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Posted: 7/17/2017 12:13:10 PM EDT
Which US fighter would you personally chose to fly if you were to go back in time to WW2 and fight Axis aircraft? Assume you will be given various types of missions (escort, intercept, ground attack...), different theaters and different altitudes. You will be deployed for over a year and maintenance must be completed in the field. Which of these fighters would you chose to fight and get you back alive? You can choose whichever generation you prefer.

P-38 Lightning
P-40 Warhawk
P-47 Thunderbolt
P-51 Mustang
F6F Hellcat
F4U Corsair
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:14:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Hellcat, or Jugg

8 50 cals are better than 6
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:24:20 PM EDT
[#2]
A B-29 with the Silverplate upgrade package loaded with a single Mk. III device - along with a Garmin GPS with "Berlin" loaded as the only waypoint.

Seems easier than running around shooting down a bunch of planes...
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:26:35 PM EDT
[#3]
Logic says F4U , family history says P51.  Either would be effective with someone who actually knew how to fight in one.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:29:55 PM EDT
[#4]
P-47!
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:30:58 PM EDT
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Logic says F4U , family history says P51.  Either would be effective with someone who actually knew how to fight in one.
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I chose the Corsair, just because when I was a kid I had a weird attraction to them. I built a couple different plastic models.  I found out years later that at one point in his past my dad had spent some time in a super secret factory somewhere assembling the gearboxes for the variable pitch propellers.  Nothing at all wrong with the Mustang.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:31:32 PM EDT
[#6]
P-47N Thunderbolt


you can't go wrong with eight .50s, a damn near bullet prof P&W R2800 Double Wasp, and the N model's longer range
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:35:47 PM EDT
[#7]
I've always loved the F6F Hellcat.
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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:35:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:38:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Poll fail - Brewster Buffalo not included.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:44:45 PM EDT
[#10]
my grandfather was a crew chief on P-38's in the Pacific. One of the brightest men I've ever known and if he had to work on them for years - and loved them the rest of his life - then that's plenty endorsement for me.

Plus I always appreciated the concentrated firepower and twin-engines!

ETA - my next two choices are Hellcat and Corsair, respectively. Just felt like adding that.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:52:34 PM EDT
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Hellcat, or Jugg

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I can't fault you for those choices, but mine Would be the f4u hands down. 

Fasterer than the hellcat, and more importantly, faster than most 109s. Not to mention faster than almost every IJN aircraft it would face. 

built to fight japs, so not quite as maneuverable as the the hellcat but much more maneuverable than a mustang or a high. plenty maneuverable for killin germans and Japs. 

Better read vicibility than the hellcat (admittedly not as much as some of the other options)

late war, I would try to get in a -1c variant... because quad AN/m2 20mm cannons...


Also, a little known fact. The brits fixed the corsairs carrier problems by fitting them with solid rubber wheels instead of normal inflated wheels. This was done quite by accedent when they ran out of corsair wheels and had to improvise with what they had on board for one of their bombers. 
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 12:58:14 PM EDT
[#12]
F4U all day
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:01:10 PM EDT
[#13]
F7F Tigercat.

Kharn
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:05:36 PM EDT
[#14]
Not mentioned but the deHavilland Mosquito would be my choice.  The guys who flew those must have had stainless steel balls.  Fast, carry bombs or use as a fighter, it could take on anything.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:05:50 PM EDT
[#15]
America's top ace, Richard Bong, flew a P-38.  I'll go with his choice.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:05:57 PM EDT
[#16]
P-38, just because of this




I just realized that the Battle of Midway was in 1942, not the year used in the title of the video game.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:06:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:07:39 PM EDT
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I can't fault you for those choices, but mine Would be the f4u hands down. 

Fasterer than the hellcat, and more importantly, faster than most 109s. Not to mention faster than almost every IJN aircraft it would face. 

built to fight japs, so not quite as maneuverable as the the hellcat but much more maneuverable than a mustang or a high. plenty maneuverable for killin germans and Japs. 

Better read vicibility than the hellcat (admittedly not as much as some of the other options)

late war, I would try to get in a -1c variant... because quad AN/m2 20mm cannons...


Also, a little known fact. The brits fixed the corsairs carrier problems by fitting them with solid rubber wheels instead of normal inflated wheels. This was done quite by accedent when they ran out of corsair wheels and had to improvise with what they had on board for one of their bombers. 
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It wasn't entirely the wheels that provided the carrier fix, it was the approach.

Americans got used to the straight in I can see everything approach and that just didn't work with the corsair.

The Brits, being crazy and lazy, learned that if you crabbed into the approach and straightened out at the very last second, you could see quite well.  They also got used to looking past the wing root to view the deck to the sides a little bit.  Another problem was the variance in wing stall speeds.  The port wing would stall before the starboard.  Later variants had a stall block on the starboard side to fix that issue.  Couple that with the massive amount of power the Corsair had to get them out of trouble, they did ok.  Then they chopped the wing tips off.

