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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:28:49 AM EST
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Same here.

No point paying Uncle Sugar the $200.00 then wait a indeterminate amount of time for them to allow me to build something I can't carry in my vehicle loaded nor take across state lines without permission with.

I'd not put a "real stock" on but one of my pistol builds even if I could do it for free.
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Same in PA.
Same here.

No point paying Uncle Sugar the $200.00 then wait a indeterminate amount of time for them to allow me to build something I can't carry in my vehicle loaded nor take across state lines without permission with.

I'd not put a "real stock" on but one of my pistol builds even if I could do it for free.
Yep
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:33:02 AM EST
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I cobbled this one together for use around the homestead the other day.

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Even if that brace with the retractable legs was not expensive I don't think I would like it. I don't like the idea of anything getting between me and the safety if you don't have the time to deploy. I've had other guns with M2 type stock legs and never really cared for them much except for the H&K 91/93 ones that fit into a groove in the receiver. Exposed legs are just waiting to hang-up on stuff.  With a regular brace set to your OAL preferences it's a grab it and go proposition.

It would seem to me if you wanted a shorter OAL your $400.00 would be better spent on one of those side folding buffer tubes and a KAK brace set to your OAL.

BTW....The MP K2 grip makes a positive difference (for me) for a AR pistol. I've fitted-out all my AR pistols, save one, with them.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:35:56 AM EST
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No stamp?
Pleb.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:44:26 AM EST
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I cobbled this one together for use around the homestead the other day.

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Even if that brace with the retractable legs was not expensive I don't think I would like it. I don't like the idea of anything getting between me and the safety if you don't have the time to deploy. I've had other guns with M2 type stock legs and never really cared for them much except for the H&K 91/93 ones that fit into a groove in the receiver. Exposed legs are just waiting to hang-up on stuff.  With a regular brace set to your OAL preferences it's a grab it and go proposition.

It would seem to me if you wanted a shorter OAL your $400.00 would be better spent on one of those side folding buffer tubes and a KAK brace set to your OAL.

BTW....The MP K2 grip makes a positive difference (for me) for a AR pistol. I've fitted-out all my AR pistols, save one, with them.
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Not as cool looking as your 300BLK.  
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:47:39 AM EST
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I have plenty of sbr's and I know they don't count as a rifle in PA, I just don't want to use a stamped item as a trunk gun.  I have a law folder on one sbr, I might get another when the mod2 tail hook comes out.  Sigh, gotta pay to play lol
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:53:58 AM EST
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First off I'm in the "stamp" club. (suppressor)

Other than allow for a traditional stock set-up what will your Uncle Sugar approved SBR AR do that a braced AR pistol won't?

Is that setup advantage enough to submit yourself to the added restrictions of owning a SBR?

It's certainly your money, time, desire, to SBR a AR but it's seems almost rube-ish to SBR a AR at this point so I'd not be throwing rocks.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:59:09 AM EST
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Best price I've found so far on the Maxim brace w/JP buffer.

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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 2:32:14 PM EST
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Log in to DSG and send them a copy of your credentials. It's well worth it. They had me signed up within an hour.

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Log in to DSG and send them a copy of your credentials. It's well worth it. They had me signed up within an hour.

LEO/MIL DSG
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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 3:09:14 PM EST
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That's the thing. I'm hearing the end of the month, which probably means maybe by the end of the year.

I'm growing impatient.
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Release date?
That's the thing. I'm hearing the end of the month, which probably means maybe by the end of the year.

I'm growing impatient.
Web page still just says "Summer 2017".   Hopefully the Mod 3 wont be far behind.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:42:37 PM EST
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Sometimes PSA has them for less.  I saw one a few weeks back as a complete pistol lower for around $350.

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Sonovabitch, that's a good deal.

I'll have to start watching their site again.

ETA: Nevermind. I see that it is not the Maxim version.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:51:06 PM EST
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Geez that all sbr and braces stock is retarded..
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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 7:55:27 PM EST
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Jeez, people are going to start thinking I'm a shill for Maxim. (I'm not by the way. Just a very satisfied customer.)

Anyway, the CQB brace does not block access to the selector lever in my experience.

Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:01:58 PM EST
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Honestly, I just ditched it all together. It's lighter, would be more concealable if for some reason I needed it to be. It's not bad shooting without it at all.


