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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:12:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Pressure be a bitch, yo.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:12:44 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm pretty sure nobody here has ever been in one that imploded sooo..
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:13:47 PM EDT
[#3]
Could have imploded (pressure and shrapnel rip you apart), could have lost power and settled on bottom (die of carbon monoxide), could have had leak and settled on bottom (drowned).
Or some combination of the above. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:14:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Imagine being inside a diesel engine cylinder.... Tremendous heat pressure and you are vaporized
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:14:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Quicker'n cancer.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:14:42 PM EDT
[#6]
My guess is..."crushing!"
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:15:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:16:55 PM EDT
[#8]
If the pressure is high enough to crush a metal submarine it would make very quick work of your brain.
It would most certainly be a quick death similar to an explosion. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:19:06 PM EDT
[#9]
Some of the Kursk crew lived for a while.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:19:30 PM EDT
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If water pressure can crush a sub, imagine the human body. I imagine it being like a blood pressure cuff, but on the whole body, where your chest can't expand.
Just a guess. Gotta be horrific. I think there was a Russian sub that had a similar fate? |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:20:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If the pressure is high enough to crush a metal submarine it would make very quick work of your brain. It would most certainly be a quick death similar to an explosion. You'd certainly hope so, otherwise it'd be like getting violently smacked everywhere at once, and then drowning in the surge of water. Everything about it sounds horrific. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could have imploded (pressure and shrapnel rip you apart), could have lost power and settled on bottom (die of carbon monoxide), could have had leak and settled on bottom (drowned). Or some combination of the above. This! They might have split up or they might have capsized They may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:21:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:26:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: The thing that recently happened in Indonesia got me thinking: what is it like to be in an imploding submarine? Is it like you get the ever living fuck squished out of you so fast that you don't even feel it? Or, is it more of a drowning thing? Discuss. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:26:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Bad
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:27:46 PM EDT
[#16]
 Queen - Under Pressure (Official Video) |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:27:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This! They might have split up or they might have capsized They may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters Ya don’t say Gordon. 
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:30:09 PM EDT
[#19]
I just hope it was quick for them.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:30:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya don’t say Gordon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This! They might have split up or they might have capsized They may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters Ya don’t say Gordon. T'was the witch of November come stealin'. 
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:30:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This! They might have split up or they might have capsized They may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could have imploded (pressure and shrapnel rip you apart), could have lost power and settled on bottom (die of carbon monoxide), could have had leak and settled on bottom (drowned). Or some combination of the above. This! They might have split up or they might have capsized They may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters I chuckled quietly to myself. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:30:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what the fuck |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:31:01 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Could have imploded (pressure and shrapnel rip you apart), could have lost power and settled on bottom (die of carbon monoxide), could have had leak and settled on bottom (drowned). Or some combination of the above. They were in 2700 feet of water. They did not settle gently to the bottom. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of the Kursk crew lived for a while. Kursk did not implode. It sank in 350 feet of water, well above crush depth. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:32:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine being inside a diesel engine cylinder.... Tremendous heat pressure and you are vaporized |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:32:23 PM EDT
[#26]
Watch the movie Kursk from 2018.
