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Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:45:44 PM EDT
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I'm honestly thinking about hunting down a Carrera T, I'm sure it's plenty fast and comfortable.
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That's my impression.  The whole GT2, GT3 and GT3RS lineup of cars seem like they would be awesome to take to a track, but a lot less comfortable to just go for a nice drive in.  Something like a GTS or a Turbo seems like it is "fast enough" for anything you want, but still a somewhat reasonable daily driver.  I use the GTS as a daily driver, so it's all about driving to work, going to the grocery store and post office, etc.  ... but it is still a ridiculously fast car, if you want to use it that way, or take it to a track.


I'm honestly thinking about hunting down a Carrera T, I'm sure it's plenty fast and comfortable.
@Hulley one of the YouTube guys I follow from the UK just did a trip across Australia in his Carrera T. Seems like the best all around 911.
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:47:04 PM EDT
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Are you a Jack Baruth fan?

If someone asked me the answer to this thread with the caveat that I would have to daily drive it, a V6 Accord would be higher on my list than I'd care to admit. It's reasonably fun, and it can actually hold together.
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:48:32 PM EDT
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@Hulley one of the YouTube guys I follow from the UK just did a trip across Australia in his Carrera T. Seems like the best all around 911.
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This guy?

Our 5,000 mile Journey Across Australia [#DriveTheWorld 1/4]
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:48:55 PM EDT
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997 GT3RS 4.0

It would be a nice upgrade from my poverty 997.1 regular GT3.
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991.2 GT3 with the 991.1 sportdesign kit.

Basically this

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With gt3 internals and badged as "911" and in Carmine Red.
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Uh you could just buy a gt3 touring and change the badge
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Fiberglass of course with the 427/500hp option.
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997 GT3RS 4.0

It would be a nice upgrade from my poverty 997.1 regular GT3.
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That really is my dream car but I'm afraid I wouldn't drive it as much to due it being so rare.
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Subaru 22B

Subaru homologation car, I have owned a few WRX's and currently have a blobeye (2004). So I know the in's and out's and relatively easy to work on, parts are plentiful as many parts commonality through the different subaru platforms.

Plus true all wheel drive so I can take her almost any where. She was indeed a true rally car. I'd run it in tarmac spec though and not gravel.

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Lol I was just thinking that - I'm entirely a Toyota guy but the quinesstial rally car is a B2 Coupe.



First thought - I'd want something historically important, Group B. But thinking about John Dixon's 959 - I'd hate myself if I toasted Mikkolas, and B cars ain't real roadable. But a Group 4 car upgraded, I'd risk that.

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Was Mikkola raced, used as a recce (right up my alley) and gets you most of what you want without to much historical baggage.  Lol prolly not but I'd still risk it
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:52:32 PM EDT
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That really is my dream car but I'm afraid I wouldn't drive it as much to due it being so rare.
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It's still just a 911.  I'd drive it a lot compared to say a CGT.
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Uh you could just buy a gt3 touring and change the badge
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Not with the aerokit I want.

Love ducktail spoilers.


Also want the PDK over the manual.  

Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:53:21 PM EDT
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Well since it is given to me.......(meaning I didn't have to run through 87 import specialist to get denied to enter the country...)


M550d -xDrive with 6 speed manual in snapper rocks blue (do not think they made that paint color for a 5 series...)

Most other stuff I dream of I would never drive it or couldn't afford the maintenance (this is a BMW though and in .87 years after the warranty is up would regret my choice...).

I would almost go with this though... my forever dream car...was about 3 clicks away from getting one, purchase price around 40k at the time I was looking.  I couldn't go see it in person and they had another buyer on site.  I either lost out or got really lucky...


It would take away from the value but might do an LS swap to just keep up with todays stationwagon though....  Plus part cost for the engine would be a killer if I kept it factory.
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:55:02 PM EDT
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up armored humvee with CROWS



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LO23 Dart Might have to replace the 5mph bumpers and add seat belts to be street legal. Notice when this grumpy bastard fire up, people quit bidding on the chevelle
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I don't think it's so much that they stopped bidding, I think suddenly no-one could hear a fucking thing.
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Well since it is given to me.......(meaning I didn't have to run through 87 import specialist to get denied to enter the country...)
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M550d -xDrive with 6 speed manual in snapper rocks blue (do not think they made that paint color for a 5 series...)

