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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:08:27 PM EDT
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Weaver feels right, but don't listen to me. I have a perfectly good AR15 but I use a shotgun with buckshot for home defense. That shows that you "should" be listened to as you are intelligent. 
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I shoot isos for handgun, and also practice it for rifle and shotgun too due to military training in body armor. But have also used weaver for all 3 due to that is used at Front Sight with their reasoning being you can use one stance for all types of firearms. They do have a point, especially for those that aren't able to put in thousands of rounds for practice. Any thoughts on which to use for long guns? |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:10:35 PM EDT
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Any time I'm stationary or moving backwards, Isosceles.
For some reason, Weaver feels more comfortable when I move forward. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:11:45 PM EDT
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1935 GI style, bent down, arched over one handed from the hip. Do you drive your rifles too? 
http://i.imgur.com/ssf4ozq.jpg Thats called the modified Costa. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:12:16 PM EDT
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Center Axis Relock!
But in reality, isosceles. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:13:58 PM EDT
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Old enough to to not care what you think of how I express an opinion. But back to topic, in truth I don't do a lot of stationary shooting because I shoot mostly IPSec/3GN I don't notice but I'm pretty sure I shoot iso Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISO ftmfw it's what I started shooting and it works well for me. How old are you? Old enough to to not care what you think of how I express an opinion. But back to topic, in truth I don't do a lot of stationary shooting because I shoot mostly IPSec/3GN I don't notice but I'm pretty sure I shoot iso Go have a chat with Sergeant Hulka, bro. I was just curious as to when you were trained. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:14:52 PM EDT
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Unfortunately the name's not nearly as accurate as I'd like...I always felt the "need for speed". 
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Pretty obvious which guys in this thread actually shoot on the move, have taken tactical shooting courses, or shoot competitively for accuracy and time. To all you Weaver stance shooters...please, please, please consider switching over to the isosceles stance. Especially if you use a handgun for self defense. Virtually no one teaches the Weaver stance anymore...for very good reasons. Post combined with screen name.....
Unfortunately the name's not nearly as accurate as I'd like...I always felt the "need for speed".
Delta Mike checking in. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:15:56 PM EDT
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I don't shoot competition and don't practice much so I don't worry much about it. If you have ever played sports one will take what I call a natural athletic stance that allows one to be prepared for anything. When I take a stance that comes naturally it looks more like weaver. ymmv
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:18:53 PM EDT
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Depends, are you pleasure shooting or shooting to save your life?
There is a difference you know. And each has their place,..........I shoot Isosceles, because my life is on the line in a very "real" sense not in a "gaming" sense. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:20:39 PM EDT
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It's amazing all these guys clinging to their Weaver stance ever managed to learn how to use cell phones and computers.
Guys...isosceles will improve your accuracy and speed while shooting on the move. It will also allow you to pivot from the waist without losing your balance while engaging targets that are spread out. If you're right handed try standing up right now, assume your Weaver stance, and attempt to engage a target to your far left. Your legs will end up anchored in place and your ability to move quickly from this position is nearly impossible. Now try pivoting with the isosceles stance. It's dramatically better for any type of pistol shooting you can think of. The benefits to your grip and upper body positioning are even more beneficial when using the isosceles stance. Try it...
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:22:06 PM EDT
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It's amazing all these guys clinging to their Weaver stance ever managed to learn how to use cell phones and computers.
Guys...isosceles will improve your accuracy and speed while shooting on the move. It will also allow you to pivot from the waist without losing your balance while engaging targets that are spread out. If you're right handed try standing up right now, assume your Weaver stance, and attempt to engage a target to your far left. Your legs will end up anchored in place and your ability to move quickly from this position is nearly impossible. Now try pivoting with the isosceles stance. It's dramatically better for any type of pistol shooting you can think of. The benefits to your grip and upper body positioning are even more beneficial when using the isosceles stance. Try it... Do you even muscle memory, bro? Change isn't that easy. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:22:07 PM EDT
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Gangsta Enhanced Kills shot bitches... Kills shot |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:27:07 PM EDT
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What ever the situation calls for, each situation is different and if you put yourself in a "box" you can end up dead.
At the range, I prefer isosceles. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:29:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's amazing all these guys clinging to their Weaver stance ever managed to learn how to use cell phones and computers. Guys...isosceles will improve your accuracy and speed while shooting on the move. It will also allow you to pivot from the waist without losing your balance while engaging targets that are spread out. If you're right handed try standing up right now, assume your Weaver stance, and attempt to engage a target to your far left. Your legs will end up anchored in place and your ability to move quickly from this position is nearly impossible. Now try pivoting with the isosceles stance. It's dramatically better for any type of pistol shooting you can think of. The benefits to your grip and upper body positioning are even more beneficial when using the isosceles stance. Try it... |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:30:53 PM EDT
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I am right handed, but left eye dominant. Weaver works better for me.
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:31:59 PM EDT
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99% of the time, ISO.
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:33:54 PM EDT
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I wear body armor more often than not so when I shoot rifle, I'm as squared up as possible to the target
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:38:48 PM EDT
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Do you even muscle memory, bro? Change isn't that easy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's amazing all these guys clinging to their Weaver stance ever managed to learn how to use cell phones and computers.
