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Posted: 9/29/2022 4:59:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Imbel build on an Imbel receiver.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:01:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Belgium made. Start turning tricks to pay for one.
DSA makes good stuff, much cheaper. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:02:43 PM EDT
[#3]
whichever one is best for slotting goddamn floppies.
@cardboardkiller |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:04:26 PM EDT
[#4]
That really depends on how much you want to spend. Right now is pretty late to get into the game and the market is as bad as AK74s. Quality parts kits/receivers are expensive, and preban imports even more expensive.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:14:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Hope you already have ammo and mags.
FAL is not for the poors. Find yourself a nice STG-58: 
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:16:02 PM EDT
[#6]
50.63
But AR10 is mo betta |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:20:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Dont buy one if you want to mount an optic. Not a very good platform.
Beautiful rifles but not as accurate as a AR-10 or M-14 |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:20:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imbel build on an Imbel receiver. Hesse is what OP seeks.  Seriously, my Hesse runs like a raped ape. Others weren’t as lucky. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:21:16 PM EDT
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Austrian guns are nice. Smoothest shooting 308 I've ever shot.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:23:12 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hope you already have ammo and mags. FAL is not for the poors. Find yourself a nice STG-58: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/e4/61/b3e46171166c14ef6bbcf67b3dff8ae3.jpg If you use ammo seek you can get ZSR in bulk for less than what it was during the Obama years(non panic) Mags are rough tho lol |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:24:31 PM EDT
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Been struggling with that myself the last year or two. FAL world is kind of complicated. DSA is the only thing currently being built and I read a lot of bad reviews on them. The used market is all over the place, ranging for kind of pricey to freaking nuts. The search is on the back burner and likely to stay that way for a long time.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:29:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Heavy, check. Long and awkward, check. 4 moa rifles, check. Better options in 7.62x51/.308, check.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:32:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Been struggling with that myself the last year or two. FAL world is kind of complicated. DSA is the only thing currently being built and I read a lot of bad reviews on them. The used market is all over the place, ranging for kind of pricey to freaking nuts. The search is on the back burner and likely to stay that way for a long time. DSA has issues but it isn't as bad as the internet makes it out to be. Gunplumber has reviews of newer DSA receivers and they are GTG |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:39:06 PM EDT
[#14]
A G3.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:39:14 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 50.63 But AR10 is mo betta 50.63 hands down.I bought a NIB one back in 2005,NO longer NIB,shoot the hell out of it still.Life is too short for safe queens. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:45:55 PM EDT
[#16]
The problem reccommending FALs is that the parts used to be cheap, and folks built them themselves. There were several US parts makers, and as always, quality landed on a spectrum.
An early parts kit gun could be an excellent rifle, or a shit rifle... and it can be hard to tell by looking unless you're an expert. The barrel may be timed poorly, and the headspace could be off. You could have parts from the UK, India, Argentina, Isreal, and the US on the same gun. I say if you're looking at a 90's parts build gun (second hand), shoot it first and/or consult an impartial expert. If you are looking for new, DSA, because I'm pretty sure that's your only option. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:47:01 PM EDT
[#17]
DSA is the main player now that all the kits and stuff has dried up .
I got mine years ago from Ohio Rapid fire . I think he passed on a few years back . I love mine . Good luck op |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont buy one if you want to mount an optic. Not a very good platform. Beautiful rifles but not as accurate as a AR-10 or M-14 @neuromancer Actually, very easy and durable mounts are available through ARMS. They can be 1 1/2" 5 shot @100 yd guns but usually are 3"-4" at 100yds.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:50:41 PM EDT
[#19]
For a collection, shoot a few rounds every now and then, sell it to pay for assisted living? Get a real FN FAL.
Want to shoot it with as much 308 as you can afford? Get a DS Arms, you got a warranty, you got someone to call, they have had their downs, but are back on the ups as much as most companies. Looking at a Springfield is an option, they have gotten pricey’er. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:51:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Heavy, check. Long and awkward, check. 4 moa rifles, check. Better options in 7.62x51/.308, check. No shit. Is anyone buying a FAL right now because they think it's a modern, practical rifle? Of course not, they're buying it because it's a FAL. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:52:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Heavy, check. Long and awkward, check. 4 moa rifles, check. Better options in 7.62x51/.308, check.  Yawn |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:52:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hesse is what OP seeks. Seriously, my Hesse runs like a raped ape. Others weren’t as lucky. You probably got the only one |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:53:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Heavy, check. Long and awkward, check. 4 moa rifles, check. Better options in 7.62x51/.308, check. Also: Cool, check. Historic, check. Reliable, check. Cool, check. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:54:41 PM EDT
[#24]
I recommend you steer away from the FAL unless a 4 MOA boat anchor with limited aftermarket support/accessories.
