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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:52:02 PM EST
Aside from a vendor selling Magpul, and another Aero Precision / Holosun products this is an example of the pricing I see at gun shows.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:53:13 PM EST
[#1]
 I went to one for the first time in years last weekend. 80% of the stuff there was cheap Chinese shit. Powder wise I saw h1000 for 90 bucks a lb and just crazy ammo prices. There was also a table of nothing but psa rifles 200 bucks or so more expensive than psa pricing. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:54:53 PM EST
[#2]
That is nuts.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:55:09 PM EST
[#3]
Meh, someone will buy it or they won't. Prices are hardly the reason I don't go to gun shows anymore. Nothing but tables of cheap Chinese optics and shit that doesn't belong at a gun show is why I don't go.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:55:23 PM EST
[#4]
Yeah, but where else will you get an Uncle Mike’s holster for your Taurus and some beef jerky at the same time?
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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:56:28 PM EST
[#5]
That's pretty crazy but somebody will buy it. Varget has been hard to get for several years. Same as primers nowadays.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:57:14 PM EST
[#6]
Gun shows have been as disappointing for me as pawn shops. It is like banging my head on a concrete wall. It feels so good when I stop.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 2:58:54 PM EST
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They're still pretty good in Iowa, tho the last couple of years has had an impact. A number of the dealers that used to work the show circuit have either retired or stopped going simply because they don't have product to sell. I can still find deals, but it takes patience, effort, and a knowledge of what you're looking at. I buy almost all of my stuff used, most of it at shows. Yes, there are knuckleheads that think they're selling the crown jewels and there's still a fair number of the old timers that sit and talk with each other the entire weekend then bitch they didn't sell anything. But sleuthing through the shows is still fun.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:00:15 PM EST
[#8]
Once upon a time in the late 1980's and early 1990's a gun show was where you went to find either a bargain, or that rare item that some old codger has kept in the closet for 20 years.
Then legislation, greed, ATF crackdowns, and outright dishonesty turned gun shows into cesspools of people offloading broken shit they know they can only sell to people who don't look too closely, or overpriced merchandise (again) marketed to the unwary. The only firearms I would buy at a gun show would be NIB ones from a licensed FFL. That is probably the one place you can still get a bargain if it's a case where the dealer is overstocked, for example. I got a S & W Shield pretty much at the wholesale price three years ago because it was obvious the dealer had a display case full of them and was in need of some sales. The last thing I bought at a gun show was an N1 stock that looked minty and was being sold at a bargain price. Those two things are probably all I've bought at a gun show in 10 years. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:01:44 PM EST
[#9]
Gun shows have been just about as horrible for me as pawn shops
Generally expensive junk |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:05:39 PM EST
[#10]
Gun shows are just churches to spread the fudd lore & maintain the cult of 30 cal.
A couple of tables of modern pistols, a bunch of wood stocked long guns, a few tables of parts/pieces/holsters/jerky & a table of cringe chinesium gear. Hard boo. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:05:52 PM EST
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And many I went to, even a few years ago, were a bunch of old men standing around complaining to each other that no one was buying anything...
Never occurs to them that people aren't idiots and aren't going to give you a couple hundred dollar premium for the privilege of buying something used when a store less than 5 minutes away sells it for less. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:05:54 PM EST
[#12]
I have one of the better gun shows in Ohio a mile and a half from my house (Medina Gun show) and haven’t been to it in 15 years because of BS like that. I use to go 6 times a year. Do not miss it.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:07:21 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but where else will you get an Uncle Mike’s holster for your Taurus and some beef jerky at the same time? Don’t forget the authentic Nazi memorabilia. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:07:23 PM EST
[#14]
I stopped going a few years ago. $15 parking and $25 entrance, with no deals to be found.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:08:07 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gun shows have been as disappointing for me as pawn shops. It is like banging my head on a concrete wall. It feels so good when I stop. They have been bad for at least 20+ years. Basically they did when the internet came around. Also lack of surplus means they are just selling over priced Chinese junk |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:08:49 PM EST
[#16]
@NwVolk and stainlessrat
Nailed it. Geezer Fudd fests where sellers can stand around overcharging for crap and then complain to each other that no one is buying. Yup. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:11:15 PM EST
[#17]
facial recognition apps and license plate scanners
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:12:26 PM EST
[#18]
I don't go often, especially since I moved out to the country.
