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Posted: 11/4/2012 10:45:29 PM EDT
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We always here the saying it's shot placement that counts right? Well a 007 dont miss so he could prolly get away with a .22lr. This. Plus, he always has a good script writer. |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:02:50 PM EDT
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We always here the saying it's shot placement that counts right? Well a 007 dont miss so he could prolly get away with a .22lr. This. Plus, he always has a good script writer. And a bottomless Magazine. |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:05:44 PM EDT
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I read all but one of the books recently.
In the books, he was 6' and roungly 160-170 pounds and he primarily wanted a weapon that would not print through his suits. He originally carried a Beretta .25 in a shoulder holster. If I recall correctly, the grip was just the frame taped over to make it even more slender. He kept a .45 revolver (maybe long-barreled) in a secret compartment or glove box (I do not remember which) in his Bentley until that was totalled in a car chase. About the 3rd/4th book into the series a new armorer made him upgrade to the PPK because in the previous book he had almost been killed due to a problem with his Beretta. I cannot recall the exact reason, whether it was a misfire or he could not unholster his weapon at the time. M confiscated his Beretta, knowing that he would ignore them and continue to carry the Beretta. Hope that helps. |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:12:39 PM EDT
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Delivering a coup de grace after the firing squad doesn't count.
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ppk is not that wimpy of a carry weapon. He carried a .32acp. How is that not weak? The 7.65x17mm cartridge has been used to kill more people than anyone could ever count. Don't underestimate it. |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:20:27 PM EDT
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Hitler offed himself with one, that may have improved its popularity.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:27:39 PM EDT
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Efette British upper crust snobbery and tradition. Grunts and the bottom feeders carry and use heavy, ugly, and brutish weapons. Gentlemen need something that speaks of sophistication, and utility be damned. John Wayne=.45 Colt Dirty Harry=S&W 29 Nancy boy Bond? Did you grunt and fondle yourself while posting that? Did you grab the kleenex box hoping I did? Yes, but only the 3-ply, since only a nancy boy Kansas City faggot uses 2-ply. Grrrrrr..., feel my flow of machismo emanate out from your screen via the interwebs. |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:27:59 PM EDT
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I wish they'd gone to the PPS or P99C in Skyfall instead of the lame-ass PPK. The original upgrade to the P99 was a nice acknowledgement that time has moved on a little since the Marshall Plan. I remember thinking the same when Bond went with a P5 in Octopussy. |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:28:13 PM EDT
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Efette British upper crust snobbery and tradition. Grunts and the bottom feeders carry and use heavy, ugly, and brutish weapons. Gentlemen need something that speaks of sophistication, and utility be damned. John Wayne=.45 Colt Dirty Harry=S&W 29 Nancy boy Bond? 
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:43:38 PM EDT
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... About the 3rd/4th book into the series a new armorer made him upgrade to the PPK because in the previous book he had almost been killed due to a problem with his Beretta. I cannot recall the exact reason, whether it was a misfire or he could not unholster his weapon at the time. M confiscated his Beretta, knowing that he would ignore them and continue to carry the Beretta. .... Its been decades since I've read them, but I believe the Beretta hung up in the holster during a very inopportune time. Can't remember which book it was, though. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:47:16 PM EDT
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well, when you consider that Israeli Mossad agents were killing people with Beretta .22's, the PPK was a hand cannon Suppressed 22s execution style IIRC. Bit different when the person is restrained or unaware. |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:49:48 PM EDT
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A lot of people have drowned but I don't carry a water gun
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The 7.65x17mm cartridge has been used to kill more people than anyone could ever count.
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He carried a .32acp. How is that not weak?ppk is not that wimpy of a carry weapon. Don't underestimate it. Soviets killed most of theirs with Tokarev cartridge variants or rifle fire. So who exactly did a lot of killing with .32 acp????? |
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:55:58 PM EDT
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ppk is not that wimpy of a carry weapon. He carried a .32acp. How is that not weak? Because he was more of an assassin than an infantry soldier or SWAT team door breacher? I meant the cartridge, not the man. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 12:03:26 AM EDT
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Soviets killed most of theirs with Tokarev cartridge variants or rifle fire. The Soviets killed 7,000+ in twenty eight days with the .25ACP. Quoted:
So who exactly did a lot of killing with .32 acp????? The Gestapo. Not to mention that it was the cartridge that started, and ended, the World Wars. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 12:07:53 AM EDT
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Soviets killed most of theirs with Tokarev cartridge variants or rifle fire. The Soviets killed 7,000+ in twenty eight days with the .25ACP. Quoted:
So who exactly did a lot of killing with .32 acp????? The Gestapo. Not to mention that it was the cartridge that started, and ended, the World Wars. 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 12:14:52 AM EDT