Guys...isosceles will improve your accuracy and speed while shooting on the move. It will also allow you to pivot from the waist without losing your balance while engaging targets that are spread out. If you're right handed try standing up right now, assume your Weaver stance, and attempt to engage a target to your far left. Your legs will end up anchored in place and your ability to move quickly from this position is nearly impossible. Now try pivoting with the isosceles stance. It's dramatically better for any type of pistol shooting you can think of. The benefits to your grip and upper body positioning are even more beneficial when using the isosceles stance. Try it... Do you even muscle memory, bro? Change isn't that easy. I can't emphasize enough how much better your pistol shooting will be if you do end up making the switch. Please give it a fair shake this summer. Especially if you feel your pistol shooting has plateaued and you aren't continuing to steadily improve with regards to speed and accuracy. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:46:44 PM EDT
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I can't emphasize enough how much better your pistol shooting will be if you do end up making the switch. Please give it a fair shake this summer. Especially if you feel your pistol shooting has plateaued and you aren't continuing to steadily improve with regards to speed and accuracy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's amazing all these guys clinging to their Weaver stance ever managed to learn how to use cell phones and computers.
Guys...isosceles will improve your accuracy and speed while shooting on the move. It will also allow you to pivot from the waist without losing your balance while engaging targets that are spread out. If you're right handed try standing up right now, assume your Weaver stance, and attempt to engage a target to your far left. Your legs will end up anchored in place and your ability to move quickly from this position is nearly impossible. Now try pivoting with the isosceles stance. It's dramatically better for any type of pistol shooting you can think of. The benefits to your grip and upper body positioning are even more beneficial when using the isosceles stance. Try it... Do you even muscle memory, bro? Change isn't that easy. I can't emphasize enough how much better your pistol shooting will be if you do end up making the switch. Please give it a fair shake this summer. Especially if you feel your pistol shooting has plateaued and you aren't continuing to steadily improve with regards to speed and accuracy. Trust me...I have tried. Every time I go shoot(which is several times a week since I have a range in my backyard), I focus on Isosceles. Once I speed up or get on the move....Weaver automatically kicks in. Believe me, I see the superiority of Isosceles. That's why I trained my son and everyone else I introduce to shooting with Isosceles. All I'm saying is old habits die hard. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:49:38 PM EDT
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I'm weaver-very-close-to-isosceles...just a bit "off" from it.
I can't do 100% either. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 10:59:58 PM EDT
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I don't think there are lot of people still advocating weaver anymore. I know old fart ops who still shoot weaver because they never had any meow modern training. Does it matter, probably not 
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:03:38 PM EDT
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Trust me...I have tried. Every time I go shoot(which is several times a week since I have a range in my backyard), I focus on Isosceles. Once I speed up or get on the move....Weaver automatically kicks in. Believe me, I see the superiority of Isosceles. That's why I trained my son and everyone else I introduce to shooting with Isosceles. All I'm saying is old habits die hard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't emphasize enough how much better your pistol shooting will be if you do end up making the switch. Please give it a fair shake this summer. Especially if you feel your pistol shooting has plateaued and you aren't continuing to steadily improve with regards to speed and accuracy. Trust me...I have tried. Every time I go shoot(which is several times a week since I have a range in my backyard), I focus on Isosceles. Once I speed up or get on the move....Weaver automatically kicks in. Believe me, I see the superiority of Isosceles. That's why I trained my son and everyone else I introduce to shooting with Isosceles. All I'm saying is old habits die hard. Got it.
It's great that you get the opportunity to shoot so often...and it sounds like you have your shit sorted pretty well...
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:08:29 PM EDT
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I use a modisoweaver stance, usually while bursting the hell off the "x"
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:14:46 PM EDT
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Weaver sucks for shooting requiring movement. It's based on the boxing stance after all and we all know boxing is a very static sport.
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:18:15 PM EDT
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Got it.
It's great that you get the opportunity to shoot so often...and it sounds like you have your shit sorted pretty well...
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I can't emphasize enough how much better your pistol shooting will be if you do end up making the switch. Please give it a fair shake this summer. Especially if you feel your pistol shooting has plateaued and you aren't continuing to steadily improve with regards to speed and accuracy. Trust me...I have tried. Every time I go shoot(which is several times a week since I have a range in my backyard), I focus on Isosceles. Once I speed up or get on the move....Weaver automatically kicks in. Believe me, I see the superiority of Isosceles. That's why I trained my son and everyone else I introduce to shooting with Isosceles. All I'm saying is old habits die hard. Got it.
It's great that you get the opportunity to shoot so often...and it sounds like you have your shit sorted pretty well...
