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Posted: 5/24/2017 7:22:23 AM EDT
On the VA side of the DC Metro Area, the HOV lanes are abused to fuck. We can have HOV+2, sometimes HOV+3, then motorcycles, then also there is some super secret "Clean Emission" tag that allows hybrids and electric cars to ride in the HOV. I have no idea on that last one. Shit, the state police during the weekdays only pull over HOV offenders. Speeding? dont care lol.

But i have seen a massive number of obviously off duty, out-of-jurisdiction LEO cars commuting to and from work in the HOV lane. Why? When they are off-duty, arent they just a citizen like me? If they are not working or responding to a call, why do they get the HOV lane? Ive read the sign of allowable vehicles in that lane many, many times and it never lists "Someone in a cop car that needs to get to work".

You might think that so far im being a little incredulous. But here is a list of LEO vehicles ive personally seen in the HOV lane out past the 50/66 (Which is 30 miles outside of DC) interchange and heading into/out of the city.

-Arlington Police
-Alexandria Police
-PFPA (pentagon force protection agency)
-USCP (united states capitol police)
-DHS
-FPS (federal protective service, protects all the federal buildings)
-MWAA PD (Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority Police Department)
-USPP (united states park police, protects monuments in DC)
-MTP (metro transit police)
-BEP (bureau of Engraving police)
-Then just regular ole black, unmarked cars with cop antennas and US.GOV tags
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:24:34 AM EDT
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Yeah we see the same thing in atlanta, you do know we are the surfs dont you?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:25:24 AM EDT
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2/10 would not read again.


TL:DR=OP is trigger. When you work at mcdonalds you get more French fries in your happy meal.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:26:50 AM EDT
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In before the "Oh my god" you hate cops.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:28:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:29:09 AM EDT
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TL:DR=OP is trigger. When you work at mcdonalds you get more French fries in your happy meal.
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So being a cop is the same as working at mcdonalds?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:31:28 AM EDT
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There are waves in Atlanta?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:35:15 AM EDT
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2/10 would not read again.


TL:DR=OP is trigger. When you work at mcdonalds you get more French fries in your happy meal.
So being a cop is the same as working at mcdonalds?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:38:16 AM EDT
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Still equal, just more equal than you.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:39:01 AM EDT
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TIL: emergency vehicles should be stuck in traffic
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:40:55 AM EDT
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So your commute home is an emergency?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:40:56 AM EDT
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What if my name is Charlie?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:41:35 AM EDT
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No, Mcdonalds pays better and whiners don't go on arfcom and bitch about every little thing they think the McD clerk did wrong.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:41:50 AM EDT
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What if my name is Charlie?
CHARLIE DON'T SURF !!!
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:43:49 AM EDT
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All those agencies have take home cars? Is it possible they are going to or from the jail?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:47:23 AM EDT
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I also live in the DC area and see this BS all the time.  The PG County Cops are the worst.  Screaming by you in the left lane with no lights on 25+ mph over the speed limit.  Also really enjoyed the time I just missed a head on with a PG Cop driving the wrong way down the street!
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:47:26 AM EDT
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Yes and no. There isnt really a big jail to lock up every person picked up by a federal police force west of the city. There are jails west of the city but IIRC its not protocol for them to trasport them there. Usually DC and FED agencies either transfer to a DC temp jail or to the Alexandria Sheriffs Office, which has a big jail onsite.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:47:54 AM EDT
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Serf, not surf.  And it's obvious you don't respect the authority of the King's men.  Don't you question their motivations, serf!
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:50:20 AM EDT
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More responsibility = more perks.  If you're driving a marked car home and there's an accident or some kind of problem on the way there, are you going to just drive on by?  No, you will have to get involved at least temporarily.

Are you obligated to help on your way home from working at Wendy's?

I wasn't always a cop and it never bothered me before I was either.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:53:20 AM EDT
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More responsibility = more perks.  If you're driving a marked car home and there's an accident or some kind of problem on the way there, are you going to just drive on by?  No, you will have to get involved at least temporarily.

Are you obligated to help on your way home from working at Wendy's?

I wasn't always a cop and it never bothered me before I was either.
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So youre telling me a USCP is going to stop and help with an MVA thats in VA when they are off duty?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:55:03 AM EDT
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So youre telling me a USCP is going to stop and help with an MVA thats in VA when they are off duty?
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Most agencies have something in their policy/GO that requires it yeah--especially in today's social media world.  Nothing like a 10 second youtube video of a marked car driving on by past a bad car accident.  You think the brass want to deal with that? 
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:56:14 AM EDT
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Dash cam, video it, post it and complain to officials that are in a position to do something about it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:56:42 AM EDT
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Triggered by police week?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:56:50 AM EDT
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Serf, not surf.  And it's obvious you don't respect the authority of the King's men.  Don't you question their motivations, serf!
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In my AO the King tells us serfs when we can and cannot surf.

