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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:36:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:36:34 PM EDT
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I had a '70 GTO w/a 400.
The 455 in the T/A is much stronger in a lighter car. I replaced the cam and installed headers on the GTO. Vehicles of that vintage were so easy to work on. I could change out the sparks plug in about an hour. (50/50 reg leaded /1OO LL aviation fuel mix ate the plugs up in no time) Need thicker rear tires than what's on the photo.  |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think a lot of guys are missing this. I wonder what the maintenance and repair costs are for something like a first gen NSX. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AcuraNSX-05-cropped.jpg/1200px-AcuraNSX-05-cropped.jpg Failing that, if I was looking for some kind of sports car, I think I'd be looking at a LHD converted R34 Skyline or a C8 Corvette. Also with these considerations, I think the guys talking about Power Wagons and other truck type things might be on to something. Any old truck with a Cummins swap or maybe a big body Bronco resto-modded with a new Ford 7.3L Godzilla would also be cool. @Bassgasm I own an NSX. Maintenance costs are extremely cheap especially if you can take care of the basic stuff. This year I need to get a bunch of work done that will likely be over $3k (timing belt, valve adjustment, etc.), but that is only once every seven years. Basically you have a 90's supercar that is far cheaper to own and more reliable than an out of warranty BMW 3 series. The fact that the car appreciates is icing on the cake.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:43:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, you’re saying I should pass on that ‘83 911SC for $20k? TC Where you see a SC for $20k? |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:43:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the spirit of following the rules I have to throw out most of the cars that immediately come to mind. I am unwilling to spend a fortune in outsourcing the maintenance and if the car was too expensive I would be afraid to drive and enjoy it. Given those criteria I think I will have to stick with my 1977 911s. The cost of upkeep is within my comfort level (most days) and the repairs my skill level (so far). It certainly isn't fast by todays standards but that flat six still sounds sweet. I have owned it for 36 years already so it is a good bet it isn't going anywhere. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/502236/911S__1__jpg-1389682.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/502236/IMG_4897_jpg-1389683.JPG Very nice! |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:43:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:45:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having to follow your "rules", this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137867/1942_willys_jeep_15610693319f98764daIMG_-1389593.JPG Screw the rules car. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137867/mclaren-f1-chassis-no-63_jpg-1389601.JPG No rules and the McLaren F1 would be it, period. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:52:22 PM EDT
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68 hemi barracuda set up for drag racing ss/aa . Most badass car on the strip . Can’t post pics but check it out . Yes I am an old fuck!
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could have fun for a long time with something like this: https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Porsche-356-Outlaw-5.jpg you, sir, are a man of inestimable taste. have owned a couple of similar models. my favorite car. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:54:51 PM EDT
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BMW E30 M3
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:00:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:04:20 PM EDT
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68 Mustang GT
 Or a late 60s bronco 
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:10:09 PM EDT
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I think a white C8 would do the trick.
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:12:15 PM EDT
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2020 GT500 CFTP Kona Blue with white stripes
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:20:28 PM EDT
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I've had several cool cars. Most times they never quite live up to my expectations once I own them. A few came closer. 77 Grand Prix SJ. 76 240Z. 79 Mercedes 560SEL. 06 750Li. 10 Challenger SRT.
I never got bit by the exotic sports car bug. Closest I ever came was a grey market 79 928 back when it was just a few years old. Probably a good thing that I came up a few dollars short and let it go. For this challenge I'd go with low & slow. All the cost of the build is free, keeping it running every day would be dirt cheap. Hell yeah I'd drive the wheels off it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:22:51 PM EDT
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Been reading this thread off-and-on for a good part of the day. Final answer, I think I just bought it.
My Z3 3.0 led me through a slew of other BMWs, but it was always the first and most fun (335i was damn close  ) Attached FileHated the Bangle butt Z's, with the exception of the Z4M, but still wanted a mid-life crisis convertible. BMW never made an "M" version of my favorite bodystyle, couldn't compete with the Boxster, but they did build a 335 hp GT-ish version 35is. When one popped up on the coast my wife said, "Why don't you buy it?" I think I married her in anticipation of that moment.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:27:07 PM EDT
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No car for me.
