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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:16:18 PM EDT
[#1]
the only reason to mine shit in space is to build shit in space.
Until they have perfected growing barley and hops in zero gravity it is all a waste of time. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:17:46 PM EDT
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Hypoallergenic platinum and iridium buckshot and bullets would have awesome ballistics.
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:18:16 PM EDT
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It will never be economically viable to mine anything in space.
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:25:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will never be economically viable to mine anything in space. LOL. In 66 years we created powered flight, split the atom, and landed humans on the moon. Less than a human lifetime. And you're gonna declare that our capitalist society will NEVER figure out how to economically extract the unlimited resources of the solar system? |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:31:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The gold would be treated similar to diamonds. The owner doles only so much gold to keep the available quantity low and the prices high. https://www.wealthandfinance-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/gold-bar.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:Several years ago a local company proposed mining asteroids. They came to my then-employer looking for proposals for mining machines. Their projected gold yields were equal to the gold supply on the entire planet. I recall thinking that would surely depress the gold market, but what do I know? Anyway, it wasn't feasible then and it's still not feasible. And if you invest a fortune to bring back massive quantities of precious metals, you'll find your pile of gold has devalued itself. Look at deep sea mining. There has been an interest in pulling manganese nodules from the seabed, and when copper prices spiked the prospect of mining hot water vents looked realistic. But it has never panned out, so to speak. The gold would be treated similar to diamonds. The owner doles only so much gold to keep the available quantity low and the prices high. https://www.wealthandfinance-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/gold-bar.jpg Sounds plausible. Right now I'm not convinced there's a happy operating point that would let them recover their investment. Seabed mining is clearly much more attainable and we've been working deep water oil wells for decades now. Yet that is still not economically viable. IMO we will mine space after we deplete the seabed and we haven't even started on the seabed yet. And we will mine the seabed after we've depleted the landfills, where we are currently collecting massive troves of reusable materials. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The gold would be treated similar to diamonds. The owner doles only so much gold to keep the available quantity low and the prices high. https://www.wealthandfinance-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/gold-bar.jpg That won't work with large scale, industrialized mining of asteroids. Once humanity is off this planet in a big way any Shmoo can who can scrape the capital together for a ship and mining equipment can go out and grab all the fill in the blank they want. It won't be like it is now where a cartel like Debeers can maintain scarcity. Even here at this point in history the only people who treasure diamonds are some combination of uneducated and vain people who can be tricked into treasuring almost anything. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will never be economically viable to mine anything in space. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:46:43 PM EDT
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There will be lots of automated heavy industry in space if reality is anything like EVE online
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:54:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really, I think you have it backwards. Our economy is based on the cost of limited resources. If cobalt, nickel, chrome, or other materials become cheaper, then you can use them in places where they are too expensive now. Platinum is very abundant in asteroids. It is highly useful for catalysts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So much is based on the value of our limited mineral resources. What happens when we tap into the nearly unlimited metallic resources of the asteroids in our solar system? If cobalt, nickel, chrome, or other materials become cheaper, then you can use them in places where they are too expensive now. Platinum is very abundant in asteroids. It is highly useful for catalysts. When I was mining Pgm's platinum group METALS. Final process was shipped to Belgium because of U.S. EPA LAWS. not sure if that's changed. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 1:54:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will never be economically viable to mine anything in space. SpaceX is building a massive fleet strictly for entertaiment purposes...? |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:08:14 PM EDT
[#11]
This is what happens:
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hypoallergenic platinum and iridium buckshot and bullets would have awesome ballistics. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:20:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was mining Pgm's platinum group METALS. Final process was shipped to Belgium because of U.S. EPA LAWS. not sure if that's changed. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the only reason to mine shit in space is to build shit in space. Dude  The metal value of asteroids ranges up to the hundreds of trillions of USD. There's no environmental impact to extract those metals. They can be dropped anywhere on the planet, ready to be used. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:31:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That only works with a functioning middle class, which socialism and communism kills off, sometimes literally kills off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Turn more toward a service economy. There's a guy who drives around here making a living by scooping the dog shit out of people's yards. Subscription service. Yep. That only works with a functioning middle class, which socialism and communism kills off, sometimes literally kills off. Maybe. The economy is becoming more decentralized and harder to control. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are never getting off this rock. Communism will kill us long before the technology gets there. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:40:36 PM EDT
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$10,000 per pound to put something in orbit. Do the math.
