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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:42:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:45:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:49:07 AM EDT
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That's easy, Richard Petty. Also worked on his own cars.
Numbers don't lie. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:50:55 AM EDT
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Clark
Schumacher Earnhardt Verstappen Hamilton is excellent, but I can't stand his shitty attitude, so he doesn't make the list. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:52:10 AM EDT
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Ken Miles
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:55:24 AM EDT
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A.J., Parnelli, Donohue,Fangio, even Paul Newman. Plenty of good ones out there.
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:57:07 AM EDT
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Dick Trickle is the greatest name in racing.
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:58:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySabine had a cool personality. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:04:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Richard petty Richard petty Richard petty Richard petty Everybody else Danica Patrick Jeff Gordon Danica only won one race in indycar, And her best finish in nascar was 7th. And she was the polesitter for one Daytona 500. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:13:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clark Schumacher Earnhardt Verstappen Hamilton is excellent, but I can't stand his shitty attitude, so he doesn't make the list. Certainly hard to argue with Hamilton being one of the greatest F1 drivers. But that’s also the extent of his experience (along with the standard karting and feeder formula series). So I’d say his river isn’t very deep compared to a lot of others he shares the top F1 shelf with. Dan Gurney is probably my personal favorite “greatest”. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:16:33 AM EDT
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Jerry
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:22:20 AM EDT
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John Surtees
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:24:22 AM EDT
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Parnilli Jones
Ivan Stewart Robbie Gordon |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:27:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really sure how you can even name any NASCAR drivers , stupidest form of race driving ever , give me formula one and. Rally car racing any day of the week. I used to think that way, but when NASCAR boys were pitted against the world's best in identical cars in the IROC series, they came out on top quite a lot. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:28:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody dominated any race type like Petty did with NASCAR  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Richard Petty!! Nobody dominated any race type like Petty did with NASCAR There were barely any competition back then. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:29:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:31:00 AM EDT
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Jim Clark
Dan Gurney Phil Hill Juan Fangio Parnelli Jones Sterling Moss |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:34:54 AM EDT
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Judah Ben Hur.
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:37:06 AM EDT
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AJ Foyt
Mario Andretti Richard Petty Fangio Dirt: Steve Kinser |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:37:47 AM EDT
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Foyt, Fangio, Senna, Petty
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:40:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really sure how you can even name any NASCAR drivers , stupidest form of race driving ever , give me formula one and. Rally car racing any day of the week. The only correct answer. NASCRAP is an affront to racing. Fuck left turns. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:40:28 AM EDT
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Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt, Don Garlits, Mario Andretti, Colin McRae.
But there have been many, many other greats before and since. I could make a list 10 miles long of great racers. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:41:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2023 10:42:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to think that way, but when NASCAR boys were pitted against the world's best in identical cars in the IROC series, they came out on top quite a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not really sure how you can even name any NASCAR drivers , stupidest form of race driving ever , give me formula one and. Rally car racing any day of the week. I used to think that way, but when NASCAR boys were pitted against the world's best in identical cars in the IROC series, they came out on top quite a lot. IROC was a nascar stock car with a Camaro body instead of a Monte Carlo. If you take an F1 car and slap a different body on it and throw nascar drivers in there against F1 drivers I know who would win |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:06:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really sure how you can even name any NASCAR drivers , stupidest form of race driving ever , give me formula one and. Rally car racing any day of the week. Next race take a sharp pencil and count every on course pass for the lead. Not in the pits, not fuel or tire strategy, not someone's kamakazi "outbraking" (around here that's called a PIT maneuver) just flat going around someone. It won't take a large piece of paper. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:12:47 AM EDT
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Yes i don't think you can say just one name.
It really depends on era and type of racing. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:14:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Danica only won one race in indycar, And her best finish in nascar was 7th. And she was the polesitter for one Daytona 500. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Richard petty Richard petty Richard petty Richard petty Everybody else Danica Patrick Jeff Gordon Danica only won one race in indycar, And her best finish in nascar was 7th. And she was the polesitter for one Daytona 500. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:19:20 AM EDT
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Never knew this about Rusty Wallace.
