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Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:16:47 PM EDT
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A copy of an ID would be stupidly easy to Photoshop.
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It means proving your identity by uploading a readable and clear copy of your photo ID (driver's license, State ID card, passport) or other related material. By verifying your information you are showing members you are real and serious about finding a match or friends. We do not disclose, sell or rent any personal, identifiable information to any third party organizations. All information provided is kept confidential.
A copy of an ID would be stupidly easy to Photoshop.
Yep that is not going to help him.

Poor Guy, but let's be serious he should have known better.

If I was him I wouldn't be having relations with any woman without a background check.
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Their terms and conditions have no merit when it comes to the charges and laws of the state.

Example: 16 year old TX girl looks older for her age with make-up, non kid style clothes, whatever. She goes to a bar and the bartender doesn't ask for ID and just serves her alcohol. The 16 year old girl has a drink in her hand and a 23 year old guy comes up and hits on her thinking that she is 21 or over because she has a drink in her hand. They get intoxicated and hook up at his place. He just had a sexual relationship with a minor who cannot consent to sex and committed a crime.
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You are correct as the old law is written. However, the new law as written by the FBI says that intent is important to a prosecution. Since Mrs. Clinton didn’t intend to sell classified intel, she is innocent.

So, the TOS would support his intent to have a legal adult partner.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:21:56 PM EDT
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Of course it's a setup. They found someone who could pass for 18, and honey trapped him.

Show me the man, and I'll find you the crime.
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Dan Bongino
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:23:10 PM EDT
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So the Dems are trafficking child sex workers?  I'm just shook to my core.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:23:18 PM EDT
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That's incredibly naïve to think that innocence provides any protection at all when dealing with truly powerful people.

They could have a dead hooker in your trunk, your bloody fingerprints all over the knife, and half a kilo of coke in your glove box.  All they'd have to do is want to.
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Hence why I said "cover your ass" like have evidence, a dead-man's switch and other "gotcha's." Even if NOT true, posting a profile on a Sugar Daddy website is beyond stupid given that you've pissed off the real Uncle Sugar. Best to not have a digital footprint on anything outside his advocacy. Dumb, dumb, dumb......

Best to take a monthly trip to Vegas and the Bunny Ranch......
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:23:40 PM EDT
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Oh boy
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:23:50 PM EDT
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There's no winning. We don't live in a country where we have any say whatsoever in how we're ruled.

And if you dare actually manage score a slight victory against the grotesque machine that rules us, you will be utterly destroyed.
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Let's be honest, he should have known better.

Even if I wasn't under the gun I wouldn't hook up with some random hoe on the internet.

Sucks that all the good he has done is gonna be hindered because of this.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:24:12 PM EDT
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So lets this straight.   He seeks out a whore (doing it for money)

Proceeds to tell her that he is "a big deal" in bragging....

Then gets surprised that she runs to tattle & likely cash in
on all the interviews and  bs that comes with notoriety these days...
He should've taken note of Trump n stormy daniels.

Anonymous dude paying for ass would've been fine. Its not like 16yo hooker
was sitting around watching the news to recognize him.

He let the attention go his head.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:24:51 PM EDT
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That's not how it works.  In the real world, in many cases, your intent makes no difference if your guilty of a crime, only the fact you technically committed the crime. Guy my dad knew got caught screwing a 15 year old, when he was 21.

Went to court.

Judge.. did you know she was underage ?
Guy....... hell no. She said she was 21, I met her in a bar that you had to be 21 to get into, she showed my a license that showed her as 21.
Judge..  is that true miss?
Girl........yes. I lied to him about my age,  I wanted to have sex with him, I used a fake id to get into the bar, and showed him the fake id as he didn't believe I was 21, said I looked young to him.
Judge.. you have the fake I'd?
Girl........yes, here it is.
Judge....wow, this is high quality, where did you get it ?
Girl........at the dmv, I used my older sisters birth certificate to get it, it's a real gov issues id. I love him, and don't want him to go to jail, my mother's is the one pushing this .
Judge.......well, I hate to do this Mr xxx, but even though she lied and used fake identification, the law only needs proof a 21 year old had sex with a underaged girl. There is no doubt you had sex with her, your belief she was of legal age, and her fraud has no bearing, only the fact you did have sex with her matters. Your going to prison.
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Why are they referring to the girl as 'the victim?'  Sounds like he's the victim of fraud on her part
That's not how it works.  In the real world, in many cases, your intent makes no difference if your guilty of a crime, only the fact you technically committed the crime. Guy my dad knew got caught screwing a 15 year old, when he was 21.