1977 Kawasaki KZ1000 “Kwaka” "Nothing a year in the tropics can't fix." - Jim Goose  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAs someone who has spent many years maintaining those... You can't afford it  |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:28:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Been reading this thread off-and-on for a good part of the day. Final answer, I think I just bought it. My Z3 3.0 led me through a slew of other BMWs, but it was always the first and most fun (335i was damn close )https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/457055/Trial1_jpg-1389822.JPG Hated the Bangle butt Z's, with the exception of the Z4M, but still wanted a mid-life crisis convertible. BMW never made an "M" version of my favorite bodystyle, couldn't compete with the Boxster, but they did build a 335 hp GT-ish version 35is. When one popped up on the coast my wife said, "Why don't you buy it?" I think I married her in anticipation of that moment. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/457055/DSC_0313_JPG-1389826.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/457055/DSC_0317_JPG-1389832.JPG The Z3 3.0 was a ton of fun and a pretty good car too! |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:29:42 PM EDT
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A properly done pro touring 71 Camaro would be great. There would be very little on it that I could not keep running myself. I have kept some really rough muscle cars running as daily drivers in the past, so a pro tour would be easier.
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:30:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:34:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A properly done pro touring 71 Camaro would be great. There would be very little on it that I could not keep running myself. I have kept some really rough muscle cars running as daily drivers in the past, so a pro tour would be easier. Bad Penny would make my top 5 for sure. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:35:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:36:37 PM EDT
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I'll take one of these, thank you. Ripsaw EV3-F4 Four Seater
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:40:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I almost got it in metallic purple, but was unwilling to pay the $12k paint-to-sample fee.  Would've been worth it bro |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:42:32 PM EDT
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2011-12 Ferrari 599 GTO
2020 Lamborghini Huracan 2020 One I’ve driver extensively but sadly don’t own  I’d deliver pizza to pay for maintenance if I had to. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:42:58 PM EDT
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With the parameters set in the OP, probably a 1970 Chevelle with everything modernized.
If it has to be a factory car, probably a new Mustang GT500.  
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:45:23 PM EDT
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I don't get excited about cars but I do need something to haul the motorcycles and work around the MX track so I would pick a 2020 Ford F450 Limited:
 Attached FileAnd if I don't win this contest I'll probably end up buying myself a new one in a few years anyways. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:52:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: If you could be given any car, what would it be? Here are the rules (cause everyone likes rules, right?), 1. You are financially responsible for maintaining the car, gas, insurance, repairs etc. The car was free but nothing else. 2. You cannot sell the car to buy a cheaper car and have money left over. 3. This is a car that you would drive to enjoy and not just look at the damn thing. 4. A car that you would have in your possession for the rest of your life. My wife and I make a good living but if someone gave me a Porsche 918, I'd have to sell it, could never afford to keep it. My pick, Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS. The last of the Mezger built engine 911s and before they went to electric steering. I've not driven one of these but they look and sound amazing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187410/997_2_GT3RS_forum__2__jpg-1389281.JPG that is my Dream Car but PTS in Mexico Blue  |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:59:14 PM EDT
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Rule breaker cars: Ferrari F355 F1, and 458 Spyder. Could never afford maintence sched.
Rule follower: 68/69 Charger resto mod, late 80s blazer/ jimmy. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:06:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Z3 3.0 was a ton of fun and a pretty good car too! Space grey metallic, burl interior, black leather, five speed manual and 225 horse. Soft top, but a glass rear window. BMW was still using brake discs specially chosen for the amount of dust they generated, I spent many happy hours trying to keep those wheels clean. Still, for a Florida Gulf Coast car it was incredibly fun...kinda what led me back. Gave my family-guy sq commander a ride home to Niceville one day when his car was in the shop. Got to his house, he turned to me and said, "Why am I driving a Camry?" 
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:09:18 PM EDT
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A yellow 720s
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would've been worth it bro Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I almost got it in metallic purple, but was unwilling to pay the $12k paint-to-sample fee. Would've been worth it bro Nah. I love the yellow.
