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Posted: 1/5/2020 9:21:12 AM EDT
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All those years of eating shoe polish sandwiches and drinking brake fluid have an effect... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2020-01-04_20-23-27_jpg-1221676.JPG |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 9:22:57 AM EDT
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They have the industry in place to make cheap small arms, there is a big demand for cheap small arms. Why retool a factory when you already have a market for what you are producing?
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Posted: 1/5/2020 9:23:25 AM EDT
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They would rather be feared than respected? There is value in that, you know. And vodka. Then there's vodka.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 9:24:02 AM EDT
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Cuz they are Russians?
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Posted: 1/5/2020 2:33:02 PM EDT
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Almost any Russian I have met/ worked with are huge ego-maniacs. They think they can do no wrong and are well liked.
When people think they can do anything but wrong... they do just that. Fucking annoying |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 2:38:00 PM EDT
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Their drinking habits would make the Sioux say, “Damn, Ivan, why don’t you sip your vodka instead?”
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Posted: 1/5/2020 2:40:07 PM EDT
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They're a country full of highly intelligent people Like much of the entire world, Russia is not a highly intelligent country. It is slightly below average due to the massive purges mid-20th century, WW2, and brain-drain communism. Smart people leave Russia for the USA or Europe. Smart people do not immigrate to Russia. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 2:41:15 PM EDT
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The problem with Russia is basically anyone with power has a mafia organized crime type view towards the world. Until you remove these gangster oligarchs from power, it will never change.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 2:45:28 PM EDT
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How do you quantify "Normal"?
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Posted: 1/5/2020 2:49:28 PM EDT
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You do know that Soros completely tanked their banking system right as the Federation was just getting started and called himself the “real communist” because of it?
Russia has never really evolved beyond feudalism despite Catherine the Great’s endeavors and now they’ve just got an organized crime syndicate posing as a government running things. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 2:56:38 PM EDT
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No after you comrade
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:01:22 PM EDT
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Drunken Pig-People.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:06:36 PM EDT
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Russia is normal. We're the exception. Russia is a winner-take-all society, like most societies in human history. Russians understand that there is always someone wanting to take everything you have, and that there really are no rules to govern that conflict. That's how Russian business is. That's how Russian society is. So Russians assume that's how international affairs work. And they're mostly right.
In the west, we've created a unique society where the rule of law is strong enough to moderate the winner-take-all mentality. This allows for more complex economies and more egalitarian societies, but it also creates blind spots when dealing with the 90% of the world that still lives in winner-take-all societies. Oh, and at the very top? We're still a winner-take-all society. That's why the billionaires spend so much on politics. They're all trying to fend each other off. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:08:47 PM EDT
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Russians are a nation of drunken, sodomizing thieves.
Once a century they do seem to vomit up a genius though. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:16:02 PM EDT
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People are under the false assumption that what Russia has done (and is doing) is somehow unusual. What is unusual (unique, actually, in all of human history) is what the Western world has done, largely through the efforts and influence of one country (the US) that controlled the rebuilding of world order in the West after WW2 killed off most of the European elite and allowed the US to essentially control the structure the new elite would operate within. Now Europe is slowly growing out of the post-war order and showing the old problems they have always had, but the US influence as the Western guaranteer of peace and the GNT (Great Nuclear Truce) ensures that the US's stabilizing influence will remain for quite some time. At the same time, our cultural influence and example of a functional free republic (even now better than most of the world, despite our current issues with Leftists and ongoing coup) to countries such as those in Eastern Europe and ever further abroad (like Georgia before Russia crushed their attempt at joining the free world).
