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I want the HK with the badass scope/reticle Billy Zane used in Sniper (1993).
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What makes sense in the context of the story is that the sheriff wanted to have his folks “well equipped”, hence the M16s (why cops in bumfuck WA need M16s, I don’t know, but I’ll bet the sheriff loved spending taxpayer money). The HK was the sniper/designated marksman rifle. Being the boss, he naturally appropriated the best/coolest weapon.
As a person that lives in a town where feral bums run wild, the sheriff’s position on vagrancy makes more sense to me. |
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Quoted: My take on this: How freaking odd! The wife hadn’t seen First Blood since it came out, so we watched it last night on Pluto also. And then it’s mentioned on Arf today. Que the Twilight Zone theme song And I wondered why the sheriff had a different gun. I’m assuming that police departments were getting free M16s from the government in the early 80s. Anybody know if that’s accurate? View Quote |
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Quoted: Because it was a time of gun porn in movies. View Quote Attached File H&K was the shizit back then. |
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HOLY SCHNIKES! Is That For Me? No Son, That's For Me. Tommy Boy (1995).. Chris Farley, Brian Dennehy |
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When they remake Rambo I, they should use maligators. One lives after the forest tracking scene. Then they make Rambo II- Second Bite, but from the doggo's perspective as he goes on one more mission to take down the CIA that set him up for a crime he didn't commit...
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Most of the comments are on the right track. I was just a kid in the 80s but I loved my gun magazines and things were different in the 80s. Today everyone wants some variant of an AR tricked out according to their personal taste. In the 80s, it was a sort of badge of honor to have some exotic piece of hardware that stood out from the rest. That’s why the A-Team showed up in season two with those mini 14s. Those of you who are older than me and who were into guns in the 1980s might’ve known all about Mini 14’s, but most people had no idea what they were. if you were reading some spy novel or mercenary adventure novel, the hero would almost invariably be armed with some exotic piece of hardware such as a south African mamba pistol. Nobody knew anything about the mamba, except that we couldn’t get them here. So therefore it must be awesome!
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More likely he wouldve had a lever action of some kind or a BAR hunting rifle.
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Why did Col Trautman have a SF crest on his beret? That is not correct for officers.
Anyway, remember that the easy going, well adjusted and somewhat care free Rambo was in the movie. The book Rambo smoked everyone, including a few random townspeople. |
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Quoted: Why did Col Trautman have a SF crest on his beret? That is not correct for officers. Anyway, remember that the easy going, well adjusted and somewhat care free Rambo was in the movie. The book Rambo smoked everyone, including a few random townspeople. View Quote There was a book? LOL |
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Art Galt was a real dumbass, trying to shoot Rambo on a crowded street
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Quoted: He was a cop. Ergo, correctly portrayed as the average cop. Also known as, a piece of shit. View Quote I read the book several decades ago, before the movie came out. If I remember correctly the Sheriff (a Korean War veteran) was actually the good guy, dealing with a psychopath made that way because of the war. I think Hollywood reversed the roles. |
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my hometown PD, County Sheriffs and OHP Troopers carried whatever they wanted. issued GB-20's with or without the folding stock, VN Surplus M-16's, FAL's, HK's, CAR-16's, M-1 Carbines, Winchester 30-30's and SKS's |
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Quoted: What makes sense in the context of the story is that the sheriff wanted to have his folks "well equipped", hence the M16s (why cops in bumfuck WA need M16s, I don't know, but I'll bet the sheriff loved spending taxpayer money). View Quote A socialist donut is no kind of donut at all. |
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Quoted: Most of the comments are on the right track. I was just a kid in the 80s but I loved my gun magazines and things were different in the 80s. Today everyone wants some variant of an AR tricked out according to their personal taste. In the 80s, it was a sort of badge of honor to have some exotic piece of hardware that stood out from the rest. That's why the A-Team showed up in season two with those mini 14s. Those of you who are older than me and who were into guns in the 1980s might've known all about Mini 14's, but most people had no idea what they were. if you were reading some spy novel or mercenary adventure novel, the hero would almost invariably be armed with some exotic piece of hardware such as a south African mamba pistol. Nobody knew anything about the mamba, except that we couldn't get them here. So therefore it must be awesome! View Quote |
