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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:20:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Dont shoot let them burn?
I got nothing... looked like 42s |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:20:47 PM EDT
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 They're both light and can be fired from nearly anywhere. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:22:44 PM EDT
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Cyclic rate is definitely MG42
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:23:22 PM EDT
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The actual German dude who killed a bunch of Americans at Omaha was using an 8mm copy of a browning machine gun iirc. The movie looked like mg42.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:23:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:23:36 PM EDT
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They were MG42's in cradle mounts.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:25:31 PM EDT
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Most likely MG42s. Possibly some 34s out there too. Been a while since I've seen it.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were MG42's in cradle mounts. Lafette. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:30:08 PM EDT
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When you watch that scene I could not help but think that if the Germans had more 34's and 42's no one would have gotten off a landing craft.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:31:02 PM EDT
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MG-42.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:31:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:32:09 PM EDT
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AK-47. Ask Hillary, she had to run under their fire once.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:32:53 PM EDT
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Ive been around 42's at local MG shoots. Cyclic rate is very high, and very different from the rest.
Sound effects could have been overdubbed on the movie. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:37:43 PM EDT
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MG 42 in the movie.
My understanding is many of the Normandy bunkers had the water cooled German Maxim gun Maschinengewehr 08 in 8mm. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:41:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The actual German dude who killed a bunch of Americans at Omaha was using an 8mm copy of a browning machine gun iirc. The movie looked like mg42. Polish BAR. Static units also used Czech VZ26/30. Captured French stuff like the 24/29. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:42:19 PM EDT
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SAW 249
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:43:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:46:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:48:27 PM EDT
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Was it the 34s that had super high rof, then the 42s that reduced it, or is the other way round?
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:53:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The actual German dude who killed a bunch of Americans at Omaha was using an 8mm copy of a browning machine gun iirc. The movie looked like mg42. If you're referring to Heinrich Severloh, his weapon was an MG42 being utilized in the "light" role off a bipod |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySince we're talking about fiction. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:00:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it the 34s that had super high rof, then the 42s that reduced it, or is the other way round? 34 had a slower rof in general but I think there was a version of it that blew even the 42 out of the water |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:03:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:04:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since we're talking about fiction. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this the Nazi soldier version of the fish tale? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Since we're talking about fiction. I think they talk about it in the Wikipedia article to some extent, but there's pretty much no way he could've done the amount of damage he claims. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:17:18 PM EDT
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It was an MG42.
Here is one of mine including the lafette mount.  I have a few.  |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:43:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they talk about it in the Wikipedia article to some extent, but there's pretty much no way he could've done the amount of damage he claims. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Since we're talking about fiction. I think they talk about it in the Wikipedia article to some extent, but there's pretty much no way he could've done the amount of damage he claims. If you read his book, you'll understand his "claim" was made as a sarcastic comment to a reporter's badgering. Y'all take everything Trump says as gospel too? |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:56:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an MG42. Here is one of mine including the lafette mount. https://i.ibb.co/dPr09MF/r104-1738-cr.jpg I have a few. https://i.ibb.co/Vg86hv6/IMG-0031.jpg   |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:00:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MG 42 in the movie. My understanding is many of the Normandy bunkers had the water cooled German Maxim gun Maschinengewehr 08 in 8mm. I’ve never really looked into it all that much, but it would make sense for the Atlantic Wall to have been full of captured, obsolete, or other substitute-standard crew served small arms where the weight and field sustainability did not really matter. Water cooled MGs would have been particularly useful in that role. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:03:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an MG42. Here is one of mine including the lafette mount. https://i.ibb.co/dPr09MF/r104-1738-cr.jpg I have a few. https://i.ibb.co/Vg86hv6/IMG-0031.jpg Awesome |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:16:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:20:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Der shootzenhoser
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:27:21 PM EDT
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All I see are 42s. God, what a meat grinder an amphib assault can be...