Wrap you head around that one.

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Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:56:53 AM EDT
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This dude is turning into the new primuspilum and capnrob put together.
They got together and had a baby and this is the result.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:04:24 AM EDT
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y u hatin?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:08:16 AM EDT
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More responsibility = more perks.  If you're driving a marked car home and there's an accident or some kind of problem on the way there, are you going to just drive on by?  No, you will have to get involved at least temporarily.
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So your commute home is an emergency?
More responsibility = more perks.  If you're driving a marked car home and there's an accident or some kind of problem on the way there, are you going to just drive on by?  No, you will have to get involved at least temporarily.
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Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:11:18 AM EDT
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Is there a Koons out that way?  Used to do a lot of the .gov service contracts.  

PFPA, Capital, could be returning from an escort, cops dropping off prisoners, training at NVCJA, etc

Not to say it might not be being abused, just that around there they might have some reasons
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:12:25 AM EDT
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GseriesFal thread......
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:13:41 AM EDT
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Pick up that can, citizen!
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:16:04 AM EDT
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They let the OP drive? I had no idea WV handed-out driver's licences to the bump helmet crowd.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:18:24 AM EDT
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They all do that here. I give zero fucks about it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:22:14 AM EDT
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Yup, its pretty cool. I guess not as cool as having a handicapped tag like you. But, almost.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:23:42 AM EDT
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I'm driving my two seater Vette in the peon lanes getting 30 mpg with an occupancy of 50%.

Woman is driving her 9 seater SUV in the HOV lane with a baby in a car seat getting 12mpg and an occupancy rate of ~20%.

Life is not fair OP.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:24:34 AM EDT
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blue privilege yo
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:27:03 AM EDT
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OP sounds sensitive.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:31:19 AM EDT
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how do you know when they are off duty?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:36:54 AM EDT
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Really?

I haven't noticed that to be the case.

Unless you work somewhere where people still give a shit.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:39:51 AM EDT
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Motorcycles- there is a provision that requires states to allow motorcycles to use HOV if the state gets fed road money
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:40:34 AM EDT
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serf, not surf.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:41:06 AM EDT
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Bingo, a lot of agencies don't allow the use of lights and sirens to go to priority calls only those that where someone's life is in immediate danger, we respond to alarms, domestics and accidents with injuries without lights and sirens, so maybe they were on there way to a call or job related response which requires an undelayed response without lights and sirens.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:46:54 AM EDT
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It's because it's the law. Gov loves to exempt themselves.

See the Va. Code § 33.2-501 - Law enforcement vehicles are not subject to HOV rules ever, doesn't matter if on/off duty.

Not sure how that applies to other GOV license plate vehicles, but at least with respect to cops they have free reign to use them whenever.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:50:04 AM EDT
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Bingo, a lot of agencies don't allow the use of lights and sirens to go to priority calls only those that where someone's life is in immediate danger, we respond to alarms, domestics and accidents with injuries without lights and sirens, so maybe they were on there way to a call or job related response which requires an undelayed response without lights and sirens.
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So the MWAA PD gets a non-emergency call to Fauquier County every day around 7am and 4pm?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:52:28 AM EDT
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What is an HOV???
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:53:38 AM EDT
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OP, it appears you are easily triggered by things that don't affect you
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:57:12 AM EDT
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HOV lanes are usually clogged up by idiots going 10 under the speed limit except in rare cases. Why is this a big deal, anyway? Seems like a pretty chickenshit thing to bitch about to me.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:59:27 AM EDT
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High Occupancy Vehicle - encouraged for ride sharing but some folks use their babies to qualify.  Even dogs.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:01:22 AM EDT
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HOV lanes are usually clogged up by idiots going 10 under the speed limit except in rare cases. Why is this a big deal, anyway? Seems like a pretty chickenshit thing to bitch about to me.
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Get stuck in heavy traffic every day and see same cop car drive by, knowing they are commuting to work.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:02:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:08:06 AM EDT
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Sounds like you never had the pleasure of driving through a jammed up metropolis 
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:12:09 AM EDT
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Citizen just like you?

Yeah, to the IRS, but get real.

You must be thinking of fire fighters.
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