Most other stuff I dream of I would never drive it or couldn't afford the maintenance (this is a BMW though and in .87 years after the warranty is up would regret my choice...).

I would almost go with this though... my forever dream car...was about 3 clicks away from getting one, purchase price around 40k at the time I was looking.  I couldn't go see it in person and they had another buyer on site.  I either lost out or got really lucky...
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/55d7b047e4b01315a1b7013b/1463688702912-IAO2PZ0N5PPD0WZM790D/A01.JPG?format=1000w&content-type=image%2Fjpeg

It would take away from the value but might do an LS swap to just keep up with todays stationwagon though....  Plus part cost for the engine would be a killer if I kept it factory.
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Very nice! I'd love an older Ferrari like a 308 GTS or even a 328 but I'm afraid the maintenance would kill me, seems like they are constantly breaking.
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Cadillac CTS-V wagon (wagon!) 6 speed manual
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For some of you that dream of an older classic car, let me be the unpleasant cold shower of reality that is pissing down on your parade.

I owned my dream car - which was a 1971-73 Mustang (351 Cobra Jet V8, Ram Air, etc.).  It was awesome.  It was in perfect condition, and everything work - including the A/C.  I would drive in on the weekends, and have a HUGE grin on my face the entire time.  It made a wonderful noise, and it was everything I imagined.  This one was a TINY bit souped up (electronic ignition and some engine mods, but otherwise very correct) so it was also pretty damn fast off the line.

Then it developed a weird electrical fault.  Sometimes when idling - typically at a red light - the engine would just die, and refuse to restart.  I had experts look at it, and I tried to repair it myself - tried a variety of things.  It took a LONG time to figure it out (it eventually involved rebuilding the distributor).  Meanwhile, I got stranded at least five or six times (after thinking it was fixed).  Sometimes I got towed, and sometimes I tried to fix it, and sometimes I waited it out for about an hour - and then it would eventually start again.  

So that kind of killed a lot of the enjoyment - for about a year and a half I was unable to drive it with any enjoyment, because I would be constantly nervous that it would suddenly die.  Instead of a relaxing weekend drive, it was either stressful, or it was stressful AND infuriating (when it would die again).

After that was FINALLY fixed, it developed a weird overheating problem.  For no apparent reason, the engine would suddenly start to overheat.  Sometimes it would stay really high, and other times it would eventually drop back down again.  There didn't seem to be a particular pattern at all.

Again, this RUINED any enjoyment of just going out for a fun drive.  Instead of relaxing and enjoying the car, I would be constantly staring at the temperature gauge - and would be paranoid that it would suddenly overheat.  Once it did, I would get super-worried and try to limp home.  This problem literally took years to figure out, and involved replacing a lot of parts, and concerns about a cracked block, etc.  

So although I had my actual dream car - eventually the joy of owning it turned into hassle, annoyance and irritation - and literally for the last three-four years that I owned it, I was unable to enjoy driving it.  

Of course, the GOOD thing about something like a classic Mustang is that it is relatively cheap to repair and maintain, since ALL of the parts are currently being made and available at pretty low cost, and the cars are relatively simple to work on.  Imagine having my experience, but with a 60s Ferrari or Porsche or Aston Martin or something like that.  The cost would be ruinous.  

Anyway - here's a picture of the gorgeous old girl:
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Every parade is spoiled if you keep this car for life....either A you aren't going to live long enough for this to happen or B just give it time...
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:59:30 PM EDT
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For some of you that dream of an older classic car, let me be the unpleasant cold shower of reality that is pissing down on your parade.

I owned my dream car - which was a 1971-73 Mustang (351 Cobra Jet V8, Ram Air, etc.).  It was awesome.  It was in perfect condition, and everything work - including the A/C.  I would drive in on the weekends, and have a HUGE grin on my face the entire time.  It made a wonderful noise, and it was everything I imagined.  This one was a TINY bit souped up (electronic ignition and some engine mods, but otherwise very correct) so it was also pretty damn fast off the line.

