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Posted: 9/10/2022 11:28:37 PM EDT
From a vid I watched about the coronation ceremony of...well...you know.

What's up with these ginormous fur covered helmets anyway?

Like, what's the deal?

Was there some war, two or three hundred years ago, in which the British Army found it somehow advantageous to wear helmets that were, like, 8 feet tall?

I mean, really?

I don't get it.

Discuss the shit.



Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:31:19 PM EDT
[#1]
It keeps your head warm and your neck strong.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:32:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:33:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Taller making them look more menacing, and the hats were made of bearskin. Horses don't like the smell, which makes it effective against cavalry, or at least that's the story I've read.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:33:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Ask DK, I think he had one.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:33:46 PM EDT
[#5]
Why u no like busbys?
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:34:34 PM EDT
[#6]
That’s where they keep the mutton and spare pint.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:34:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Ceremonial wear by elite royal Guard forces. Pomp and circumstance fanfare.


Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:36:17 PM EDT
[#8]
It’s traditional.
It signifies when a Brit soldier gets his head stuck in his miss’s snatch. One soldier in particular was in so deep, never to be found again. He is honored with the womb of the unknown soldier.

Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:36:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Since we’re only on page one, we can’t discuss the ass kicking, name taking, trophy action.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:39:03 PM EDT
[#10]
It makes them tall and scary to 3rd world morons being colonized?
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:40:47 PM EDT
[#11]
The hats look stupid but the worst part of them is the chinstrap that is worn above the chin. Looks ridiculous, no function.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:41:50 PM EDT
[#12]
"Why Does The British Army Have Giant Fur Helmets?"

Well....... because........ fur gloves and fur socks would just be retarded

Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:43:34 PM EDT
[#13]
One unit does not equal the entire army, but carry on...
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:43:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Its a Day Pack.



Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:44:52 PM EDT
[#15]
Analogous to balls in britain
They want to show off pretending how big they are, but really dont do much and have been taking orders from a woman for years
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:45:34 PM EDT
[#16]
now a honor guard thread.....

Changing of Guards, Athens (2017)
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:47:14 PM EDT
[#17]
They took the bear fur helmets from the French, and they earned the opportunity, haven’t given them back since.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:47:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:47:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Synthetic now but those used to be real bear fur.  Those were for ceremonies only.

Think of the black powder days, rows of soldiers shoulder to shoulder firing en mass.  When there was no breeze the smoke immediately became like a fog.  Then there would be more bayoneting and 'hand to hand' than shooting.  Identifying each other was critical, hence the many uniform designs which seem silly today.
Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:48:43 PM EDT
[#20]
Boy OP, have I got something for you to ponder.

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Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:53:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:56:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2022 11:57:03 PM EDT
[#23]
I bet those things in the summer time are absolutely brutal
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:00:39 AM EDT
[#24]
To swab out a cannon barrel in a pinch
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:02:35 AM EDT
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You have a citation for that?

Denmark experimented with synthetic as early as the late 50s, but concluded it wouldn't work. Currently  the black bears used for the skin are sourced from Poland.

I believe Britain tried some synthetics in the 2000s, but my understanding was that it similarly went nowhere, and actual bear skin is still used.  I believe the British army gets their raw bear skins from Canada.
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Synthetic now but those used to be real bear fur.



You have a citation for that?

Denmark experimented with synthetic as early as the late 50s, but concluded it wouldn't work. Currently  the black bears used for the skin are sourced from Poland.

I believe Britain tried some synthetics in the 2000s, but my understanding was that it similarly went nowhere, and actual bear skin is still used.  I believe the British army gets their raw bear skins from Canada.


The five regiments of the Guards Division (Grenadier Guards,
Coldstream Guards,
Scots Guards, Irish Guards, Welsh Guards) plus the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards,
Honourable Artillery Company, and King's Royal Hussars still wear the bearskin cover. Enlisted wear skins taken from the Canadian black bear, officers from Canadian brown bears.

The tradition goes back to Waterloo. The 1st Foot Guards of Wellington’s army fought against the French Imperial Guard, who wore bearskin caps. They whooped their asses, and as a tribute, incorporated the bearskin into the dress uniform. It started with the Coldstream and Grenadier Guards, I believe, and then migrated to the other regiments.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:03:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:03:37 AM EDT
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Having served in a unit with bear skin hats, those are the two prevailing theories/stories that I have heard.

[Bear skin hats were part of my regiment's combat uniform in the 1800s. (Denmark, not Britain),and the uniforms worn at the Royal palaces today are [essentially those uniforms.

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-> see avatar for 1700’s ‘Mercian version of tyranny repellent.

No furry hats








Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:05:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:07:37 AM EDT
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That was my impression as well.

I have not heard anything about synthetics being used.
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Synthetic now but those used to be real bear fur.



