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Posted: 9/26/2018 9:37:57 PM EDT
WTF did I do?
I am jumping my 1984 Mercedes 300d from my Honda civic. Battery on the Mercedes is super dead. Verified polarity. Mercedes tries to turn over, but not getting enough juice. I checked the cables for good connection and noticed they are more than warm Not an expert, but I have used jumper cables many times. Never noticed this before. Is this because the Mercedes is a beast and pulling lots of current from the Civic? |
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Pulling more current than the wire thickness is rated for at that length. Good jumper cables are fucking thick and heavy. Pick up a jump pack. Best money ever spent.
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Use two sets of cables so they don't have as much current going through each set
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Stop buying cheap jumper cables, the cheapos have a higher gauge of wire (Means less copper) and will not be able to handle the full amount of current going through them.
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Amps, resistance, voltage and all that jazz.
get bigger cables or clean the connections |
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The cables in my Civic are cheap. Have better one's in the Pilot, but the wife has it now - carting kids around
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Cheap Wal-Mart cables, total junk.
If they're good cables, buy new battery for dead car, cell shorted out. Edit: If you're jumping it every day maybe you should get a new battery, ya think? |
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You should be pulling the battery and putting it on a regular charger unless you're stranded.
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Your battery may have a shorted cell -- or two. It could be dangerous.
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Could be a bad connection between the cable and clamp, but not likely.
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Heat comes from resistance.
Resistance comes from several places...cables too small, poor connections, too much draw for the cables, cars touching, bad battery, and so on. The big things- make sure the cars are not touching. Ensure a rock solid connection to the terminals. Go terminal to terminal instead of a heavy metal engine part. Also...never loop a cable over itself and ensure the cables are dry, clean, and undamaged....not kinked or crushed anywhere. |
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High compression OM617 diesel engine vs dinky Honda Civic alternator plus undersized cables = lots of heat. Been there, done that.
I suggest leaving the cables on and let the battery charge for 10-20mins before attempting a start. |
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I checked the cables for good connection and noticed they are more than warm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I jumped it yesterday with heavier cables. I noticed them getting a little warm |
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I totally understand the cheap cable issue. I just never experienced this before and wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something stupid
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An employee's gilfriend had a Triumph TR7.
The battery was low so he tried to trickle charge it. He reversed the polarity. The car caught on fire. Total write off. She left him. |
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Cheap Wal-Mart cables, total junk. If they're good cables, buy new battery for dead car, cell shorted out. Edit: If you're jumping it every day maybe you should get a new battery, ya think? View Quote Measures 8 volts while car is off |
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I'd say 12.5 volts is way too low for proper charging. There might be something wrong with the charging system in the Mercedes.
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Quoted: Battery is brand new, but I haven't driven it in a few months. I jumped it yesterday and let it run for 30 minutes. I measured 12.5 volts across the battery while running and assume that meant the alternator was charging it Measures 8 volts while car is off View Quote |
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Electrical issue with the MB.
Try jumping with its battery disconnected, and have the Civic running. |
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Quoted: Battery is brand new, but I haven't driven it in a few months. I jumped it yesterday and let it run for 30 minutes. I measured 12.5 volts across the battery while running and assume that meant the alternator was charging it Measures 8 volts while car is off |
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You said you checked the polarity, but you didn't say HOW you connected them.
Red to red, or red to black? |
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Internal short in dead battery, drawing too much current from good battery.
Or Cheap ass cables of insufficient size. |
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Too light of cable, damaged cable, or poor connection between the clamps and cable.
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Quoted: Yeah. I am stuck on the thought it drained the alternator not charging it and just sitting there for a few months. View Quote |
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Quoted: Battery is brand new, but I haven't driven it in a few months. I jumped it yesterday and let it run for 30 minutes. I measured 12.5 volts across the battery while running and assume that meant the alternator was charging it Measures 8 volts while car is off View Quote |
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You said you checked the polarity, but you didn't say HOW you connected them. Red to red, or red to black? View Quote Fight the polacrity and just hook up the cables anyway you want. |
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If the battery has 8 volts with the car off, it is done for.
With the car running, and only outputting 12.5 volts, you might need an alternator too. It should be reading 14.4 to 14.6 volts when the vehicle is running. Methinks you've got multiple issues. |
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