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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:41:15 PM EDT
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Stealth Technology Formulas.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:03:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Election outcome control. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:03:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Propaganda tactics against civilians. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:06:19 PM EDT
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IIRC we wasted a lot of money trying to develop ball point pens that would work reliably in microgravity conditions. The USSR simply used pencils.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:18:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC we wasted a lot of money trying to develop ball point pens that would work reliably in microgravity conditions. The USSR simply used pencils. Lead as a conductor story in 3...2....1... |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC we wasted a lot of money trying to develop ball point pens that would work reliably in microgravity conditions. The USSR simply used pencils. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lead as a conductor story in 3...2....1... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: IIRC we wasted a lot of money trying to develop ball point pens that would work reliably in microgravity conditions. The USSR simply used pencils. Lead as a conductor story in 3...2....1... 
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:22:51 PM EDT
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Bernie Sanders for one.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:23:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vodka. It's not a Soviet/Russian invention. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The USSR provided all the titanium needed to build our fleet of SR-71 Blackbirds. So in a roundabout sort of way, they gave us the fastest jet in the world. (CIA set up hundreds of shell companies to stealthily buy up their supply of titanium). Back then, the CIA was actually doing stuff FOR the United States. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:27:47 PM EDT
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Their government
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:30:19 PM EDT
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Communism
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe not the same thing, but the hype and threat behind the MiG-25 was a strong influence on the development of the F-15: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MiG-25-Propaganda.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmrTKeMacAAtLlM.jpg ^this |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:42:46 PM EDT
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The R-73 and its HMD led to the development of Western equivalents.
T-64 predated the Abrams and Leopard 2 by a decade or more with composite armor. Soviets perfected gun-launched ATGM vs the US implementation of the Shillelagh. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember once Obongo got into office he got busy appointing czars left and right. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The position of Czar. I remember once Obongo got into office he got busy appointing czars left and right. fdr started it, but like everything else both parties love it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:12:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To answer the original question, one technology we made off with was welding of dissimilar metals. The French and the Japanese got compressible wind tunnels, the welding, and probably a couple of other technologies. Another was probably waffle guidance fins for bombs. They're dang effective at supersonic speeds. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/348/14897.JPG Quality post. An American auto industry supplier - most of you would know the name - got hold of one of the ex-Soviet, ex-weapons scientists who took mag pulse welding far beyond anything the Russians did for them, then promptly squandered the tech and ran off all the key people who knew how to build and use the machines. You could theoretically weld anything to anything, so long as one of the materials were conductive. It was scheduled to try aluminum to carbon fiber and some other exotic stuff when it was all shut down. They actually briefly produced aluminum tube driveshafts welded to steel yokes. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:21:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ^this Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe not the same thing, but the hype and threat behind the MiG-25 was a strong influence on the development of the F-15: https://theaviationgeekclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MiG-25-Propaganda.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmrTKeMacAAtLlM.jpg ^this Meh. The Foxbat was a single purpose interceptor designed specifically to shoot down a bomber we cancelled - Valkyrie maybe? - been a few decades. The Foxhound was designed specifically to intercept the Bone (B-1). One reason Reagan restarted the program on the B-1 was because he knew the Soviets would spend anything they had to in order to have a direct counter. If you drill down on the tenets of communism, this is actually core to their belief system - they MUST have a direct counter for everything. Reagan and his advisors knew that, and knew that their economic underpinnings were rotted to the point of collapse, hence the real reason for the arms buildup of the 1980's that included the B-1. The Eagle was designed from the ground up as an air domination fighter, not as a straightline interceptor. It's like comparing a Challenger SRT Demon (Russians) to a C7 Corvette Z06 (F-15). Yeah, they both have 4 wheels and two doors and a big engine, similarity stops there. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:25:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. You sound like a great son. I feel like I've failed my three adult boys. I mean, if they're not stabbing me in the back for being a "boomer", I must've fucked up somewhere, right? 
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:38:45 PM EDT
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Political correctness. When I first heard the term used in some American circles (late 1980s?) it reminded me of what I'd heard in the 1970s and early 1980s at an Orthodox seminary from people who themselves (or their parents) had escaped one of the eastern European countries under control of the Soviets.
