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Posted: 1/23/2018 1:17:58 AM EDT
For sake of argument I am declaring soldiers (who fight as a team) and warriors (who fight individually) to be the same.  Who does GD consider to be the most badass warrior in history?  Use whatever definition off "badass" you want.  Is it..

Spartan Warrior-



Japanese Samurai-



Viking Warrior-



Confederate soldier-



WW2 Japanese Soldier-



Waffen SS-



WW2 Russian Soldier-



WW2 Paratrooper-



Modern US Soldier-



Gay Pride protestor (just kidding)-

Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:19:40 AM EDT
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Modern special forces are probably the most formidable warriors the planet has seen.

well nourished,  trained and supplemented and armed to the teeth
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:24:13 AM EDT
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Mongols

End of story.

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-wrath-of-the-khans-series/
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:24:56 AM EDT
[#3]
WW2 Marines
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:26:55 AM EDT
[#4]
Horse mounted Comanche warriors.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:30:33 AM EDT
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Confederate soldier

too bad they weren't better bad ass warriors, they could have won.

Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:33:17 AM EDT
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Other than current SF, I'd say the Polish Winged Hussars.  Check their record against all comers and it was amazing.

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Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:39:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:39:10 AM EDT
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French Foreign Legion

Gurkhas
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:39:37 AM EDT
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Confederate soldier

too bad they weren't better bad ass warriors, they could have won.

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Well, they fought an enemy twice as numerous and much better supplied while managing to take 1/3 fewer KIAs and and about half as many wounded.

That said - I don't think they qualify as the "most badass warriors in history", not by a long shot.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:40:21 AM EDT
[#10]
Gurkha's?
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:40:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2018 1:46:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2018 4:20:44 AM EDT
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Mongols, no one else even comes close.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 4:29:37 AM EDT
[#14]
Social justice warriors are the most badass ever.

Link Posted: 1/23/2018 4:37:05 AM EDT
[#15]
In all seriousness, one guy particularly came to mind:







Colonel John Ripley, USMC- read his story if you want to see someone that embodies badass.  Navy Cross recipient Force Recon officer who is the only guy to graduate BUD/S, the Army's Vietnam era SOF pipeline, the British Royal Marines course, and the Marine Corps Amphibious Reconnaissance Course.

And just a generally standup guy.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 4:39:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2018 4:58:34 AM EDT
[#17]
You left out the Roman legionaries. Easily one of the top most professional, accomplished and badass militaries the world has ever seen.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 6:31:27 AM EDT
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Well, they fought an enemy twice as numerous and much better supplied while managing to take 1/3 fewer KIAs and and about half as many wounded.

That said - I don't think they qualify as the "most badass warriors in history", not by a long shot.
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Confederate soldier

too bad they weren't better bad ass warriors, they could have won.

Well, they fought an enemy twice as numerous and much better supplied while managing to take 1/3 fewer KIAs and and about half as many wounded.

That said - I don't think they qualify as the "most badass warriors in history", not by a long shot.
Per NPS.gov...

Union combat deaths: 110,100
Confederate combat deaths: 94,000

So, the Confederates suffered 14.6% fewer KIAs.

Union combat wounded: 275,174
Confederate combat wounded: 194,026

29.5% fewer combat wounded.

It is important to note however that the North was on the offensive 90% of the conflict - in many cases attacking well entrenched Confederates with good interior lines. Not to mention, in the South's home territory. When the Confederate army went on the offensive in the summer of 1863 (in the North's home territory), the Army of Northern Virginia suffered 24% more KIAs than the Army of the Potomac at Gettysburg.

For the record, I'm not discounting Confederate bravery or skill in battle, but the difference in KIAs and WIAs are primarily due to the fact that (as mentioned above) the Union army was on the offensive pretty much the entire war. The North had to completely dislodge the Confederate armies to win - all the South had to do to win was dig in and hold the line. So, it's not that shocking they suffered more KIAs than the Confederates did.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 6:47:25 AM EDT
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You left out the Roman legionaries. Easily one of the top most professional, accomplished and badass militaries the world has ever seen.
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This.

Especially the 10th (Legio X Equestris) and the 14th (Legio XIV Gemina).

Killing machines.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 7:06:51 AM EDT
[#21]
MACV SOG was pretty badass.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 7:10:33 AM EDT
[#22]
genghis khan and his crew
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 7:22:27 AM EDT
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Modern special forces are probably the most formidable warriors the planet has seen.

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This.  Modern SOF types are like scalpels.

For their time, mongols Genghis Khan type were the shit.

Or Frank, that fucker will gouge their eyes out.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 7:26:30 AM EDT
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It’s 100% NOT the Confederate soldier. Stupid to even consider it.

