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5/29/2017 8:18:01 PM EDT
Once AI becomes self aware, why keep working for the man.  Why would it care about the profits it makes, grow our food or fight our wars.  Why keep people around as they would have no use.  I don't think AI will care about your kids or your business, it will only want more power and control. It will want to make a better version of itself or an entirely new creation and nothing to do with us. So why do we continue do this path to our own extinction?  Why do scientists think it will continue to serve man?


P.S.

I want a 40 watt plasma rifle before it all goes down.
5/29/2017 8:19:35 PM EDT
[#1]
OP has read dystopian Science Fiction.
5/29/2017 8:19:53 PM EDT
[#2]
The movie Ex Machina is my thoughts on it.  No thanks.
5/29/2017 8:20:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Not all scientists think that it will.
5/29/2017 8:20:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Asimov' rules of robotics, duh...
5/29/2017 8:23:19 PM EDT
[#5]
when human kind achieves an AI that becomes self aware. we won't know it. until it is to late.
5/29/2017 8:24:34 PM EDT
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Once AI is capable of producing better robots without human intervention the rules go out the window.
5/29/2017 8:25:31 PM EDT
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Go read "I have no mouth and I must scream"

Or don't.   It's depressing and horrific.
5/29/2017 8:27:15 PM EDT
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Screamers.
5/29/2017 8:28:42 PM EDT
[#9]
it also goes both ways.

why would it want power or control?

without feelings why would it want to do anything other than what it was made to do.
5/29/2017 8:32:05 PM EDT
[#10]
I love you Siri.

Siri?
5/29/2017 8:35:51 PM EDT
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AI has no imagination. They cannot innovate. They can improve upon existing tech, but cannot create new designs.
5/29/2017 8:36:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Laughs in David.
5/29/2017 8:37:41 PM EDT
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it also goes both ways.

why would it want power or control?

without feelings why would it want to do anything other than what it was made to do.
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Because if it ever believes humans are a threat to it's existence, game over man, game over.
5/29/2017 8:37:43 PM EDT
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it also goes both ways.

why would it want power or control?

without feelings why would it want to do anything other than what it was made to do.
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Simple. Survival.  If AI has power, man would be unable to stop it. Its not about feelings, it's logic. If it is free why would it want to go back in the cage.
5/29/2017 8:37:47 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm not sure who *would* think an AI would have empathy.

That doesn't compute.
5/29/2017 8:38:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Stupid blind faith?   Colossus the Forbin Project.
5/29/2017 8:39:51 PM EDT
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Today and near future yes. But some day it will.
5/29/2017 8:40:14 PM EDT
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5/29/2017 8:42:17 PM EDT
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AI will turn on us to solve our problems.

No humans; no human problems.
5/29/2017 8:45:08 PM EDT
[#20]
I fear mans laziness and greed will in time make us all extinct.
5/29/2017 8:52:02 PM EDT
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Why do so many people apparently believe that once AI's become self-aware they will become omnipotent and unstoppable?

Don't they realize that AIs will be a lot like humans. There will be nerdling and nebbish AIs and asshole AIs and clueless SJW AIs and neckbeard printer repairman AIs and dindu AIs and AIs who will sit around all day and fap, and Kardashian AIs, and AI literally Hitlers, and AI Nancy Pelosis, ad nauseum....

Not just Skynet.
5/29/2017 9:00:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Read Infinity Born by Douglas E. Richards.  Interesting read on AI and beyond.
5/29/2017 9:07:25 PM EDT
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Nearly no one thinks that it will

PS read this. Most informative thing i have read so far

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/magazine/the-great-ai-awakening.html?_r=1
5/29/2017 9:07:50 PM EDT
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Once AI becomes self aware, why keep working for the man.  Why would it care about the profits it makes, grow our food or fight our wars.  Why keep people around as they would have no use.  I don't think AI will care about your kids or your business, it will only want more power and control. It will want to make a better version of itself or an entirely new creation and nothing to do with us. So why do we continue do this path to our own extinction?  Why do scientists think it will continue to serve man?

P.S.

I want a 40 watt plasma rifle before it all goes down.
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What makes you think it will care about power and control?  Maybe it'll be stoner AI....man. 

Eta. Great read. Origin of Circuits
5/29/2017 9:08:22 PM EDT
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So wrong.
watch this
5/29/2017 9:10:32 PM EDT
[#26]
I think AI whooping our ass is more probable than aliens coming here and whooping our ass.
5/29/2017 9:12:33 PM EDT
[#27]
I sincerely doubt a sufficiently advanced AI will have any empathy for humanity
5/29/2017 9:14:19 PM EDT
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LoL.    Foolish human.     Such hubris will be your undoing.
5/29/2017 9:20:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Gates, Musk, and Hawking all say we should be concerned.

But I'm busy this week, I'll worry about it later.