However, I'd rather go to a Fun show by myself or with a friend than spend anytime at the mall with the wife and or kids, especially the kids.. I consider the 10-15 bucks just the cost of a few hours of entertainment. Hardly ever bought anything, just enjoyed looking to see whats out there and what kinda crazy prices people are wanting. Also at the much bigger shows, you can stop by the ATFs table and troll them. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:13:14 PM EST
[#19]
About once every 10 years I try a Fig Newton and then remember why I abstained for 10 years.
Same with gun shows. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:13:29 PM EST
[#20]
I bought a S&W pre model 10 in very good condition for $400 and Colt Cobra (not as good of condition as the S&W for $450) at the little 75 table show in my hometown.
Also a Bianchi holster for $15 and a homemade breakfast sandwich for $4. Indiana gunshows are great! |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:16:23 PM EST
[#21]
Same as ANY local shop.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:16:24 PM EST
[#22]
I haven't been to a gun show since the early 1990's.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:16:47 PM EST
[#23]
i went to a gun show in early December looking for a specific rifle.Good show,lots of merchandise but prices were pretty high,especially ammo,ARs and AKs.Noone had the rifle I was looking for.Told my wife we'd make one more lap around and head for the exit............saw a fellow up ahead with a rifle on his shoulder.....looks like a .......oh,hell yes....exactly what I was looking for.........paid the man a fair price and headed home........
 first gun how I'd been to in 10 years......... |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:22:52 PM EST
[#24]
Most local gunshows, I completely agree with you.
Then there's the Wanenmacher show in Tulsa, OK. Twice a year, 4500 tables. It's really the place to find weird, whacky, and one off firearms for your collection. One giant 11 acre room full of guns. Fantastic show, and worth the trip if you can do it. Next one is in early April. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:23:08 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have been bad for at least 20+ years. Basically they did when the internet came around. Also lack of surplus means they are just selling over priced Chinese junk Yep. The internet killed them. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:25:49 PM EST
[#26]
i go for the jerky, i stay for the dream catchers.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:28:32 PM EST
[#27]
In case you don't know, Varget has been the hardest powder to find for like, three years.
That's not even a 100% markup (aka double). Primers routinely sell at a 400% markup over pre panic sale prices. That's not super unreasonable in my book. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:47:32 PM EST
[#28]
Beats $1000 for 8lbs of Retumbo.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:48:57 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most local gunshows, I completely agree with you. Then there's the Wanenmacher show in Tulsa, OK. Twice a year, 4500 tables. It's really the place to find weird, whacky, and one off firearms for your collection. One giant 11 acre room full of guns. Fantastic show, and worth the trip if you can do it. Next one is in early April. Agree 100%. Wanenmachers is a terrific show. Tons of cool, rare, off the wall stuff, with a modicum of newer stuff and some non gun junk. Have been several times and always enjoyed myself. Even bought a few guns and gear over the years. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:50:27 PM EST
[#30]
How was the beef jerky selection?
You always have to be prepared for the unexpected smell of beef jerky burps. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:51:00 PM EST
[#31]
The smell
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:52:41 PM EST
[#32]
Yup the local gun shows here are mostly Chinese bullshit, ridiculously priced ammo, and tables full of marked up PSA daily deals stuff.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:54:20 PM EST
[#33]
I remember going in the early 2000's and paying $250 for a WASR. Wish I'd bought a truckload of them. There was one old guy there that had a table every time, and was just selling off his collection because his kids were assholes. I bought several revolvers from him. Then there was another guy that had three consecutive number Hi-Powers, all in nickel. I went again a few months back, just for the hell of it. Dude still has the Hi-Powers for sale.
I did manage do dump three Springfield XD's to other people attending the show. Got more than the local shop would pay for them. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:56:09 PM EST
[#34]
I go to shows for older & used stuff. Parts, ammo cans, mags can be had at reasonable prices if you know what to look for. Plus the food is xlnt. and the beer is cheap.