Then the limey bastards pushed their Corsairs over the sides of their carriers before the end of the war so they wouldn't have to pay for them.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:08:09 PM EDT
[#19]
I would go with the Jug. It has the most survivability and it's plenty effective.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:08:45 PM EDT
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That first post thing.

The Mustang and Corsair are sexier, but the Hellcat and the Thunderbolt are some tough bastards.

If airframe dictates theater, I'd choose the P-47 to go to Europe because fuck fighting over shark infested waters and islands full of Japanese soldiers that eat downed aviators.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:09:25 PM EDT
[#21]
Mustang was built as a bomber escort, purpose built for dogfighting. P-51 all the way.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:10:53 PM EDT
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Not mentioned but the deHavilland Mosquito would be my choice.  The guys who flew those must have had stainless steel balls.  Fast, carry bombs or use as a fighter, it could take on anything.
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Poll question specified 'US Fighters.'

If not I would have voted for the Spitfire.  Lacked range and compared to the P-51, but it was a consummate dogfighter in the hands of a pilot who knew how to use it.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:11:42 PM EDT
[#23]
P-51 FTW.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:14:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:14:32 PM EDT
[#25]
P38 Lightning.

Every day and twice on Sunday.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:14:42 PM EDT
[#26]
From "Empire of the Sun'  Love this clip...

P51 the Cadillac of the sky
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:15:21 PM EDT
[#27]
P-47
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:19:08 PM EDT
[#28]
P38.

Two engines and no crossing the streams with my guns.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:22:14 PM EDT
[#29]
P38 all day.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:25:52 PM EDT
[#30]
P-51 or 47.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:26:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Hellcat
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:26:10 PM EDT
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1st post nails it
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:27:37 PM EDT
[#33]
I think id fly a p-47 even though I like the p-51 look and ergonomics better
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:27:39 PM EDT
[#34]
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:29:01 PM EDT
[#35]
F4U is one of the sexiest aircraft of all time.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:33:08 PM EDT
[#36]
I'm 6'3" tall and 230lbs. What do I fit in?
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:35:19 PM EDT
[#37]
P-38L.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:39:13 PM EDT
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Poll fail - Brewster Buffalo not included.
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It was probably shot down before it made it to the poll.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:41:50 PM EDT
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You have to include the variant.  There is a huge difference between an F4U-1 and an F4U-1A.  The P-47 also improved throughout the War.  The only plane on the list that didn't really change is the Hellcat.

If you are allowing the choice of variant I will go with either F4U-4 or P-47N
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:44:57 PM EDT
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F4U all day
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this.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:47:09 PM EDT
[#41]
P-38 Forked tail devil.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:47:10 PM EDT
[#42]
While the P-40 is my favorite fighter of all time,  if I had to actually fight for my life I'm in a Jug.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:47:16 PM EDT
[#43]
P38M Night Lightning
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:49:40 PM EDT
[#44]
P-38, every day, all day long.  Come here Yamamoto!

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Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:53:30 PM EDT
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P-38, just because of this

http://www.top80sgames.com/site/sites/default/files/images/cover/1943arcade.jpg


I just realized that the Battle of Midway was in 1942, not the year used in the title of the video game.
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That's because 1943 was the sequel.

1942 was the first in the series.

They didn't want to have "1942 2" so they just incremented the year by one.  There's also a 1944 and 1945.  After 1945, they started incrementing it with Roman numerals (e.g. 1945 II and 1945 III), and then there were a bunch of ports and special editions that I have no idea how many there are.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:55:44 PM EDT
[#46]
F8F Bearcat would kick all the OP's listed aircraft's ass in a 1v1.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 1:59:12 PM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:01:40 PM EDT
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While the P-40 is my favorite fighter of all time,  if I had to actually fight for my life I'm in a Jug.
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This.  The jug was a flying tank.

Fun fact about the P-40 the original design lead engineer wanted a supercharger but he got switched off the project and they left it off.  If it had the supercharger it would have been the best early fighter of the war instead of just mediocre.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:02:46 PM EDT
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You have to include the variant.  There is a huge difference between an F4U-1 and an F4U-1A.  The P-47 also improved throughout the War.  The only plane on the list that didn't really change is the Hellcat.

If you are allowing the choice of variant I will go with either F4U-4 or P-47N
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You have to include the variant.  There is a huge difference between an F4U-1 and an F4U-1A.  The P-47 also improved throughout the War.  The only plane on the list that didn't really change is the Hellcat.

If you are allowing the choice of variant I will go with either F4U-4 or P-47N
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You can choose whichever generation you prefer.
Link Posted: 7/17/2017 2:04:42 PM EDT
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F8F Bearcat would kick all the OP's listed aircraft's ass in a 1v1.
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Ok if we're going there (aircraft that were developed during WWII but didn't enter service until the very end or soon after) I'll take a P-80 Shooting Star. At least it was in the air doing fighter shit before the end of the war.
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