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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:07:26 PM EST
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For $20 each how could I not:

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Link Posted: 8/3/2017 8:44:22 PM EST
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Honestly, I just ditched it all together. It's lighter, would be more concealable if for some reason I needed it to be. It's not bad shooting without it at all.


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How's that dealio work?
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:08:37 PM EST
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Maxim


Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:12:56 PM EST
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Maxim CQB brace
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This reminds me of that Anti-Conformist's Club I started back in school.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:15:25 PM EST
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I just ordered a couple of the SBM4 braces from Ballistic Deals.  Best price I have seen for them.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:22:25 PM EST
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The brace is only one bureaucratic letter away from illegal.
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Turn yourself in for even thinking about shouldering one.
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 11:54:39 PM EST
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I'll just stick with the shockwave until one comes out to mimic the LWRC Ultra Compact Stock.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 12:00:05 AM EST
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Pleb.
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In addition to being light, compact, easy and fun to shoot, one of the absolute best parts of having an AR pistol is how much it pisses off the elitist SBRtard's bigly.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 12:05:23 AM EST
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How's that dealio work?
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Honestly, I just ditched it all together. It's lighter, would be more concealable if for some reason I needed it to be. It's not bad shooting without it at all.


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How's that dealio work?
yes more info please...
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 12:17:55 AM EST
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yes more info please...
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Law tactical folder...
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 1:01:30 AM EST
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In addition to being light, compact, easy and fun to shoot, one of the absolute best parts of having an AR pistol is how much it pisses off the elitist SBRtard's bigly.
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No stamp?
Pleb.
In addition to being light, compact, easy and fun to shoot, one of the absolute best parts of having an AR pistol is how much it pisses off the elitist SBRtard's bigly.
@mgunslinger

I just jumped in with the SB Tac PDW.
This will replace my SigBrace on Sexxy Shorty.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 3:27:39 AM EST
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A few of mine.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 4:39:14 AM EST
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The Maxim is about the only brace I've seen that doesn't look the total ass to me.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 5:37:16 AM EST
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Thordsen..........


Link Posted: 8/4/2017 6:07:12 AM EST
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Can you hunt with an SBR in CO?  Can you have an SBR loaded(round in chamber) in your vehicle?  (spoiler: no,no)
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A stamp.

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Can you hunt with an SBR in CO?  Can you have an SBR loaded(round in chamber) in your vehicle?  (spoiler: no,no)
What if I want a Krink, or a SCAR? Oh wait I'm SOL.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 6:14:56 AM EST
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Just click a button and fold it to the side. The only thing it leaves to be desired is, when to the side, I wish there was some kind of positive lockup. There isn't I can just swing around loose.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 6:20:22 AM EST
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Pleb.
In addition to being light, compact, easy and fun to shoot, one of the absolute best parts of having an AR pistol is how much it pisses off the elitist SBRtard's bigly.
Doesn't piss me off, most look stupid. Thing is eventually with how their pushing the definintion to skirt the law, a new opinion will be made reversing their original decision and they will be illegal. I see the cross state lines, but really that's just trying to make a point for justification of spending twice as much for a stamp.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 6:39:40 AM EST
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Pick up that can, citizen.
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You're not "picking up that can" by abiding by the bullshit law in the first place and using a brace?  

You only get to use that comeback if you've got a safe full of unregistered SBRs.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 7:08:09 AM EST
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Doesn't piss me off, most look stupid. Thing is eventually with how their pushing the definintion to skirt the law, a new opinion will be made reversing their original decision and they will be illegal. I see the cross state lines, but really that's just trying to make a point for justification of spending twice as much for a stamp.
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I am not looking at it when I am shooting, just enjoying something that is functionally the same, but different, according to our fucked up laws.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 7:25:25 AM EST
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Go be poor somewhere else
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Ouch! 4 bills?!
Go be poor somewhere else
Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 7:33:29 AM EST
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Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol
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Why people cant get it through their heads that its not so much about the money as it is the regulations attached to an sbr is beyond me.

Crossing state lines. The ability to legally carry loaded in the vehicle exc.