Went to court.

Judge.. did you know she was underage ?
Guy....... hell no. She said she was 21, I met her in a bar that you had to be 21 to get into, she showed my a license that showed her as 21.
Judge..  is that true miss?
Girl........yes. I lied to him about my age,  I wanted to have sex with him, I used a fake id to get into the bar, and showed him the fake id as he didn't believe I was 21, said I looked young to him.
Judge.. you have the fake I'd?
Girl........yes, here it is.
Judge....wow, this is high quality, where did you get it ?
Girl........at the dmv, I used my older sisters birth certificate to get it, it's a real gov issues id. I love him, and don't want him to go to jail, my mother's is the one pushing this .
Judge.......well, I hate to do this Mr xxx, but even though she lied and used fake identification, the law only needs proof a 21 year old had sex with a underaged girl. There is no doubt you had sex with her, your belief she was of legal age, and her fraud has no bearing, only the fact you did have sex with her matters. Your going to prison.
Got it at the DMV?  The Judge and someone at the DMV needs to go to Prison.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:29:07 PM EDT
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Got it at the DMV?  The Judge and someone at the DMV needs to go to Prison.
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Why are they referring to the girl as 'the victim?'  Sounds like he's the victim of fraud on her part
That's not how it works.  In the real world, in many cases, your intent makes no difference if your guilty of a crime, only the fact you technically committed the crime. Guy my dad knew got caught screwing a 15 year old, when he was 21.

Went to court.

Judge.. did you know she was underage ?
Guy....... hell no. She said she was 21, I met her in a bar that you had to be 21 to get into, she showed my a license that showed her as 21.
Judge..  is that true miss?
Girl........yes. I lied to him about my age,  I wanted to have sex with him, I used a fake id to get into the bar, and showed him the fake id as he didn't believe I was 21, said I looked young to him.
Judge.. you have the fake I'd?
Girl........yes, here it is.
Judge....wow, this is high quality, where did you get it ?
Girl........at the dmv, I used my older sisters birth certificate to get it, it's a real gov issues id. I love him, and don't want him to go to jail, my mother's is the one pushing this .
Judge.......well, I hate to do this Mr xxx, but even though she lied and used fake identification, the law only needs proof a 21 year old had sex with a underaged girl. There is no doubt you had sex with her, your belief she was of legal age, and her fraud has no bearing, only the fact you did have sex with her matters. Your going to prison.
Got it at the DMV?  The Judge and someone at the DMV needs to go to Prison.
The judge doesn't make the law. What do the DMV folks have to do with it? They don't write the regulations either? Getting a fake ID from the secretary of state was very common when I was growing up. It might be tougher now, but back in the day there wasn't much you could do to stop it.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:30:22 PM EDT
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You are correct as the old law is written. However, the new law as written by the FBI says that intent is important to a prosecution. Since Mrs. Clinton didn’t intend to sell classified intel, she is innocent.

So, the TOS would support his intent to have a legal adult partner.
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What is state vs. federal law
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:32:44 PM EDT
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Lets not miss the big take away here.

Talk to your sons.  Explain how statutory rape laws work.  Explain that it is often strict liability.  Only two questions - what was her age, and did they have sex?  The age is an objectively verifiable fact for the court.  Whether they had sex or not can be a swearing contest.  A swearing contest the boy often loses.

