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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:41:49 PM EDT
And why do they keep using it for high torque applications? And why is square or torx drive special order and Phillips is stocked?
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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:43:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:45:14 PM EDT
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They do not still exist again...they still exist.
Use pilot holes or a bolt/lag screw. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:45:17 PM EDT
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I bet OP doesn't like 1911s either.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:45:28 PM EDT
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Torx all the screws!!! Everything else should be banned now
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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:46:47 PM EDT
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Quoted:why is square or torx drive special order and Phillips is stocked? Who are you buying fasteners from where these are special order? |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 6:47:01 PM EDT
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If I ran for high public office I’d propose signature legislation to put a tax on all Phillips head screw production.
We’d use the money to subsidize torx bits. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:03:16 PM EDT
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Meh. I can get behind you if you want to bitch about slotted screws. Quality Phillips with the correct driver are fine.
Can’t say I’ve seen many Phillips in high-torque applications though |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. I can get behind you if you want to bitch about slotted screws. Quality Phillips with the correct driver are fine. Can't say I've seen many Phillips in high-torque applications though 
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:09:54 PM EDT
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I don't know why anyone would use a phillips screw for anything. Torx all day.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:12:03 PM EDT
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I like the square bit ones. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:12:43 PM EDT
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We need variety in our screws. Different holes need different screws to get the best effect. And who doesn't like a large variety of head? I would be quite upset if I could only get it one way.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:12:44 PM EDT
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A JIS screwdrivers solves many Philips problems
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:18:28 PM EDT
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My 1939 house has slotted screws all over the effing place
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:25:47 PM EDT
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They work for drywall screws and other applications where you have special bits to sink them and run out.
Other than that, pure junk. Torx ALL THE THINGS!!! |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:31:27 PM EDT
[#15]
Funny you should ask:
 How America RUINED the world's screws! (Robertson vs. Phillips) |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:35:35 PM EDT
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New production russian hypersonic missiles use an assortment including flathead.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:36:30 PM EDT
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I wonder the same about hex when I'm rounding out an old rusted in screw. I don't relish playing the Kroil/heat/hammer/drill game
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:37:37 PM EDT
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I was in the hardware store looking for some #6 1-1/4" torque screws the other day, nada smallest were #8's 1-1/2".
Putting bee hives together I needed the thinner so Phillips were my only option, my 18 gauge nail gun went fins up, that's why I'm using screws. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:38:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the square bit ones. Robertson GD. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:38:50 PM EDT
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I don’t mind phillips. I’ve snapped the tip off of many a torx driver, but almost never a phillips. In aerospace phillips was standardized a long time ago, so it will never go away. I have snapped screws with phillips head by over torquing, and the heads held on fine. I use quality drivers like pb swiss, vessel, wera.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:41:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who are you buying fasteners from where these are special order? Trailer decking screws from Menards. Phillips in stock, torx special order |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:41:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: And why do they keep using it for high torque applications? And why is square or torx drive special order and Phillips is stocked? Please provide your business model for replacing every Phillips head screw on Earth with a Torx bolt as well as the estimated cost of doing so. Thanks. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:42:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know why anyone would use a phillips screw for anything. Torx all day. If I recall Phillips is purposefully designed so you can’t over torque. It’s designed to slide out. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:43:00 PM EDT
[#24]
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:44:43 PM EDT
[#25]
Because they are better than tri wing or 4 wing torq screws.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:46:27 PM EDT
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I went on a bit spree awhile back making something for my shed. I wondered the same thing.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:46:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the square bit ones. This is the way. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:48:19 PM EDT
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It took me a long time to gradually switch almost everything over to Phillips, from flathead/whatever you call them, and now I'm switching to Torx. I think I'll always have a mix of the three, partially because of switch plate screws.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please provide your business model for replacing every Phillips head screw on Earth with a Torx bolt as well as the estimated cost of doing so. Thanks. Now do Whitworth bolts. Just stop making them. It isn't hard. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I recall Phillips is purposefully designed so you can't over torque. It's designed to slide out. Yup, from back before we had torque regulating power tools. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:50:43 PM EDT
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Because torx were too complex back in the 1930's when Phillips were developed. Besides every homeowner needs to have at least 5 pounds of drywall screws sitting in the basement for the next sheetrock job that will most likely never happen.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:52:12 PM EDT
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R2 or T25 all the things.
I go out of my way to buy T25 where I can. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 7:58:44 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Torx all the screws!!! Everything else should be banned now 
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:06:09 PM EDT
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That’s the wrong question. Why do we have flat head/slotted anything anymore? Maybe it was fine when we had Dames and broads with gams, but it is not needed at all.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:08:52 PM EDT
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Robertson or bust.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:21:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They do not still exist again...they still exist. Use pilot holes or a bolt/lag screw. It's not that they exist again. It's that we are asking the question again. Math is hard mkay
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:23:06 PM EDT
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Someone recently gave me a big box of Phillips deck screws. I thanked them nicely, took them home and put them directly in the garbage.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:23:52 PM EDT
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I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don’t know what head is best
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:24:51 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Torx all the screws!!! Everything else should be banned now You are goddamned right! |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don't know what head is best 
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:24:59 PM EDT
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Devils advocate…
Because they are much faster to install than the better alternatives and they don’t over torque. Think of it from a manufacturer perspective where time to install a fastener matters big time in overall production time. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:26:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Devils advocate Because they are much faster to install than the better alternatives and they don't over torque. Think of it from a manufacturer perspective where time to install a fastener matters big time in overall production time. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:29:01 PM EDT
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I use security torx for all of my home improvement projects. It makes me smile thinking of the next owner.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:30:00 PM EDT
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Here you go. It is quite interesting. It all boils down to a Canadian who didn’t understand elasticity of demand.
 Robertson, Phillips, and the History of the Screwdriver |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:30:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Still better than slotted screws.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:34:02 PM EDT
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Because of Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers , of course .
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still better than slotted screws.  |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:36:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because torx were too complex back in the 1930's when Phillips were developed. Besides every homeowner needs to have at least 5 pounds of drywall screws sitting in the basement for the next sheetrock job that will most likely never happen. 
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don’t know what head is best  |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:43:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the square bit ones.  |
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