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Same here. No point paying Uncle Sugar the $200.00 then wait a indeterminate amount of time for them to allow me to build something I can't carry in my vehicle loaded nor take across state lines without permission with. I'd not put a "real stock" on but one of my pistol builds even if I could do it for free. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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+1 Same in PA. No point paying Uncle Sugar the $200.00 then wait a indeterminate amount of time for them to allow me to build something I can't carry in my vehicle loaded nor take across state lines without permission with. I'd not put a "real stock" on but one of my pistol builds even if I could do it for free. |
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I cobbled this one together for use around the homestead the other day.
Attached File Even if that brace with the retractable legs was not expensive I don't think I would like it. I don't like the idea of anything getting between me and the safety if you don't have the time to deploy. I've had other guns with M2 type stock legs and never really cared for them much except for the H&K 91/93 ones that fit into a groove in the receiver. Exposed legs are just waiting to hang-up on stuff. With a regular brace set to your OAL preferences it's a grab it and go proposition. It would seem to me if you wanted a shorter OAL your $400.00 would be better spent on one of those side folding buffer tubes and a KAK brace set to your OAL. BTW....The MP K2 grip makes a positive difference (for me) for a AR pistol. I've fitted-out all my AR pistols, save one, with them. |
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I cobbled this one together for use around the homestead the other day. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/DSCN6651--2--270398.JPG Even if that brace with the retractable legs was not expensive I don't think I would like it. I don't like the idea of anything getting between me and the safety if you don't have the time to deploy. I've had other guns with M2 type stock legs and never really cared for them much except for the H&K 91/93 ones that fit into a groove in the receiver. Exposed legs are just waiting to hang-up on stuff. With a regular brace set to your OAL preferences it's a grab it and go proposition. It would seem to me if you wanted a shorter OAL your $400.00 would be better spent on one of those side folding buffer tubes and a KAK brace set to your OAL. BTW....The MP K2 grip makes a positive difference (for me) for a AR pistol. I've fitted-out all my AR pistols, save one, with them. View Quote |
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I have plenty of sbr's and I know they don't count as a rifle in PA, I just don't want to use a stamped item as a trunk gun. I have a law folder on one sbr, I might get another when the mod2 tail hook comes out. Sigh, gotta pay to play lol
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No stamp? Pleb. View Quote Other than allow for a traditional stock set-up what will your Uncle Sugar approved SBR AR do that a braced AR pistol won't? Is that setup advantage enough to submit yourself to the added restrictions of owning a SBR? It's certainly your money, time, desire, to SBR a AR but it's seems almost rube-ish to SBR a AR at this point so I'd not be throwing rocks. |
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Log in to DSG and send them a copy of your credentials. It's well worth it. They had me signed up within an hour. LEO/MIL DSG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's the thing. I'm hearing the end of the month, which probably means maybe by the end of the year. I'm growing impatient. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Honestly, I just ditched it all together. It's lighter, would be more concealable if for some reason I needed it to be. It's not bad shooting without it at all.
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Honestly, I just ditched it all together. It's lighter, would be more concealable if for some reason I needed it to be. It's not bad shooting without it at all. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/252780/IMG-0914-270820.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/252780/IMG-0915-270819.JPG View Quote |
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I just ordered a couple of the SBM4 braces from Ballistic Deals. Best price I have seen for them.
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I'll just stick with the shockwave until one comes out to mimic the LWRC Ultra Compact Stock.
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Honestly, I just ditched it all together. It's lighter, would be more concealable if for some reason I needed it to be. It's not bad shooting without it at all. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/252780/IMG-0914-270820.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/252780/IMG-0915-270819.JPG |
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In addition to being light, compact, easy and fun to shoot, one of the absolute best parts of having an AR pistol is how much it pisses off the elitist SBRtard's bigly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No stamp? Pleb. I just jumped in with the SB Tac PDW. This will replace my SigBrace on Sexxy Shorty. |
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The Maxim is about the only brace I've seen that doesn't look the total ass to me.