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Efette British upper crust snobbery and tradition. Grunts and the bottom feeders carry and use heavy, ugly, and brutish weapons. Gentlemen need something that speaks of sophistication, and utility be damned. John Wayne=.45 Colt Dirty Harry=S&W 29 Nancy boy Bond? http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/8324210507/7772069/7aa8426a3bc4b2748736ff8edae95b8d.jpg That is the semi-semiautomatic 455 James, and while proper for potting savages on the Veldt, has no place in a genteel environment. Have you so little couth as to suggest such a thing? |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 12:39:20 AM EDT
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Efette British upper crust snobbery and tradition. Grunts and the bottom feeders carry and use heavy, ugly, and brutish weapons. Gentlemen need something that speaks of sophistication, and utility be damned. John Wayne=.45 Colt Dirty Harry=S&W 29 Nancy boy Bond? http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/8324210507/7772069/7aa8426a3bc4b2748736ff8edae95b8d.jpg That is the semi-semiautomatic 455 James, and while proper for potting savages on the Veldt, has no place in a genteel environment. Have you so little couth as to suggest such a thing? This is, of course, why the .455 Webley was the standard Army officer's sidearm for quite some time, right? And why Dr. Watson had a .450 Adams revolver from his Army days in Afghanistan? ETA: Which he used alongside Holmes in London, of course, in addition to other arms. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 12:46:08 AM EDT
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The Bond character was not a policemen, a soldier or an hit man. He was a spy. A small caliber gun always made sense to me. I would love to know what today's spies carry.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 12:57:37 AM EDT
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Ian Flemming was not a gun guy. He chose a small easily concealed pistol. Later with some outside input he upgraded Bonds pistol. there was an NPR interview about this exact thing. Flemming basically said, he knew next to nothing about firearms, so he asked a friend what was a small pistol, and he got a ".25 Beretta, and would it kill," sure with a good shot". |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 1:06:55 AM EDT
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Well...... Back in the day, many UK civilian services were armed - the Post Office being one of them and many were armed with small concealed carry firearms like the PPK. Back on the late 50's I believe, the Post Office was no longer required to be armed and under the systematic disarming of the UK population that took place (bastards) all civilian services had their duty weapons withdrawn and put into storage. MI5 and MI6 never used to be armed until the late 60's, early 70's until it was decided that some staff needed to be armed when operating in the field. The Old Post Office weapons were brought out of storage and became issue weapons That's the history as I know it and as told to me by a weapons historian over here in the UK. 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 1:13:52 AM EDT
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Best answerBecause he is an pussified English character protrayed by anti-gun faggots in films made by Hollywood pieces of socialist shit. [div]Gay Perry in "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" was twice the man Bond is. Quoted:
Because he was more of an assassin than an infantry soldier or SWAT team door breacher? This |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:16:52 AM EDT
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Best answerBecause he is an pussified English character protrayed by anti-gun faggots in films made by Hollywood pieces of socialist shit. [div]Gay Perry in "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" was twice the man Bond is. Quoted:
Because he was more of an assassin than an infantry soldier or SWAT team door breacher? This +10 He needed something small he could carry around concealed and get the job done at close range somewhat quietly then GTFO. Notice that if a full scale firefight is breaking out, or is going to, he will grab or carry in a heavier weapon. He wanted the right tool for the situation. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:17:40 AM EDT
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he has his enormous penis to save him
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:19:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Because he's James Freaking Bond and can kill you with a thumbtack if he wants to. In his hands, the PPK might as well be a cannon. CJ this is the correct answer |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:20:41 AM EDT
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 It has a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window...HA! I just watched Dr. No last night and almost fell off my chair when the "armorer" said that. 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:22:14 AM EDT
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He needs a G26.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:24:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Because if you are wearing a tailored suit, you need something small so it doesn't ruin the lines. Glock 19 Bond better not fucking EVER carry a Glock. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:26:53 AM EDT
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His license to kill stipulates that he use a shitty weapon. That makes it somewhat sporting.
Imagine a license to kill with an AR10. 
Or bigger... 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:28:30 AM EDT
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Because if you are wearing a tailored suit, you need something small so it doesn't ruin the lines. Glock 19 Lol. 1. It's TV 2. His was chambered in .380 Win Mag. How else was he killing guys with one shot in the chest with a .380? |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:33:21 AM EDT
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Because if you are wearing a tailored suit, you need something small so it doesn't ruin the lines. Glock 19 Bond better not fucking EVER carry a Glock. 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:36:08 AM EDT
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The American CIA swear by them. 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:37:27 AM EDT
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Originally, he had a S&W 38. The Baretta/Walther was only for deep concealment.
