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Link Posted: 12/15/2022 2:57:26 PM EDT
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Taco.
Link Posted: 12/15/2022 2:57:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Depends on the type of Overlanding I'm doing.

If I'm doing pretty easy trails with lot of camping then the Toyota over the TJ.  If I'm doing some seriously tight trails and rock crawling than I'll take the TJ, which can be customized endlessly to excel in those environments.
Link Posted: 12/15/2022 2:59:31 PM EDT
[#4]
FWIW, I am happy with my wife's JLURD - but she does not share well (hence my buying the LJ).  We have about 150k miles of exploring the US in JLUR's - they are plenty happy on the road.  The JLUR was nice, but lacked a few options we decided life was too short to have.  The JLURD was a full custom order, made about 1hr after the computer allowed the order to be placed and timed with a very narrow production window during Covid.  Jeep has made tons of JLUR's, but they fucked the pooch on the Diesel production - they simply did not want to take the time to make them.


Economically, we should have kept the JLUR - but local politics make it uncomfortable.  People would have talked way to much with us having a pair of nearly identical Jeeps.  Unless you see the Diesel sticker, you can not tell the two apart from the outside.
Link Posted: 12/15/2022 3:09:06 PM EDT
[#5]
For the Upper peninsula I would "overland" when the others have gone home and buy a snowcat.

Link Posted: 12/15/2022 3:16:57 PM EDT
[#6]
This choice really comes down to what you mean by 'overlanding' and where.  I have done a lot of overlanding as it might be described in the western US.  All the trails in Ouray, a lot of trails in Moab including White Rim many times which would be considered the overland trail there,  Mojave Road,  big circuits in Death Valley, etc.  2-door Jeep JK with RTT.  Those kind of trails are pretty much what you can expect for 'overlanding' in the US.  Maximum maybe 3 days off-pavement, if you're going pretty slow about it.  Either Taco or Jeep can do these type of trails fine.  The jeep will have an easier time jumping into the more difficult trails which I would consider 'wheelin' or 'rock crawling'.  Not that a toyota can't rock crawl, and everything can be modified so it becomes more of a game of how much you want to modify etc.  The Taco will be better on pavement, no question.  You will spend a lot of time on pavement getting between these places.  I don't really mind driving the jeep on the road, but it can be kind of crappy in the real high colorado passes going up mountain expressways.  It's a manual so that can make it more annoying constantly downshifting going up grades.  But this is all part of the experience IMO.  Taco will have a lot more space, especially than the 2-door jeep.  However, the size of the jeep keeps us from bringing everything and the kitchen sink so to speak.  We only have a little bit of room so we have to make choices and it's gonna be pared down.

If you are talking about somewhere outside the US there are a whole other group of concerns so I can't really comment on that.

A lot of these photos of huge Earthroamers and things like that make me laugh.  You would for the most part be limited to the most mild of trails due to vehicle size.  Most of the good trails in CO, UT, AZ, CA are narrow.  I have plenty of pinstripes on my jeep which isn't real wide, I've had times when the height of the RTT on the top of the jeep is a problem, or switchbacks which take 2 k-turns to get my 2-door around.  You would just not be able to get an Earthroamer, Sportsmobile, Bed Camper etc. down those trails.  A full-size truck is too large for many of them.

One more thought on this subject, side by side UTVs have come a long way.  They are extremely popular these days in Moab and Colorado at least.  I was watching a whole bunch of stock Can-Ams and Polaris Generals on Hell's Revenge and they absolutely make it look like easy-mode bare-ass stock from the factory.  If you are just interested in hitting trails and having fun then consider a nice full-size pickup (which you could camp in with either a camper top or a bed camper), and tow a decent side by side.  I love my jeep but I have had to put a ton of work into making it tackle the trails that it does and I still have to be concerned about how it's gonna do on the highway.  Compromises abound.  If my jeep were totaled for some reason at this point I'd go with either a Tow Rig/SXS or Tow Rig/Tube Chassis Rock Buggy.

Link Posted: 12/15/2022 3:24:22 PM EDT
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XOverland. My wife and I gave been watching them. Trying to get he to be onboard with overlanding our 1990 Toyota Pickup, lol. Desktogliry gas a sweet truck just like ours.
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i watched this documentary where they took tacomas and 4runners from prudhoe bay, alaska all the way down to tiera del fuego, south america

i'd take the tacoma or a 4runner - can't think of a situation i'd want to drive a jeep more than an hour or two

XOverland. My wife and I gave been watching them. Trying to get he to be onboard with overlanding our 1990 Toyota Pickup, lol. Desktogliry gas a sweet truck just like ours.

i would love to make that drive one day
Link Posted: 12/15/2022 3:25:59 PM EDT
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FWIW, I am happy with my wife's JLURD - but she does not share well (hence my buying the LJ).  We have about 150k miles of exploring the US in JLUR's - they are plenty happy on the road.  The JLUR was nice, but lacked a few options we decided life was too short to have.  The JLURD was a full custom order, made about 1hr after the computer allowed the order to be placed and timed with a very narrow production window during Covid.  Jeep has made tons of JLUR's, but they fucked the pooch on the Diesel production - they simply did not want to take the time to make them.


Economically, we should have kept the JLUR - but local politics make it uncomfortable.  People would have talked way to much with us having a pair of nearly identical Jeeps.  Unless you see the Diesel sticker, you can not tell the two apart from the outside.
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I love my JLUR, purchased in the Spring of 2021 and it's just been a pure joy.

I have the dual top option, so I switch between the hard top for winter and overlanding to my soft-top for general riding around town.  Love that thing. I've been slowly getting it to where I want it.  Jeep really does stand for "Just Empty Every Pocket," but it's something that bring a lot of joy.  They're fun to work on as well, I have never had a car that was more easy to customize out.

Jeeps are basically the AR15 of vehicles.
Link Posted: 12/15/2022 3:36:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/15/2022 4:08:23 PM EDT
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FPNI!

I'd take the van over the Jeep or the Toyota. No tent you need to put up. Plenty of storage that's kept dry without anything extra.
Link Posted: 12/15/2022 4:13:41 PM EDT
[#12]
OP, it’s been decided.   Buy the Taco and post proof.
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