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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:45:16 AM EST
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Well, apparently libertarians in the GOP and liberaltarians who are GOP doners were pushing him to run in 2011. Source Then that famous GD posting, dope loving liberaltarian John McCain has said repeatedly he'd like to see Christie as the nominee, as recently as this week on national television. Just one example That other famous GD poster Ann Coulter (liberaltarian code name:Tacticalmolonlabe) was pushing for him to run back in 2011 as well. Coulter fellating Christie Or, as some of our more brilliant political commentators here would observe: ONLY GD DOPER FUCK LOSERTARIANS ARE PUSHING FOR CHRISTIE IN AN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY THE PARTY!!! NO ONE WHO IS A REAL REPUBLICAN WANTS CHRISTIE AS THE NOMINEE, YOU STUPID DOPER FUCKS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well, apparently libertarians in the GOP and liberaltarians who are GOP doners were pushing him to run in 2011. In the last week, Christie has been swayed away from his earlier refusals to run by an aggressive draft effort from a cadre of Republicans and donors unhappy with the GOP field, said the source, who was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity. Source Then that famous GD posting, dope loving liberaltarian John McCain has said repeatedly he'd like to see Christie as the nominee, as recently as this week on national television. Just one example That other famous GD poster Ann Coulter (liberaltarian code name:Tacticalmolonlabe) was pushing for him to run back in 2011 as well. Coulter fellating Christie Or, as some of our more brilliant political commentators here would observe: ONLY GD DOPER FUCK LOSERTARIANS ARE PUSHING FOR CHRISTIE IN AN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY THE PARTY!!! NO ONE WHO IS A REAL REPUBLICAN WANTS CHRISTIE AS THE NOMINEE, YOU STUPID DOPER FUCKS. Back then, Christie had more of a chance than now... And even then, once he was vetted, he would have been been beat solidly... Coulter did recognize that Christie did make some minor positive course-corrections in NJ... Much of Christies hugging Obama, and other things came later... He was a media-popular fellow Republican... She has since come to her senses, and Coulter never endorsed Christie by name over any other *real* conservative... |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:55:54 AM EST
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Then that famous GD posting, dope loving liberaltarian John McCain has said repeatedly he'd like to see Christie as the nominee, as recently as this week on national television. . John McCain? "Close the gunshow loophole." McCain. That McCain? McCain/Palin, that McCain? Nobody is paying any attention to McCain besides his biggest supporter, Palin, and that is only because he has a big checkbook... John McCain    ... Heck... Coulter carries about a million times more weight than McCain, which might not necessarily be saying much... And she has backed-off on Christie...
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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:57:01 AM EST
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My vuess is the media and unseen power players
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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:57:23 AM EST
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The base of the Republican party. Sorry guys you and we are NOT the base anymore.  True. The "base" started crumbling a long time ago because the conservative component disappeared. Now we have the gop asswipes dissing conservatives as well as tea partiers. The gop is DOA IMO and I fear the choices will be rinos vs. rinos and I'm damn tired of voting for them.  
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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:59:43 AM EST
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:00:03 AM EST
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We don't control our own party!
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:25:55 AM EST
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Reagan gave excellent wisdom and advice on supporting Republicans, even moderates in important R vs D races where it was clear-cut R vs D. Support the conservative in the Primary. Support small course corrections when the trade-off is a complete wrong-direction... Romney wasn't doing anything different in the NJ R vs D race that Reagan wouldn't have done. R vs D support R, then hold their feet to the fire. Reagan was right. Romney was doing the right thing... I disagree with Reagan on a lot of things he did. Amnesty, etc. But I understand his advice on this. The problem is, Romney and Christie aren't republicans. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:27:44 AM EST
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Liberals And liberaltarians and the MSM. awww, cute. You're blaming your failure on others already. WSJ reports that Christie is the leading candidate among Republicans. Libertarians messing with the polls? Or are you just in denial? Libertarians never mess with polls. lol, Yep, blame it on us. If you'd engage your brain, you'd remember that Arfcom as a whole makes a sport of messing with polls. Trying to blame Libertarians for this is just fucking retarded. And entirely expected. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:33:02 AM EST
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LOL, "the only hope".