Then it developed a weird electrical fault.  Sometimes when idling - typically at a red light - the engine would just die, and refuse to restart.  I had experts look at it, and I tried to repair it myself - tried a variety of things.  It took a LONG time to figure it out (it eventually involved rebuilding the distributor).  Meanwhile, I got stranded at least five or six times (after thinking it was fixed).  Sometimes I got towed, and sometimes I tried to fix it, and sometimes I waited it out for about an hour - and then it would eventually start again.  

So that kind of killed a lot of the enjoyment - for about a year and a half I was unable to drive it with any enjoyment, because I would be constantly nervous that it would suddenly die.  Instead of a relaxing weekend drive, it was either stressful, or it was stressful AND infuriating (when it would die again).

After that was FINALLY fixed, it developed a weird overheating problem.  For no apparent reason, the engine would suddenly start to overheat.  Sometimes it would stay really high, and other times it would eventually drop back down again.  There didn't seem to be a particular pattern at all.

Again, this RUINED any enjoyment of just going out for a fun drive.  Instead of relaxing and enjoying the car, I would be constantly staring at the temperature gauge - and would be paranoid that it would suddenly overheat.  Once it did, I would get super-worried and try to limp home.  This problem literally took years to figure out, and involved replacing a lot of parts, and concerns about a cracked block, etc.  

So although I had my actual dream car - eventually the joy of owning it turned into hassle, annoyance and irritation - and literally for the last three-four years that I owned it, I was unable to enjoy driving it.  

Of course, the GOOD thing about something like a classic Mustang is that it is relatively cheap to repair and maintain, since ALL of the parts are currently being made and available at pretty low cost, and the cars are relatively simple to work on.  Imagine having my experience, but with a 60s Ferrari or Porsche or Aston Martin or something like that.  The cost would be ruinous.  

Anyway - here's a picture of the gorgeous old girl:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/32274.JPG

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To play devils advocate:

For the purposes of this thread where we are keeping these cars for a lifetime, all of the cars mentioned here will eventually get to this phase. I don't know entirely what the future brings, but right now I would envision that it's going to be easier to keep a 70s muscle car going than a modern day Porsche in forty years. There is just a whole lot less going on on the Mustang.

That said I'd still take the Porsche and certainly try my hardest at keeping it going.
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 4:59:51 PM EDT
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AC Cobra. Probably just a kit car.

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Currently installing a T56 Magnum in mine. TKO's no likely 7500 rpm shift points.

To answer the op

GT40 MK1

Either Tornado or RCR for the kit. Make it a copy of 1075/1076 with the 14/15/16 inch wide rear wheels.


That after my Pitts model 12 is flying....
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1969 Camaro Z28 with JL8 rear disc brake package and factory crossram and headers in the trunk.
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With optional off road cam, chambered exhaust and ZL-2 hood if you want to go all out.

I'd be happy with the '69 Z/28 I had in the 70's with original DZ engine, rally yellow with black vinyl top.
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For some of you that dream of an older classic car, let me be the unpleasant cold shower of reality that is pissing down on your parade.

I owned my dream car - which was a 1971-73 Mustang (351 Cobra Jet V8, Ram Air, etc.).  It was awesome.  It was in perfect condition, and everything work - including the A/C.  I would drive in on the weekends, and have a HUGE grin on my face the entire time.  It made a wonderful noise, and it was everything I imagined.  This one was a TINY bit souped up (electronic ignition and some engine mods, but otherwise very correct) so it was also pretty damn fast off the line.

Then it developed a weird electrical fault.  Sometimes when idling - typically at a red light - the engine would just die, and refuse to restart.  I had experts look at it, and I tried to repair it myself - tried a variety of things.  It took a LONG time to figure it out (it eventually involved rebuilding the distributor).  Meanwhile, I got stranded at least five or six times (after thinking it was fixed).  Sometimes I got towed, and sometimes I tried to fix it, and sometimes I waited it out for about an hour - and then it would eventually start again.  

So that kind of killed a lot of the enjoyment - for about a year and a half I was unable to drive it with any enjoyment, because I would be constantly nervous that it would suddenly die.  Instead of a relaxing weekend drive, it was either stressful, or it was stressful AND infuriating (when it would die again).