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Can you hunt with an SBR in CO? Can you have an SBR loaded(round in chamber) in your vehicle? (spoiler: no,no) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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In addition to being light, compact, easy and fun to shoot, one of the absolute best parts of having an AR pistol is how much it pisses off the elitist SBRtard's bigly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Doesn't piss me off, most look stupid. Thing is eventually with how their pushing the definintion to skirt the law, a new opinion will be made reversing their original decision and they will be illegal. I see the cross state lines, but really that's just trying to make a point for justification of spending twice as much for a stamp. View Quote |
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Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol
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Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol View Quote Crossing state lines. The ability to legally carry loaded in the vehicle exc. It's been pointed out in this thread, as well as many others, ad nauseam. |
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Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol View Quote Math |
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The PDW stock that isn't a brace is nearly the same cost, plus $200 for the stamp. The stamp doesn't come with a stock, you still have to buy that. Lol Math View Quote But honestly is it really about $200.00? Many go through that in ammo in a few range sessions, or when buying a new rail. |
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Why people cant get it through their heads that its not so much about the money as it is the regulations attached to an sbr is beyond me. Crossing state lines. The ability to legally carry loaded in the vehicle exc. It's been pointed out in this thread, as well as many others, ad nauseam. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol Crossing state lines. The ability to legally carry loaded in the vehicle exc. It's been pointed out in this thread, as well as many others, ad nauseam. |
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I carry an AR pistol. I don't carry it everywhere, but I do carry it.
I have a special backpack that makes it very fast and easy to deploy. If I ever have to shoot someone, the cops will not be asking me about my choice of weapons, and I will not be providing a comment beyond: "I was attacked. I feared for my life, and was forced to take action. I look forward to cooperating with your investigation after I've had an opportunity to speak with my Attorney." Same thing you say no matter what weapon was used. Let your Lawyer worry about how to explain that you carry an AR in your vehicle for the same reason the cops do. This issue is kinda like owning a gun, really. If you don't want a pistol/brace. Don't buy one. |
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So exactly how many loaded weapons can you legally carry in your vehicle? Seriously, you carry a pistol, on you, then you keep a loaded AR pistol as well? I know your not carrying you AR pistol concealed. I don't know about laws elsewhere, but here having a loaded weapon without having a concealed permit is a big no, and even technically it's illegal to not have it on your person. While we're at it, even the shortest SBR isn't half as easy to maneuver as a pistol in a vehicle. Yes I have SBR's, I even have a pistol lower, honestly I keep a 16" in a locked rifle vault in my vehicle, and a loaded pistol via my CCW. I would like to see someone explaining to authorities why they have a loaded AR pistol, and most likely a pistol, let alone god forbid actually having to use it and not being "painted" as some sort of psycho looking for a fight. |
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How so? I constantly see people saying you can keep a loaded AR pistol in a car, well true to some extent, but you have to have a concealed permit and you also have to prove you can carry and conceal it, the law in most states still stipulates it HAS to be on your person, but most cops will let it slide if you take it off for comfort. That's. It going to fly so well for a AR pistol, and if you look some states do not accept a back pack as a holster. The whole carrying a loaded AR pistol argument hinges on how your states CCW laws are written towards concealed carry. View Quote |
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How so? I constantly see people saying you can keep a loaded AR pistol in a car, well true to some extent, but you have to have a concealed permit and you also have to prove you can carry and conceal it, the law in most states still stipulates it HAS to be on your person, but most cops will let it slide if you take it off for comfort. That's. It going to fly so well for a AR pistol, and if you look some states do not accept a back pack as a holster. The whole carrying a loaded AR pistol argument hinges on how your states CCW laws are written towards concealed carry. View Quote |
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How so? I constantly see people saying you can keep a loaded AR pistol in a car, well true to some extent, but you have to have a concealed permit and you also have to prove you can carry and conceal it, the law in most states still stipulates it HAS to be on your person, but most cops will let it slide if you take it off for comfort. That's. It going to fly so well for a AR pistol, and if you look some states do not accept a back pack as a holster. The whole carrying a loaded AR pistol argument hinges on how your states CCW laws are written towards concealed carry. View Quote |
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A backpack doubles as a soft gun case .... particularly a purpose built backpack.
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Not to mention paying someone to do the engraving, or the time spent doing it yourself. But honestly is it really about $200.00? Many go through that in ammo in a few range sessions, or when buying a new rail. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The PDW stock that isn't a brace is nearly the same cost, plus $200 for the stamp. The stamp doesn't come with a stock, you still have to buy that. Lol Math But honestly is it really about $200.00? Many go through that in ammo in a few range sessions, or when buying a new rail. They are just upset that the great unwashed masses can play their game now. A stamp just doesn't mean what it used to. We do this thread once a month and it's always the same lame arguments. OG brace user here. Been shouldering since before it was cool. No fucks given. |
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Brace looks horrible, like wankin with a rubber on.
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Of course it's not about a couple hundred bucks. Most of us light our cigars with more cash than that. The sbr club will never get it. They are just upset that the great unwashed masses can play their game now. A stamp just doesn't mean what it used to. We do this thread once a month and it's always the same lame arguments. OG brace user here. Been shouldering since before it was cool. No fucks given. View Quote |
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