I'm sure the Governor and a few true believers think of him as" the only hope". A substantial percentage of the people behind the talking heads who are promoting the Governor as a candidate have a much different agenda. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:35:10 AM EST
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Krispie Kreme sent the memo and the meme.
Fat is beautiful. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:35:32 AM EST
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Christy is a big tent government Republican. He's a awsome fiscal conservative, cutting taxes, balancing his budget and taking on the unions but he is a social liberal. You cannot be all things to all people it just doesn't work. I would have loved to see him debate Hillary. Fixed the first sentence, the rest is still full of WTF. Watching Christie debate Hillary would be like watching Hillary debate herself. They are both progressives and they are both supporters of big-gov't in general. They both disregard the parts of the Constitution that they find inconvenient. Both are strong supporters of global warming legislation, both are anti-2A, both support immigration "reform". A moderate Republican in NJ is basically a socialist in most other states. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:45:35 AM EST
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The same people that said the same thing about McCain, Marco Rubio, Scott Brown, Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin.
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Posted: 1/11/2014 5:53:29 AM EST
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Right now, he's winning overall with Republicans. Small numbers, yeah. But he's leading nationally among republicans according to RCP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Liberals And liberaltarians and the MSM. awww, cute. You're blaming your failure on others already. WSJ reports that Christie is the leading candidate among Republicans. Libertarians messing with the polls? Or are you just in denial? Christie isn't beating Haley in South Carolina. Or Rubio in Forida. Or Ryan anywhere else there is a Primary. Christie vs. who? In the "polls" and in what Primary state...??-!!?? I predict (if Christie is stupid enough to run) that Christie wins *zero* western state, and *zero* southern state... He will get destroyed. Ryan vs. Christie in Wyoming? Ryan in a landslide. Ryan vs. Christie in South Carolina? Ryan in a landslide. Political reality is that Christie gets his teeth kicked in if he is stupid enough to run... Right now, he's winning overall with Republicans. Small numbers, yeah. But he's leading nationally among republicans according to RCP. Frankly, I take that as proof that the Republicans have their heads firmly jammed up their asses. Christie meets the standards of acceptability that NE liberals have for a Republican candidate. That means Christie has planks in his platform which are thoroughly unpalatable to Republican and Republican leaning voters in the regions he needs (i.e., the South) in order to win the Presidency. Support for him outside the NE and Left coast will be lukewarm simply because he's basically a Democrat on key wedge issues. To me that means Christie needs 100% of the independent vote, and lots of moderate Democratic votes to win because he cannot realistically count on the Republican base. I do not think he can energize key groups (such as gun owners) who not only comprise a hefty chunk of the Republican base but also pull in independents when a Republican candidate strongly supports gun rights. If Christie is nominated for President he will lose. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 6:18:03 AM EST
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I disagree with Reagan on a lot of things he did. Amnesty, etc. But I understand his advice on this. The problem is, Romney and Christie aren't republicans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reagan gave excellent wisdom and advice on supporting Republicans, even moderates in important R vs D races where it was clear-cut R vs D. Support the conservative in the Primary. Support small course corrections when the trade-off is a complete wrong-direction... Romney wasn't doing anything different in the NJ R vs D race that Reagan wouldn't have done. R vs D support R, then hold their feet to the fire. Reagan was right. Romney was doing the right thing... I disagree with Reagan on a lot of things he did. Amnesty, etc. But I understand his advice on this. The problem is, Romney and Christie aren't republicans. Good grief... Romney's, "no new gun laws" platform was the farthest-right Republican platform on gun rights since, "no one needs anything more than a bolt-action" Barry Goldwater. Flat-out unbelievable. How old are you?!-!? Romney fought Unions his entire life, he presented an anti-amnesty platform, he called for lower-taxes, and never presented a budget in MA that didnt gut social welfare programs as governor... Link Reagan is the real-world standard on electable conservatives. Romney ran to the right of Reagan on unions, immigration, and gun rights... Romney polled better than any conservative Republican in almost every poll in almost every part of the country. In the Republican West, no other potential candidate even stood a chance with Romneys NRA endorsement, his background in business leadership, his background in Olympics leadership, and his far-right religious leadership. No other conservative has resonated with conservatives in the Republican West and some parts of the US as Romney did... That is political reality. The NRA endorsed Romney for doing their bidding as governor of MA. The NRA supported Romney. Link Good grief. Romney called for smaller government and lower taxes in every budget he presented as governor. Link Toeing the NRA line, and calling for cutting the size and scope of government makes Romney a good Republican. Running to the *right* of Reagan on gun rights, unions, and immigration makes Romney a good conservative. Christie is a moderate on his best day. But a Republican moderate nonetheless. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 6:24:36 AM EST
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LOL, "the only hope". I'm sure the Governor and a few true believers think of him as" the only hope". A substantial percentage of the people behind the talking heads who are promoting the Governor as a candidate have a much different agenda. Where does that quote... "The only hope" come from-?-? Where is that quote from? |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 6:26:14 AM EST
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I don't think the left leaning, statist, anti 2A, pro amnesty, Obamaloving fat fuck is going to make it out of the primaries, same thing with Shillary.