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:17:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah. I love the yellow. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I almost got it in metallic purple, but was unwilling to pay the $12k paint-to-sample fee. Would've been worth it bro Nah. I love the yellow. Driving your 911 much? |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Driving your 911 much? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I almost got it in metallic purple, but was unwilling to pay the $12k paint-to-sample fee. Would've been worth it bro Nah. I love the yellow. Driving your 911 much? Every time I am out of beer, or need to go to my physical therapist, or to the post office, or the grocery store ... or whatever excuse I come up with. 
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:21:13 PM EDT
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1970 Plymouth Superbird.
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:23:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every time I am out of beer, or need to go to my physical therapist, or to the post office, or the grocery store ... or whatever excuse I come up with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I almost got it in metallic purple, but was unwilling to pay the $12k paint-to-sample fee. Would've been worth it bro Nah. I love the yellow. Driving your 911 much? Every time I am out of beer, or need to go to my physical therapist, or to the post office, or the grocery store ... or whatever excuse I come up with. good - glad to you drive it often |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:25:38 PM EDT
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 Nissan Y61 Patrol Legend Edition |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:27:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:32:35 PM EDT
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I have my dream car...
E46 m3 supercharged and the motor is at the machine shop now for a motor build. After the build I should be putting down around 550 hp to the wheels. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:33:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: good - glad to you drive it often Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I almost got it in metallic purple, but was unwilling to pay the $12k paint-to-sample fee. Would've been worth it bro Nah. I love the yellow. Driving your 911 much? Every time I am out of beer, or need to go to my physical therapist, or to the post office, or the grocery store ... or whatever excuse I come up with. good - glad to you drive it often It is literally my daily driver. Work, groceries, etc. The only time I don’t drive it is if I need the cargo capacity of my SUV, or the weather is very snowy/icy. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:35:35 PM EDT
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2016 Porsche 911r or 2006 Ford GT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:39:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For some of you that dream of an older classic car, let me be the unpleasant cold shower of reality that is pissing down on your parade. I owned my dream car - which was a 1971-73 Mustang (351 Cobra Jet V8, Ram Air, etc.). It was awesome. It was in perfect condition, and everything work - including the A/C. I would drive in on the weekends, and have a HUGE grin on my face the entire time. It made a wonderful noise, and it was everything I imagined. This one was a TINY bit souped up (electronic ignition and some engine mods, but otherwise very correct) so it was also pretty damn fast off the line. Then it developed a weird electrical fault. Sometimes when idling - typically at a red light - the engine would just die, and refuse to restart. I had experts look at it, and I tried to repair it myself - tried a variety of things. It took a LONG time to figure it out (it eventually involved rebuilding the distributor). Meanwhile, I got stranded at least five or six times (after thinking it was fixed). Sometimes I got towed, and sometimes I tried to fix it, and sometimes I waited it out for about an hour - and then it would eventually start again. So that kind of killed a lot of the enjoyment - for about a year and a half I was unable to drive it with any enjoyment, because I would be constantly nervous that it would suddenly die. Instead of a relaxing weekend drive, it was either stressful, or it was stressful AND infuriating (when it would die again). After that was FINALLY fixed, it developed a weird overheating problem. For no apparent reason, the engine would suddenly start to overheat. Sometimes it would stay really high, and other times it would eventually drop back down again. There didn't seem to be a particular pattern at all. Again, this RUINED any enjoyment of just going out for a fun drive. Instead of relaxing and enjoying the car, I would be constantly staring at the temperature gauge - and would be paranoid that it would suddenly overheat. Once it did, I would get super-worried and try to limp home. This problem literally took years to figure out, and involved replacing a lot of parts, and concerns about a cracked block, etc. So although I had my actual dream car - eventually the joy of owning it turned into hassle, annoyance and irritation - and literally for the last three-four years that I owned it, I was unable to enjoy driving it.  