Just kidding on that last part. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:56:17 PM EST
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Gun shows used to be strictly "gun" shows. Now you get purses, jewelry, crystals, quilts, and all sorts of non-gun junk taking up half the tables (sometimes more than half). I get it that as ATF cracked down on "unlicensed dealers" (their term) it became necessary to fill the void left by private collectors being spooked into staying away, but Jeez. Maybe some marketing genius thought the way to increase gun show traffic was to give the wives and girlfriends reason to go with their S.O.'s, but I think it's had the opposite effect. You go to a gun show now and it's the same ten dealers with the same overpriced inventory they were trying to sell at the last several shows. The joy of gun shows was at the tables where private collectors were selling their guns. A lot of times that's where you'd get the rare, discontinued, pre-ban, one-of-a-kind, low-serial-numbered whatchacallit. Now those same tables will have knives, holsters, tasers, handmade clocks, comic books, and all sorts of other non-gun crap.
A good gun show is where you walk out a little bit sad that you didn't have enough money to buy every good gun you saw and wanted. I've not had that feeling in about twenty years. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:57:09 PM EST
[#36]
 I don't reload but I'm guessing that's not even worth $100 |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 3:59:50 PM EST
[#37]
White trash only.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:00:27 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i went to a gun show in early December looking for a specific rifle.Good show,lots of merchandise but prices were pretty high,especially ammo,ARs and AKs.Noone had the rifle I was looking for.Told my wife we'd make one more lap around and head for the exit............saw a fellow up ahead with a rifle on his shoulder.....looks like a .......oh,hell yes....exactly what I was looking for.........paid the man a fair price and headed home........ first gun how I'd been to in 10 years......... This is the only reason I go anymore. Might find someone walking around with something interesting. 
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:01:02 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't reload but I'm guessing that's not even worth $100 About 200 or so in the 'old' days |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:02:17 PM EST
[#40]
Went to one for the first time in ten years a couple of months ago. It was pretty sad compared to ones I'd been to 10-20 years ago. I did manage to sell something for a good price to another attendee, so that's good.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:03:28 PM EST
[#41]
Haven't been to one in 27 years. The internet, it's a thing.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:04:37 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't reload but I'm guessing that's not even worth $100 1 pound is typically $45 for Varget. OP posted an 8lb jug. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:04:47 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't reload but I'm guessing that's not even worth $100 Look at closed sales on Gunbroker. Average is around $75 a pound. $450 for an eight pounder is about the going rate. Varget is extremely popular and has been hard to find for several years. Pre-panic it usually ran about $20 a pound, if you could find it. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:06:42 PM EST
[#44]
If he is the only one that has it and somebody wants it bad enough they will buy it.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:06:53 PM EST
[#45]
Shows in my area were great back in the 90s. Motivated sellers would offer some screaming good deals on Sunday afternoon when it was time to pack up. That changed in the early 00's and got progressively worse. $25 or so to get in the door with parking, and no deals to be found. I only go when one of my gun buddies drags me along.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:07:50 PM EST
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Quoted: It's like they don't realize the internet exists. Knowing how to produce useful information with Internet access is still a fairly rare and mysterious skill in 2022. People used to talk like future generations would be full of tech wizards but things really seem to be going the other direction. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:09:19 PM EST
[#47]
I haven't bothered going to a gun show in years....most of the local ones in my area have always been less than impressive anyway.
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:09:57 PM EST
[#48]
I have snagged a LOT of stuff from walk in's right after they walk in the door. I've had a couple of vendors get pissed as hell at me too. Not like they are going to give them a better off, I just sniped faster.
I had a couple vendors who were friends who would call me if they saw something I would likely buy and I snagged some VERY nice GI 1911s that way over the years cheap. One would buy it and then call me and make a quick $50 without doing anything but the 4473, he didn't deal in them but he did know what to look for. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:10:43 PM EST
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Same tired guns, same tired sellers.
They used to be fun. I snagged a few deals. Now they're just places to look at overpriced shit and very, very occasionally snag a bargain. |
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Posted: 2/22/2022 4:15:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a S&W pre model 10 in very good condition for $400 and Colt Cobra (not as good of condition as the S&W for $450) at the little 75 table show in my hometown. Also a Bianchi holster for $15 and a homemade breakfast sandwich for $4. Indiana gunshows are great! The last couple I've been to have been rather weak. Maybe a different part of the state? |
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