Eilliot said he thought he was right on the edge of losing it going 212mph at Talladega in '87. As an equally fearless driver, “Rubberhead” – Wallace’s affectionate nickname given to him by the legendary Dale Earnhardt – reached a mind-boggling 216.309 miles per hour, thundering around the tri-oval track in just 44.270 seconds. https://www.usanetwork.com/usa-insider/whos-the-fastest-driver-in-nascar-history#:~:text=Bill%20Elliott |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:37:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to think that way, but when NASCAR boys were pitted against the world's best in identical cars in the IROC series, they came out on top quite a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not really sure how you can even name any NASCAR drivers , stupidest form of race driving ever , give me formula one and. Rally car racing any day of the week. I used to think that way, but when NASCAR boys were pitted against the world's best in identical cars in the IROC series, they came out on top quite a lot. IROC cars were stock cars on stock car tracks, of course they'd do well. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:45:45 AM EDT
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Parnelli
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Posted: 3/16/2023 11:57:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IROC cars were stock cars on stock car tracks, of course they'd do well. The first year or two of the series, they raced Porsches, if I remember correctly. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 12:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to think that way, but when NASCAR boys were pitted against the world's best in identical cars in the IROC series, they came out on top quite a lot. Not really and apples to apples comparison. Im sure most NASCAR and F1 drivers would get trounced if forced to race a Baja like event in a trophy truck. As to the question at hand it’s hard to answer. Is there as much “creative interpretation” of the rules or even cheating in F1 as there seems to be in NASCAR? |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 12:28:44 PM EDT
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Senna without question.
Manual shifting, no traction control, no ABS. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 12:32:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jim Clark The grand tour did an incredible Jim Clarke tribute. They also did one for Senna when it was top gear iirc. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 12:36:10 PM EDT
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Tommi Makkinen
Ari Vatanen Walter Rohrl Henri Toivonen Patrick Snijers Sorry, but anyone who says nascar is limited. When a driver can do over 100mph on any surface at any weather anytime of year, blind and ever changing conditions the only thing that is similar is formula 1. Rally racing is the ultimate test of a driver, period. You have to be good as a mechanic, listener, reading the terrain, endurance, here’s a big one- turning more than one direction, good at maximizing traction across ALL terrain, good at jumps, good at strategizing, good at acceleration. Good at hills, loading the car for oversteer, understeer controlled slides on gravel at 90mph through trees, improvising mechanical fixes to make the finish. Group B produced some of the very best racing drivers that have ever existed. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 12:49:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tommi Makkinen Ari Vatanen Walter Rohrl Henri Toivonen Patrick Snijers Sorry, but anyone who says nascar is limited. When a driver can do over 100mph on any surface at any weather anytime of year, blind and ever changing conditions the only thing that is similar is formula 1. Rally racing is the ultimate test of a driver, period. You have to be good as a mechanic, listener, reading the terrain, endurance, here’s a big one- turning more than one direction, good at maximizing traction across ALL terrain, good at jumps, good at strategizing, good at acceleration. Good at hills, loading the car for oversteer, understeer controlled slides on gravel at 90mph through trees, improvising mechanical fixes to make the finish. Group B produced some of the very best racing drivers that have ever existed. I think that’s true. If you’re talking about just pure skill and ability, you’re right. But the initial thought experiment when asking Tony Stewart was who would be on the Mount Rushmore of auto racers. I think popularity, longevity, and their influence on their sports plays a huge part in it too. You would have to have Richard Petty on the Mount Rushmore of racers. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 1:11:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that’s true. If you’re talking about just pure skill and ability, you’re right. But the initial thought experiment when asking Tony Stewart was who would be on the Mount Rushmore of auto racers. I think popularity, longevity, and their influence on their sports plays a huge part in it too. You would have to have Richard Petty on the Mount Rushmore of racers. I do respect what the nascar drivers can do |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 1:47:27 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 3/16/2023 1:59:47 PM EDT
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The greatest driver of all time is most likely some guy that drove a car that only made the field by his sheer talent and finished mid pack if it didn't let him down.
