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Thanksgiving is coming up... "Turducken"... |
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How is this even a question? Kill the birds when they are on your property. Have your wife clean them. Then make soup.
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Call her on the phone and let her know that you are going to kill her ducks the next time they are on your property. You warned her with the exact consequences of her inactions and it won't be a big surprise to her when her flock comes up short. When she comes over to ask about it inform her that it will happen again and that you would appreciate her picking up the carcasses out of your yard.
In Oregon you can shoot dogs for hazing your livestock, I would have no problem shooting poultry for shitting on my driveway. |
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Open up a little roadside chicken stand,
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Border collie or trump wall.....10' higher for flying ducks.....make her pay for it.
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Chickens, ducks, cows, flowerbeds and poop. Can I have your problems?
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How about trapping them and turning them over to Animal Regulations? You should certainly be within your rights if you are not harming them. Let her go down to bail them out and after the bills begin to add up, she'll figure out how to keep them away from your property?
Or, take it public and start a counter website advising others exactly what is happening and asking for public opinion and suggestions? Maybe warn her first, or not. |
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A lot of funny advice in here, but I can't kill her animals without getting into trouble myself.
I also have zero desire to eat these birds. When we first moved in she brought over some eggs and lettuce from her garden. The eggs literally smelled like death and didn't even make it into our house and the lettuce was loose in a dirty walmart sack and was mostly brown and wilted. These people are totally unclean. Luckily we have cedar trees that block of their house and most of their property. I had to go back there once and their front porch was covered in cow, chicken, and duck shit. Their front door had chicken shit all over it from them sitting above it. Same for the windows and you could barely see through them they were so dirty. Their house and property used to be nice when the old owners had it, but they have flat out ruined it. |
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Actually, almost our entire property is fenced, execpt for along the road. But you're an idiot if you think fences stop chickens and ducks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What ever happened to good fences make good neighbors? Actually, almost our entire property is fenced, execpt for along the road. But you're an idiot if you think fences stop chickens and ducks. In before someone doesn't realize chickens and ducks can fly. Wasn't there a jackass here that didn't know turkeys can fly or was that something I saw in a movie? It's hard to separate reality and ARF life sometimes. |
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OP, Several people have mentioned putting up a fence. Does your property not lend itself to installing a fence between you and her? Or around most of your property? If you do it yourself a 4' tall field fence is not expensive to install or hard to do and it will stop most of your problems. The occasional bird will fly over it and will need to be dealt with, but the majority will stay on the other side of it. T posts are easy to drive, field fence is easy to stretch and if you don't expect large animals to be pushing against it you don't have to have super duty posts at the corners. We have 10 acres here and have 6' tall chain link around the 5 acres we live on. In 20 years very few animals have ever been on it other than those that will climb the fence or dig under it. Edited to add: For the folks that say a fence is useless, I take care of animals for several different folks in our area with birds and 4' field fence around their property. They don't lose their birds over those fences very often. |
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The thought has crossed my mind. But she's totally against modern medicine or vaccines. And from talking to family in the poultry business, they wouldn't touch these chickens with a 30' pole. Which is another problem. If my BIL & Sister knew these chickens and ducks were pooping on the sidewalk they would never come to our house and never let their kids come over. Sounds harsh, but he's a specialist in the poultry business and travels the world going to different chicken and turkey houses. They aren't even supposed to go to a house or property where any type of poultry is, unless it's controlled by his company. It's one of the things they do to help prevent avian flu from spreading. They live an hour away though and rarely come visit, but it's still a problem we deal with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Me, I would be eating fresh duck and chicken. That will solve that problem. You'll still have to fix your own flowerbeds.... The thought has crossed my mind. But she's totally against modern medicine or vaccines. And from talking to family in the poultry business, they wouldn't touch these chickens with a 30' pole. Which is another problem. If my BIL & Sister knew these chickens and ducks were pooping on the sidewalk they would never come to our house and never let their kids come over. Sounds harsh, but he's a specialist in the poultry business and travels the world going to different chicken and turkey houses. They aren't even supposed to go to a house or property where any type of poultry is, unless it's controlled by his company. It's one of the things they do to help prevent avian flu from spreading. They live an hour away though and rarely come visit, but it's still a problem we deal with. Would they eat a wild fowl, rabbit, squirrel?? I've raised my share of chickens and know a couple people who have raised one hell of a lot more than me. None of us gave the birds anything but chicken feed, veggies out of the garden and what bugs the birds nab. They better not go to any parking lot around here, then. There's goose shit everywhere. |