Of course, the GOOD thing about something like a classic Mustang is that it is relatively cheap to repair and maintain, since ALL of the parts are currently being made and available at pretty low cost, and the cars are relatively simple to work on. Imagine having my experience, but with a 60s Ferrari or Porsche or Aston Martin or something like that. The cost would be ruinous.  Anyway - here's a picture of the gorgeous old girl: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/32274.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/31506.JPG And when that happens (and it will), you're best served with something that's relatively easy to service. When I think of my own 2014 Mustang GT, I shudder at the thought of keeping it anywhere near close to reliable 40 years from now. It's waaaaaaaaaay more complicated than yours was. Even the interior materials are going to fail, such that I'll be lucky to see decent replacements by then. It's going to be damn near impossible to keep a car like mine 100% OEM (or even close to it) 40 years from now. It may well be functional, but it will be through heavy aftermarket support and shit that was never available on my car when I bought it. If my car is still around 40 years from now, it will surely be the 2054 version of a "resto-mod". The one thing I would suggest to people buying a classic muscle car, is to buy one that's been meticulously restored. Including the wiring. I mean ALL OF IT. They were only good for about 15 years max when they were brand fucking new (assuming you babied them and were a Nazi about preventative maintenance), and you're going to need to be at least that good if you plan on owning it for the rest of your life. Re-using parts that appear okay probably isn't going to cut it. You're going to need to drop near $100k to essentially have a brand new car, that originally sold for ~$4k. Much less than that, and you're going to be chasing dumb shit down in perpetuity, if you intend on driving it with any regularity and expect that every last solitary thing works as new. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:42:28 PM EDT
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I'd like to say a Ford GT 40 or 05-06 GT but I'm not sure I could take care of or insure either. Maybe a new GT350.
Second would be a 93 Mustang Cobra. I just love the Ford 5.0. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:49:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: If you could be given any car, what would it be? Here are the rules (cause everyone likes rules, right?), 1. You are financially responsible for maintaining the car, gas, insurance, repairs etc. The car was free but nothing else. 2. You cannot sell the car to buy a cheaper car and have money left over. 3. This is a car that you would drive to enjoy and not just look at the damn thing. 4. A car that you would have in your possession for the rest of your life. My wife and I make a good living but if someone gave me a Porsche 918, I'd have to sell it, could never afford to keep it. My pick, Porsche 997.2 GT3 RS. The last of the Mezger built engine 911s and before they went to electric steering. I've not driven one of these but they look and sound amazing. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187410/997_2_GT3RS_forum__2__jpg-1389281.JPG You screw up all my dream cars w/ your rules. I have to be able to afford it. I guess w/ those rules I'd take something like a Tesla Model X Performance with all the bells and whistles. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:51:07 PM EDT
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Don't know if it could be done but the c7 zo6 rolling chassis on the bottom
with the 1967 corvette body and interior on top Would be a sweet driver with classic looks man those 427's in the c7 z06's rip and are more fun to me than the supercharged ones …. and they don't handle half bad either even with their goofy transverse leaf spring suspension setup lol I guess you can make up for a lot with a low center of gravity and huge sticky tires'  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:52:25 PM EDT
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It's something that I'd have to be able to afford to keep up with in my current state of affairs? That didn't really fit the whole "fantasy" concept. That's like asking who your dream woman is, but you have to buy her feminine products every month until she hits menopause.
That said, 1979 Porsche 930. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:54:09 PM EDT
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Nice things scare me so...Civic Type R. It’s a Honda, but probably fun to drive.