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:40:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude The metal value of asteroids ranges up to the hundreds of trillions of USD. There's no environmental impact to extract those metals. They can be dropped anywhere on the planet, ready to be used. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 2:45:29 PM EDT
[#19]
more likely the earth's population will be reduced by 90% of it's current population...in the future those remaining will need a lot less of less
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Posted: 1/2/2022 3:36:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: So much is based on the value of our limited mineral resources. What happens when we tap into the nearly unlimited metallic resources of the asteroids in our solar system? We build a bigger, better earf. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 3:52:35 PM EDT
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Today in this thread we hear from dormers and those who already bow down to communism and the Orwellian future.
Fucking choke yourselves, get out of the way and let those who want to rape this solar system get out there and crush everything socialism and begin a new type of gold rush to the stars and beyond so we CAN get off this fucking rock as God intended. Now is the time for commies to die so that free people can live and profit! Leaders will hang and the future of America will be assured! Fuck all other nations! America first in all things! America will rule the stars! Fuck you haters and commie cucks! 
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Posted: 1/2/2022 3:59:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Today in this thread we hear from dormers and those who already bow down to communism and the Orwellian future. Fucking choke yourselves, get out of the way and let those who want to rape this solar system get out there and crush everything socialism and begin a new type of gold rush to the stars and beyond so we CAN get off this fucking rock as God intended. Now is the time for commies to die so that free people can live and profit! Leaders will hang and the future of America will be assured! Fuck all other nations! America first in all things! America will rule the stars! Fuck you haters and commie cucks! That's better.  Unlimited Resources From Space – Asteroid Mining |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 4:03:25 PM EDT
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Today in this thread we hear from dormers and those who already bow down to communism and the Orwellian future. Fucking choke yourselves, get out of the way and let those who want to rape this solar system get out there and crush everything socialism and begin a new type of gold rush to the stars and beyond so we CAN get off this fucking rock as God intended. Now is the time for commies to die so that free people can live and profit! Leaders will hang and the future of America will be assured! Fuck all other nations! America first in all things! America will rule the stars! Fuck you haters and commie cucks! This man gets it. AoD |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 4:15:58 PM EDT
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This has already happened in history. Aluminum used to be the most expensive metal. Lower the cost and it is used everywhere. Same with what we call rare earth metals now. The tech age is limited by these resources. If platinum is as common as steel think of all the crazy new things will be created. Copper being replaced by gold in electric wiring. The true hunt for super conductors will start. The economy will not crash it will boom. Rice university has discovered a titanium gold mix that is 3-4x stronger than steel but is to expensive to be practical. Scandium strengthens aluminum but you can’t hardly find a 340pd anymore. The hurdle is to mine the first asteroid. After that the floodgates will open. I believe in it enough I would help fund a Kickstarter.
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Posted: 1/2/2022 4:18:04 PM EDT
[#25]
We'll have to compete with the ferengi!
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Posted: 1/2/2022 4:22:24 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We'll have to compete with the ferengi! I think we can deal with them. It would be the Borg I would be worried about. Klingons and Romulans can be dealt with easily if we take them seriously and not pussyfoot around with them. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 4:27:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we can deal with them. It would be the Borg I would be worried about. Klingons and Romulans can be dealt with easily if we take them seriously and not pussyfoot around with them. I'm going to have to smash a woman from each empire, Klingon, Romulan, and Vulcan. I'll probably be the first human with space herpes 
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Posted: 1/2/2022 6:05:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every dirt side government out there is going to want to tax asteroid miners, and some of them are going to pay it in metric tons of iron at 20,000 meters per second delivered to the tax man's office. Stop. I can only get so erect. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 6:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every dirt side government out there is going to want to tax asteroid miners, and some of them are going to pay it in metric tons of iron at 20,000 meters per second delivered to the tax man's office. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dude The metal value of asteroids ranges up to the hundreds of trillions of USD. There's no environmental impact to extract those metals. They can be dropped anywhere on the planet, ready to be used. oh indeed. Asteroids, fusion nozzles, SAPL arrays, and we haven't even mentioned actual weapons. Belters will rule the inner system. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 7:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to have to smash a woman from each empire, Klingon, Romulan, and Vulcan. I'll probably be the first human with space herpes |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 7:55:17 PM EDT
[#31]
How much shit could we bring to Earth before the extra mass altered our orbit of the Sun?
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Posted: 1/2/2022 8:31:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much shit could we bring to Earth before the extra mass altered our orbit of the Sun? As long as the mass is accelerated to Earth's vector before landing, why would it alter Earth's orbit? |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 8:34:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of what relevance is that to the conversation? Of what relevance is the OPs question to a group of people who won’t be around to see any of this happen? |
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