This thread reminded me of it. I watched it on a Delta flight and forgot to download it. Thanks |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:32:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:34:42 PM EDT
[#28]
I imagine it would be quite cramped.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:35:14 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: The thing that recently happened in Indonesia got me thinking: what is it like to be in an imploding submarine? Is it like you get the ever living fuck squished out of you so fast that you don’t even feel it? Or, is it more of a drowning thing? Discuss. Scorpion... |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:35:14 PM EDT
[#30]
I hope its fast, but death is not kind. I always hope that it is painless, but victims endure immense amount of things that are immeasurable.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:36:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryIn a sub you have almost a normal atmosphere getting compressed. The diesel engine analogy is close to my understanding. I believe bodies have been recovered showing evidence that supports this theory. Whatever happens, once it starts its over fast. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:37:03 PM EDT
[#32]
When a submarine implodes, a variety of fairly ugly things will happen to the crew. If we assume that a pressure hull implodes at 2000 feet (~60 atmospheres), the pressure will increase from 14.7 to about 875 PSI almost instantly. In the parts of the submarine that have volumes of trapped air, it would be like being inside a diesel engine cylinder when begins its compression stroke. Anything flammable would burst into flames until a huge wall of water slams into the area and snuffs it out again. The impact of the water would cause significant injury to anyone unlucky enough to still be alive and there would be no time to suffer the effects of oxygen poisoning or anything else. As others have stated, most human tissues are fluid-filled and are for the most part, incompressible. Human lungs and sinuses would be crushed instantly and the immense shock would render them unconscious immediately. Of greater concern would be the surge of incoming seawater, bulkheads, decks, heavy equipment, motors and other random bits of equipment being slammed into the crew at high velocity. Essentially, the crew would be killed several times over in less than a blink of an eye. Also, like being in charge of the Oscars this year... |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:38:17 PM EDT
[#33]
I "Think" that you burn to death a long time before you can drown.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:40:35 PM EDT
[#34]
Decidedly dangerous.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:40:41 PM EDT
[#35]
The one picture I saw showed the metal curving outward. Since they were practicing firing torpedoes, maybe had something happen like the Russian sub from a few years ago. And yes, I know the Russians had a different design torpedo.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:41:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope its fast, but death is not kind. I always hope that it is painless, but victims endure immense amount of things that are immeasurable. The only thing that would concern me about death, even an instantaneous one, is that the electrical impulses in the brain are near speed-of-light, so the malfunctions caused by death would feel like eternity to many. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:42:22 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They were in 2700 feet of water. They did not settle gently to the bottom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could have imploded (pressure and shrapnel rip you apart), could have lost power and settled on bottom (die of carbon monoxide), could have had leak and settled on bottom (drowned). Or some combination of the above. They were in 2700 feet of water. They did not settle gently to the bottom.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: T'was the witch of November come stealin'. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This! They might have split up or they might have capsized They may have broke deep and took water And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters Ya don’t say Gordon. T'was the witch of November come stealin'. Man, I like that song. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:44:26 PM EDT
[#39]
Due to compartmentalization the hull doesn't usually go all at once. Tapered hulls tend to telescope, stuffing the aft end up into the engine compartment...I have no idea why I know that...
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:45:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing that would concern me about death, even an instantaneous one, is that the electrical impulses in the brain are near speed-of-light, so the malfunctions caused by death would feel like eternity to many. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:46:06 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine being inside a diesel engine cylinder.... Tremendous heat pressure and you are vaporized Not vaporized, just incinerated then immediately crushed to a pulp. Pretty damn quick way to go. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:47:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Fuck that scenario.
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:51:07 PM EDT
[#43]
My understanding is that it all happens in a split second, and you are completely obliterated you never even know you died it's so fast
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:52:35 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing that would concern me about death, even an instantaneous one, is that the electrical impulses in the brain are near speed-of-light, so the malfunctions caused by death would feel like eternity to many.  Electrical impulses in the body (neural propogations) are more in the realm of the speed of SOUND, not light. A CHEMICAL reaction is required for every neurotransmission in the body. https://books.google.com/books?id=dhOlDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT110&lpg=PT110&dq=muscles+can+travel+at+speeds+ranging+from+70-120+meters+per+second+ Unless you have some fiber optic cabling in your noggin you'd like to share with us, Mr. CYBERDYNE!!  |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:52:36 PM EDT
[#45]
So the Kursk sank in 350 ft. and 2700 ft. of water?
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:53:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your brain isn't a copper wire. Neurons are relatively slow. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The only thing that would concern me about death, even an instantaneous one, is that the electrical impulses in the brain are near speed-of-light, so the malfunctions caused by death would feel like eternity to many. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/09/25/bullet-in-the-brain This short story is what made me completely rethink how the brain works at death, to the point that we had a weird mission in Iraq where things didn't add up and it took a few hours before I was convinced shit didn't go south for me. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:53:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:55:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People don't think 15psi be like it is, but it do. Plenty of crooked milk silos and beer fermenters out there too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: what the fuck There is a rumor that a construction crew was working inside a large tank (think 50 to 100 feet high) on a cold day. At the end of the day they shut off their heaters and closed the door behind them and, allegedly, the tank crumpled somewhat overnight. I don't know if there is any truth to the story. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:56:58 PM EDT
[#49]
Is that demonstration where they run a piece of string/rope from both sides of the hull interior, and the deeper
they go, the more the string/rope sags really a thing? |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:57:10 PM EDT
[#50]
It would probably be quick but if you were in it you would be happy about that fact.
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