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Posted: 7/4/2019 3:03:43 PM EST
[#1]
I hate cleaning guns too. That's why I like glocks.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 3:04:49 PM EST
[#2]
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I buy nice guns that just work. I don't clean them till I get around to it sometimes that takes a while. They aren't little bitches that require pampering everytime |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 3:07:24 PM EST
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It's completely unnecessary to clean guns every time you shoot them. It's an irrational hold over from corrosive powders and primers. As far as scrubbing rifle bores goes, frequent cleaning does more harm than good. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 3:36:48 PM EST
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I’m younger and am anal about cleaning my guns. Sometimes not the same day as they were shot, but definitely within the week. I only shoot what I’m willing to clean. However there is such a thing as over cleaning. I focus on barrel first, then action / internals. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 3:44:59 PM EST
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I just keep adding lube as necessary until im bored one day and give them a cleaning. Never run into any issues with that course of action.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 3:47:07 PM EST
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My idea of cleaning guns is adding more oil. Some of my ARs that only see suppressed use have carbon sludge leaking out of them, they're disgusting.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 3:49:44 PM EST
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Assuming you’re my age or older. When I was a kid my Marine dad made me clean guns after shooting too. At the time, just about all primers and many powders were corrosive and would screw your gun up if you didn’t clean it quickly.
Today, powders and primers are much better. Short of actual Black Powder, you’ll not find non-milsurp powder that’s corrosive and primers don’t even use mercury any more. You can go 100s of rounds without the need to clean and with some guns, 1000s. Honestly, if you go long periods without cleaning, you will spend some real time cleaning the gunk and carbon off and out. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:00:16 PM EST
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It's completely unnecessary to clean guns every time you shoot them. It's an irrational hold over from corrosive powders and primers. As far as scrubbing rifle bores goes, frequent cleaning does more harm than good. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:09:43 PM EST
[#9]
But, but, but, he doesn't even clean his glock!
OP, you funny |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:15:02 PM EST
[#10]
It's cute you think this is unique to younger generations. Most old guys I know haven't cleaned their guns in decades.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:21:27 PM EST
[#11]
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My idea of cleaning guns is adding more oil. Some of my ARs that only see suppressed use have carbon sludge leaking out of them, they're disgusting. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:28:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should send it back. It might have already been corroded. There's no way it rusted in two days in a climate controlled room. There is nothing chemical about shooting modern ammo that would accelerate corrosion like that. Alternatively, what you're seeing in the bore isn't corrosion. I had never heard about any moly issues and thought the bullet lube would buy an extra day. This was the common bullet lube and not coated bullets. Lyman claims it was because I hadn't immediately cleaned and left the suppressor on trapping moisture in the barrel. In 20 years I was the "first" case they had heard of. Which brings me to my next point. Unless you pull up the MSDS to see what the ingredients are, we are all trusting on the manufacturers. That goes for the cleaners too. How the fuck anyone can sell a product that is hydroscopic (Lyman) without a warning is beyond me but they do. Not cleaning by the end of the day cost me my first barrel in 40 years. Guns that WERE cleaned also got barrel damage as the rem oil patches didn't protect good enough so the moly stuck/plated in the bore drew moisture. 3 other barrels/ crowns showed minor pitting in the last 6". One needs a special cleaner just to remove moly in general. Bore Tech Moly Magic. The whole experience made me buy a bunch of Bore Tech products. They all worked as advertised. This was in the last few weeks. I started a thread a few weeks ago about the ordeal. If nothing else at least run an oiled patch down the bore. JMO. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:30:24 PM EST
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Both my two kids are adults, And I think we are at the point where they avoid going shooting, just so they don't have to clean their guns. A young guy at work recently got his permit. Bought a Glock 19 , I asked him if he cleaned it. Nope! Doesn't even own a cleaning kit!. When I was growing up and got into guns, I was taught to clean them as soon as possible. It was kinda like riding a horse and when you got back to the stable you fed and watered the horse. I have shown my kids how to clean them, and that it should only take like 20 mins. to do the job. Another plus is when you clean a gun you may catch a part that has broken or a screw gettting loose etc. I really don't understand this new generation. They want the show, but don't want to pay for the price of admission. Way back in the cowboy days firearms were made from rust prone steel. The finish on the firearms was not very durable at all and did little to protect against rust. They used black powder (corrosive residue) and primers which left a corrosive residue as well. So if you didn't clean your guns after shooting them you would end up with a rusted up mess in short order. Then we switched to smokeless powder, which is not corrosive but kept using the corrosive primers. Cleaning was still important even though the finishes had (sometimes) improved. And then we got rid of the corrosive primers. This was, I guess, in the 50s or so. So, up to that point everyone had been taught to clean your guns every time you shot them. And many guns still had blued finishes and needed frequent cleaning. But, over the years since then things have changed. Many guns today are either nitrided, stainless, often stainless and nitrided, or have a phosphate finish. That makes them very, very resistant to corrosion and nothing in the powder is going to cause corrosion. Too much gunk can cause malfunctions it's true. But this shouldn't be an issue until hundreds of rounds have been fired. Bottom line, we don't really need to clean modern firearms with modern finishes that much. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:40:02 PM EST
[#14]
Bore snake is my friend. Run the Boresnake, add light oil in the appropriate spots and wipe it down. Agree that guns made in recent years do not need constant cleaning after each trip to the range and I am one of the older guys here.
