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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:10:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I paid into the system for 50 years. If you think you're going to take something away from me what I paid for, you've got another think coming. You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone. True, but that tax is a specific line item with the name "Social Security". So, it can be inferred that it was specifically for a program that you may eventually benefit from. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:11:42 AM EST
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Great, awesome. Let's end social security. Now pay me, and everyone else back our money.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:12:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This... completely eliminate EBT, WIC, SNAP, and SSDI for most of the freeloaders... Eta: quit paying shit to breed... Only about 1.5% of food stamps are subject to fraud. Remarkably, the bulk of this fraud is not perpetuated by the numerous recipients but rather by a select few. In fact, the incidence of fraud among recipients is notably low. The major culprits are retailers and cyber criminals. For instance, a retailer might overcharge SNAP and then pocket the excess, or cyber criminals might claim benefits on behalf of unsuspecting recipients. The evidence supporting the benefits of food stamps is compelling. Consider the alternative: without food stamps, many recipients would be faced with the dire choice of eating insufficiently or foregoing other essential expenses like rent or utilities. For these individuals, food stamps dramatically enhance outcomes across various life domains. They have been linked to improved educational achievements, better health metrics, increased lifetime earnings, and they also decrease the risks of incarceration, premature death, and homelessness. Evaluating the benefits against the costs, the impact of food stamps is undeniably positive. To enhance the SNAP system, there's a plethora of options available. One significant issue to address is the welfare "cliff," where recipients see a sudden decrease in their benefits upon reaching a certain income level. This system can inadvertently deter individuals from seeking higher wages; for example, earning slightly more by working extra hours might lead to a loss of SNAP or housing benefits, resulting in a net financial setback. For someone precariously balancing on the poverty line, this choice becomes daunting. To further advance health outcomes, there's potential in revising SNAP's coverage. For instance, promoting the purchase of more nutritious staples like rice and tortillas, while curbing the consumption of less nutritious items like sodas – which are currently popular due to their affordability and calorie density. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:12:39 AM EST
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I have two other ways to achieve the same goal.
1) Drastically cut welfare 2) Lower spending. I am happy to cut the federal budget to get a surplus to allow corporate tax cuts and reducing the debt. I get 5% of the amount cut tax free (state and federal tax). |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:12:49 AM EST
[#5]
lol, youre a real compassionate gem, arent you
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:12:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This topic comes up often in the how can we send more money to the Ukraine threads. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did you subtract the SS expense and the FICA taxes collected? My guess is that you did not deduct the FICA taxes collected. Up until 2021 the FICA taxes exceeded the SS expense. The estimated SS shortfall in 2023 is $53B. What triggered your latest attack on SS? This isn't the first time you have advocated stealing money from seniors. Source Thanks, I don’t spend much time in the Ukraine threads. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:13:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do I get all of the money I paid in back? If not, then fuck off. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:13:58 AM EST
[#8]
you have no idea what you are talking about
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:14:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I paid into the system for 50 years. If you think you're going to take something away from me what I paid for, you've got another think coming. You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:14:45 AM EST
[#10]
nah, we'll just take yours...thanks in advance
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:16:10 AM EST
[#11]
at this point you are trolling and are an annoying pos
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:16:18 AM EST
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But do you still want me to pay SS tax? The issue is off the rails spending. Getting rid of SS is somewhere down a long list of concerns to me. Student loans? Ukraine? EBT? Even then, look at the spending bills that pass. They toss in money for museums, art projects, weird "scientific" studies, etc. The answer is to stop all the stupid fucking waste and eliminate most of the gov agencies. I'd like to see the gov employee list cut in half or more.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:16:45 AM EST
[#13]
you just want money to bail out your SL
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:16:50 AM EST
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So cut SS benefit but keep collecting the taxes that fun SS to have a balanced budget?