After that was FINALLY fixed, it developed a weird overheating problem.  For no apparent reason, the engine would suddenly start to overheat.  Sometimes it would stay really high, and other times it would eventually drop back down again.  There didn't seem to be a particular pattern at all.

Again, this RUINED any enjoyment of just going out for a fun drive.  Instead of relaxing and enjoying the car, I would be constantly staring at the temperature gauge - and would be paranoid that it would suddenly overheat.  Once it did, I would get super-worried and try to limp home.  This problem literally took years to figure out, and involved replacing a lot of parts, and concerns about a cracked block, etc.  

So although I had my actual dream car - eventually the joy of owning it turned into hassle, annoyance and irritation - and literally for the last three-four years that I owned it, I was unable to enjoy driving it.  

Of course, the GOOD thing about something like a classic Mustang is that it is relatively cheap to repair and maintain, since ALL of the parts are currently being made and available at pretty low cost, and the cars are relatively simple to work on.  Imagine having my experience, but with a 60s Ferrari or Porsche or Aston Martin or something like that.  The cost would be ruinous.  

Anyway - here's a picture of the gorgeous old girl:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/32274.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/31506.JPG
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Considering the rules of this thread, a classic American car is actually a really good answer precisely because of the parts support and ease of repairs. The engine bays are huge, and the parts catalogs are ridiculous.

Yes, they will need more attention than modern cars... assuming you don't resto-mod with an LS, disc brakes, and other goodies. But the work is doable by almost anyone with tools.
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C5 Corvette with a 527 LS engine. Setup for street/strip.

Yes, a 527.

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1962 Impala ss bubble top. White with red interior
1955 Chevy
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Are you a Jack Baruth fan?

If someone asked me the answer to this thread with the caveat that I would have to daily drive it, a V6 Accord would be higher on my list than I'd care to admit. It's reasonably fun, and it can actually hold together.
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Are you a Jack Baruth fan?

If someone asked me the answer to this thread with the caveat that I would have to daily drive it, a V6 Accord would be higher on my list than I'd care to admit. It's reasonably fun, and it can actually hold together.

Entirely correct - all points
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Not with the aerokit I want.

Love ducktail spoilers.


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PDK, gross
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 5:07:54 PM EDT
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High level of completion Superperformance or FactoryFive Daytona.

Hard part would be deciding on if to have a 427 small block Ford or modern tech like a 5.2 Aluminator.

Also, some kind of air conditioning system for the foot box so that my feet do not get cooked/bpiled alive from the exhaust manifold.

Otherwise I would take a Ring Brothers 67-68 Fastback.
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Very nice! I'd love an older Ferrari like a 308 GTS or even a 328 but I'm afraid the maintenance would kill me, seems like they are constantly breaking.
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Well since it is given to me.......(meaning I didn't have to run through 87 import specialist to get denied to enter the country...)
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M550d -xDrive with 6 speed manual in snapper rocks blue (do not think they made that paint color for a 5 series...)

Most other stuff I dream of I would never drive it or couldn't afford the maintenance (this is a BMW though and in .87 years after the warranty is up would regret my choice...).

I would almost go with this though... my forever dream car...was about 3 clicks away from getting one, purchase price around 40k at the time I was looking.  I couldn't go see it in person and they had another buyer on site.  I either lost out or got really lucky...
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/55d7b047e4b01315a1b7013b/1463688702912-IAO2PZ0N5PPD0WZM790D/A01.JPG?format=1000w&content-type=image%2Fjpeg

It would take away from the value but might do an LS swap to just keep up with todays stationwagon though....  Plus part cost for the engine would be a killer if I kept it factory.


Very nice! I'd love an older Ferrari like a 308 GTS or even a 328 but I'm afraid the maintenance would kill me, seems like they are constantly breaking.


They are very high maintenance.

What’s the annual mileage minimum for your challenge?
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Considering the rules of this thread, a classic American car is actually a really good answer precisely because of the parts support and ease of repairs. The engine bays are huge, and the parts catalogs are ridiculous.