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Quoted: I read the book several decades ago, before the movie came out. If I remember correctly the Sheriff (a Korean War veteran) was actually the good guy, dealing with a psychopath made that way because of the war. I think Hollywood reversed the roles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He was a cop. Ergo, correctly portrayed as the average cop. Also known as, a piece of shit. I read the book several decades ago, before the movie came out. If I remember correctly the Sheriff (a Korean War veteran) was actually the good guy, dealing with a psychopath made that way because of the war. I think Hollywood reversed the roles. That’s missed by a lot of the movie goers. One of the themes of the movie is the old warriors vs the new warriors. The Sheriff is a decorated Korean War combat vet. He represents the generation of warriors that were able to turn it off and reintegrate into civilian life when they came home. Rambo couldn’t do that. It might also explain why he geared up his deputies with rifles. He’s a “been there, done that” guy. |
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Quoted: Most of the comments are on the right track. I was just a kid in the 80s but I loved my gun magazines and things were different in the 80s. Today everyone wants some variant of an AR tricked out according to their personal taste. In the 80s, it was a sort of badge of honor to have some exotic piece of hardware that stood out from the rest. That’s why the A-Team showed up in season two with those mini 14s. Those of you who are older than me and who were into guns in the 1980s might’ve known all about Mini 14’s, but most people had no idea what they were. if you were reading some spy novel or mercenary adventure novel, the hero would almost invariably be armed with some exotic piece of hardware such as a south African mamba pistol. Nobody knew anything about the mamba, except that we couldn’t get them here. So therefore it must be awesome! View Quote I don’t know about that. I don’t think the Mini-14 was EVER perceived as some sort of exotic weapon. They were always the less expensive, politically correct and traditional/friendly/at least less scary looking alternative to the unquestionably modern military look, and to many people, menacing appearance of the M16/AR-15. Sorry, Mini-14 fans, but the gun was basically conceived, designed and manufactured as maybe the original FUDD gun. A more likely explanation for why the A-Team used Mini-14s is something that I heard decades ago. George Peppard did not like the aforementioned aggressive military appearance of the AR-15 and for whatever reason wanted to tone down that aspect of the TV show. He may have actually even been anti-gun. This also fits in with reports that Peppard had a tendency to clash with producers over his demands for creative input into the movies and shows he was cast in. |
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Quoted: It's kind of an easter egg for gun literate viewers that explains Sheriff Teasle's hostility toward John Rambo, whom he perceived as a poor. View Quote Attached File |
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At one time I owned an HK93 (.223 cal.) and it was heavy as hell. It even had thick steel mags. No way was I going to lug that around when an AR15 (just as good) was so much lighter. I did make a pretty penny when I sold it though.
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Quoted: Because he’s better than everyone else and he hates you… https://www.glocktalk.com/attachments/hk-stop-being-poor-jpg.1284244/ View Quote Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: That’s missed by a lot of the movie goers. One of the themes of the movie is the old warriors vs the new warriors. The Sheriff is a decorated Korean War combat vet. He represents the generation of warriors that were able to turn it off and reintegrate into civilian life when they came home. Rambo couldn’t do that. It might also explain why he geared up his deputies with rifles. He’s a “been there, done that” guy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a cop. Ergo, correctly portrayed as the average cop. Also known as, a piece of shit. I read the book several decades ago, before the movie came out. If I remember correctly the Sheriff (a Korean War veteran) was actually the good guy, dealing with a psychopath made that way because of the war. I think Hollywood reversed the roles. That’s missed by a lot of the movie goers. One of the themes of the movie is the old warriors vs the new warriors. The Sheriff is a decorated Korean War combat vet. He represents the generation of warriors that were able to turn it off and reintegrate into civilian life when they came home. Rambo couldn’t do that. It might also explain why he geared up his deputies with rifles. He’s a “been there, done that” guy. They should have used M1 and M2 carbines, those actually got handed out to PD's and would have been extensively used in the Korean war. |
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Because it was a movie and they wanted to differentiate the Sheriff from everyone else, show importance.