Nobody recognized this and he went back to turning wrenches or working on the farm when the team he was driving for folded. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AJ Foyt Won NASCAR and Indy Car. Even ran a few F1 races. Only driver to win the Indianapolis 500 (four times), the Daytona 500, the 24 Hours of Daytona, the 24 Hours of Le Mans and the 12 Hours of Sebring Not a huge fan but I respect what he did. I would vote for AJ |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:03:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AJ Foyt Won NASCAR and Indy Car. Even ran a few F1 races. Only driver to win the Indianapolis 500 (four times), the Daytona 500, the 24 Hours of Daytona, the 24 Hours of Le Mans and the 12 Hours of Sebring Not a huge fan but I respect what he did. Came to post this. That guy could race and beat anyone in anything. Lol at nascar anywhere near the list. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:06:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they are throwing in drag racers . I'd toss Force and replace him with Ronnie Sox , dude was a machine him running a a 4 speed sounded like a car with a Lenco Grumpy Jenkins was no slouch. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:10:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A man of taste, I see. My nominations for consideration: Dan Gurney Mark Donahue Jacky Icks Tom Kristensen Graham Hill Good list, but I would add Foyt to it. He was an asshole, but he could back it up. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:12:34 PM EDT
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The King, Richard Petty!
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:13:52 PM EDT
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For innovation and driving a sport, I'll nominate Don "Big Daddy" Garlits.
He built his own cars and perfected the rear-engine Top Fuel dragster. Garlits was the first drag racer to officially surpass the 170, 180, 200, 240, 250, and 270 mile-per-hour marks in the quarter mile; he was also the first to top 200 mph (320 km/h) in the 1/8 mi (0.20 km). Heck, he was still hitting the strip at age 87. In July 2019 at age 87, he set a new quarter-mile record of 189.03 mph (304.21 km/h) with Swamp Rat 38, a 1,500 lb dragster with a battery-powered 800 hp electric motor. If you are ever in Ocala, FL, his museum is definitely worth the visit. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There were barely any competition back then. They were racing tiny tracks multiple times a week. If you show up at all of them and drive fairly decently, you would dominate. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:16:10 PM EDT
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Force and Petty belong on the list. Anyone who doesn't think so is just wrong.
I think Kinser could justifiably be on there as well Schumacher for sure. AJ Foyt seems to be mandatory as well. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:17:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think this is one of those questions that can never be answered. Many drivers peaked fast but died too soon. Many drivers only races specific types of cars on very specific circuits. Other drivers were very talented during a certain time period but would likely be outclassed by modern drivers. There is just way too many variables. I'll just go with some of my favorite drivers that drove multiple types of cars successfully. Like Mark Donohue or Walter Roehrl. I'll add Rufus Jones as a multi-talented driver. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:18:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like you, other F-1 fans, and even Indy Car road course fans to conduct an experiment. Next race take a sharp pencil and count every on course pass for the lead. Not in the pits, not fuel or tire strategy, not someone's kamakazi "outbraking" (around here that's called a PIT maneuver) just flat going around someone. It won't take a large piece of paper. I like how they added breaks in the racing in nascar, lol. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 2:22:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Certainly hard to argue with Hamilton being one of the greatest F1 drivers. But that’s also the extent of his experience (along with the standard karting and feeder formula series). So I’d say his river isn’t very deep compared to a lot of others he shares the top F1 shelf with. Dan Gurney is probably my personal favorite “greatest”. Hamilton is certainly helped by the team he’s on, but you don’t get that seat unless you are one of the best. He wouldn’t be my first choice for a bank get away driver, but the man does his job as well as anyone in the modern racing sport. |
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