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a difference between something you drive on weekends and maybe use for commutes when the weather is nice vs something that's going to see a gazillion miles, heavy traffic, severe weather, and road salt. I dream about cars that would be good for the former. The latter is more dictated by practical requirements. If I had to daily drive one vehicle for the rest of my life, and it actually had to survive in this area, I'd probably be looking at a Ford Super Duty with the aluminum body and a gas engine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He didn't say daily driver. That would really change the math. What is the point in owning a car if you don't drive it  There's a difference between something you drive on weekends and maybe use for commutes when the weather is nice vs something that's going to see a gazillion miles, heavy traffic, severe weather, and road salt. I dream about cars that would be good for the former. The latter is more dictated by practical requirements. If I had to daily drive one vehicle for the rest of my life, and it actually had to survive in this area, I'd probably be looking at a Ford Super Duty with the aluminum body and a gas engine. My daughter's first car was (and is) a 2004 Toyota Camry SE. She gave all of like $2k for it with ~200k on the clock. I was a nice Dad and dropped another $1,200 into it, to bring it up to "Dad spec" (not a damn thing left wrong, no more deferred maintenance, etc). Total rental-spec, beige box appliance. But...the A/C and heat works, the cruise works, the radio is fine, the brakes are fine, there are no wind leaks or squeaks, etc, etc, etc. It's a great car to depreciate the fuck out of, while racking up the miles on a commute. It's so cheap that you don't even worry about the value of the vehicle in relation to repairs, as much as you distill it down to cents per mile to own, operate, maintain, license and insure a personal conveyance. Shit, the 4 Michelin tires I put on it were probably half what the thing was worth. But...so what? I'm left wondering why I drove my own car that I loved for 80 miles a day for damn near 2 years while commuting, when I could have just done it in something like her car - saving the fun car for the weekends and nice days. Or as a spare, if the commuter-mobile was down for some reason. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 11:05:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a lot of truth to this. My daughter's first car was (and is) a 2004 Toyota Camry SE. She gave all of like $2k for it with ~200k on the clock. I was a nice Dad and dropped another $1,200 into it, to bring it up to "Dad spec" (not a damn thing left wrong, no more deferred maintenance, etc). Total rental-spec, beige box appliance. But...the A/C and heat works, the cruise works, the radio is fine, the brakes are fine, there are no wind leaks or squeaks, etc, etc, etc. It's a great car to depreciate the fuck out of, while racking up the miles on a commute. It's so cheap that you don't even worry about the value of the vehicle in relation to repairs, as much as you distill it down to cents per mile to own, operate, maintain, license and insure a personal conveyance. Shit, the 4 Michelin tires I put on it were probably half what the thing was worth. But...so what? I'm left wondering why I drove my own car that I loved for 80 miles a day for damn near 2 years while commuting, when I could have just done it in something like her car - saving the fun car for the weekends and nice days. Or as a spare, if the commuter-mobile was down for some reason. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He didn't say daily driver. That would really change the math. What is the point in owning a car if you don't drive it There's a difference between something you drive on weekends and maybe use for commutes when the weather is nice vs something that's going to see a gazillion miles, heavy traffic, severe weather, and road salt. I dream about cars that would be good for the former. The latter is more dictated by practical requirements. If I had to daily drive one vehicle for the rest of my life, and it actually had to survive in this area, I'd probably be looking at a Ford Super Duty with the aluminum body and a gas engine. My daughter's first car was (and is) a 2004 Toyota Camry SE. She gave all of like $2k for it with ~200k on the clock. I was a nice Dad and dropped another $1,200 into it, to bring it up to "Dad spec" (not a damn thing left wrong, no more deferred maintenance, etc). Total rental-spec, beige box appliance. But...the A/C and heat works, the cruise works, the radio is fine, the brakes are fine, there are no wind leaks or squeaks, etc, etc, etc. It's a great car to depreciate the fuck out of, while racking up the miles on a commute. It's so cheap that you don't even worry about the value of the vehicle in relation to repairs, as much as you distill it down to cents per mile to own, operate, maintain, license and insure a personal conveyance. Shit, the 4 Michelin tires I put on it were probably half what the thing was worth. But...so what? I'm left wondering why I drove my own car that I loved for 80 miles a day for damn near 2 years while commuting, when I could have just done it in something like her car - saving the fun car for the weekends and nice days. Or as a spare, if the commuter-mobile was down for some reason. That's somewhat of a different discussion. The points I would make, in short, are... 1) If you have the money, and if you spend a lot of time in/with your car, there is value in spending the money on a vehicle to make the quality of life better during that time. 2) If you already own the depreciating asset, parking it to "keep miles off it" is the most wasteful thing you can do. If you play around with the KBB/NADA type value calculators, the age of a vehicle makes a huge difference while the mileage mostly doesn't. #2 doesn't apply if the vehicle has already reached an age that it's no longer depreciating, and it also doesn't apply as much to certain use cases where the operating costs of the vehicle outweigh other variables, but the point applies to most privately owned vehicles. |
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