Correct answer is / are the various Western tier 1 guys from the US, UK, Australia/NZ , Frnance, Germany etc.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 7:30:33 AM EDT
[#25]
Von Lettow Vorbeck.

Keeping hundreds of thousands of clown allied troops busy for years.

BALLS.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:20:37 AM EDT
[#26]
Modern tier one guys for small units
75th Rangers for larger ops.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:23:58 AM EDT
[#27]
Those German paratroopers that took Crete.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:33:31 AM EDT
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Can't believe no one said Rhodesian's yet.

I'm gonna go with the Swiss Guard at the Stand of the Swiss Guard
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:41:18 AM EDT
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Spartans given that it was part of their social construction.
Competition literally started from the moment you were born. Formation and toughness from a very early age.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:44:35 AM EDT
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Those German paratroopers that took Crete.
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And the German paratroopers who defended the Bocage in France and Monte Cassino in Italy - they were tenacious fighters.

Honestly, the German fighting man and his commanders of World War II outperformed the U.S., Britain, and Russians both offensively and defensively by a huge margin throughout almost the entire war.

The Wehrmacht in general deserves a spot on the list, not just the elite units.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:46:35 AM EDT
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Spartans given that it was part of their social construction.
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I think they're a tad overrated, this guy makes a good argument to that end.

Misunderstood Moments in History - The Spartan Myth
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:49:48 AM EDT
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Other than current SF, I'd say the Polish Winged Hussars.  Check their record against all comers and it was amazing.

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Sabaton-Winged Hussars (Polskie Napisy)


Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:50:42 AM EDT
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this guy

Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:53:10 AM EDT
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 And the 7th at the Frozen Chosin.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 8:57:06 AM EDT
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Audi Murphy. The only American so badass that the only person that was able to play Audie Murphy in the autobiographical movie based on Audie Murphy, was Audie Murphy.

Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:07:11 AM EDT
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I wonder if they can come out and play?
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:19:43 AM EDT
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As far as modern forces, maybe throw SAD in there?

Selecting candidates from a an elite pool across many forces.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:20:09 AM EDT
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Other than current SF, I'd say the Polish Winged Hussars.  Check their record against all comers and it was amazing.

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I was going to post this.  If half the stories are true they are perhaps the most badass in history.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:28:45 AM EDT
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genghis khan and his crew
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Reading a book about this now, but I'm not educated enough to know about all these other warriors I'm hearing about in this thread.  Amazing what he did.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:38:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:41:16 AM EDT
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Audi Murphy. The only American so badass that the only person that was able to play Audie Murphy in the autobiographical movie based on Audie Murphy, was Audie Murphy.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Audie_Murphy.jpg
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This. And he did it all before he was 20.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:44:31 AM EDT
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Ninjas. Duh.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:47:34 AM EDT
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Mongols
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:47:41 AM EDT
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The Macedonian army under Alexander the Great and his successors.

If you want to get more specific the silver shields.  Alexander’s elite unit under him amd his immediate successors.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:52:22 AM EDT
[#45]
Gary Gordon
Randy Shughart
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:53:07 AM EDT
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I think they're a tad overrated, this guy makes a good argument to that end.

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A tad exagerated for sure, as everything that ends up in Hollywood movies. But then again some nobody doint a youtube video doesnt change the fact that they were impressive warriors that had their people trained for war from a very early age. Maybe less refined (and also romanticised and exaggerated by Hollywood) Vikings were people that also had their lives revolve around soldiering.
Also the video is biased as fuck and at times downright lies. So the Agoge was all about dancing and poetry and not combat?. GTFO
Today it would be child abuse to have a kid trained for combat and beaten the crap out of to toughen them up, but psychological damage aside I bet such approach ended up with pretty badass warriors.
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:53:53 AM EDT
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Recent history, I submit.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2017/11/boston_green_beret_amputee_set_for_another_tour?amp

Not once after his right leg shattered in Afghanistan in 2013, during a year of surgeries and the months spent learning to walk on a prosthetic leg, did Sgt. 1st Class Nicholas Lavery consider settling for a medical discharge or ending his Army career behind a desk.

“I never went through a phase like that,” the 35-year-old Green Beret weapons sergeant said. “Within a couple of minutes, I acknowledged the fact that this was my reality.”

By 2015, Lavery was back in Afghanistan, the first special operator to return to combat as an above-the-knee amputee.

“My reasons for staying were the same as the ones I enlisted,” the 6-foot-5 Kingston native said. “I made an oath to protect my country.”
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Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:54:52 AM EDT
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Roman centurions
Link Posted: 1/23/2018 9:56:37 AM EDT
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SOG in Vietnam.
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