People also forget that Russia is and has always been ruled by Dictators in the Asian fashion, and is not a Western (or European) country in terms of culture or history. The Czars, Stalin (new Czar, essentially), the later USSR leaders who just tried to keep Stalin's government going while removing the obvious inefficiencies they thought they could remove without destroying the whole mess, and now the ex-KGB kleptocracy that took over after the fall of the USSR (with Putin ruling as a new Czar with better PR). If you compare Russia to China instead of Europe their actions make far more sense. TLDR: The Russians are normal. We are the weird ones. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:16:23 PM EDT
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What exactly is it about the Russian psyche and style of leadership that leads to them consistently and repeatedly refusing to "play nice" on the world stage? When the USSR collapsed, Russia had their chance to fully shed themselves of communism by joining in the world market. They were handed that leaf and refused to take it, instead choosing to continue to bolster their economy by large-scale arms trades and shady alliances with the gangsters of the world. They're a country full of highly intelligent people who would dominate the world stage - and avoid a lot of other trouble - if they would stop acting like your uncle who shows up drunk to every family gathering. Buncha degenerate beta males, running full speed into cultural and demographic suicide. I actually find Russian attitudes refreshing |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:18:19 PM EDT
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 How Vodka ruined Russia |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:19:21 PM EDT
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Because it's basically Slavic Mexico. Russia on the other hand makes.. ? |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:21:23 PM EDT
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They just can't help it.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:23:12 PM EDT
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What exactly is it about the Russian psyche and style of leadership that leads to them consistently and repeatedly refusing to "play nice" on the world stage? When the USSR collapsed, Russia had their chance to fully shed themselves of communism by joining in the world market. The Russian people at that point were no more suited for a democratic system than savages in Afghanistan or Iraq were. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:27:22 PM EDT
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mix of viking blood and mongol blood
they have that aggressive gene from the vikings and that submissive gene from being conquered by the mongols creates a passive aggressive culture passive aggressive people are the worst |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:36:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:39:54 PM EDT
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mix of viking blood and mongol blood they have that aggressive gene from the vikings and that submissive gene from being conquered by the mongols creates a passive aggressive culture passive aggressive people are the worst They have some blood from Swedish river pirates. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:40:38 PM EDT
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Their national psyche was scarred by the Mongol invasions.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:42:12 PM EDT
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...Let it be clearly understood that the Russian is a delightful person till he tucks his shirt in. As an Oriental he is charming. It is only when he insists upon being treated as the most easterly of Western peoples, instead of the most westerly of Easterns, that he becomes a racial anomaly extremely difficult to handle. The host never knows which side of his nature is going to turn up next....
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:42:51 PM EDT
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People are under the false assumption that what Russia has done (and is doing) is somehow unusual. What is unusual (iunique, actual, in all of human history) is what the Western world has done, largely through the efforts and influence of one country (the US) that controlled the rebuilding of world order in the West after WW2 killed off most of the European elite and allowed the US to essentially control the structure the new elite would operate within. Now Europe is slowly growing out of the post-war order and showing the old problems they have always had, but the US influence as the Western guaranteer of peace and the GNT (Great Nuclear Truce) ensures that the US's stabilizing influence will remain for quite some time. At the same time, our cultural influence and example of a functional free republic (even now better than most of the world, despite our current issues with Leftists and ongoing coup) to countries such as those in Eastern Europe and ever further abroad (like Georgia before Russia crushed their attempt at joining the free world). People also forget that Russia is and has always been ruled by Dictators in the Asian fashion, and is not a Western (or European) country in terms of culture or history. The Czars, Stalin (new Czar, essentially), the later USSR leaders who just tried to keep Stalin's government going while removing the obvious inefficiencies they thought they could remove without destroying the whole mess, and now the ex-KGB kleptocracy that took over after the fall of the USSR (with Putin ruling as a new Czar with better PR). If you compare Russia to China instead of Europe their actions make far more sense. TLDR: The Russians are normal. We are the weird ones. 
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:51:45 PM EDT
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Putin's Kleptocracy - Who Owns Russia
By Karen Dawisha |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:55:47 PM EDT
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The Bolshevik Revolution either killed or displaced the best Russian stocks of people.