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A lot of funny advice in here, but I can't kill her animals without getting into trouble myself. I also have zero desire to eat these birds. When we first moved in she brought over some eggs and lettuce from her garden. The eggs literally smelled like death and didn't even make it into our house and the lettuce was loose in a dirty walmart sack and was mostly brown and wilted. These people are totally unclean. Luckily we have cedar trees that block of their house and most of their property. I had to go back there once and their front porch was covered in cow, chicken, and duck shit. Their front door had chicken shit all over it from them sitting above it. Same for the windows and you could barely see through them they were so dirty. Their house and property used to be nice when the old owners had it, but they have flat out ruined it. View Quote Who would know??? |
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A lot of funny advice in here, but I can't kill her animals without getting into trouble myself. I also have zero desire to eat these birds. When we first moved in she brought over some eggs and lettuce from her garden. The eggs literally smelled like death and didn't even make it into our house and the lettuce was loose in a dirty walmart sack and was mostly brown and wilted. These people are totally unclean. Luckily we have cedar trees that block of their house and most of their property. I had to go back there once and their front porch was covered in cow, chicken, and duck shit. Their front door had chicken shit all over it from them sitting above it. Same for the windows and you could barely see through them they were so dirty. Their house and property used to be nice when the old owners had it, but they have flat out ruined it. View Quote Well maybe if you wait around some here will post some legal loophole or something where you can get someone else(ie the Government) to solve your problems for you; since the simple steps you can take yourself are too scary. |
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A lot of funny advice in here, but I can't kill her animals without getting into trouble myself. I also have zero desire to eat these birds. When we first moved in she brought over some eggs and lettuce from her garden. The eggs literally smelled like death and didn't even make it into our house and the lettuce was loose in a dirty walmart sack and was mostly brown and wilted. These people are totally unclean. Luckily we have cedar trees that block of their house and most of their property. I had to go back there once and their front porch was covered in cow, chicken, and duck shit. Their front door had chicken shit all over it from them sitting above it. Same for the windows and you could barely see through them they were so dirty. Their house and property used to be nice when the old owners had it, but they have flat out ruined it. Who would know??? Too simple of a solution; requires the OP to take care of the issue himself. |
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Call her on the phone and let her know that you are going to kill her ducks the next time they are on your property. You warned her with the exact consequences of her inactions and it won't be a big surprise to her when her flock comes up short. When she comes over to ask about it inform her that it will happen again and that you would appreciate her picking up the carcasses out of your yard. In Oregon you can shoot dogs for hazing your livestock, I would have no problem shooting poultry for shitting on my driveway. View Quote It's against the law to do that and I'd be admitting to it. Bad idea. |
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How about trapping them and turning them over to Animal Regulations? You should certainly be within your rights if you are not harming them. Let her go down to bail them out and after the bills begin to add up, she'll figure out how to keep them away from your property? Or, take it public and start a counter website advising others exactly what is happening and asking for public opinion and suggestions? Maybe warn her first, or not. View Quote The trapping idea isn't bad. But I'm not buying a trap or shelling out any money over this. |
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Quoted: Pulling this out of my butt, but I don't think those laws apply to domestically raised fowl. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Neighbor lady across the pond from me had 15 Muscovy ducks. They pooped everywhere. The first time they crapped in my garage, the wife unit said they had to go. Notice that I said the neighbor "had" 15 ducks. After some research, it turns out the Muscovy ducks are considered an invasive species where I live. Depending on the type of ducks that you are dealing with, be careful, they could be protected under the Migratory Waterfowl Act. Pulling this out of my butt, but I don't think those laws apply to domestically raised fowl. |
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Suppressed 22lr bolt gun
Kill it and grill it. Make a dinner pic post and reference this one. Automatic 10/10 |
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My old neighbor did the same shit until one day my golden got tired of it and went on a rampage. Man the neighbor was pissed , but hey you gotta take some control of them.