It's been pointed out in this thread, as well as many others, ad nauseam.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 7:43:26 AM EST
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Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol
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The PDW stock that isn't a brace is nearly the same cost, plus $200 for the stamp. The stamp doesn't come with a stock, you still have to buy that. Lol

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Link Posted: 8/4/2017 8:01:07 AM EST
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The PDW stock that isn't a brace is nearly the same cost, plus $200 for the stamp. The stamp doesn't come with a stock, you still have to buy that. Lol

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Not to mention paying someone to do the engraving, or the time spent doing it yourself.

But honestly is it really about $200.00? Many go through that in ammo in a few range sessions, or when buying a new rail.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 8:06:59 AM EST
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There is a dealer in the EE selling the brace and a JP silent captured spring setup for slightly cheaper.  

Colonial Armory
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 8:35:24 AM EST
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Why people cant get it through their heads that its not so much about the money as it is the regulations attached to an sbr is beyond me.

Crossing state lines. The ability to legally carry loaded in the vehicle exc.

It's been pointed out in this thread, as well as many others, ad nauseam.
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Why would anyone with a few cells in their heads spend $400 on a dumb looking "brace" when they could spend half that on a stamp and have the real deal is beyond me lol
Why people cant get it through their heads that its not so much about the money as it is the regulations attached to an sbr is beyond me.

Crossing state lines. The ability to legally carry loaded in the vehicle exc.

It's been pointed out in this thread, as well as many others, ad nauseam.
So exactly how many loaded weapons can you legally carry in your vehicle? Seriously, you carry a pistol, on you, then you keep a loaded AR pistol as well? I know your not carrying you AR pistol concealed. I don't know about laws elsewhere, but here having a loaded weapon without having a concealed permit is a big no, and even technically it's illegal to not have it on your person. While we're at it, even the shortest SBR isn't half as easy to maneuver as a pistol in a vehicle. Yes I have SBR's, I even have a pistol lower, honestly I keep a 16" in a locked rifle vault in my vehicle, and a loaded pistol via my CCW. I would like to see someone explaining to authorities why they have a loaded AR pistol, and most likely a pistol, let alone god forbid actually having to use it and not being "painted" as some sort of psycho looking for a fight.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 2:13:04 PM EST
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I carry an AR pistol. I don't carry it everywhere, but I do carry it.

I have a special backpack that makes it very fast and easy to deploy.

If I ever have to shoot someone, the cops will not be asking me about my choice of weapons, and I will not be providing a comment beyond:

"I was attacked. I feared for my life, and was forced to take action. I look forward to cooperating with your investigation after I've had an opportunity to speak with my Attorney."

Same thing you say no matter what weapon was used.

Let your Lawyer worry about how to explain that you carry an AR in your vehicle for the same reason the cops do.