1. Why would I want that? Why would I want to receive less while paying the same just to make up for the fact that DC is bad at managing money? 2. They would spend the money on something else. More money does not solve poor spending habits. So even if this happened they would just resume deficit spending. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:17:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EBT expenditures are off by an entire order of magnitude compared to social security spending. If they would stop stealing from S.S. there would be a surplus. What do you think paid for Trump's first Impeachment |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:17:26 AM EST
[#16]
gee, so glad you are ok with it
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:18:27 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only about 1.5% of food stamps are subject to fraud. Remarkably, the bulk of this fraud is not perpetuated by the numerous recipients but rather by a select few. In fact, the incidence of fraud among recipients is notably low. The major culprits are retailers and cyber criminals. For instance, a retailer might overcharge SNAP and then pocket the excess, or cyber criminals might claim benefits on behalf of unsuspecting recipients. The evidence supporting the benefits of food stamps is compelling. Consider the alternative: without food stamps, many recipients would be faced with the dire choice of eating insufficiently or foregoing other essential expenses like rent or utilities. For these individuals, food stamps dramatically enhance outcomes across various life domains. They have been linked to improved educational achievements, better health metrics, increased lifetime earnings, and they also decrease the risks of incarceration, premature death, and homelessness. Evaluating the benefits against the costs, the impact of food stamps is undeniably positive. To enhance the SNAP system, there's a plethora of options available. One significant issue to address is the welfare "cliff," where recipients see a sudden decrease in their benefits upon reaching a certain income level. This system can inadvertently deter individuals from seeking higher wages; for example, earning slightly more by working extra hours might lead to a loss of SNAP or housing benefits, resulting in a net financial setback. For someone precariously balancing on the poverty line, this choice becomes daunting. To further advance health outcomes, there's potential in revising SNAP's coverage. For instance, promoting the purchase of more nutritious staples like rice and tortillas, while curbing the consumption of less nutritious items like sodas – which are currently popular due to their affordability and calorie density. 1.5% is 1.5%... fuck em... |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:19:42 AM EST
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Lets lock SS up in a lockbox.
It goes to the boomers who were grifted for 30+ years. Then! start a new socialist security system where You get taxed all your working life, and it will generate returns for the inner city development and cultivation, until it dont, then propose you get nothing, and will like it. Wait…. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:22:09 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I paid into the system for 50 years. If you think you're going to take something away from me what I paid for, you've got another think coming. Don't bother, it's the usual blame the boomers thread for young people's failures in life. Got to have that 1k or more Iphone every year, no way they will settle for less, but throw the entitled mentality word at everyone else. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:22:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really can’t understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I paid into the system for 50 years. If you think you're going to take something away from me what I paid for, you've got another think coming. You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone. Really can’t understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. I can’t understand why people think calling something a tax means the government doesn’t have to keep its word. They can change the law but they almost certainly know they will be voted out of office and never elected again. The vast majority of politicians don’t have a political death wish. It is not going to happen. Period, end of story. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:23:01 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I paid into the system for 50 years. If you think you're going to take something away from me what I paid for, you've got another think coming. You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone. Don't you have a Social Security number? Go to the link and set up your password. You can check your contributions, and calculate your projected payout. It's easy, and you should be verifying your contributions on a regular basis. Some of you guys just make shit up. It's all documented, and the amount owed is right there on the website. https://www.ssa.gov/ |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:33:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't you have a Social Security number? Go to the link and set up your password. You can check your contributions, and calculate your projected payout. It's easy, and you should be verifying your contributions on a regular basis. Some of you guys just make shit up. It's all documented, and the amount owed is right there on the website. https://www.ssa.gov/ Social security is a tax and the benefits can be changed at any time. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:37:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Social security is a tax and the benefits can be changed at any time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't you have a Social Security number? Go to the link and set up your password. You can check your contributions, and calculate your projected payout. It's easy, and you should be verifying your contributions on a regular basis. Some of you guys just make shit up. It's all documented, and the amount owed is right there on the website. https://www.ssa.gov/ Social security is a tax and the benefits can be changed at any time. I know....and last year it went up 8.7%. Doom! 
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:38:36 AM EST
[#24]
We wouldn't end deficit spending by eliminating social security.
The assholes would simply something else to spend it on, like more drag shows in elementary schools. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:39:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm fully aware that SS will not exist in its current form when I reach that age in 26 years, so I'm planning accordingly. It's a Ponzi scheme for those in my age group and younger. FWIW I was told the exact same thing in 1974…… |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:40:38 AM EST
[#26]
It would crash the housing market pretty well once all those old folks are kicked out of the homes they're in now.