You have a citation for that?

Denmark experimented with synthetic as early as the late 50s, but concluded it wouldn't work. Currently  the black bears used for the skin are sourced from Poland.

I believe Britain tried some synthetics in the 2000s, but my understanding was that it similarly went nowhere, and actual bear skin is still used.  I believe the British army gets their raw bear skins from Canada.


The five regiments of the Guards Division (Grenadier Guards,
Coldstream Guards,
Scots Guards,
Irish Guards,
Welsh Guards) plus the
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards,
Honourable Artillery Company, and
King's Royal Hussars still wear the bearskin cover. Enlisted wear skins taken from Canadian black bear, officers from Canadian brown bears.

The tradition goes back to Waterloo.


That was my impression as well.

I have not heard anything about synthetics being used.


It wasn't from lack of trying. It still pisses PETA off.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:10:07 AM EDT
[#30]
They did trial synthetics. Stuck up in the rain, static etc
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:18:23 AM EDT
[#31]
It keeps your attention away from the world class sh!tty rifles they've been fielding since WWII. They went from the best battle rifle of the war, the SMLE. To all those stupid bullpups. When HK 'fixed' them they threw away everything but the sheet metal receiver and replaced everything else.A
Wonder if the palace guards could have every defended the Queen/King from anything except obnoxious American tourists.
OOO, cool hats man.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:26:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:26:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:30:12 AM EDT
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Texture on these are very fine. Like woven feathers.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:40:23 AM EDT
[#35]
Pomp and ceremony
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 12:57:26 AM EDT
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It keeps your attention away from the world class sh!tty rifles they've been fielding since WWII. They went from the best battle rifle of the war, the SMLE. To all those stupid bullpups. When HK 'fixed' them they threw away everything but the sheet metal receiver and replaced everything else.A
Wonder if the palace guards could have every defended the Queen/King from anything except obnoxious American tourists.
OOO, cool hats man.
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Their best rifle was the L1A1...

PERIOD>


Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:20:07 AM EDT
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It keeps your head warm and your neck strong.
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That FPNI thing...
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:30:46 AM EDT
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You have a citation for that?

Denmark experimented with synthetic as early as the late 50s, but concluded it wouldn't work. Currently  the black bears used for the skin are sourced from Poland.

I believe Britain tried some synthetics in the 2000s, but my understanding was that it similarly went nowhere, and actual bear skin is still used.  I believe the British army gets their raw bear skins from Canada.
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I read somewhere that most of those headgear are decades old and carefully tended to in order to extend their useful lifespan
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:39:32 AM EDT
[#39]
I've read brief anecdotes that the tricorn hat fell "out of style" in the early 19th century and these types of headdress are what replaced them.

I just don't understand why. Even if I personally think the British Red Coats and Colonial Regulars looked pretty bad ass for their times, I get that people thought the tricorn looked old or whatnot. But how were these marge simpson hair looking things cooler looking to them? At least the Tricorn had some utility at deflecting rain. These buffalo bumps would just get heavier as they got wet.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 3:56:24 AM EDT
[#40]
I never understood the point of a chin strap that isn’t used.

I wonder if it was meant to be used only when on horseback or maybe like a peace strap on a sword or a hood on a pole arm, the strap isn’t used to signify peaceful intentions?

Link Posted: 9/11/2022 5:28:38 AM EDT
[#41]
Did it have any relation to using bright and colorful headwear in battle to make it easier for commanders to distinguish particular units?

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It’s traditional.
It signifies when a Brit soldier gets his head stuck in his miss’s snatch. One soldier in particular was in so deep, never to be found again. He is honored with the womb of the unknown soldier.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2022 5:30:47 AM EDT
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Something, something, if you're brave enough
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 6:00:42 AM EDT
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Because it is tradition and it is the King's Guards.

Besides, there were talk for going artificial bear skins for the hats but there where issues with manufacturing the new bear skins hat since they couldn't last long.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 6:33:49 AM EDT
[#44]
Tradition.
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 6:45:05 AM EDT
[#45]
It's a chick magnet.

Link Posted: 9/11/2022 7:04:04 AM EDT
[#46]
They don’t like ops core
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 7:07:58 AM EDT
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It’s traditional.
It signifies when a Brit soldier gets his head stuck in his miss’s snatch. One soldier in particular was in so deep, never to be found again. He is honored with the womb of the unknown soldier.

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Lol
Link Posted: 9/11/2022 7:08:38 AM EDT
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It's a chick magnet.

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Chicks are all about shiny pickelhaubes.

Fact.

Link Posted: 9/11/2022 7:15:39 AM EDT
[#49]
It's not as bad as the Israelis mushroom looking helmet

Link Posted: 9/11/2022 7:27:23 AM EDT
[#50]
Little known fact:

They wear matching panties

True story
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