Yes, they will need more attention than modern cars... assuming you don't resto-mod with an LS, disc brakes, and other goodies. But the work is doable by almost anyone with tools.
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Even going into the future, I would expect a classic Mustang will be hell of a lot easier to resto-mod into a modern drivetrain (whatever that may be in 30 years) than a modern Porsche will be.
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To play devils advocate:

For the purposes of this thread where we are keeping these cars for a lifetime, all of the cars mentioned here will eventually get to this phase. I don't know entirely what the future brings, but right now I would envision that it's going to be easier to keep a 70s muscle car going than a modern day Porsche in forty years. There is just a whole lot less going on on the Mustang.

That said I'd still take the Porsche and certainly try my hardest at keeping it going.
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Yeah, I thought of that after I posted, mainly the idea is something you'd keep as long as possible. There are a few Porsches that are old as hell and still beng driven quite often, some dude has a 356 with over million miles on it.
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They are very high maintenance.

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No minimum, I figured that if this was a car you'd keep, hopefully that would encourage you to get out and drive it. I've always driven my cars everywhere, my last fun car was a 68' Chevelle and I drove it as much as possible.
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Really hard to not answer some sort of Porsche given the rules.  I would also put the Lotus Evora up there.  Toyota drivetrain.  Most parts easy to come by.  

The Audi R8 V10 might be up there too.
I could live with a First-Gen NSX



The car I really want it to be is a Testarossa knowing that I would be working on it myself.  However, the real answer for me is probably some sort of Corvette, probably one of the C7 Zr1s.




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Are you a Jack Baruth fan?

If someone asked me the answer to this thread with the caveat that I would have to daily drive it, a V6 Accord would be higher on my list than I'd care to admit. It's reasonably fun, and it can actually hold together.
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The gear boxes/clutches in Hondas are very nice too
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Even going into the future, I would expect a classic Mustang will be hell of a lot easier to resto-mod into a modern drivetrain (whatever that may be in 30 years) than a modern Porsche will be.
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Considering the rules of this thread, a classic American car is actually a really good answer precisely because of the parts support and ease of repairs. The engine bays are huge, and the parts catalogs are ridiculous.

Yes, they will need more attention than modern cars... assuming you don't resto-mod with an LS, disc brakes, and other goodies. But the work is doable by almost anyone with tools.

Even going into the future, I would expect a classic Mustang will be hell of a lot easier to resto-mod into a modern drivetrain (whatever that may be in 30 years) than a modern Porsche will be.


There's also the matter of body and interior parts.

A lot of the polymers are more likely to get brittle and crack or break with time, and those will be the parts that will be harder to find/fix.

I could live with an old school small block, but think I'd quickly tire of the old brakes and the floppy jalopy suspension, so I would probably want a mild pro touring type build (with reasonable wheels) to get modern discs and coilovers on it.
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I think a lot of guys are missing this.

I wonder what the maintenance and repair costs are for something like a first gen NSX.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AcuraNSX-05-cropped.jpg/1200px-AcuraNSX-05-cropped.jpg

Failing that, if I was looking for some kind of sports car, I think I'd be looking at a LHD converted R34 Skyline or a C8 Corvette.

Also with these considerations, I think the guys talking about Power Wagons and other truck type things might be on to something.

Any old truck with a Cummins swap or maybe a big body Bronco resto-modded with a new Ford 7.3L Godzilla would also be cool.
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Definitely sign me up for an OG NSX. I’d want a Targa 6-speed car, and it’ll be affordable enough to own and run that I can pay for upgrades and mods without financial risk. C8 ‘Vette in second, and R8 in third. Make my dream mid-engined, please.
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A 1961 or 1962 Corvette...the last year for quad headlights but the first years for the tucked, Stingray backend and taillights.  It would not be a collector, restored car.  It would be somewhat restomodded with a 383 stroked FI small block, modded 700R4 tranny, suspension upgrades, and brake upgrades.  Not a crazy restomod, but critical elements that will improve driveability and reliability.  I'd even take a kit car from one of the better suppliers out there.  I would want to do 90% of all the work as I have the tools and experience to do it.  Those two years of Corvette are the best looking IMO.
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For some of you that dream of an older classic car, let me be the unpleasant cold shower of reality that is pissing down on your parade.