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Posted: 1/11/2014 6:28:58 AM EST
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Romney's, "no new gun laws" platform was the farthest-right Republican platform on gun rights since, "no one needs anything more than a bolt-action" Barry Goldwater. Flat-out unbelievable. How old are you?!-!? Romney fought Unions his entire life, he presented an anti-amnesty platform, he called for lower-taxes, and never presented a budget in MA that didnt gut social welfare programs as governor... Link Reagan is the real-world standard on electable conservatives. Romney ran to the right of Reagan on unions, immigration, and gun rights... Romney polled better than any conservative Republican in almost every poll in almost every part of the country. In the Republican West, no other potential candidate even stood a chance with Romneys NRA endorsement, his background in business leadership, his background in Olympics leadership, and his far-right religious leadership. No other conservative has resonated with conservatives in the Republican West and some parts of the US as Romney did... That is political reality. The NRA endorsed Romney for doing their bidding as governor of MA. The NRA supported Romney. Link Good grief. Romney called for smaller government and lower taxes in every budget he presented as governor. Link Toeing the NRA line, and calling for cutting the size and scope of government makes Romney a good Republican. Running to the *right* of Reagan on gun rights, unions, and immigration makes Romney a good conservative. Christie is a moderate on his best day. But a Republican moderate nonetheless. Old enough to not believe the bullshit that you do. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 6:47:21 AM EST
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Christy is a big tent Republican. He's a awsome fiscal conservative, cutting taxes, balancing his budget and taking on the unions but he is a social liberal. You cannot be all things to all people it just doesn't work. I would have loved to see him debate Hillary. Which is precisely why the MSM is trying to sink him early. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 6:48:40 AM EST
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Old enough to not believe the bullshit that you do. But not old enough to understand that Romney's, "No new gun laws" was to the right of every other Republican back to "no need for anything other than a bolt action" Goldwater. You don't have to believe or disbelieve any BS. Look at Reagan's presidential platform on immigration, unions, and guns. Compare it to Romney's presidential platform issue-for-issue... This isn't hocus-pocus. There is no hat and a rabbit here. You can read the NRA in plain-English state how Romney was a breath of fresh air for gun owners in MA. Read what the NRA writes about Romneys pro-gun leadership. http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2004/6/massachusetts-firearms-reform-bill-se.aspx Romney's religious leadership, business leadership, and Olympics leadership resonated with conservative voters in the real-world... That is the real-world. Perfect pure conservative candidates simply do not exist in the real world. They exist in the minds of complete retards and in the dreams of liberal democrats... |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 6:50:03 AM EST
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Where does that quote... "The only hope" come from-?-? Where is that quote from? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL, "the only hope". I'm sure the Governor and a few true believers think of him as" the only hope". A substantial percentage of the people behind the talking heads who are promoting the Governor as a candidate have a much different agenda. Where does that quote... "The only hope" come from-?-? Where is that quote from? 
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Posted: 1/11/2014 7:03:12 AM EST
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LOL, "the only hope". I'm sure the Governor and a few true believers think of him as" the only hope". A substantial percentage of the people behind the talking heads who are promoting the Governor as a candidate have a much different agenda. Where does that quote... "The only hope" come from-?-? Where is that quote from?