For me personally, the guns for PD are shot regularly and inspected regularly. I do tend to maybe take just a little more time/care with them than the others. As always, YMMV and that is OK. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 4:43:28 PM EST
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Sometimes I go shooting just so I can clean a gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sometimes I avoid going shooting because I don't feel like cleaning my gun.  |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:07:03 PM EST
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I am in the "it depends" category. Today I took one target rifle and one pistol from my cool home into humidity well above 50% (weather station said 70%) and temps near 90F. Moisture condensed on every surface; enough moisture that the scope was not usable until the scope temperature was closer to ambient. Those guns were cleaned when I got back inside the house as humidity and gunfire residue can lead to corrosion. The bores were my biggest concern, and I ran a few passes on each barrel with bore snakes with G96. Took me less than twenty minutes for both guns, including my prep work and clean up afterwards.
If the humidity was lower, all I might have done was wipe down the guns before returning them to the safe. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:08:15 PM EST
[#17]
I deep clean my stuff maybe once or twice a year. Otherwise I just wipe down the bolt/chamber on ARs and let it roll.
Except my carry guns, I am kinda OCD about them. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:11:11 PM EST
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It's cute you think this is unique to younger generations. Most old guys I know haven't cleaned their guns in decades. I start shooting and the cases are landing on my head until I spayed some oil in it. Later I was clearing and asked...when is the last time it was cleaned? He chucked and said sometime in the 80s 
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:15:27 PM EST
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It's just like the new cars, you don't even need to change the oil. That's what they make duct tape for- covering over the dash lights.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:17:08 PM EST
[#20]
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It's just like the new cars, you don't even need to change the oil. That's what they make duct tape for- covering over the dash lights. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:18:49 PM EST
[#21]
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It's just like the new cars, you don't even need to change the oil. That's what they make duct tape for- covering over the dash lights. 
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:45:29 PM EST
[#22]
Only gun I clean after every shooting is my ccw.
My ars and the others is when I get around to it.. I just cleaned my 16" ar a few weeks ago, had probably 3k rounds on it since the cleaning before, it's at about 1k rounds right now since then |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:49:56 PM EST
[#23]
My dad breed into us boys the first thing you did when you got home was clean your gun, your game, then eat. I live by that philosophy. My guns stay cleaned.
Take care of your firearms and they will take care of you. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 5:57:12 PM EST
[#24]
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It's completely unnecessary to clean guns every time you shoot them. It's an irrational hold over from corrosive powders and primers. As far as scrubbing rifle bores goes, frequent cleaning does more harm than good. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 6:03:05 PM EST
[#25]
You guys are making my point for me, I clean or sell my guns every 5,000 rounds or ~5 years whichever comes first.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 10:15:22 PM EST
[#26]
I have people at work offer to pay me to clean their firearms
I don't get it?? I actually enjoy cleaning my firearms and probably do it more than necessary 
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Posted: 7/4/2019 10:20:44 PM EST
[#27]
Newer designs are much more reliable and have better machine tolerances across the board. I would wager the excessive cleaning also had to do with blame resting on poor cleaning vs a shit build
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Posted: 7/4/2019 10:23:23 PM EST
[#28]
I always clean and lube my firearms after shooting but usually just a oily cloth and run a bore snake down the barrel.