The White Russians went down fighting or fled Russia. The Reds took over the country and its never recovered. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_movement Following the military defeat of the Whites, remnants and continuations of the movement remained in several organizations, some of which only had narrow support, enduring within the wider White émigré overseas community until after the fall of Communism in the Eastern European Revolutions of 1989 and the subsequent Dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1990–1991. This community-in-exile of anti-communists often divided into liberal and the more conservative segments, with some still hoping for the restoration of the Romanov dynasty. Several claimants to the empty throne emerged, like Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia (1924–2014) living in Italy and Prince Andrew Romanov (b. 1923) in the United States. Some exiles still hope to form a true constitutional democratic republic in Russia 
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:05:54 PM EDT
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All those years of eating shoe polish sandwiches and drinking brake fluid have an effect... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2020-01-04_20-23-27_jpg-1221676.JPG |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:08:08 PM EDT
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Gopniks, hardbass and vodka
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:09:15 PM EDT
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Statistically they come out a point or two below the United States in IQ. And we have some low-q groups.
Poster from California who admires the Russians and complains about beta males - get off fb and move to the south or Texas or Idaho and report back in six months, you’re welcome. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:11:53 PM EDT
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Best analogy on why Russia is the way it is I've ever heard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because it's basically Slavic Mexico. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:13:48 PM EDT
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Gopniks, hardbass and vodka |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:17:09 PM EDT
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I was telling some friends about this and tried to look it up but couldn't get any hits. I read about it in a book somewhere, don't remember where though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All those years of eating shoe polish sandwiches and drinking brake fluid have an effect... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2020-01-04_20-23-27_jpg-1221676.JPG |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:19:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, the "cold warriors" here in the US continued fighting the war after the fall, and that meant Russia never had a chance on the world market. We threw insane amounts of business and investments at China instead (look where that got us) while freezing out eastern europe. We had a chance to create an ally, but the military-industrial complex still needed the enemy. Russia needed to survive, and they did what they had to. Just look at how hard it is to get people to seriously think of China as an enemy, while we treat a country with an economy slightly smaller than that of Texas as the boogeyman. Heavymetal762 is right on the money here. We fucked up BIGTIME in supporting the Chinese over the Russians. We should have welcomed them with open arms. They share many more values with us than the Chinese, whose culture is so remarkably different than our own to be nearly alien. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:19:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:21:02 PM EDT
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What exactly is it about the Russian psyche and style of leadership that leads to them consistently and repeatedly refusing to "play nice" on the world stage? When the USSR collapsed, Russia had their chance to fully shed themselves of communism by joining in the world market. They were handed that leaf and refused to take it, instead choosing to continue to bolster their economy by large-scale arms trades and shady alliances with the gangsters of the world. They're a country full of highly intelligent people who would dominate the world stage - and avoid a lot of other trouble - if they would stop acting like your uncle who shows up drunk to every family gathering. They may be INTELLIGENT, but they're still a bunch of fucking dumbasses. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:21:21 PM EDT
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Because Boris Yeltsin needed protection for him and his corrupt friends. Putin was looked upon as a person they could count on. Since Putin is in charge nothings going to change.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:38:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:42:52 PM EDT
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This, plus Vodka and Raped by Asians. 