Try reading the title of the thread. Take it easy... I thought you were attributing the quote to someone specifically... I was hoping for a reference... Yeah, I have seen Reagan Conservatives support Christie as a fellow Republican in his governorship... Romney has tried to apply Reagan's philosophy and has tried to deflect and defend Christie. Coulter, and many other conservatives supported Christie as governor. But I have yet to see "the only hope" apply to Christie from anyone on the right... I thought you were quoting someone on the right... |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 7:56:54 AM EST
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He wasn't in the debates. Jon Huntsman was though. I guess Stoney didn't like him enough to even get his name right.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really liked Joe Huntsman, but he got zero coverage. I remember that dude saying some pretty herpy derpy shit during the debates... He wasn't in the debates. Jon Huntsman was though. I guess Stoney didn't like him enough to even get his name right. Still a dogshit liberal RINO like turd Gary Johnson and douche Ron Paul. Obviously liberals like you like those progressive RINO shitbags. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 8:03:40 AM EST
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Good grief... Romney's, "no new gun laws" platform was the farthest-right Republican platform on gun rights since, "no one needs anything more than a bolt-action" Barry Goldwater. Flat-out unbelievable. How old are you?!-!? Romney fought Unions his entire life, he presented an anti-amnesty platform, he called for lower-taxes, and never presented a budget in MA that didnt gut social welfare programs as governor... Link Reagan is the real-world standard on electable conservatives. Romney ran to the right of Reagan on unions, immigration, and gun rights... Romney polled better than any conservative Republican in almost every poll in almost every part of the country. In the Republican West, no other potential candidate even stood a chance with Romneys NRA endorsement, his background in business leadership, his background in Olympics leadership, and his far-right religious leadership. No other conservative has resonated with conservatives in the Republican West and some parts of the US as Romney did... That is political reality. The NRA endorsed Romney for doing their bidding as governor of MA. The NRA supported Romney. Link Good grief. Romney called for smaller government and lower taxes in every budget he presented as governor. Link Toeing the NRA line, and calling for cutting the size and scope of government makes Romney a good Republican. Running to the *right* of Reagan on gun rights, unions, and immigration makes Romney a good conservative. Christie is a moderate on his best day. But a Republican moderate nonetheless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reagan gave excellent wisdom and advice on supporting Republicans, even moderates in important R vs D races where it was clear-cut R vs D. Support the conservative in the Primary. Support small course corrections when the trade-off is a complete wrong-direction... Romney wasn't doing anything different in the NJ R vs D race that Reagan wouldn't have done. R vs D support R, then hold their feet to the fire. Reagan was right. Romney was doing the right thing... I disagree with Reagan on a lot of things he did. Amnesty, etc. But I understand his advice on this. The problem is, Romney and Christie aren't republicans. Good grief... Romney's, "no new gun laws" platform was the farthest-right Republican platform on gun rights since, "no one needs anything more than a bolt-action" Barry Goldwater. Flat-out unbelievable. How old are you?!-!? Romney fought Unions his entire life, he presented an anti-amnesty platform, he called for lower-taxes, and never presented a budget in MA that didnt gut social welfare programs as governor... Link Reagan is the real-world standard on electable conservatives. Romney ran to the right of Reagan on unions, immigration, and gun rights... Romney polled better than any conservative Republican in almost every poll in almost every part of the country. In the Republican West, no other potential candidate even stood a chance with Romneys NRA endorsement, his background in business leadership, his background in Olympics leadership, and his far-right religious leadership. No other conservative has resonated with conservatives in the Republican West and some parts of the US as Romney did... That is political reality. The NRA endorsed Romney for doing their bidding as governor of MA. The NRA supported Romney. Link Good grief. Romney called for smaller government and lower taxes in every budget he presented as governor. Link Toeing the NRA line, and calling for cutting the size and scope of government makes Romney a good Republican. Running to the *right* of Reagan on gun rights, unions, and immigration makes Romney a good conservative. Christie is a moderate on his best day. But a Republican moderate nonetheless. I see that you are back in love with Romney again. You seemed to really sour on him when he endorsed Christie a while back. The part in red; were you able to type that with a straight face? |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 8:04:02 AM EST
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Liberals And liberaltarians and the MSM. Yup Free the weed! Free the homos!! Free abortions!!! Free birth control!!! Abolish the military industrial complex and corporate slavers!!!! |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 8:07:47 AM EST
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Liberals This. And of course, their lapdogs. The media. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 8:07:49 AM EST
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Posted: 1/11/2014 8:50:41 AM EST