Not like my dad who would go shooting for 15 minutes and spend an hour cleaning. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 10:52:13 PM EST
[#29]
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I love cleaning my guns ... am I nuts? |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 10:57:28 PM EST
[#30]
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I've found that as long as the lubricant keeps the carbon in suspension, it's easy enough to wipe off. Just keep adding oil and wiping sludge off as needed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My idea of cleaning guns is adding more oil. Some of my ARs that only see suppressed use have carbon sludge leaking out of them, they're disgusting. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 11:14:48 PM EST
[#31]
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Both my two kids are adults, And I think we are at the point where they avoid going shooting, just so they don't have to clean their guns. A young guy at work recently got his permit. Bought a Glock 19 , I asked him if he cleaned it. Nope! Doesn't even own a cleaning kit!. When I was growing up and got into guns, I was taught to clean them as soon as possible. It was kinda like riding a horse and when you got back to the stable you fed and watered the horse. I have shown my kids how to clean them, and that it should only take like 20 mins. to do the job. Another plus is when you clean a gun you may catch a part that has broken or a screw gettting loose etc. I really don't understand this new generation. They want the show, but don't want to pay for the price of admission. There was lot of discussion about guys over cleaning their guns with harsh cleaners and brutal rods/brushes to the point of practically wearing them down prematurely, scrubbing the ever loving shit out of them So, naturally by 2019, everyone has compensated by basically never cleaning the guns again.
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Posted: 7/4/2019 11:25:50 PM EST
[#32]
Wait. You mean they're not self-cleaning and throwing them in mom's dishwasher isn't good enough?
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Posted: 7/4/2019 11:28:14 PM EST
[#33]
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Sometimes I avoid going shooting because I don't feel like cleaning my gun. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 11:32:12 PM EST
[#34]
Wait...your supposed to clean them?
If I cleaned all mine it would probably take days. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 11:34:53 PM EST
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I clean when accuracy degrades or the guns stops functioning, whichever comes first. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 11:40:12 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Way back in 2008-2010, There was lot of discussion about guys over cleaning their guns with harsh cleaners and brutal rods/brushes to the point of practically wearing them down prematurely, scrubbing the ever loving shit out of them So, naturally by 2019, everyone has compensated by basically never cleaning the guns again. |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 11:46:14 PM EST
[#37]
I clean my guns when they get too dirty to function
Wipe down the bcg and the internals of the upper, call it a day |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 12:16:02 AM EST
[#38]
I used to shoot a lot of 5.45 Russian ammo that was corrosive so I had to detail clean that AR every time I shot it. I usually ended up cleaning some or all of my other guns too since I had all the stuff out already, so I'd end up spending 2+ hours cleaning guns after maybe 2-3 hours at the range and firing maybe 100-200 rounds through the gun that needed the cleaning.
I hated cleaning guns back then and I still do now. I do it much less often now since I sold off all that corrosive ammo and I have no worries or problems, my guns all still work just fine. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 1:58:21 AM EST
[#39]
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sometimes I put on an action flick and clean guns just for giggles and shits. 
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Posted: 7/5/2019 2:02:22 AM EST
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Do you change the oil each time you drive your automobile ?
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Posted: 7/5/2019 2:11:14 AM EST
[#41]
Every once in a while I'll take her into the shower, split her in half and fill her full of shaving cream...dirty dirty gurl
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Posted: 7/5/2019 5:26:56 AM EST
[#42]
I'm not sure I've ever seen a gun malfunction from fouling. Carbon is kind of a natural lubricant.
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Posted: 7/5/2019 5:50:37 AM EST
[#43]
i clean mine all the time. If you think you doing damage to it by cleaning you are doing it wrong.
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Posted: 7/5/2019 5:58:49 AM EST
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Do you change the oil each time you drive your automobile ? Made a believer out of me. To this day I keep the oil changes up on my vehicles like a religion. Guns too... Why in the world you'd want to leave any old lube & abrasive particles in the gun to keep acting on the parts to increase wear is beyond me. That's like saying why bother to wipe your ass, more shit is just going to come out of it anyway...
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Posted: 7/5/2019 6:04:04 AM EST
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I have had several guns rust after not being cleaned, the air here is humid as shit.
I also don't shoot a lot so they may sit for quite some time. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 6:52:47 AM EST
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FUDD thread |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 6:57:40 AM EST
[#47]
I keep my equipment squared-away. Clean, lube and inspect firearms. No reason not to.
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Posted: 7/5/2019 7:00:52 AM EST
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It's like religion and politics, to far either way and you have issues. You don't have to white glove it or throw mud on it for pics and never touch it. Know the system and what you need to do to take care of it. Yeah, in Florida, a wipe down of the externals, etc with a good protectant is important.
Regardless of where you live, I always laugh when I see the threads "my gun is covered in rust!" or "my bore is pitted" Well, I wonder why? The saying"Horse, Saddle, Man" ring a bell? |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 7:01:31 AM EST
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I keep my equipment squared-away. Clean, lube and inspect firearms. No reason not to. |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 7:02:33 AM EST
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I buy nice guns that just work. I don't clean them till I get around to it sometimes that takes a while. They aren't little bitches that require pampering everytime |
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