That would lower the cost of the free housing we're giving to all the Section 8 folks. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:49:32 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cut EBT instead. At least SS recipients worked and paid taxes for years. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:52:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only about 1.5% of food stamps are subject to fraud. Remarkably, the bulk of this fraud is not perpetuated by the numerous recipients but rather by a select few. In fact, the incidence of fraud among recipients is notably low. The major culprits are retailers and cyber criminals. For instance, a retailer might overcharge SNAP and then pocket the excess, or cyber criminals might claim benefits on behalf of unsuspecting recipients. The evidence supporting the benefits of food stamps is compelling. Consider the alternative: without food stamps, many recipients would be faced with the dire choice of eating insufficiently or foregoing other essential expenses like rent or utilities. For these individuals, food stamps dramatically enhance outcomes across various life domains. They have been linked to improved educational achievements, better health metrics, increased lifetime earnings, and they also decrease the risks of incarceration, premature death, and homelessness. Evaluating the benefits against the costs, the impact of food stamps is undeniably positive. To enhance the SNAP system, there's a plethora of options available. One significant issue to address is the welfare "cliff," where recipients see a sudden decrease in their benefits upon reaching a certain income level. This system can inadvertently deter individuals from seeking higher wages; for example, earning slightly more by working extra hours might lead to a loss of SNAP or housing benefits, resulting in a net financial setback. For someone precariously balancing on the poverty line, this choice becomes daunting. To further advance health outcomes, there's potential in revising SNAP's coverage. For instance, promoting the purchase of more nutritious staples like rice and tortillas, while curbing the consumption of less nutritious items like sodas – which are currently popular due to their affordability and calorie density. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This... completely eliminate EBT, WIC, SNAP, and SSDI for most of the freeloaders... Eta: quit paying shit to breed... Only about 1.5% of food stamps are subject to fraud. Remarkably, the bulk of this fraud is not perpetuated by the numerous recipients but rather by a select few. In fact, the incidence of fraud among recipients is notably low. The major culprits are retailers and cyber criminals. For instance, a retailer might overcharge SNAP and then pocket the excess, or cyber criminals might claim benefits on behalf of unsuspecting recipients. The evidence supporting the benefits of food stamps is compelling. Consider the alternative: without food stamps, many recipients would be faced with the dire choice of eating insufficiently or foregoing other essential expenses like rent or utilities. For these individuals, food stamps dramatically enhance outcomes across various life domains. They have been linked to improved educational achievements, better health metrics, increased lifetime earnings, and they also decrease the risks of incarceration, premature death, and homelessness. Evaluating the benefits against the costs, the impact of food stamps is undeniably positive. To enhance the SNAP system, there's a plethora of options available. One significant issue to address is the welfare "cliff," where recipients see a sudden decrease in their benefits upon reaching a certain income level. This system can inadvertently deter individuals from seeking higher wages; for example, earning slightly more by working extra hours might lead to a loss of SNAP or housing benefits, resulting in a net financial setback. For someone precariously balancing on the poverty line, this choice becomes daunting. To further advance health outcomes, there's potential in revising SNAP's coverage. For instance, promoting the purchase of more nutritious staples like rice and tortillas, while curbing the consumption of less nutritious items like sodas – which are currently popular due to their affordability and calorie density. Well, that’s certainly the libtard way of looking at it. Howabout, It’s ALL Fraud. They don’t deserve free handouts, and I don’t deserve to be enslaved into paying for it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:54:35 AM EST
[#29]
I've given the Social Security Administration $300k with the understanding that they would give it back to me at the end of my productive work years.