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I see that you are back in love with Romney again. You seemed to really sour on him when he endorsed Christie a while back. The part in red; were you able to type that with a straight face? Romney was in good conservative company endorsing Christie for Governor against a Democrat... I cannot fault Romney for that. Supporting other Republicans is a Reagan thing to do... Yeah, NBC tried hitting Romney on Christie two-weeks out from the governors race in NJ. As a Reagan Conservative, Romney is going to endorse and support Christie. As I examine Romney's defense of Christie, first he --unsolicited-- supports and endorses Ryan for the White House, then he talks of uniting the party, then supports Christie for the governors election --in two-weeks time--... Yeah, Romney is in good conservative company in supporting the R in a clear-cut R vs. D race... I cannot find fault with any Reagan Conservative supporting the R in a R vs. D race... |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 9:14:50 AM EST
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FPNI The media has controlled the GOP ticket for the last two elections. People were bitching about the media when Reagan was elected, twice. People were bitching about the media when Bush was elected. People were bitching about the media when GWB got elected, twice. People were bitching about the media in 2010 when Obama got shellacked. Its NOT the media. It's the candidate. Get over it, people. We can win with out the media being on the GOP's side. And frankly, the way the GOP is now, I don't want the media on their side. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 9:26:07 AM EST
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Romney was in good conservative company endorsing Christie for Governor against a Democrat... I cannot fault Romney for that. Supporting other Republicans is a Reagan thing to do... Yeah, NBC tried hitting Romney on Christie two-weeks out from the governors race in NJ. As a Reagan Conservative, Romney is going to endorse and support Christie. As I examine Romney's defense of Christie, first he --unsolicited-- supports and endorses Ryan for the White House, then he talks of uniting the party, then supports Christie for the governors election --in two-weeks time--... Yeah, Romney is in good conservative company in supporting the R in a clear-cut R vs. D race... I cannot find fault with any Reagan Conservative supporting the R in a R vs. D race... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see that you are back in love with Romney again. You seemed to really sour on him when he endorsed Christie a while back. The part in red; were you able to type that with a straight face? Romney was in good conservative company endorsing Christie for Governor against a Democrat... I cannot fault Romney for that. Supporting other Republicans is a Reagan thing to do... Yeah, NBC tried hitting Romney on Christie two-weeks out from the governors race in NJ. As a Reagan Conservative, Romney is going to endorse and support Christie. As I examine Romney's defense of Christie, first he --unsolicited-- supports and endorses Ryan for the White House, then he talks of uniting the party, then supports Christie for the governors election --in two-weeks time--... Yeah, Romney is in good conservative company in supporting the R in a clear-cut R vs. D race... I cannot find fault with any Reagan Conservative supporting the R in a R vs. D race... The problem with the republican party is all of the people you have mentioned in this thread. Some of us are able to see that Romney, Christie, Ryan, Jeb Bush, George Bush, ect are all pretty much the same. Mainstream republicans are willing to compromise on any and all of the issues that our founders fought to ensure. From where I sit, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Justin Amash are the only nationally-known R's who are worth voting for. BTW, Romney strongly endorsed Christie because he wanted to, not because he needed to. Christie had a 60 point lead and didn't need Romney's endorsement. Ideologically, these two men are the same which is why Romney endorsed him. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 9:29:47 AM EST
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People were bitching about the media when Reagan was elected, twice. People were bitching about the media when Bush was elected. People were bitching about the media when GWB got elected, twice. People were bitching about the media in 2010 when Obama got shellacked. Its NOT the media. It's the candidate. Get over it, people. We can win with out the media being on the GOP's side. And frankly, the way the GOP is now, I don't want the media on their side. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FPNI The media has controlled the GOP ticket for the last two elections. People were bitching about the media when Reagan was elected, twice. People were bitching about the media when Bush was elected. People were bitching about the media when GWB got elected, twice. People were bitching about the media in 2010 when Obama got shellacked. Its NOT the media. It's the candidate. Get over it, people. We can win with out the media being on the GOP's side. And frankly, the way the GOP is now, I don't want the media on their side. The media certainly has a strong influence and they tend to lean left. Even Fox. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 9:33:32 AM EST
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Take it easy... I thought you were attributing the quote to someone specifically... I was hoping for a reference... Yeah, I have seen Reagan Conservatives support Christie as a fellow Republican in his governorship... Romney has tried to apply Reagan's philosophy and has tried to deflect and defend Christie. Coulter, and many other conservatives supported Christie as governor. But I have yet to see "the only hope" apply to Christie from anyone on the right... I thought you were quoting someone on the right... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL, "the only hope". I'm sure the Governor and a few true believers think of him as" the only hope". A substantial percentage of the people behind the talking heads who are promoting the Governor as a candidate have a much different agenda. Where does that quote... "The only hope" come from-?-? Where is that quote from?