 Saving Private Ryan (1998) Epic Opening Scene |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:35:37 PM EDT
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My Granddad landed on Omaha beach the day after the initial strike. Him and his buddies were messing with one of the German machine guns shooting it out in the ocean. The Germans had booby trapped it and it exploded. My grandfather was injured and never told anyone in the family until his health started to fail and you could see the scar.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:46:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it the 34s that had super high rof, then the 42s that reduced it, or is the other way round? 42s were 1200 rpm. Mg3s have been stepped down to about 800. 42s also have rate reducers, but thoses are a rather recent addon. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:49:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never really looked into it all that much, but it would make sense for the Atlantic Wall to have been full of captured, obsolete, or other substitute-standard crew served small arms where the weight and field sustainability did not really matter. Water cooled MGs would have been particularly useful in that role. If you have the time this audio book touches on these things:  Failed To Load Title  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:51:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:58:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you read his book, you'll understand his "claim" was made as a sarcastic comment to a reporter's badgering. Y'all take everything Trump says as gospel too? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Since we're talking about fiction. I think they talk about it in the Wikipedia article to some extent, but there's pretty much no way he could've done the amount of damage he claims. If you read his book, you'll understand his "claim" was made as a sarcastic comment to a reporter's badgering. Y'all take everything Trump says as gospel too?  No, I just don't have time to read every book written by every insignificant German soldier who's self-aggrandized himself into semi-notoriety. If you hadn't made yourself so worthy of henceforth ignoring, I'd thank you for the added context. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a mix of new, old, and captured equipment utilized on the wall as well as a mix of 1st, 2nd and 3rd line troops. Many troops that were wounded in other theaters and had permanent disabilities could still be useful in a static defense. If you have the time this audio book touches on these things:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmXc2UbtB7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr5MunZqQLkThat book is a work of fiction. Well researched, but fiction. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ive been around 42's at local MG shoots. Cyclic rate is very high, and very different from the rest. Sound effects could have been overdubbed on the movie. “Hitler’s buzz saw” |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:03:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you hadn't made yourself so worthy of henceforth ignoring, I'd thank you for the added context. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Since we're talking about fiction. I think they talk about it in the Wikipedia article to some extent, but there's pretty much no way he could've done the amount of damage he claims. If you read his book, you'll understand his "claim" was made as a sarcastic comment to a reporter's badgering. Y'all take everything Trump says as gospel too? If you hadn't made yourself so worthy of henceforth ignoring, I'd thank you for the added context. So instead of bringing a fact ( or hell... I'd even take an educated opinion), you post what you did. Quiet now, adults are talking... 
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:03:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it the 34s that had super high rof, then the 42s that reduced it, or is the other way round? Opposite. 42 increased cyclic rate and decreased production time. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:06:38 PM EDT
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God I wish I'd picked up a Yugo kit while they were cheap.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an MG42. Here is one of mine including the lafette mount. https://i.ibb.co/dPr09MF/r104-1738-cr.jpg I have a few. https://i.ibb.co/Vg86hv6/IMG-0031.jpg That's fucking SWEET! I don't know for sure what all the Germans were using at Utah or Omaha beaches, but the Atlantic Wall was composed heavily with captured weaponry, especially the heavy artillery. Also older, obsolete or foreign machineguns were also used pretty liberally. Most likely the MG34 would have been used if a modern German MG was in use since the MG42's were being built as fast as possible to go to front line divisions. I'm sure there were some 42's but not near as many as you would think. The Atlantic Wall soldiers were generally not the elite soldiers of the Third Reich either. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:09:55 PM EDT
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Quoted: From cycle rate I was thinking MG42’s but weren’t those fairly light? |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:13:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 42s were 1200 rpm. Mg3s have been stepped down to about 800. 42s also have rate reducers, but thoses are a rather recent addon. MG42 1400 - 1500, MG3 around 1150 - 1200. There are no rate reducers or anything else for the MG42 to lower the firing rate, the lowering of the firing rate in later models was a side effect of making the MG more safe for the machine gunner. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:18:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis guy was a liar, there were other survivors, like Franz Gockel - Gockel and the other guys said the book is BS and Severloh was a pathetic liar and coward. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:19:46 PM EDT
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  “German troops man an MG-34 somewhere along the coast of France.” |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So instead of bringing a fact ( or hell... I'd even take an educated opinion), you post what you did. Quiet now, adults are talking... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Since we're talking about fiction. I think they talk about it in the Wikipedia article to some extent, but there's pretty much no way he could've done the amount of damage he claims. If you read his book, you'll understand his "claim" was made as a sarcastic comment to a reporter's badgering. Y'all take everything Trump says as gospel too? If you hadn't made yourself so worthy of henceforth ignoring, I'd thank you for the added context. So instead of bringing a fact ( or hell... I'd even take an educated opinion), you post what you did. Quiet now, adults are talking... 
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