And since the "election" outcome of 2020, looks to me as if the US is on a Democrat-media-public education fueled trajectory to become the USSR 2.0. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you dont own a car that works, and you need to get to Wal Mart. You ride to Wal Mart in someone else's car. I hope that provided context. You don't know what you're talking about if you're trying to assert that the USA relies on Russia for sending astronauts to space. That hasn't been the case for years. SpaceX has launched 38 people (including some Russians) into orbit over the past 3 years. Russia has launched 24. https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/05/spacex-launches-tenth-crewed-mission-third-fully-commercial-flight/ |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:55:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It confirmed that I was apparently right with my first assumption. Here's some actual context. https://www.nasa.gov/international-space-station/space-station-visiting-vehicles/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .Gov Intel tactics, propaganda, capturing of media/education for state use (socialism), numerous weapons systems, rocket technology (I had a USSR defector physics teacher in college). Seems like the USSR was beating us in space for a while......... but we landed on the moon. So we won the imaginary race to nowhere. Who do we ride to space with again? SpaceX? Try harder Perhaps you could clarify the meaning behind your phrase "ride to space with?" Perhaps, using the last launch, the answer is "Europeans, Japanese, and Russians?" My question mark remains legitimate, as I don't understand the point your apparently rhetorical question is trying to make. If you dont own a car that works, and you need to get to Wal Mart. You ride to Wal Mart in someone else's car. I hope that provided context. It confirmed that I was apparently right with my first assumption. Here's some actual context. https://www.nasa.gov/international-space-station/space-station-visiting-vehicles/ There you go again with your facts. This is not what my AM radio and my algorithmically driven social media feed told me was happening. You commie! |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:59:09 PM EDT
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Original stealth paper was written by a Russian in Russia and apparently was ignored for years and someone in the west picked up on it.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:01:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The M249 ripped off the AK/PK operating system, but the AK also ripped off the Remington Model 8 FCG. The TT-33 is a ripoff of Browning designs. We copied Trotskyism, color revolutions, use of the word "Czar" for government officials, malicious government surveillance, pogroms, and use of federal LE to punish political opponents. IMHO much of it is nostalgia, you see it in a lot of SM posts about Ukraine, and posts where people mention that they actually believe Russians facilitated the election of Donald Trump. A lot of people grew up in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis, with the looming specter of the USSR always on their mind; or joined the military at a time when it was expected that we'd go to war with the Russians, or at least expected that those who joined would. Instead, many of them got wrapped up in pointless ground occupations in the ME that traded American blood and wealth to replace the Taliban with the Taliban, and Saddam Hussein's regime with an Iranian puppet state. There are much more concerning threats that the United States should be focused on. Those who dwell on what was are showcasing a limited ability to critically process new information. Our open hemorrhaging border is an arterial wound, a days drive to any hospital. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:03:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coaxial helicopter rotors. IRST - passive Infrared search & track. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We copied the VTOL system from the Yak-31. The F-35’s VTOL system is essentially the exact same system.Linkey. They were also the first to use smooth bore tank cannons with APFSDS ammo. The Bradley is a response to the BMP and copies some of the concepts. There’s probably a few more in missile technology that are less obvious. Coaxial helicopter rotors. IRST - passive Infrared search & track. What US helicopter uses coaxial rotors? We use tandem and side by side. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:10:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .Gov Intel tactics, propaganda, capturing of media/education for state use (socialism), numerous weapons systems, rocket technology (I had a USSR defector physics teacher in college). Seems like the USSR was beating us in space for a while......... but we landed on the moon. So we won the imaginary race to nowhere. Who do we ride to space with again? We pulled ahead of the Russians during Gemini. The race to the moon was not imaginary, as the Russians did try to beat us there after Kennedy set the goal. After all, the Russian manned space program was much more focused on upstaging the US in the headlines than real technical progress and beating us to the Moon would have been the ultimate win that we could not top for decades if they pulled it off. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:22:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Communism |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:26:17 AM EDT
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Kgb. Secret police.