Counsel them not to hang around with under aged girls, don't buy or give them alcohol/drugs, and don't have sex with girls that are potentially under age unless you are absolutely positive of their age.  Absolutely positive.  As in, ready to bet 5 to 10 years of their life plus a sex offender label.  That type of certainty.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:36:24 PM EDT
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Lets not miss the big take away here.

Talk to your sons.  Explain how statutory rape laws work.  Explain that it is often strict liability.  Only two questions - what was her age, and did they have sex?  The age is an objectively verifiable fact for the court.  Whether they had sex or not can be a swearing contest.  A swearing contest the boy often loses.

Counsel them not to hang around with under aged girls, don't buy or give them alcohol/drugs, and don't have sex with girls that are potentially under age unless you are absolutely positive of their age.  Absolutely positive.  As in, ready to bet 5 to 10 years of their life plus a sex offender label.  That type of certainty.
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All fine points.

Ol Cody should have been trolling cougar sites.
Guy took crime law 101 at UT law
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:36:32 PM EDT
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My guess is she got arrested for prostitution.  She gave them his name to get a break.  Suddenly she's not an underage whore but a victim.
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Your sarcasm meter needs calibration.

I was trying to point out the disparity in application of the law for special protected classes  vs everyday joes.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:40:06 PM EDT
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Yep that is not going to help him.

Poor Guy, but let be serious he should have known better.

If I was him I wouldn't be having relations with any woman without a background check.
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It means proving your identity by uploading a readable and clear copy of your photo ID (driver's license, State ID card, passport) or other related material. By verifying your information you are showing members you are real and serious about finding a match or friends. We do not disclose, sell or rent any personal, identifiable information to any third party organizations. All information provided is kept confidential.
A copy of an ID would be stupidly easy to Photoshop.
Yep that is not going to help him.

Poor Guy, but let be serious he should have known better.

If I was him I wouldn't be having relations with any woman without a background check.
Fify
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:41:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:43:39 PM EDT
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What is it we always say about “inviting the man into your life”
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:43:47 PM EDT
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Enticing a minor and possession of child porn.

He is fucked.
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Dudes done for
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:46:09 PM EDT
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I don't see how it can be a set up when you go to a web site, meet a chick, get her agree to do sex acts for a certain dollar amount and then carry out the deed.
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Whether it was or wasn’t a set up, it was a damn fool move on his part. Sometimes, stupidity hurts.
I don't see how it can be a set up when you go to a web site, meet a chick, get her agree to do sex acts for a certain dollar amount and then carry out the deed.
What if we find it was her who initiated all of it? Women can seek men on that website.

Eta I realize he's still in a boatload of trouble but it still
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:49:48 PM EDT
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I don't see how it can be a set up when you go to a web site, meet a chick, get her agree to do sex acts for a certain dollar amount and then carry out the deed.
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Whether it was or wasn’t a set up, it was a damn fool move on his part. Sometimes, stupidity hurts.
I don't see how it can be a set up when you go to a web site, meet a chick, get her agree to do sex acts for a certain dollar amount and then carry out the deed.
Unless the website is an "asset".
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:50:44 PM EDT
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What if we find it was her who initiated all of it? Women can seek men on that website.

Eta I realize he's still in a boatload of trouble but it still
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Whether it was or wasn’t a set up, it was a damn fool move on his part. Sometimes, stupidity hurts.
I don't see how it can be a set up when you go to a web site, meet a chick, get her agree to do sex acts for a certain dollar amount and then carry out the deed.
What if we find it was her who initiated all of it? Women can seek men on that website.

Eta I realize he's still in a boatload of trouble but it still
Don't know how it works but if women can initiate then it would lean even more towards a set up. I think he would still likely be convicted by most juries, but honestly this would be a reasonable use for jury nullification.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:51:03 PM EDT
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If you're going to pick a fight with the left, you'd better have 24/7 video feed of your activities and take regular salt peter supplements.
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If you're going to pick a fight with the left, you'd better have 24/7 video feed of your activities and take regular salt peter supplements.
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That's the lesson to be learned from this.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:54:11 PM EDT
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So I guess I need to panic buy a Ghost Gunner 2 before it's too late?
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:56:19 PM EDT
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His sugardaddy screen name, sanjuro, is a movie/story