Try reading the title of the thread. Take it easy... I thought you were attributing the quote to someone specifically... I was hoping for a reference... Yeah, I have seen Reagan Conservatives support Christie as a fellow Republican in his governorship... Romney has tried to apply Reagan's philosophy and has tried to deflect and defend Christie. Coulter, and many other conservatives supported Christie as governor. But I have yet to see "the only hope" apply to Christie from anyone on the right... I thought you were quoting someone on the right... I was quoting someone - the author of the thread.
If you spent more time reading and less time regurgitating propaganda about a failed candidate, you wouldn't miss the obvious. Since that will never happen here's a clue: No one gives a damn about WMR. He was a poor candidate. He utterly failed to connect with the voters. He said things that no competent poltician would ever say. As the "culmination" of his disasterous campaign, his GOTV "effort" was a complete failure. He is primarily responsible for handing the current President a second term. Everyone with an ounce of brains recognizes all these things. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 12:46:58 PM EST
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Mainstream republicans are willing to compromise on any and all of the issues that our founders fought to ensure. From where I sit, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Justin Amash are the only nationally-known R's who are worth voting for. BTW, Romney strongly endorsed Christie because he wanted to, not because he needed to. Christie had a 60 point lead and didn't need Romney's endorsement. Ideologically, these two men are the same which is why Romney endorsed him. Reagan compromised with democrats to push conservative ideals forward. Romney dealt with majority-democrats in MA. Romney earned his NRA endorsement by pushing and forcing compromise on liberal Democrats. Link The Founding Fathers who were abolitionists in the North had to compromise with the Founding Fathers who were "Christians" in the South to get the constitution put n paper in the first place. Compromise has been part of the process of our Republic from day-one. Romney used compromise as a tool to push conservative ideals. Same as Reagan. When you don't have a majority, and you want to push your ideals forward... Compromise used effectively is a two-way street... Reagan used it, and the NRA makes-clear in plain-English that Romney used it. I stand with Rand. Lee and Paul (and Chaffetz, and Haley, among others) were the first to fully-endorse Romney's presidency when he officially announced it... I stand with Rand... Romney supports (financially and otherwise) fellow Republicans because he is a good person. Romney's "endorsement" of Christie was also a deflection of an attack by NBC. Romney probably didn't care that Christie was ahead in the polls. Reagan set the example: come to the aid of fellow Republicans. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 1:15:28 PM EST
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Christy is a big tent Republican. He's a awsome fiscal conservative, cutting taxes, balancing his budget and taking on the unions but he is a social liberal. You cannot be all things to all people it just doesn't work. I would have loved to see him debate Hillary. YAWN..... the Jersey Jabba will expedite amnesty. Donut Man will take your guns. please explain to me why I should waste time and gas driving to the polls to vote for him? I mean, I can stay home and get the same result. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 1:15:36 PM EST
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If you spent more time reading and less time regurgitating propaganda about a failed candidate, you wouldn't miss the obvious. . I was just asking for clarification... Yeah, I hadn't seen any conservative leaders say, "only hope" referring to Christie... Just folks with an agenda and a chip on their shoulder, it seems... I thought you were trying to say that a conservative political leader had said, "only hope" referring to Christie. And I did read your post. Your post made it look (to me) that you were tying, "only hope" to conservative leaders. Quoted:
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He was a poor candidate. He utterly failed to connect with the voters. He said things that no competent poltician would ever say. As the "culmination" of his disasterous campaign, his GOTV "effort" was a complete failure. He is primarily responsible for handing the current President a second term. Everyone with an ounce of brains recognizes all these things. Romney is primarily responsible for "G- D- America!" Obama... ?!?! Wow. Unbelievable. Romney effectively presented conservative ideals to the American people. Gun rights, lower taxes, smaller government, and open-markets. Romney effectively argued for *our* side... Reagan and Bush beat Carter because Carter faced Kennedy all the way to a contested convention. Clinton beat Bush because Perot. Obama was