Blackmailed politicians and judges. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:34:03 AM EDT
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White capitalist conservative males being the enemy of the people.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 1:05:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stealth technology This |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:14:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The M249 ripped off the AK/PK operating system, but the AK also ripped off the Remington Model 8 FCG. The Kalashnikov is a Garand and ZK-420/ZK-425 hybrid. The way the cam slot pushes straight ahead on the bolt without trying to turn it, until the bolt hits a cam ( bump rivet in the AKM series) to bump it off of the flat surface of the carrier cam slot, is definitely taken from the Garand. (I find it odd that the M14 doesn't use this feature from the M1. Maybe the bolt roller made it impossible without a major redesign.) I agree on the FCG. Garand borrowed heavily from the Remington Model 8 FCG as well. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:36:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Give our "leaders" a little more time and they will copy mass starvation. Damn, our future according to the wishes of AOC, the squad and the Communist Faction of the Democrat Party. Exactly correct if they keep control of the Democrat Party. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:47:08 AM EDT
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The new HK IAR the Marines are using is a copy of the RPK concept.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:47:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Election outcome control. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:57:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems to me we copied quite a few small arms concepts from them. Not so much mechanically copied, but ideas of use. The RPD predated the M249 SAW by decades- but they have the same concept of being a belt-fed light machine gun in the same caliber as the infantry rifle. The RPK replaced the RPD, being a more heavy-duty variant of the infantry rifle, which could be seen as a sort of inspiration for the M27 IAR. The intermediate cartridge itself I think is a bit trickier to pin down. It seems to me the US, Germany, and Soviets all arrived at the concept in similar fashion. It could be argued the Russians had it first in the Federov, since although it does fire a rifle cartridge the 6.5x50mm Arisaka is a reduced power cartridge compared to 7.62x54mmR but I tend to think that's a bit of a stretch. The thought was definitely there, though, so it could be argued. Although not popular opinion, I am probably most convinced the .30 Carbine cartridge is the first intermediate cartridge. Certainly the first to see mass issuance and success. I think calling it a "pistol cartridge" when from day one it was intended to be used in a shoulder-fired application is silly. Because it isn't bottle-necked? Does that make .45-70 a pistol cartridge? It's a primitive intermediate cartridge. don't you even 32-20, bro? . |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:58:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What US helicopter uses coaxial rotors? We use tandem and side by side. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We copied the VTOL system from the Yak-31. The F-35’s VTOL system is essentially the exact same system.Linkey. They were also the first to use smooth bore tank cannons with APFSDS ammo. The Bradley is a response to the BMP and copies some of the concepts. There’s probably a few more in missile technology that are less obvious. Coaxial helicopter rotors. IRST - passive Infrared search & track. What US helicopter uses coaxial rotors? We use tandem and side by side. Something about not greasing the correct palms. SIKORSKY... kindof related to Igor 
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Posted: 11/27/2023 3:02:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This What stealth aircraft did the USSR produce? |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 3:04:49 AM EDT
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Can we turn this into a light hearted taunting thread?
Bet PSA can't copy a Tigr or SVD? China did with an NDM86. They definitely can't copy a Vintorez that eats Blackout. Common PSA, step up to the plate. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 4:29:50 AM EDT
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Is there a good read -- maybe something in the style of Clancy's nonfic -- on the history of the US and USSR aircraft? People mentioned the F15 being influenced by the MiG-25, and I would love to read more about that and other aircraft comparisons/history.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 6:51:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The M249 ripped off the AK/PK operating system, but the AK also ripped off the Remington Model 8 FCG. If I'm not mistaken the AK Operating system is basically a garand flipped upside down with a garand trigger. The safety is eerily similar to the Remington model 8. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 7:11:49 AM EDT
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Track suits
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Posted: 11/27/2023 7:23:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: god damn that mig is FUGLY |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 7:43:10 AM EDT
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I remember thinking that the army motorized plt structure becoming more like the Soviet's / Russian's years ago. The squad markman was standardized in the Russian plts although I know that during WW2 several militaries had them.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 7:50:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Communism |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 7:51:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Propaganda tactics against civilians. This. Had to listen to my boomer father lament on how worried we need to be about Russia. "Dad, Russia can't even invade Muslim Quebec!!" "Yes, but you didn't grow up knowing that they could nuke us any minute!" The farce of Russia as a 1st world military power is absolutely ridiculous at this point, and I've lost respect for anyone who still holds that irrational fear. The Communists have ultimately won the Cold War without using nukes. Your father was right about Russia, but wrong about the threat. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 7:53:41 AM EDT
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Wasn't OTH Radar a USSR first?
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Posted: 11/27/2023 11:16:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I'm not mistaken the AK Operating system is basically a garand flipped upside down with a garand trigger. The safety is eerily similar to the Remington model 8. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The M249 ripped off the AK/PK operating system, but the AK also ripped off the Remington Model 8 FCG. If I'm not mistaken the AK Operating system is basically a garand flipped upside down with a garand trigger. The safety is eerily similar to the Remington model 8. The Soviets definitely had some M1 rifles to play with, at least as early as 1943 . Personally, I think the AK is a mashup of Remington Model 8 (FCG), M1 (gas system and bolt lugs), and STG-44 (bolt face, fixed ejector). |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 1:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The new HK IAR the Marines are using is a copy of the RPK concept. And that was a copy of the BAR concept. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 9:04:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coaxial helicopter rotors. IRST - passive Infrared search & track. US interceptors like the F-101 and F-102 had IRST along with some models of the Phantom in the early 60’s. |
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