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Some people just can't be made happy. Sunday dinner for a year, free for the taking, and they still bitch. On an unrelated note, does anyone know how to bait in a cow? Mineral/salt block Of course! (Slaps forehead) |
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On an unrelated note, does anyone know how to bait in a cow? Can you play the trombone? https://youtu.be/qs_-emj1qR4 He could have his own television show, like those guys with the duck calls. |
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I think everybody knows that fowl can fly. That's why people clip their wings. It has to be done on a regular basis, but it will keep them from reaching the top of a fence.
My neighbor has a bunch of chickens, some ducks, and a pair of turkeys ~ all pets. All have names, none will ever be butchered and eaten, except for what the coyotes, hawks,minks, and even once, one of our dogs, gets. When she neglects the wing clipping, the birds can make the top of the fence. If it looks like the coast is clear,ie one of our dogs is not in sight, they come down on our side. Had some mild damage in the garden ~ mostly scratching the mulch out looking for bugs, but also digging up potatoes, and pecking at tomatoes. Rabbit fencing around the garden solved that, and I needed to do it anyway, because the rabbits are way worse than the birds as far as garden destruction. Before putting up the rabbit fencing, I used to shoot the chickens in the ass with a Daisy Red Rider. No damage, but they sure ran like hell when hit in the ass. The two turkeys are hilarious. So tame that they are always coming over for a visit. I can be at the workbench in the front of the garage, feel something brush the back of my leg, and there they are. I think they're just wondering if what I'm doing involves food. I don't care about having her fowl coming around. Not much of a big deal. I call the turkeys my neighborhood watch committee. Guess what? The hose takes care of the occasional pile of turkey shit. Since the OP mentioned it, maybe some aren't aware of how it works as far as getting and eating eggs. Country folks can skip this part... There is no separate exit tube for eggs. They come out of the bird's asshole. They usually show some evidence of this by the presence of a little shit on the shell. But the eggshell also has one of nature's miracles on it ~ a secretion by the hen that provides an impervious barrier. As long as the shell is not washed, the coating acts as a biological barrier. It keeps bacteria out, and prevents spoiling. Unwashed eggs should never be refrigerated. They can sit in a bowl out on your counter for a month or more, and remain fresh. They should only be washed immediately before eating them. Here in the US, our nanny state FDA has dictated that chicken poop on eggshells is a horrible public health hazard that must be regulated away. So all commercially sold eggs here must be washed. Unfortunately, that also removes the protective coating, which means that the eggs must now be kept refrigerated, and have a shorted shelf life. Most of the rest of the world, does not have this silly regulation, and they all keep their eggs out at room temp. The first time you travel abroad and see eggs in the grocery store at room temp it can be puzzling. edit to add: One time I commented to my Dad about the damned grackles that were out in my yard pecking away at something. They're so obnoxious and have such an ugly sounding voice that I had come to hate them. But when he informed me that what they are pecking at was crabgrass seeds, I got an entirely different opinion of them. Same with chickens out in your yard and even in the garden. Sure, they may ruin an occasional tomato, or spread some mulch around, but what they are mainly doing is hunting bugs. The bugs that can ruin your garden or turf. And their crap is primo fertilizer for garden and grass. If anyone has ever seen a chicken wipe out a nest of ground wasps, they will have a new appreciation for them |
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I had a very similar problem with my neighbor and I took the following steps after their goats destroyed roughly 500$ worth of shrubbery 2 days after we had worked our butts off putting it in. We are in a very rural area so the occasional animal getting loose is no big deal but this had turned into their animals spending more time on my property than the owners due to their lack of maintenance and interest in providing a suitable place for their animals. Take pictures and try to contact owner. Call the Sheriff. In my county animal control calls are handled by Deputies. Your area may be different call and find out. Take pictures and call the Sheriff each and every time the neighbors animals are on your property whether they destroy it or not. I spoke with the Deputies each time and explained my regret that they respond to a call like this but explained that the situation was at a breaking point and they all were supportive. At one point the Deputy arrested 3 people as a result of these calls that had standing warrants. Finally, file a claim in small claims court for the damages using the report and pictures and take a lien against their property if they refuse to pay. This worked for us and they finally relented. I hope you don't need to go to the lengths we did. Good fences make good neighbors. View Quote This is good advice. Thank you. I'm not to a point of getting the law involved, but it's in my back pocket for now. I've been taking a lot of pictures and figured I'd only communicate via text from now on so that it's documented. I did talk to a deputy already and he's the one that told me not to shoot them or kill them or I could get into trouble. He did say what she is doing is against the law. I'm thinking about having a lawn guy come out and quote redoing the weed barrier and fixing the damage, and then mailing a certified copy to her. Tell her she can pay for it now or deal with small claims court. I don't have time to fix this shit and I shouldn't have to. |
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Find people giving away cats, no paper trail style, and "release them" in the area. A hungry feline is a hell of a predator.