a rock-star popular incumbent who was going to be hard to beat from the starting line... Romney did his best, and laid it on the line. Romney could be relaxing on a beach somewhere on an island that he owns. He fought the fight. Now, we need his influence, reach, and money to support conservative issues and candidates. Romney helped fund the 2010 conservative take-over. We know he is an asset on *our* side of the line. Only retards and liberal Democrats want Romney's influence and resources to go away. So, he helped a moderate "R" beat a douche "D" in a liberal state... So what. He helped plenty more "Tea Party" Republicans beat soft Republicans in 2010... The Christie race was R vs. D... There was no other option. Romney did the right thing... And only retards and liberal Democrats want Romney's money and his influence to leave conservative politics... |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 1:16:21 PM EST
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Juni4ling,
Your regurgitation of right-wing talking points and Karl Rove style spin is pretty sad. It would be refreshing to see you post an original thought. Compromise is fine so long as the outcome is within the limits of the Constitution. Most of the compromise between D's and R's in Washington today falls far beyond the Enumerated Powers listed in Article 1, Section 8. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 1:48:29 PM EST
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Juni4ling, Your regurgitation of right-wing talking points and Karl Rove style spin is pretty sad. It would be refreshing to see you post an original thought. Compromise is fine so long as the outcome is within the limits of the Constitution. Most of the compromise between D's and R's in Washington today falls far beyond the Enumerated Powers listed in Article 1, Section 8. Ok... I honestly wish that we had a candidate who was the mixture of Rand, Lee, and Chaffetz. But in the real world, we had a candidate with a background in far-right religious leadership, business leadership, and leadership of the only profitable Olympics in history... With a quiver full of sons who all owned "assault" weapons. That was the best we could do in the real-world... Yeah, I wish we had a candidate who was Rand, Lee, and Chaffetz rolled-into one... But in the real-world we are going to have accept the candidate they immediately fought to endorse over all other choices... The perfect "pure" conservative candidate who can cut all welfare recipients off the dole, and single-handedly replace all sitting Supreme Court Judges with constitutional conservatives... That perfect pure conservative only exists in the minds of retards and in the hopes and dreams of liberal democrats... In the real-world, we would have been lucky to have gotten, "God Bless America!" Romney over "G- D- America!" Obama, even if it meant only moderate course corrections... |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 2:41:31 PM EST
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I really liked Joe Huntsman, but he got zero coverage. I remember that dude saying some pretty herpy derpy shit during the debates... He wasn't in the debates. Jon Huntsman was though. I guess Stoney didn't like him enough to even get his name right. Still a dogshit liberal RINO like turd Gary Johnson and douche Ron Paul. Obviously liberals like you like those progressive RINO shitbags. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 2:58:45 PM EST
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I really liked Joe Huntsman, but he got zero coverage. I remember that dude saying some pretty herpy derpy shit during the debates... He wasn't in the debates. Jon Huntsman was though. I guess Stoney didn't like him enough to even get his name right. Still a dogshit liberal RINO like turd Gary Johnson and douche Ron Paul. Obviously liberals like you like those progressive RINO shitbags. Not to jump in on your conversation, but Dan_Gray seems to make a valid point here. How are Ron Paul and Gary Johnson progressives? Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Chris Christie, Mitt Romney are all much more progressive than someone like Ron Paul. I think a lot of people here don't realize that "right" libertarians (Ron Paul probably fits here) are further to right than typical Republicans. Full disclosure: I've never voted for a Paul in the general election, but I look forward to voting for Rand Paul in 2016. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 3:08:17 PM EST
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I look forward to voting for Rand Paul in 2016. Would we be so lucky. You and me both. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 3:17:54 PM EST
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Only people who haven't paid attention to the past few GOP primaries. He's way too liberal, and he'll either have to own that (and get hammered) or look like he's selling out for the nomination, which ruins his straight talk reputation. And most people won't buy any "evolving views" crap.