IIRC the Smith was lost on the island of Dr. No. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:37:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because if you are wearing a tailored suit, you need something small so it doesn't ruin the lines. Glock 19 Bond better not fucking EVER carry a Glock. http://www.imfdb.org/images/3/31/Skyfall_Glock.jpg Clearly disarmed the threat and used his weapon to neutralize another approaching threat. Not enough evidence to say for certain if that's Bond's Glocknade. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:41:50 AM EDT
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Efette British upper crust snobbery and tradition. Grunts and the bottom feeders carry and use heavy, ugly, and brutish weapons. Gentlemen need something that speaks of sophistication, and utility be damned. John Wayne=.45 Colt Dirty Harry=S&W 29 Nancy boy Bond? http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/8324210507/7772069/7aa8426a3bc4b2748736ff8edae95b8d.jpg That is the semi-semiautomatic 455 James, and while proper for potting savages on the Veldt, has no place in a genteel environment. Have you so little couth as to suggest such a thing? I believe the officer corps were composed of some upper crusty, snobbish types. They carried manly guns though. Webleys and Adams sidearms have a certain appealing charm in their design while being quite effective. The Webley-Fosbery in .455 for example. A semi-automatic revolver. Whoa. Sherlock Holmes carried a Adams Mk II and a Webley Metrpolitan Police. 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:48:07 AM EDT
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The PPK is only there to get him back to this:
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:50:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: As a spy, if you have to draw your weapon your cover has been blown before you drew it. Hopefully, using it quickly and quietly will get you through or at least aid your escape. Being that a spy is usually quite physically close to the person who 'made' him, a .32acp will suffice for the necessary 'wet work.' I would expect that 007 would carry something more substantial if he had to go from undercover to tactical operations. The guy goes around telling everyone he meets that he is , "Bond, James Bond". His cover is blown way way before any gun play. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:54:54 AM EDT
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Soviets killed most of theirs with Tokarev cartridge variants or rifle fire. The Soviets killed 7,000+ in twenty eight days with the .25ACP. Quoted:
So who exactly did a lot of killing with .32 acp????? The Gestapo. Not to mention that it was the cartridge that started, and ended, the World Wars. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Gavrilloprincip.jpg/220px-Gavrilloprincip.jpg 
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Posted: 11/5/2012 5:57:05 AM EDT
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Best choice
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:01:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: The Bond character was not a policemen, a soldier or an hit man. He was a spy. A small caliber gun always made sense to me. I would love to know what today's spies carry. Most of them probably don't carry Think about it, most spies are gathering intelligence via cover. So, they are pretending to be journalists, businessmen, fucking restaurant managers...whatever. If a journalist gets caught carrying in the wrong place, that could be a real problem, and if he's magically released from a police station by a phone call from the US State department...well, his cover is pretty much blown at that point Speed |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:02:02 AM EDT
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Because he's British and that's the deadliest handgun he was allowed to carry.
And he was only that fortunate because it's a movie. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:06:27 AM EDT
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Because if he needs a bigger gun, he'll just shoot somebody with a bigger gun and take his.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:06:53 AM EDT
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Bond needs a small and concealable, reliable, yet powerful enough pistol to get the job done at point blank range. Remember, he is a spy not part of a SAS or SBS commando unit. Secrecy, stealth, and being smooth is top priority in the bulk of his missions. If he is going to go kick ass then a silenced MP5, M4, Walther P99 and all the extra tacti-coolio gear would be the name of the game.
I used to carry the PPK in .380 ACP for CCW. I switched to the Sig 232 in .380 ACP due to a more comfortable grip and no slide bite. I would consider the Walther PPK/S at some point in the future if I can find one at a good price. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:09:07 AM EDT
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The Bond character was not a policemen, a soldier or an hit man. He was a spy. A small caliber gun always made sense to me. I would love to know what today's spies carry. Most of them probably don't carry
Think about it, most spies are gathering intelligence via cover. So, they are pretending to be journalists, businessmen, fucking restaurant managers...whatever. If a journalist gets caught carrying in the wrong place, that could be a real problem, and if he's magically released from a police station by a phone call from the US State department...well, his cover is pretty much blown at that point
Speed See my earlier post. In the early days they carried Ruger .22's. Later on, they carried Browning Hipowers - up through the 90's. Now they carry G19s. Generally anyways. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:09:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: A lot of people have drowned but I don't carry a water gunQuoted: The 7.65x17mm cartridge has been used to kill more people than anyone could ever count.Quoted: He carried a .32acp. How is that not weak?ppk is not that wimpy of a carry weapon. Don't underestimate it. HAHAHhAHAHA .  |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:16:14 AM EDT
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nope.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:17:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: Because if you are wearing a tailored suit, you need something small so it doesn't ruin the lines. Yup. FPNI again. These days I am sure there are much better (at least more powerful) 9mm compacts, that are light and small, thanks to polymers. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:23:59 AM EDT
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It was a .380. He originally had a .25. No, it was a .32acp he had in the PPK. Look at the pic in the OP. "7.65 x whatever." .380 is 9x17mm, or as the Germans call it 9mm Kurz. Yep, 7.65mm Browning AKA .32 ACP. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:28:01 AM EDT
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His license to kill stipulates that he use a shitty weapon. That makes it somewhat sporting. Imagine a license to kill with an AR10.
Or bigger... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Trident_II_missile_image.jpg/220px-Trident_II_missile_image.jpg Didn't he use an ICBM or two in one of the older movies? Moore or late Connery, IIRC. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:30:00 AM EDT
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Ian Flemming was not a gun guy. He chose a small easily concealed pistol. Later with some outside input he upgraded Bonds pistol. This is the correct answer. |
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:47:39 AM EDT
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It's one of the most common calibers in Europe and at the time it was a standard police caliber in many countries. It made sense to use it.
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Posted: 11/5/2012 6:52:41 AM EDT
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SAS used it for concealed carry in Northern Ireland according to some books.
It isn't a terrible gun. |
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