This issue is kinda like owning a gun, really. If you don't want a pistol/brace. Don't buy one.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 2:41:13 PM EST
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So exactly how many loaded weapons can you legally carry in your vehicle? Seriously, you carry a pistol, on you, then you keep a loaded AR pistol as well? I know your not carrying you AR pistol concealed. I don't know about laws elsewhere, but here having a loaded weapon without having a concealed permit is a big no, and even technically it's illegal to not have it on your person. While we're at it, even the shortest SBR isn't half as easy to maneuver as a pistol in a vehicle. Yes I have SBR's, I even have a pistol lower, honestly I keep a 16" in a locked rifle vault in my vehicle, and a loaded pistol via my CCW. I would like to see someone explaining to authorities why they have a loaded AR pistol, and most likely a pistol, let alone god forbid actually having to use it and not being "painted" as some sort of psycho looking for a fight.
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The big plus for me is I can have a loaded pistol in my car, but not a loaded rifle. 
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Same in PA.
An SBR is a firearm according to PA law.
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So exactly how many loaded weapons can you legally carry in your vehicle? Seriously, you carry a pistol, on you, then you keep a loaded AR pistol as well? I know your not carrying you AR pistol concealed. I don't know about laws elsewhere, but here having a loaded weapon without having a concealed permit is a big no, and even technically it's illegal to not have it on your person. While we're at it, even the shortest SBR isn't half as easy to maneuver as a pistol in a vehicle. Yes I have SBR's, I even have a pistol lower, honestly I keep a 16" in a locked rifle vault in my vehicle, and a loaded pistol via my CCW. I would like to see someone explaining to authorities why they have a loaded AR pistol, and most likely a pistol, let alone god forbid actually having to use it and not being "painted" as some sort of psycho looking for a fight.
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How so? I constantly see people saying you can keep a loaded AR pistol in a car, well true to some extent, but you have to have a concealed permit and you also have to prove you can carry and conceal it, the law in most states still stipulates it HAS to be on your person, but most cops will let it slide if you take it off for comfort. That's. It going to fly so well for a AR pistol, and if you look some states do not accept a back pack as a holster. The whole carrying a loaded AR pistol argument hinges on how your states CCW laws are written towards concealed carry.
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How so? I constantly see people saying you can keep a loaded AR pistol in a car, well true to some extent, but you have to have a concealed permit and you also have to prove you can carry and conceal it, the law in most states still stipulates it HAS to be on your person, but most cops will let it slide if you take it off for comfort. That's. It going to fly so well for a AR pistol, and if you look some states do not accept a back pack as a holster. The whole carrying a loaded AR pistol argument hinges on how your states CCW laws are written towards concealed carry.
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All of that is GTG in my state which is why I want a pistol (to complement my stamp collection). Carry loaded in a vehicle. I guess if I lived in a state like yours my OPINION would be different.
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How so? I constantly see people saying you can keep a loaded AR pistol in a car, well true to some extent, but you have to have a concealed permit and you also have to prove you can carry and conceal it, the law in most states still stipulates it HAS to be on your person, but most cops will let it slide if you take it off for comfort. That's. It going to fly so well for a AR pistol, and if you look some states do not accept a back pack as a holster. The whole carrying a loaded AR pistol argument hinges on how your states CCW laws are written towards concealed carry.
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My state says I can have a loaded pistol in the car, but not a rifle, short barrelled or not. I can carry whatever I want on my person, concealed or not. Sorry about your laws, they do not apply here.
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How so? I constantly see people saying you can keep a loaded AR pistol in a car, well true to some extent, but you have to have a concealed permit and you also have to prove you can carry and conceal it, the law in most states still stipulates it HAS to be on your person, but most cops will let it slide if you take it off for comfort. That's. It going to fly so well for a AR pistol, and if you look some states do not accept a back pack as a holster. The whole carrying a loaded AR pistol argument hinges on how your states CCW laws are written towards concealed carry.
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Yet I see members from your state posting in the weekly "Bash Texas" threads about how restrictive my state's firearms laws are compared to your state's firearms laws.

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A backpack doubles as a soft gun case .... particularly a purpose built backpack.
Again, if you don't want an AR pistol, don't buy one.
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Not to mention paying someone to do the engraving, or the time spent doing it yourself.

But honestly is it really about $200.00? Many go through that in ammo in a few range sessions, or when buying a new rail.
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The PDW stock that isn't a brace is nearly the same cost, plus $200 for the stamp. The stamp doesn't come with a stock, you still have to buy that. Lol

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Not to mention paying someone to do the engraving, or the time spent doing it yourself.

But honestly is it really about $200.00? Many go through that in ammo in a few range sessions, or when buying a new rail.
Of course it's not about a couple hundred bucks. Most of us light our cigars with more cash than that. The sbr club will never get it.

They are just upset that the great unwashed masses can play their game now. A stamp just doesn't mean what it used to.  

We do this thread once a month and it's always the same lame arguments.

OG brace user here. Been shouldering since before it was cool. No fucks given.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 10:45:57 PM EST
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I prefer the SBM4 braces. They are among the better looking of all the braces and are also one of the most comfortable to use. And they remain in the realm of being reasonably affordable.



I like the way the Shockwave Blade looks and I do appreciate the ability to adjust where it sits on the buffer tube with the set screw and dimples. But I don't find it to be particular comfortable to use, especially during those moments where it makes "incidental" contact (cough) with your shoulder. The way it is made causes it to actually feel like a "blade" and it can be quite uncomfortable to use for extended periods, particularly with heavier recoiling calibers than 5.56mm. The Blade would have been a real winner had the ATF not ruled that brace protector thingy someone developed for it illegal.
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Brace looks horrible, like wankin with a rubber on.
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Of course it's not about a couple hundred bucks. Most of us light our cigars with more cash than that. The sbr club will never get it.

They are just upset that the great unwashed masses can play their game now. A stamp just doesn't mean what it used to.  

We do this thread once a month and it's always the same lame arguments.

OG brace user here. Been shouldering since before it was cool. No fucks given.
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