I wouldn't go as far as to think I have my shit sorted pretty well. Though, I would like to think I can take at least one or two of "them" before "they" get me. I like to think that anyway. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:21:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:43:06 PM EDT
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Go have a chat with Sergeant Hulka, bro. I was just curious as to when you were trained. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISO ftmfw it's what I started shooting and it works well for me. How old are you? Old enough to to not care what you think of how I express an opinion. But back to topic, in truth I don't do a lot of stationary shooting because I shoot mostly IPSec/3GN I don't notice but I'm pretty sure I shoot iso Go have a chat with Sergeant Hulka, bro. I was just curious as to when you were trained. If that's the case then I do sincerely apologize, I misunderstood your question as a jab at me. The problem with speaking over the Internet. I am 26 and have taken several classes with Paul Howe and he teaches isosceles. Friggin internet doesn't convey context. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:47:25 PM EDT
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If that's the case then I do sincerely apologize, I misunderstood your question as a jab at me. The problem with speaking over the Internet. I am 26 and have taken several classes with Paul Howe and he teaches isosceles. Friggin internet doesn't convey context. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ISO ftmfw it's what I started shooting and it works well for me. How old are you? Old enough to to not care what you think of how I express an opinion. But back to topic, in truth I don't do a lot of stationary shooting because I shoot mostly IPSec/3GN I don't notice but I'm pretty sure I shoot iso Go have a chat with Sergeant Hulka, bro. I was just curious as to when you were trained. If that's the case then I do sincerely apologize, I misunderstood your question as a jab at me. The problem with speaking over the Internet. I am 26 and have taken several classes with Paul Howe and he teaches isosceles. Friggin internet doesn't convey context. It's understandable. It wasn't a jab. I'm 40 and learned Weaver in the Marines. |
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:57:03 PM EDT
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Some of us were trained that way and having been shooting that way for many years. Imagine if 20 years from now there is some new fangled stance that goes against Isosceles. You may see things differently then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Weaver is still a thing?
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:57:25 PM EDT
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one handed with off hand on my hip like errol flynn.
or modified isocelese similar to burkette teaches. when it comes down to it whatever works is what ill use. what im doing now may change tomorrow if i find something better.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 12:06:55 AM EDT
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OK modified isosceles shooters -
Is modified isosceles the same as modified weaver because you were trained isosceles, or is modified weaver the same as modified isosceles because we were trained weaver, or is the modified isosceles stance totally different than the modified weaver stance??? Honest question because I only know weaver, modified weaver, and "full" isosceles.... |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 12:07:53 AM EDT
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Modified isocolese.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 12:10:07 AM EDT
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OK modified isosceles shooters -Is modified isosceles the same as modified weaver because you were trained isosceles, or is modified weaver the same as modified isosceles because we were trained weaver, or is the modified isosceles stance totally different than the modified weaver stance??? Yes. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 7:41:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK modified isosceles shooters -Is modified isosceles the same as modified weaver because you were trained isosceles, or is modified weaver the same as modified isosceles because we were trained weaver, or is the modified isosceles stance totally different than the modified weaver stance??? Honest question because I only know weaver, modified weaver, and "full" isosceles.... Either "modified" stance is kind of a mix of both IMO. I just lean towards "modified isosceles" because I incorporate more of the iso stance then I do weaver. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 7:49:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2015 7:50:13 AM EDT
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Neither.
Bullseye. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 8:21:51 AM EDT
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modified iso.
and that is code for shoulders square but right foot is back a bit from center. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 8:24:11 AM EDT
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I teach both. Different situation, different tactics.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 8:30:30 AM EDT
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Whatever it takes to get my left dominate eye on the sights since I'm right handed.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 8:32:17 AM EDT
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Pretty obvious which guys in this thread actually shoot on the move, have taken tactical shooting courses, or shoot competitively for accuracy and time. To all you Weaver stance shooters...please, please, please consider switching over to the isosceles stance. Especially if you use a handgun for self defense. Virtually no one teaches the Weaver stance anymore...for very good reasons. Well, we can't all be Tier 1 operators. Yeah, not with that attitude |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 8:41:05 AM EDT
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If I'm wearing armor, I want to present a lot of plate to whoever's shooting at me. If I'm not wearing armor, I want to be as small a target as possible.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 8:44:19 AM EDT
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Somewhere between the two. I find true isosceles uncomfortable as fuck.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 12:51:53 PM EDT
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I find true isosceles uncomfortable as fuck. +1 |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 12:57:56 PM EDT
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I shoot much better isosceles.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 1:00:29 PM EDT
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Modern Isosceles with the ability to go more Weaver-like for clearing certain angles.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 1:02:33 PM EDT
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I tagged ISO but when the pressure's on, I keep reverting to Weaver!
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Posted: 4/3/2015 1:03:22 PM EDT
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whichever is comfortable at the time....fucking hit the target is all that is required.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 1:04:44 PM EDT
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Modified Isosceles Wouldn't that BE . . . Weaver?
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Posted: 4/3/2015 1:06:29 PM EDT
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Some of us were trained that way and having been shooting that way for many years. Imagine if 20 years from now there is some new fangled stance that goes against Isosceles. You may see things differently then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Weaver is still a thing? Some of us were trained that way and having been shooting that way for many years. Imagine if 20 years from now there is some new fangled stance that goes against Isosceles. You may see things differently then. The pendulum of vogue will swing back towards Weaver, but it will be re-branded as something else. This has already happened, and will happen again. |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 1:14:07 PM EDT
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Equilateral FTW! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile T-Rex arms? |
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