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OP, Several people have mentioned putting up a fence. Does your property not lend itself to installing a fence between you and her? Or around most of your property? If you do it yourself a 4' tall field fence is not expensive to install or hard to do and it will stop most of your problems. The occasional bird will fly over it and will need to be dealt with, but the majority will stay on the other side of it. T posts are easy to drive, field fence is easy to stretch and if you don't expect large animals to be pushing against it you don't have to have super duty posts at the corners. We have 10 acres here and have 6' tall chain link around the 5 acres we live on. In 20 years very few animals have ever been on it other than those that will climb the fence or dig under it. Edited to add: For the folks that say a fence is useless, I take care of animals for several different folks in our area with birds and 4' field fence around their property. They don't lose their birds over those fences very often. View Quote OK, to everyone suggesting fencing.... Besides the whole issue of me having to foot a bill for a lot of fencing to help stop a neighbor from breaking the law. And besides the whole issue of chickens and ducks can still being able to get over them with clipped wings. Let me explain to you my current fencing situation.. My backyard is large and completely chain-link. Albeit, it does a good job at keeping them out, they still manage to get in there. The sides of my front yard are fenced too, one is a nice PVC plank fence that one neighbor put up around his entire property, and the other is ugly hog wire the chicken lady uses to keep her cow on her property. She uses hog wire to help keep dogs out but all her birds can go right through it. |
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So you don't want to eat them, and you don't want to turn your dog loose on them. That rules out my first two suggestions.
You don't want to spend any money on fences, or even traps. My only suggestion at this point is to either call your sheriff back and file charges, or get animal control involved. They should loan you some traps if nothing else. |
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So you don't want to eat them, and you don't want to turn your dog loose on them. That rules out my first two suggestions. You don't want to spend any money on fences, or even traps. My only suggestion at this point is to either call your sheriff back and file charges, or get animal control involved. They should loan you some traps if nothing else. View Quote My dog won't go after them. I've tried. |
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OP, it appears to me that you can make bank selling free range poultry. If it's on your land, hey, why not?
Set up a table right next to hers at the farmers market! |
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I think if a chicken or duck trespasses onto your property it becomes yours.
Enjoy your fresh poultry. |
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A friend of mine had a similar issue with a neighbor's guinea hens. One day the guinea hens starting attacking his cat, and over the next couple days the cat had killed all 12 guinea hens. His dogs didn't do anything about the hens.
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Shoot Season Shaddap ETA: Reminded me of the neighbor lady's peacocks and guineas. Fourteen guineas got ran over in the road, all in one day. The peacock got in our yard and on the hood of the wife's new Tahoe, scratched the shit out of it. I came home from work to her plucking him for the smoker, and he tasted GOOD! |
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The trapping idea isn't bad. But I'm not buying a trap or shelling out any money over this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How about trapping them and turning them over to Animal Regulations? You should certainly be within your rights if you are not harming them. Let her go down to bail them out and after the bills begin to add up, she'll figure out how to keep them away from your property? Or, take it public and start a counter website advising others exactly what is happening and asking for public opinion and suggestions? Maybe warn her first, or not. The trapping idea isn't bad. But I'm not buying a trap or shelling out any money over this. Check with Animal Regs, they may have some loaner traps available, or might even come to you and do the trapping. |
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As someone who has lived with a 10 acre pond in his back yard for 18 years that attracted many Geese, I can tell you that they make one hell of a mess shitting on the driveway.