I owned my dream car - which was a 1971-73 Mustang (351 Cobra Jet V8, Ram Air, etc.).  It was awesome.  It was in perfect condition, and everything work - including the A/C.  I would drive in on the weekends, and have a HUGE grin on my face the entire time.  It made a wonderful noise, and it was everything I imagined.  This one was a TINY bit souped up (electronic ignition and some engine mods, but otherwise very correct) so it was also pretty damn fast off the line.

Then it developed a weird electrical fault.  Sometimes when idling - typically at a red light - the engine would just die, and refuse to restart.  I had experts look at it, and I tried to repair it myself - tried a variety of things.  It took a LONG time to figure it out (it eventually involved rebuilding the distributor).  Meanwhile, I got stranded at least five or six times (after thinking it was fixed).  Sometimes I got towed, and sometimes I tried to fix it, and sometimes I waited it out for about an hour - and then it would eventually start again.  

So that kind of killed a lot of the enjoyment - for about a year and a half I was unable to drive it with any enjoyment, because I would be constantly nervous that it would suddenly die.  Instead of a relaxing weekend drive, it was either stressful, or it was stressful AND infuriating (when it would die again).

After that was FINALLY fixed, it developed a weird overheating problem.  For no apparent reason, the engine would suddenly start to overheat.  Sometimes it would stay really high, and other times it would eventually drop back down again.  There didn't seem to be a particular pattern at all.

Again, this RUINED any enjoyment of just going out for a fun drive.  Instead of relaxing and enjoying the car, I would be constantly staring at the temperature gauge - and would be paranoid that it would suddenly overheat.  Once it did, I would get super-worried and try to limp home.  This problem literally took years to figure out, and involved replacing a lot of parts, and concerns about a cracked block, etc.  

So although I had my actual dream car - eventually the joy of owning it turned into hassle, annoyance and irritation - and literally for the last three-four years that I owned it, I was unable to enjoy driving it.  

Of course, the GOOD thing about something like a classic Mustang is that it is relatively cheap to repair and maintain, since ALL of the parts are currently being made and available at pretty low cost, and the cars are relatively simple to work on.  Imagine having my experience, but with a 60s Ferrari or Porsche or Aston Martin or something like that.  The cost would be ruinous.  

Anyway - here's a picture of the gorgeous old girl:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/32274.JPG

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Yeah I remember you posting pictures of that a while back. It's basically my dream car too. That or a '69 fastback. I also love the old Mopar pony cars. I have to agree with the hassle though. From my personal experience with older cars, yeah they just have quirks that become impossible to track down. Either that or they nickle and dime you to death.

That's why I'm looking for around a 2014 Mustang GT with low miles to replace my '06 Mustang.  I have the finances in order I just need to find the right car. Also I really don't want to give up the 06 yet. I love the car even though a newer 5.0 will be much better. I wish I had a barn to just leave it in until I die.

I guess if someone was to buy a car for me I would go with a new GT500.

Link Posted: 4/27/2020 5:35:03 PM EDT
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For some of you that dream of an older classic car, let me be the unpleasant cold shower of reality that is pissing down on your parade.

I owned my dream car - which was a 1971-73 Mustang (351 Cobra Jet V8, Ram Air, etc.).  It was awesome.  It was in perfect condition, and everything work - including the A/C.  I would drive in on the weekends, and have a HUGE grin on my face the entire time.  It made a wonderful noise, and it was everything I imagined.  This one was a TINY bit souped up (electronic ignition and some engine mods, but otherwise very correct) so it was also pretty damn fast off the line.

Then it developed a weird electrical fault.  Sometimes when idling - typically at a red light - the engine would just die, and refuse to restart.  I had experts look at it, and I tried to repair it myself - tried a variety of things.  It took a LONG time to figure it out (it eventually involved rebuilding the distributor).  Meanwhile, I got stranded at least five or six times (after thinking it was fixed).  Sometimes I got towed, and sometimes I tried to fix it, and sometimes I waited it out for about an hour - and then it would eventually start again.  

So that kind of killed a lot of the enjoyment - for about a year and a half I was unable to drive it with any enjoyment, because I would be constantly nervous that it would suddenly die.  Instead of a relaxing weekend drive, it was either stressful, or it was stressful AND infuriating (when it would die again).