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Posted: 1/11/2014 3:19:37 PM EST
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I look forward to voting for Rand Paul in 2016. Would we be so lucky. You and me both. I don't understand how such a passionate supporter of Mitt Romney can be so excited about the proposition of voting for Rand Paul. Paul and Romney are about as far apart ideologically as two republicans can be. I plugged my nose and voted for Romney. It was painful for me. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 3:22:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Leftist media. This. The media has already told us that it will be Christie vs Hillary. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 3:24:37 PM EST
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According to the polls, Christie has a slim lead over both Cruz and Paul. 3-4% The 2016 election is a long caucus/primary season away yet. The midterms will be much more indicative of what we're willing to endure. I believe the producing class is getting sick of all the socialist bullshit and will opt for a return to constitutional/conservative politics. Especially when everybody does their taxes this year and next. 'They' said Regan didn't have a chance.
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Posted: 1/11/2014 3:26:38 PM EST
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The Propaganda Ministry that poses as a free press in this country.
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Posted: 1/11/2014 3:36:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would we be so lucky. You and me both. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I look forward to voting for Rand Paul in 2016. Would we be so lucky. You and me both. If he runs I will vote for him, I said last year that I refused to vote for another RINO and fuck the RINOs |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:15:57 PM EST
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I look forward to voting for Rand Paul in 2016. Would we be so lucky. You and me both. I don't understand how such a passionate supporter of Mitt Romney can be so excited about the proposition of voting for Rand Paul. Paul and Romney are about as far apart ideologically as two republicans can be. I plugged my nose and voted for Romney. It was painful for me. They have been lifelong friends and lifelong political allies. Their fathers go way, way back. Their familial political alliance goes way, way back. If you didnt see Paul Sr. give Romney cover-fire during the Republican mele last year, you were not paying attention. Douche philanderer Gingrich even vocalized a complant against the two... Yeah, Romney presented a budget that called-for gutting the size and scope and cost of government every single year he was governor... And the NRA has made-clear in plain-English that to get *any* movement on guns in MA, it would have to be called a "ban" to the veto-proof Democrata and Romney did it with total-input and total-backing and support from the NRA... It wasnt an accident that Rand backed Romney from the starting-gun... And that is why I think it's funny, "Romney backs Christie..." No, the context was a Governorship race... Taking-place within two weeks... And NBC tried pitting Romney against a fellow Republican. Romney will support Christie to a point. Haley, Rand Paul, Lee, Brewer, and Ryan among others have openly fought for Romney when it has mattered... Come bar-fight time, Christie will be nowhere to be seen, and Romney will fight to hand the a Republican West to Paul/Haley... Or Rubio/Brewer... Or Paul/Ryan... Romney will exercise his sphere of influence, just as Rand did for him...
Yeah, the Romneys and Paul's have been lifelong friends and their friendship goes back a generation... A generation ago, the "libertarian" movement included Skousen and a handful of other Mormons who were shared friends and allies with the Paul's and Romneys... No the cover-fire wasnt an accident. And Paul's starting-gun support and endorsement for Romney wasn't an accident, either... Yeah, I voted NRA-endorsed Romney... Not an ounce of hesitation. Total-support. I gave my time and money to get "G- D- America!" Obama defeated...
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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:17:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Not to jump in on your conversation, but Dan_Gray seems to make a valid point here. How are Ron Paul and Gary Johnson progressives? Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Chris Christie, Mitt Romney are all much more progressive than someone like Ron Paul. I think a lot of people here don't realize that "right" libertarians (Ron Paul probably fits here) are further to right than typical Republicans.
Full disclosure: I've never voted for a Paul in the general election, but I look forward to voting for Rand Paul in 2016. I'm one of the biggest Ron Paul haters on this board, and always have been. As of right now, Rand is someone I could vote for. |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 4:20:16 PM EST
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Never the only hope, just the latest and newest ..
But the news might imply that, they're known to fudge the truth. |
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