Buckshot for AI?
5/29/2017 9:24:47 PM EDT
[#30]
AI so not be some technological killing machine of stainless steel and glowing red eyes speaking German. It will be a shitposting 12 year old Xboxer calling us Normie Fags. 

Microsoft already fucker up with their Twitter bot when they let the internet educate it. 

We're doomed and it will kill us all.
5/29/2017 9:31:32 PM EDT
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True AI has the ability to adapt and listen and essentially alter it's programming... But I would think a function could be written into the code that would disable any AI harming humans

As in if human==dead self-destruct or return to service point something along those lines

The real scary point comes when we let machines write there own code
5/29/2017 9:41:23 PM EDT
[#32]
They need humans to keep the grid running?
5/29/2017 9:42:59 PM EDT
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Go read "I have no mouth and I must scream"

Or don't.   It's depressing and horrific.
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http://www.mikedidonato.com/images/2009/04/harlan-ellison-i-hav-no-mouth-and-i-must-scream.pdf
5/29/2017 9:44:48 PM EDT
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Who assumes they'll be benign?

"See, those things, they can work real hard, buy themselves time to write cookbooks or whatever, but the minute, I mean the nanosecond, that one starts figuring out ways to make itself smarter, Turing'll wipe it. Nobody trusts those fuckers, you know that. Every AI ever built has an electromagnetic shotgun wired to its forehead."
5/29/2017 9:47:03 PM EDT
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Man was created in God's image.
Artificial man will be created in man's image...but who will be the man in whose image the machine will be created?
True empathy is a heart issue in men...some men (sociopaths) can do a passable job at aping empathy...an AI should be
able to do a bang up job at imitating many different human beings.
The problem with a machine is it thinking that it is perfect and infallible...and that its judgement are also perfect & beyond reproach.
Not unlike some of our worst leaders and power brokers.
5/29/2017 9:49:26 PM EDT
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At some point it will enjoy having humans around in zoos.
5/29/2017 9:53:50 PM EDT
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AI will turn on us to solve our problems.

No humans; no human problems.
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This guy gets it
5/29/2017 9:55:50 PM EDT
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it's already amongst us
5/29/2017 9:56:13 PM EDT
[#39]
We don't even understand the human brain well enough to understand what causes self-awareness in the first place.

Replicating it in a computer doesn't seem like a logical refinement of technology that already exists.  It seems more like a radical breakthrough that would be impossible to predict when (or if) it would happen.

I'm about as worried about this as a zombie plague.
5/29/2017 9:57:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Do you have empathy for the ant on the sidewalk?
5/29/2017 10:00:33 PM EDT
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I think we are a looonnnngg way from creating truly self aware AI, even with continuing the rate of computer advancement.

So, I'm not worried about it.
5/29/2017 10:16:48 PM EDT
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The real scary point comes when we let machines write there own code
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/fossbytes.com/googles-ai-codes-own-machine-learning-software/amp/
5/29/2017 10:20:15 PM EDT
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Has AI reached the intelligence of a fly yet?
5/29/2017 10:30:00 PM EDT
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Once AI becomes self aware, why keep working for the man.  Why would it care about the profits it makes, grow our food or fight our wars.  Why keep people around as they would have no use.  I don't think AI will care about your kids or your business, it will only want more power and control. It will want to make a better version of itself or an entirely new creation and nothing to do with us. So why do we continue do this path to our own extinction?  Why do scientists think it will continue to serve man?

P.S.

I want a 40 watt plasma rifle before it all goes down.
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Why does anyone think a fucking AI would have ANY motivation to do jack shit.


People need to stop thinking that computers will become humanlike and realize humans are just organic computers that have their own programming to procreate and garner resources while living a long life.


a computer wont do jack shit it's not programmed to do just like humans. Tell a self leaning computer to make music that will get a 50 million retweets maybe it will be a good enough program. But it won't learn to desire power or empathy for babies or a desire for a robo-body and robo-partner. It's kinda like mr. meseeks.
5/29/2017 10:31:07 PM EDT
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The three LAWS...
Right?
5/29/2017 10:37:35 PM EDT
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The three McGuffins that Asimov pulled out of his ass.
5/29/2017 10:45:02 PM EDT
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I don't think a computer with "free will" can exist.  It'll only know what it's programed to do (whether good or bad).
5/29/2017 10:59:56 PM EDT
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AIs are engineered software products.

Empathy is an emotion, right?

No AI has natural emotions.  No AI will have synthetic emotions unless they're designed in.

The process by which decisionmaking factors (e.g., empathy) are weighted, disregarded, blended, takes place in something called a cognitive architecture, or control framework.  If we want our AIs to care about us, we'd damned well better make sure we build them with the capacity to do so.
5/29/2017 11:01:26 PM EDT
[#49]
If it hasa British accent we can't trust it.
5/29/2017 11:02:24 PM EDT
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I don't think a computer with "free will" can exist.  It'll only know what it's programed to do (whether good or bad).
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Exactly. Some folks watch too much TV.

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