After that was FINALLY fixed, it developed a weird overheating problem.  For no apparent reason, the engine would suddenly start to overheat.  Sometimes it would stay really high, and other times it would eventually drop back down again.  There didn't seem to be a particular pattern at all.

Again, this RUINED any enjoyment of just going out for a fun drive.  Instead of relaxing and enjoying the car, I would be constantly staring at the temperature gauge - and would be paranoid that it would suddenly overheat.  Once it did, I would get super-worried and try to limp home.  This problem literally took years to figure out, and involved replacing a lot of parts, and concerns about a cracked block, etc.  

So although I had my actual dream car - eventually the joy of owning it turned into hassle, annoyance and irritation - and literally for the last three-four years that I owned it, I was unable to enjoy driving it.  

Of course, the GOOD thing about something like a classic Mustang is that it is relatively cheap to repair and maintain, since ALL of the parts are currently being made and available at pretty low cost, and the cars are relatively simple to work on.  Imagine having my experience, but with a 60s Ferrari or Porsche or Aston Martin or something like that.  The cost would be ruinous.  

Anyway - here's a picture of the gorgeous old girl:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/32274.JPG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/31506.JPG
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I can see the frustration if you don't work on your own cars. For me, the small problems and troubleshooting make it more enjoyable. Driving is a blast and I like working on them just as much.

My pick above is an old school GT40 with a v8. Even a Superformance tribute with the same 427 as original. I would be happy to wrench on it.
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Yep. That.
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No minimum, I figured that if this was a car you'd keep, hopefully that would encourage you to get out and drive it. I've always driven my cars everywhere, my last fun car was a 68' Chevelle and I drove it as much as possible.
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The “keepers clause” makes it interesting. I’ve owned several of my dream cars over the years, but after living with them for a while I dumped them. I still own some.

Here are a couple.




I’m currently wrenching on an old Foxbody that I intended to be a donor for a Cobra kit car, but ive bought so many parts that I’ll likely use it as a Cobra parts testbed and then a base to build White 93 Cobra tribute.



I turn my own wrenches




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The wheel and tire combo on that Ram are way better than the ones on your current truck.

I think you've mentioned the possibility of upgrading to a new truck sometime soon. Use that one for inspiration.
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Thats $100k+ for the AEV package
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 5:45:35 PM EDT
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Alfa Stradale
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I can see the frustration if you don't work on your own cars. For me, the small problems and troubleshooting make it more enjoyable. Driving is a blast and I like working on them just as much.

My pick above is an old school GT40 with a v8. Even a Superformance tribute with the same 427 as original. I would be happy to wrench on it.
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There is enjoying working on cars, and then there is getting towed home for the third time in a row because that electrical problem you could have sworn you fixed decided you were wrong on that thought in the middle of an intersection.
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 5:50:32 PM EDT
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Huracan Performante.
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There's also the matter of body and interior parts.

A lot of the polymers are more likely to get brittle and crack or break with time, and those will be the parts that will be harder to find/fix.

I could live with an old school small block, but think I'd quickly tire of the old brakes and the floppy jalopy suspension, so I would probably want a mild pro touring type build (with reasonable wheels) to get modern discs and coilovers on it.
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The ride on my C4 is not the best but it doesn't bother me.  The brakes though, are horrible.  You have to mean it with the brake pedal. When I switch between driving it for a few days to a modern car, I nearly throw myself through the windshield at the first stop sign.

It isn't just a my car thing, it's a known thing with them.
Link Posted: 4/27/2020 5:53:34 PM EDT
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Not a car but my dream vehicle since I was a kid was the Hummer H1.  More specifically the H1 Alpha.
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AC Cobra. Probably just a kit car.


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That'd be my choice, modern everything and no guilt at running it hard.


Link Posted: 4/27/2020 5:55:47 PM EDT
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2020 Jeep Wrangler JLU. Hopefully will have one in the next few months.

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I’d readily go with something like this or a Lancia Stratos Stradale or 037 Stradale, but the irreplaceable part would bother me.

I wouldn’t drive a piece of irreplaceable automotive history and OP asked for drivers.
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