The description:
A group of idealistic young men, determined to clean up the corruption in their town, are aided by a scruffy, cynical samurai who does not at all fit their concept of a noble warrior.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 1:57:33 PM EDT
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His sugardaddy screen name, sanjuro, is a movie/story

The description:
A group of idealistic young men, determined to clean up the corruption in their town, are aided by a scruffy, cynical samurai who does not at all fit their concept of a noble warrior.
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ironic is ironic
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:00:02 PM EDT
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I don't know what the laws are here, but this same kind of thing sort of happened to a guy in my platoon back in '02.

He went to a strip club and he got himself a stripper girlfriend.  He was one of those dumbfucks that never listens to anyone and make all the obvious mistakes but yet can't stop complaining about them.  Yet, at work, he was a complete follower.

Well the MPs along with some Fayetteville PD came and rounded him up from the company area one day.  He came back late in the night and we got the whole story and he had to participate in the next 1 million safety briefings.

It turns out his stripper girlfriend was an underage runaway.....16 I think.  Of course he was an idiot and admitted to everything and didn't have a lawyer.  It turns out though that he didn't commit a crime because of the circumstances in which he met her----as a stripper.  She was stripping at Sharky's/House of Dolls/Pure Platinum (whatever the fuck the name was, it changed like every 6 months.  Probably after every bust) with a fake ID so I guess in the eyes of the law he was good to assume she was not a minor.

He still got cuffed and detained for over 8 hours.
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During a forensic interview with the Center with Child Protection on Aug. 27, the victim told counselors she met Wilson through the website, SugarDaddyMeet.com. Court documents show Wilson used the profile, "Sanjuro," and told the victim that he was a "big deal." During the conversation, he also identified himself as "Cody Wilson." Police said the two exchanged cell phone numbers and continued their conversations using the Apple iMessage service on her phone.

The victim told police that on Aug. 15, she and Wilson met in person in the parking lot of Bennu Coffee on 515 South Congress Ave. Court documents show Wilson showed up in a black Ford Edge four door sports utility vehicle with a license plate that matches one registered to Wilson's business, Defense Distributed. Court documents show there was surveillance video of this meeting.

The victim then told police that Wilson took her to the Archer Hotel at 3121 Palm Way. Surveillance cameras captured the two using the valet service, in the lobby and in the elevator.

The victim also said Wilson took her to room 718 where he allegedly sexually assaulted her. Afterwards, she said he paid her $500.

He is in deep doodoo.
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"Assaulted" or paid for services?
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I don't care. He's a bigger asset to my people out of prison than in. So I want him out of prison, regardless of any allegations by the other side.

My people, right or wrong.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:03:54 PM EDT
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Enticing a minor and possession of child porn.

He is fucked.
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Did she post naked pics online?

If so she is guilty as well along with the website.

Might not beat the charge, but their might be a good civil suit against the website.

Doubt the website has much capital, but he might can shut him down.

What I think will happen is the gov gives him a sweet deal to make the charges go away if he shuts down his website.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:04:20 PM EDT
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when did intent get removed from the legal system?
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Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:10:38 PM EDT
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It always amazes me when people that seem so intelligent do something profoundly stupid.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:11:21 PM EDT
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After you have sex with your wife, she asks for money to go to the mall, that's legal.

After you have sex with your girlfriend, she asks for money to go to the mall, that's legal.

After you have sex with some girl at the bar, she asks for cab fare, that's prostituting.

BTW, it's called Survival Sex with liberals do it.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:11:24 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter who initiated it.

There is seemingly no end to the 16 year olds that would line up to have sex with me for money.  Even if they came to my front door uninvited.  Out of the blue.  Accompanied by a Catholic Priest, a Baptist Minister, and a Voodoo practitioner of high regard.  All of whom swore to her being of age.

Again, only two basic questions.  What was her age and did you engage in a sexual act.