The fact that some fuckhead stole it from the SSA doesn't relieve the SSA of their responsibility. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:55:39 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have two other ways to achieve the same goal. 1) Drastically cut welfare 2) Lower spending. I am happy to cut the federal budget to get a surplus to allow corporate tax cuts and reducing the debt. I get 5% of the amount cut tax free (state and federal tax). You are saying exactly the same thing as the OP, but lack the perspective to see it. Because your face is buried eyes-deep in the government money trough. Your free shit, which are subsidized retirement payments and medical care (the OP will need to add Medicare and Medicaid to the chopping block to come close to his goal), is welfare. Just like LockMart getting a government program of three to screw around with and eventually, maybe, make a usable product. Just like Israel and Egypt getting military aid, but I repeat myself. And just like 'Stereotypical racial name here' whining that her AFDC won't let her get her nails and hair did this month. All of the.above are provided to the recipients at below cost. For reasons. Usually because the recipients control a lot of votes. The rest of the cost is put on the US Government credit card, and eventually paid by you and me and every other net Federal taxpayer. That provided below cost part makes it a subsidy, and that subsidy makes it welfare. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:58:03 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really can’t understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I paid into the system for 50 years. If you think you're going to take something away from me what I paid for, you've got another think coming. You didn’t pay into anything. You paid taxes. The governs t took your taxes and spent it. There is nothing to give back to you, your money is gone. Really can’t understand why this is a hard concept to grasp.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:58:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, youre a real compassionate gem, arent you You have the balls to complain about a lack of compassion on this discussion board?! Where half of the membership proudly says and agrees with things like, "Sympathy is found between "Shit" and "Syphillis" in the dictionary."? lol. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:01:09 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: THIS The $2400 a month SS is great, I don't need it as I have a private pension and great investments to keep me very comfortable in my retirement years. But if it makes the avocado toast eaters and the fu fu coffee drinkers angry then I will keep taking it.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about you youngsters get more overtime or an extra job to keep us old people in luxury  The $2400 a month SS is great, I don't need it as I have a private pension and great investments to keep me very comfortable in my retirement years. But if it makes the avocado toast eaters and the fu fu coffee drinkers angry then I will keep taking it. Let’s be honest. You will keep taking it, because you love Free Money. It ain’t got a god damned thing to do with offending the younger generation. You don’t have to make excuses or rationalizations. Dishonestly clouds the issue. Every living creature loves Free Shit. That’s why we aren’t allowed to feed the Bears or Dolphins. Even the once proud and fierce Eagle, is corrupted and ruined by free shit. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:02:10 AM EST
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Quoted: From my chatgpt calculations: Let's calculate the hypothetical federal deficit for the past ten years by subtracting the Social Security outlays. Here's an approximation based on available data up to September 2021: **Year** - **Reported Federal Deficit (in billions)** - **Social Security Outlays (in billions)** - **Hypothetical Deficit (in billions)** 1. **2011** - $1,300 - $725 = $575 2. **2012** - $1,087 - $773 = $314 3. **2013** - $679 - $808 = -$129 (surplus) 4. **2014** - $485 - $848 = -$363 (surplus) 5. **2015** - $438 - $882 = -$444 (surplus) 6. **2016** - $585 - $910 = -$325 (surplus) 7. **2017** - $665 - $945 = -$280 (surplus) 8. **2018** - $779 - $987 = -$208 (surplus) 9. **2019** - $984 - $1,059 = -$75 (surplus) 10. **2020** - $3,132 - $1,091 = $2,041 Ditching Social Security would in the best case result in the party that voted it in being completely massacred in the next election….at worst trigger a real insurrection, as opposed to the ghey 1/6 “Insurrection”. Which is why it will never happen. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:04:49 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've given the Social Security Administration $300k with the understanding that they would give it back to me at the end of my productive work years. The fact that some fuckhead stole it from the SSA doesn't relieve the SSA of their responsibility. Quote HistoryQuoted: I've given the Social Security Administration $300k with the understanding that they would give it back to me at the end of my productive work years. The fact that some fuckhead stole it from the SSA doesn't relieve the SSA of their responsibility. Quoted: Really can’t understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:05:22 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know....and last year it went up 8.7%. Doom! It (Social Security) should have gone up 30-40%. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:05:58 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do I get all of the money I paid in back? If not, then fuck off. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:06:15 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've given the Social Security Administration $300k with the understanding that they would give it back to me at the end of my productive work years. The fact that some fuckhead stole it from the SSA doesn't relieve the SSA of their responsibility. The problem is that people expect to collect far in excess of what they paid in (even corrected for inflation). They should make it so you get back what you paid in. (Corrected for inflation). Simple and effective. Run out of money? Learn to live off of the land, or family. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:07:24 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It (Social Security) should have gone up 30-40%. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know....and last year it went up 8.7%. Doom! It (Social Security) should have gone up 30-40%. Agreed....but getting some of it payed back is better than nothing. And the all the kids here claim we are the bad guys.  How dare we collect some of the money we paid into our Social Security accounts. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:09:51 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've given the Social Security Administration $300k with the understanding that they would give it back to me at the end of my productive work years. The fact that some fuckhead stole it from the SSA doesn't relieve the SSA of their responsibility. Quoted: Really can’t understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. Yup. Politicians are fucking lying bastards. An inherent problem with government run welfare programs. SSA isn’t paying any of your money back. Current tax payers are. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:18:25 AM EST
[#41]
I had a response, but why even bother typing it when the concept of this thread is so ludicrously dumb.