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:43:23 PM EDT
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Imperial and Soviet Russia always suffered from "short man syndrome", it's ingrained in them and there is no reason to think that that has changed at this date with the Russian Federation. One only has to look at how the Tsar thought it would be a fine idea to sail their Baltic Fleet around the world (Voyage of the Damned) to get at the Japanese and were slaughtered in The Battle of Tsushima.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mdi_Fh9_AgThe admiral in charge of that fleet had a bad habit. When he got mad he threw his binoculars overboard. The staff on the flagship knew this and stocked a reserve of 50 binoculars. They were out of binoculars before they got to Dogger Bank. And then something really nucking futz happened.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:43:30 PM EDT
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It was too late. The Russian people had lived too long (i.e. too many generations) under dictatorial and corrupt rule. When the USSR collapsed, there was basically nobody alive with a memory of living under any other system, so it had become completely ingrained. The Russian people at that point were no more suited for a democratic system than savages in Afghanistan or Iraq were. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What exactly is it about the Russian psyche and style of leadership that leads to them consistently and repeatedly refusing to "play nice" on the world stage? When the USSR collapsed, Russia had their chance to fully shed themselves of communism by joining in the world market. The Russian people at that point were no more suited for a democratic system than savages in Afghanistan or Iraq were. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:45:32 PM EDT
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Their national psyche was scarred by the Mongol invasions.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:55:20 PM EDT
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You young ARFCOMMERS need to read - then RE-READ - this post. Heavymetal762 is right on the money here. We fucked up BIGTIME in supporting the Chinese over the Russians. We should have welcomed them with open arms. They share many more values with us than the Chinese, whose culture is so remarkably different than our own to be nearly alien. By which I don’t mean you both don’t have a point. But for all our cold warrior paranoia, they had their own cold warriors, and they were, if anything, more paranoid. The one former Soviet officer I knew made the tinfoil hat Alex Jones types look trusting and welcoming of the US government. Their indoctrination was really, really heavy handed and effective. And I lived through the 90s. For all the openings we made between the countries, people on both sides were wary. And from ‘93 to 2000, Bill Clinton ran things, hardly the revanchist cold warriors. But the Russians were still paranoid we were trying to take over. We worried their Imperial intentions weren’t gone. Then when former Soviet Bloc countries started to join the EU and NATO, they freaked out. They still wanted a sphere of influence, didn’t like what we were doing...except the countries joining up simply didn’t want to be subject to Russia again. I remember GW had pretty good relations with Putin...but not he with us. And this neglects the influence of others. I was in Germany on a student exchange trip when the Kursk disaster went down. I was watching the news with my host mother when a Russian Admiral came out to announce their version of events. Before his mouth opened up she spit out “he’s lying!”. And she was right. Mistrust runs deep. In another timeline, where people on both sides worked to integrate Russia into the world economy, absolutely. But I’m not sure the only problem was our cold warriors. Or that Russia is, even now, willing to let Eastern Europe live free and on their own. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:57:00 PM EDT
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The Russians do not have Viking blood. They have some blood from Swedish river pirates. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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mix of viking blood and mongol blood they have that aggressive gene from the vikings and that submissive gene from being conquered by the mongols creates a passive aggressive culture passive aggressive people are the worst They have some blood from Swedish river pirates. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 4:58:41 PM EDT
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You're damn right we did, and we did that because they thought they were going to still have a sphere of influence, that's not allowed. As you can see they're right back to being stupid and still exporting leftist BS, they never stopped, and they're going to keep paying until they get it. Look at how long it took the countries around them to abandon socialism, most of them still have strong socialist parties. There's also the danger of separatist movements forming when you've fucked up the populations around you. Russians need to keep eating shit until they get it and do away with their oligarchs. It is never going to happen, just like the mainland Chinese are never going to change, just like India is never going to change, like the Mideast is never going to change. Or at least they are never going to change in your lifetime or probably near five hundred years from now All you can ever do is plan around it Russia was sadly probably always be a land of Lords and Serfs, in the end, even communism never changed Russia or mainland China |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 5:00:34 PM EDT
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900 years of paranoia, starvation, poverty and hopelessness. 
TDR one said they lie, constantly lie, when dealing with the Russians during the peace conference after the Russo Japanese war. |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 5:02:02 PM EDT
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Gopniks, hardbass and vodka  Russia in a nutshell |
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Posted: 1/5/2020 5:05:11 PM EDT
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When pilots flew MIG 25's they would report icing conditions. After landing they would remove the alcohol from the deicer and drink it. That is why the MIG 25 is called the flying restaurant.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 5:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, the "cold warriors" here in the US continued fighting the war after the fall, and that meant Russia never had a chance on the world market. We threw insane amounts of business and investments at China instead (look where that got us) while freezing out eastern europe. We had a chance to create an ally, but the military-industrial complex still needed the enemy. Russia needed to survive, and they did what they had to. Just look at how hard it is to get people to seriously think of China as an enemy, while we treat a country with an economy slightly smaller than that of Texas as the boogeyman. |
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