sorts of methods to try and get cheap shit built to stuff section 8 into, and developers that won't play ball have trouble - they're not allowed to just build all high end stuff. So what will end up happening is nobody getting approved to build anything. They have already gone through multiple multi-year stretches of permits and zoning getting held up all over the place. Ultimately someone has the notion to price out everyone but the Cloud People and have the poors take the train in from outlying areas to do all the janitor type work. |
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Quoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. yeah okay bud. Quoted: Washington has cheap electricity from hydro which is awesome. The power lines are vulnerable because idiots have to live on 10,000sf lots in the county and well, trees. Texas has some trees in the east, kind of, but most everything there is shrubbery. The point is if there’s a state that could do EVs it’s Washington. wrong again... power goes out in Lakewood, Tacoma, Puyallup, University Place.. everywhere, so that dumbass argument is busted. |
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Quoted: yeah okay bud. wrong again... power goes out in Lakewood, Tacoma, Puyallup, University Place.. everywhere, so that dumbass argument is busted. View Quote We’re talking about the generation capacity to handle EVs. Hydro is a good setup for that. The lines are a separate issue, until you’re willing to pay for buries lines there’s not much to be done about that. |
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Do 25% of them have to be handicapped spots or does that get added on top of those?
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Jokes on them when there is no parking built because everyone is supposed to ride their bikes or take mass transit.
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Quoted: Electric infrastructure in Washington is probably the best in the country. View Quote It was, not anymore. It still doesn’t solve the problem of the lack of generation capacity to service the proposed transmission to electric vehicles. If there was a need for the charging stations, they would be built without the need for a government mandate to build them. Mandating their construction is a waste of carbon credits. |
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Quoted: And, there are enough EV drivers that this would probably draw renters as an incentive. View Quote The people who have to pay for the construction and who benefit from the revenue stream from the construction disagree with you. You should go to them with a proposal to finance the project. |
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The government in pretty much every town and city has a heavy hand in the development market when it comes to parking. If parking minimums don't bother you, don't let this.
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What is 10% of zero?
Split parking into a separate corporation that bills per space. |
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View Quote When Puerto Rico's power is more stable than Washington's. Oooof |
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Have they also decided where to locate the new power plant and fuel to be used? Coal, NG, Nuclear, Hydro, Solar Farm ()........
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They found another way to ensure existing apartments are never renovated.
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Quoted: Power generation doesnt do any good if the delivery system fails. View Quote Lol no shit. So is the grid failing? Who’s is failing? The PUDs, BPA, cities, pacificorp, Avista etc? Washington makes a shit load of power and has super cheap power prices because of it and it’s the reason so many data centers were built up here. |
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Here's a novel idea: Why not let the market decide how many charging stations are installed?
If there's a demand for them, won't apartments offer them as an enticement to prospective renters? |
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What can we do to make this lack of affordable housing situation worse?
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Quoted: Fucking idiots completely ignore the fact that our power infrastructure absolutely cannot support the electric car only dream these morons have up here View Quote Nothing creates the political will to improve the grid better than pushing it to it's limits and breaking it. I'd be more concerned with the mandate being an edict rather than a market solution. Charging stations will happen just fine on their own if the government stays out of the way other than providing for a regulatory framework for safe "code compliant" installation no different than any other building code. There's money to be made in hosting charging stations and the government getting involved might fuck up that more sustainable approach. Government mandated charging stations will eventually be neglected and go into a state of disrepair. Market mandated charging stations will be well maintained and rationally allocated because they are by definition profitable. The free market should decide this. |
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Quoted: Here's a novel idea: Why not let the market decide how many charging stations are installed? If there's a demand for them, won't apartments offer them as an enticement to prospective renters? View Quote Why does everything need to mandated and regulated by government??? |
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Quoted: Does it say that the charging stations have to connect to the grid? https://thedriven.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IMG-0738-1280x720.jpg View Quote |
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