The US version HK90-series were and are shit guns because of the shit trigger and the ATF mandated exclusion of the paddle. Quoted: Sheriff Teasle did nothing wrong. View Quote He didn’t. Rambo was told he wasn’t welcome, he was driven to the limit, and told not to comeback. Rambo then decided to comeback and was arrested. But, because he’s a “vet” he gets a pass. Then he kills a bunch of people and wrecks a town. Somehow or another, because he is not only a “vet”, he’s a SF vet, he becomes the good guy. I would argue that Rambo pushed the locals, not the other way around. |
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Quoted: Yeah I don't agree with that at all. I've been on Paramount Action on every night for noise and have went through all the seasons. A-team had a lot of exotic weapons and they used the mini 14s for good guys and bad guys. Hannibal had a Wilkinson Linda the other night. I think they were in competition with Miami Vice for most exotic weaponry. Season 4 and 5 used a lot of Augs. https://imfdb.org/images/4/47/A_Team_S5_TGTHK.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Most of the comments are on the right track. I was just a kid in the 80s but I loved my gun magazines and things were different in the 80s. Today everyone wants some variant of an AR tricked out according to their personal taste. In the 80s, it was a sort of badge of honor to have some exotic piece of hardware that stood out from the rest. That's why the A-Team showed up in season two with those mini 14s. Those of you who are older than me and who were into guns in the 1980s might've known all about Mini 14's, but most people had no idea what they were. if you were reading some spy novel or mercenary adventure novel, the hero would almost invariably be armed with some exotic piece of hardware such as a south African mamba pistol. Nobody knew anything about the mamba, except that we couldn't get them here. So therefore it must be awesome! I don't know about that. I don't think the Mini-14 was EVER perceived as some sort of exotic weapon. They were always the less expensive, politically correct and traditional/friendly/at least less scary looking alternative to the unquestionably modern military look, and to many people, menacing appearance of the M16/AR-15. Sorry, Mini-14 fans, but the gun was basically conceived, designed and manufactured as maybe the original FUDD gun. A more likely explanation for why the A-Team used Mini-14s is something that I heard decades ago. George Peppard did not like the aforementioned aggressive military appearance of the AR-15 and for whatever reason wanted to tone down that aspect of the TV show. He may have actually even been anti-gun. This also fits in with reports that Peppard had a tendency to clash with producers over his demands for creative input into the movies and shows he was cast in. https://imfdb.org/images/4/47/A_Team_S5_TGTHK.jpg Well such a dispute would have been a back-and-forth tug of war, with Peppard having less influence as the show’s ratings declined in the later seasons and the producers trying other things to maintain interest in the show. Like, maybe actual exotic weaponry. Makes sense from that perspective, but I guess who of us really knows. I wish I could find the article or interview that discussed it. At any rate, the Mini-14 having ever been considered some sort of exotic, state of the art weapon is laughable at best. Even the Wilkinson Linda with it’s wood fore stock doesn’t exactly scream modern in a world of ARs, MP5s, UZIs, etc. |
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Quoted: They should have used M1 and M2 carbines, those actually got handed out to PD's and would have been extensively used in the Korean war. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He was a cop. Ergo, correctly portrayed as the average cop. Also known as, a piece of shit. I read the book several decades ago, before the movie came out. If I remember correctly the Sheriff (a Korean War veteran) was actually the good guy, dealing with a psychopath made that way because of the war. I think Hollywood reversed the roles. That’s missed by a lot of the movie goers. One of the themes of the movie is the old warriors vs the new warriors. The Sheriff is a decorated Korean War combat vet. He represents the generation of warriors that were able to turn it off and reintegrate into civilian life when they came home. Rambo couldn’t do that. It might also explain why he geared up his deputies with rifles. He’s a “been there, done that” guy. They should have used M1 and M2 carbines, those actually got handed out to PD's and would have been extensively used in the Korean war. Agree. It would have made more sense. |
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Different gun for the cop that wouldn't let Rambo get a cheeseburger.
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Sometimes the simpler explanation can be the right one, maybe? I theorize that the A-Team was cast using Mini14s because the stainless steel stood out better on film. Much like Miami Vice had the Bren 10 hard chromed for better visual effects.