The basic law in most states (and in Texas) is that it is my responsibility to know she is of age.  Not think, not hope, not believe, not understand.  Know or face the consequences.  Hence the term "statutory" rape.  You are guilty even with consent, even if she lied, even if everyone would think she was of age.

Since this occurred on a sugar daddy web site - younger women having sex with typically older guys in exchange for financial compensation - WTF was this idiot thinking?  He needs to be extra careful on those sites.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:12:27 PM EDT
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We do not know if the direct exchange of sex for money was agreed to, or if it was spring by her after the fact, or if it was directly for the sex. For all we know It could have been spending money for his new sugar girl. the website was for sugardaddies, and the complaint says the text exchange involved his real name and disclosure of the contraversy surrounding him. Why would he disclose that to a one time prostitution solicitation.

Although he is not been charged for solicitation, so that's moot.

As far as it being able to be a set up. I think what people are getting at is the possibility of him being lied to regarding her age (Even going so far as to show a convincing fake id) for the express purpose by the victim or parties influencing the victim, to engage wilson in sex acts with a minor with the intention of imeadiately reporting it to authorities after the fact.

Not that it would legally matter for Wilson if such a thing had occurred.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:14:58 PM EDT
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I know what the charge is, but the wording is bullshit.

Like he lured her up there and then attacked her.

Sure, get him for soliciting sex from a minor.  But she was by no means "assaulted".
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:15:36 PM EDT
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Assault pussy
Pussy of man destruction
Weaponized coot-chute

Lets hear some more. I am out of ideas.
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:15:51 PM EDT
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I'm sure his buisness trust is moving to another person. He is in asset protection mode I bet.

I know I would be.
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I don't know what the laws are here, but this same kind of thing sort of happened to a guy in my platoon back in '02.

He went to a strip club and he got himself a stripper girlfriend.  He was one of those dumbfucks that never listens to anyone and make all the obvious mistakes but yet can't stop complaining about them.  Yet, at work, he was a complete follower.

Well the MPs along with some Fayetteville PD came and rounded him up from the company area one day.  He came back late in the night and we got the whole story and he had to participate in the next 1 million safety briefings.

It turns out his stripper girlfriend was an underage runaway.....16 I think.  Of course he was an idiot and admitted to everything and didn't have a lawyer.  It turns out though that he didn't commit a crime because of the circumstances in which he met her----as a stripper.  She was stripping at Sharky's/House of Dolls/Pure Platinum (whatever the fuck the name was, it changed like every 6 months.  Probably after every bust) with a fake ID so I guess in the eyes of the law he was good to assume she was not a minor.

He still got cuffed and detained for over 8 hours.
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C co 2/504?
Link Posted: 9/19/2018 2:17:22 PM EDT
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Age of consent in TX is 17. So he could lay the pipe no problem, no laws broken, etc. ( I thought she was 17?)

But if she sends his nude pics/vidies. He is now in possession of child porn due to federal law  (18 and under is a minor federally). Does this open the door for feds to also charge him with sexual assault of a minor federally?

State vs Feds on that one. Seems like a setup imo.
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Pussy has magical powers to the weak.
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Doesn't matter who initiated it.

There is seemingly no end to the 16 year olds that would line up to have sex with me for money.  Even if they came to my front door uninvited.  Out of the blue.  Accompanied by a Catholic Priest, a Baptist Minister, and a Voodoo practitioner of high regard.  All of whom swore to her being of age.

Again, only two basic questions.  What was her age and did you engage in a sexual act.

The basic law in most states (and in Texas) is that it is my responsibility to know she is of age.  Not think, not hope, not believe, not understand.  Know or face the consequences.  Hence the term "statutory" rape.  You are guilty even with consent, even if she lied, even if everyone would think she was of age.

Since this occurred on a sugar daddy web site - younger women having sex with typically older guys in exchange for financial compensation - WTF was this idiot thinking?  He needs to be extra careful on those sites.
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It would be nice if NFA branch would let you submit Form 5320.23 ("Responsible Person Questionnaire") to screen potential possessors of NFA firearms sexual partners.

Or at least open NICS up for it!
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