I understand your problem OP. Get a dog. Doesn't have to be a big dog. A Jack Russell would work well. When I got tired of messing with the Geese I just released my hounds. They loved the taste of Goose and their coats got nice and shiny and they looked great after eating a few. In a short time, the Geese learned to stay down at the pond and not venture up around the house/driveway. |
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My uncle had problems with packs of "domestic" dogs coming onto his property, running and killing his sheep and goats. He called the sheriff's department and a deputy came out. Gist of the conversation was: How many acres do you have here? A: 400. do you have a rifle? A: yes. Do you have a shovel? A:yes. The deputy then said something like, "I am confident you can take care of the issue without us having to come back out here. Have a good day."
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Her land = pets and livestock; on your land = nuisance animals
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My GSDs love chasing birds. No issue here.
But if I were you, I'd go talk to her in person (gets the point across a lot better than a text or even a phone call) to tell her to keep her stupid fucking birds off my shit and then start drop kicking her stupid ass birds back into her yard. |
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OP, where do you live? My GSD has no qualms and maybe yours will pick up on it.
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So you don't want to eat them, and you don't want to turn your dog loose on them. That rules out my first two suggestions. You don't want to spend any money on fences, or even traps. My only suggestion at this point is to either call your sheriff back and file charges, or get animal control involved. They should loan you some traps if nothing else. My dog won't go after them. I've tried. |
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you literally have free range organic coming to your front door
if her flock was diseased you would know it red ryder bb gun I catch my hens in something they shouldn't and the red ryder makes them move along without harm |
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Neighbor has only 3 or 4 acres and lets about 50 ducks and chickens free roam onto surrounding neighbors. She's a big new age type hippie and thinks her "farm" is the best thing in the world. Has a website for it and everything. Sells it at farmer's market. We moved in almost 2 years ago. The free roaming ducks and chickens have been a little bit of a nuisance but not bad and I tolerated it because my wife likes it and they keep ticks away. Well we just spent 7k on new concrete for a driveway and sidewalk. Before we just had gravel. I didn't realize just how much the ducks shit on everything until we got concrete. Then last week they started getting into our flowerbeds. They pulled out most of the mulch, pulled up the weed barrier, and dug a bunch of holes. Our sidewalk was totally covered in dirt, mud, and mulch. Called neighbor, no answer. Sent her texts with pictures and said she needs to keep her birds off our property from here on out. No response at all. But didn't see the birds for a few days. This weekend they were all over the flower beds again. Chased them off and texted/called her. No response. After chasing the fuckers off 7 times and texting her about it every time, I told her there won't be an 8th time. Immediate response. No apology or nothing. Just said her husband accidently left them out and that she's trying to figure out a long term plan. Didn't even offer her "green thumb" to fix the damage. This women is selfish. There are other things she's done that support that opinion. Unfortunately shooting the birds could be an animal cruelty charge. We're out of the city but a deputy did tell me I have enough photo evidence to charge her with criminal charges. So I've got that in my back pocket. She also runs one or two cows (had 3 when we moved here) but I learned a month ago that her deed specifically says no livestock is allowed on the property. So I have that in my back pocket too. I know this shit sounds ridiculous because we're talking about chickens and ducks but now I gotta redo my flowerbeds to fix all the weed barrier. I don't have time for this shit. And we're talking about 50+ birds. View Quote buy her turkey's. Then prepare for "turduckin" Once, years ago, my cousin ran over one of his neighbors ducks. It's funnier now than it was then lol. Also, I'm reminded of Rodney Dangerfield: "what? did somebody step on a duck?" Good luck OP. |
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