Go look at Greece and the austerity ensures for some concept of that really happens when a country can’t pay their debt. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:20:35 AM EST
[#42]
Do you really think ending SS would end any deficit spending?
Hell, its gone now. What they should base SS benefits is BMI index and credit score. 30 or higher BMI and anyone below 700 gets denied. If you're fat and broke than fuck off. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:22:15 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... You want to see guillotines rolled out? That's how. Now this is a workable solution to SS insolvency! |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:22:36 AM EST
[#44]
I'd like to know how much of SSI is going to people that never paid in.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:26:45 AM EST
[#45]
You are aware that every citizen paid dearly over the course of their careers and their employer's had to provide matching money to create and fund this retirement system?
The government could just confiscate everyone's 401k to eliminate the national debt under your thought process. How would you like that option? The truth is the Democrats, and the Republicans freely spent every penny of the SS fund when there was a surplus available, now they want to cut benefits, increase retirement age and otherwise screw the American people because of their fraudulent behavior. Congress has never been able to control wasteful spending, every Representative wanted to put their name on some "project". This has been our nations curse. The Chamber of Commerce wants small business to get government grants, the Socialist's think people should get free food, free medical and free higher education without having to work like the rest of America. The American economy can't support either and all of it is forbidden by the Constitution which clearly outlines what the federal government can fund, i.e., post roads (infrastructure), military expenditures, a court system and criminal justice. Instead of having a simple, lean, limited government, we are now wasting trillions of dollars on counterproductive and wasteful initiatives. Taxpayers shouldn't have to support any of the things outside of the clearly limited Constitutional necessities, but we are so far down this road we can't turn back. IMO, every American should have a check list on their tax returns on how they want their personal contribution spent. It would only take one year to gut most of our government's waste, fraud and abuse. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:26:55 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to know how much of SSI is going to people that never paid in. Not as much as you may think. Excluding dependents of people who paid into SS, there aren’t many. Who can collect SS |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:29:59 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Politicians are fucking lying bastards. An inherent problem with government run welfare programs. SSA isn’t paying any of your money back. Current tax payers are. Nobody pays into welfare to earn a check. There's a difference, but GD likes to pretend it's the same thing. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:37:41 AM EST
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I really hope you younger people can get rid of SS; change the direction of government growth.
Getting rid of a government program like this would be a first. Might as well get rid of all the programs that came after SS too. First in, last out sort of thing. Start with a clean slate. Oh, and all the government workers associated with the programs. They can go too. It would be worth the sacrifice to see this happen, but it won't as we are going full speed ahead in the opposite direction. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:41:42 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. They are stealing. Cut BOTH Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cut EBT instead. At least SS recipients worked and paid taxes for years. Nope. They are stealing. Cut BOTH I don't see how Social Security is stealing, other than stealing from the people who paid into it all their lives. It's a crappy retirement plan. People paid into it via their paycheck and extra from their employers. Hard to call it stealing IMO when you're required to pay into it and the government set the rules. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 10:43:29 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody pays into welfare to earn a check. There's a difference, but GD likes to pretend it's the same thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yup. Politicians are fucking lying bastards. An inherent problem with government run welfare programs. SSA isn’t paying any of your money back. Current tax payers are. Nobody pays into welfare to earn a check. There's a difference, but GD likes to pretend it's the same thing. So unemployment isn’t welfare? |
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