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Quoted: Because it was a movie and they wanted to differentiate the Sheriff from everyone else, show importance. The US version HK90-series were and are shit guns because of the shit trigger and the ATF mandated exclusion of the paddle. He didn’t. Rambo was told he wasn’t welcome, he was driven to the limit, and told not to comeback. Rambo then decided to comeback and was arrested. But, because he’s a “vet” he gets a pass. Then he kills a bunch of people and wrecks a town. Somehow or another, because he is not only a “vet”, he’s a SF vet, he becomes the good guy. I would argue that Rambo pushed the locals, not the other way around. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Because it was a movie and they wanted to differentiate the Sheriff from everyone else, show importance. The US version HK90-series were and are shit guns because of the shit trigger and the ATF mandated exclusion of the paddle. Quoted: Sheriff Teasle did nothing wrong. He didn’t. Rambo was told he wasn’t welcome, he was driven to the limit, and told not to comeback. Rambo then decided to comeback and was arrested. But, because he’s a “vet” he gets a pass. Then he kills a bunch of people and wrecks a town. Somehow or another, because he is not only a “vet”, he’s a SF vet, he becomes the good guy. I would argue that Rambo pushed the locals, not the other way around. All he wanted was something to eat, but that king shit cop kept pushing |
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Quoted: All he wanted was something to eat, but that king shit cop kept pushing View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Because it was a movie and they wanted to differentiate the Sheriff from everyone else, show importance. The US version HK90-series were and are shit guns because of the shit trigger and the ATF mandated exclusion of the paddle. Quoted: Sheriff Teasle did nothing wrong. He didn’t. Rambo was told he wasn’t welcome, he was driven to the limit, and told not to comeback. Rambo then decided to comeback and was arrested. But, because he’s a “vet” he gets a pass. Then he kills a bunch of people and wrecks a town. Somehow or another, because he is not only a “vet”, he’s a SF vet, he becomes the good guy. I would argue that Rambo pushed the locals, not the other way around. All he wanted was something to eat, but that king shit cop kept pushing Sheriff didn’t want a drifter hanging out in town because the first thing you know, you’ve got a whole bunch of drifters in town. How’s that quote holding up in 2024? Especially considering the state of things in the cities where Rambo claimed to be going to, Seattle or Portland? |
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Quoted: I read the book several decades ago, before the movie came out. If I remember correctly the Sheriff (a Korean War veteran) was actually the good guy, dealing with a psychopath made that way because of the war. I think Hollywood reversed the roles. View Quote |
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Sheriff Teasle was a democratic elected sheriff in Washington state that embezzled funds from the city budget to buy fancy stuff.
He also hated veterans and wanted to stick it to John Rambo because of his veteran status. Maybe he was mad because Rambo got a free dinner for Veterans Day. Plus Troutman and were Brovets, maybe Teasle hates Brovets? |
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He was a villain. Bad guys in the 80s always had guns made by Nazis or former Nazis.
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Quoted: Because it was a movie and they wanted to differentiate the Sheriff from everyone else, show importance. The US version HK90-series were and are shit guns because of the shit trigger and the ATF mandated exclusion of the paddle. He didn’t. Rambo was told he wasn’t welcome, he was driven to the limit, and told not to comeback. Rambo then decided to comeback and was arrested. But, because he’s a “vet” he gets a pass. Then he kills a bunch of people and wrecks a town. Somehow or another, because he is not only a “vet”, he’s a SF vet, he becomes the good guy. I would argue that Rambo pushed the locals, not the other way around. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Because it was a movie and they wanted to differentiate the Sheriff from everyone else, show importance. The US version HK90-series were and are shit guns because of the shit trigger and the ATF mandated exclusion of the paddle. Quoted: Sheriff Teasle did nothing wrong. He didn’t. Rambo was told he wasn’t welcome, he was driven to the limit, and told not to comeback. Rambo then decided to comeback and was arrested. But, because he’s a “vet” he gets a pass. Then he kills a bunch of people and wrecks a town. Somehow or another, because he is not only a “vet”, he’s a SF vet, he becomes the good guy. I would argue that Rambo pushed the locals, not the other way around. They drew first blood. |
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Quoted: Sheriff didn’t want a drifter hanging out in town because the first thing you know, you’ve got a whole bunch of drifters in town. How’s that quote holding up in 2024? Especially considering the state of things in the cities where Rambo claimed to be going to, Seattle or Portland? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because it was a movie and they wanted to differentiate the Sheriff from everyone else, show importance. The US version HK90-series were and are shit guns because of the shit trigger and the ATF mandated exclusion of the paddle. Quoted: Sheriff Teasle did nothing wrong. He didn’t. Rambo was told he wasn’t welcome, he was driven to the limit, and told not to comeback. Rambo then decided to comeback and was arrested. But, because he’s a “vet” he gets a pass. Then he kills a bunch of people and wrecks a town. Somehow or another, because he is not only a “vet”, he’s a SF vet, he becomes the good guy. I would argue that Rambo pushed the locals, not the other way around. All he wanted was something to eat, but that king shit cop kept pushing Sheriff didn’t want a drifter hanging out in town because the first thing you know, you’ve got a whole bunch of drifters in town. How’s that quote holding up in 2024? Especially considering the state of things in the cities where Rambo claimed to be going to, Seattle or Portland? Everybody wants to bring back vagrancy laws until it’s time to enforce vagrancy laws. |
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