I monkeyed with FALs for a decade back when parts kits were cheap and one could get mags for $5 or $10 apiece. You can mount optics on them, but the buttstock is designed for use with irons. A nice large frame AR—DPMS, Armalite, whatever, will be worlds easier to use and have four times better accuracy. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:00:06 PM EDT
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You see what this is right here? This is a man’s rifle. These motherfuckers have slotted everything from floppies to elephants to communists hell bent on destroying everything the baby Jesus holds near and dear in his sweet, little, pudgy fingers. This motherfucker will either make a man out of you or make you realize you ain’t a man. The sheer sight of this pig gives women lady boners, makes their panties burst into flames and their nipples harder than a pimps dick at a high school graduation. You torch this bitch off and God almighty takes notice. Turning cover into concealment? Shit. This Belgian beast makes a ‘79 Cadillac seem as thin as a Chinese lantern. You can squeal about your AR all you want, but the hot bitches want a man’s man and not some Mattel toy totin’ pussy boy.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:00:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imbel build on an Imbel receiver. This. Vanden Berg Custom or Arizona Response Systems. FAL receivers: Type 3 is best, the. Type 2, then Type 1. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:02:57 PM EDT
[#27]
 Here is my Steyr 50.00. The ugly looking finish is oil (and an old shitty camera) making a bad reflection, she's perfect. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:06:07 PM EDT
[#28]
If it's for shooting, DSA, because they're still in business. Some of those collectors grade FALs will hurt your feelings if you break an original part these days. Same reason I would never suggest someone spring for a converted Saiga as a shooter's AK in current year.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:07:48 PM EDT
[#29]
I sold my Herstal made 50.00 18 months back, because I needed the money.
I got $3,500 less 10% consignment fee and it was truly a sad day for me. Bipod, bayonet, ARMS slide in scope mount, 3 original mags and a cheap case. Chris |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:08:07 PM EDT
[#30]
I like the Israelis I built on DSA receivers.
(Imbel kit build in the middle)  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:12:37 PM EDT
[#31]
I can vouch for the Springfield SAR4800. Fine ass machine!
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:16:21 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You see what this is right here? This is a man's rifle. These motherfuckers have slotted everything from floppies to elephants to communists hell bent on destroying everything the baby Jesus holds near and dear in his sweet, little, pudgy fingers. This motherfucker will either make a man out of you or make you realize you ain't a man. The sheer sight of this pig gives women lady boners, makes their panties burst into flames and their nipples harder than a pimps dick at a high school graduation. You torch this bitch off and God almighty takes notice. Turning cover into concealment? Shit. This Belgian beast makes a '79 Cadillac seem as thin as a Chinese lantern. You can squeal about your AR all you want, but the hot bitches want a man's man and not some Mattel toy totin' pussy boy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31823/48D87EF5-1758-45B5-8F8A-A99800C27993-1701914.jpg 
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:54:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imbel build on an Imbel receiver. Otherwise DSA for cost and practicality. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:59:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Find kit. Find receiver. Send to Gunplumber/ARS
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:23:27 PM EDT
[#35]
Go to FAL Files and read about Ol’ Dirty.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:27:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Be patient and track down a DSA Stg.58. It's a Steyr parts kit with a Steyr barrel built on a receiver from LMT.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:28:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Hebrew hammer
Right arm of the free world. fasual automatic legere. adopted by 52 country's 52 country's liked them enough. i like them. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:31:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Good luck. The FAL salad days are over. If you can find a good STG-58 pattern FAL, that's a safe bet. Good luck finding good magazines, though. The polymer ones are mediocre at best. The good metal ones are super hard to find or expensive.
Still a great rifle and worth owning if you can do it reasonably. It is no replacement for a good AR-10 pattern rifle of course. Still a fun shooter and collectable. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:37:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Heavy, check. Long and awkward, check. 4 moa rifles, check. Better options in 7.62x51/.308, check. 4 MOA? LOL. Maybe a build on a parts kit with a shot out barrel or using Tula junk. 4 MOA was the max dispersion permitted for a rifle to be kept in service. I'm not sure they'd even let them leave the factory shooting like that even though that was barely within acceptance standards. They also came in different lengths and in lightweight models, too. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:41:07 PM EDT
[#40]
Mine.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:44:40 PM EDT
[#41]
My Stg58 is fucking tits. DSA really does make decent stuff.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:54:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You probably got the only one Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hesse is what OP seeks. Seriously, my Hesse runs like a raped ape. Others weren’t as lucky. You probably got the only one Purchased it from a gun smith. I’m sure it didn’t work this fine when new. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 8:04:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Given the market though, my recommendation would be this
Traditional style, new everything, chrome lined barrel for longevity. Barrel is contoured for a bipod, so you could add that if you like (I wish one of my FALs had one). Not cheap, but available. You could also ask Atlantic or AIM Surplus if they are expecting any more any time soon. Both carry DSA FALs regularly and are usually cheaper than DSA directly - but are sold out currently. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 8:08:00 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 8:17:31 PM EDT
[#45]
I’ve got an affinity for them….
 Attached FileBut yeah, if you want utility, go with a DSA. The days of getting a cheap parts kit and building one are long gone. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 8:52:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/29/2022 8:54:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve got an affinity for them….https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276315/9C528E33-B441-4390-B6BE-3E7CBE647CB1_jpe-2544307.JPG But yeah, if you want utility, go with a DSA. The days of getting a cheap parts kit and building one are long gone. I think you mean infinity of them. 
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Posted: 9/29/2022 8:56:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: YawnChuckle. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 9:01:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Fal was the coolest gun to me at one time until I got a scar
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Posted: 9/29/2022 9:13:24 PM EDT
[#50]
DSA Para. 16”.
TC |
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