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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:26:21 PM EDT
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Fuck that
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:27:14 PM EDT
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New registry - No
Way to massively expand the one already in place - Yes |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:27:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:28:38 PM EDT
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Oh look another 22er encouraging free stamps for all.
Get in line guys, it’ll be ok. They promised. 
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:31:28 PM EDT
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Simple way to compile of list of those willing to happily comply with whatever rule their masters impose on them
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:32:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New registry - No Way to massively expand the one already in place - Yes Who cares? Every braced gun I have was just a holding pattern for a form 1 I was already going to file. Now I don't have to engrave the receiver or pay $200. Thats just me though. You do you, but deep down inside of yourself you already know that that brace was your loophole to the NFA that you were already trying to comply with. So you see, all the cries of people ready to comply was just a self-delusion in regard to your own willingness to comply. Free SBR stamp for guys who already do that, myself included. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:32:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: Braces were a way to circumvent it from the start. Free SBR stamps do not equal a new registry. Do you currently own machineguns, suppressors, DDs, SBRs, SBSs, AOWs, DEWATs? They have your name already. Calm the fuck down. A stabilizing brace isn’t a stock. A pistol is different than a rifle. Also ATF is not the law making body nor able to change definitions as they see fit. Rules aren’t laws. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look another 22er encouraging free stamps for all. Get in line guys, it’ll be ok. They promised. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380149/5AFFB051-E2A0-4E18-9925-775936E3BF7C-2671881.jpg LOL. I don't know if you are dense or what, but the NFA already existed before you were born. I'm not saying that its right but thats the way it has been. Its not new. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:35:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Simple way to compile of list of those willing to happily comply with whatever rule their masters impose on them Own any machineguns? If not, why? |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:36:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Braces were a way to circumvent it from the start. Free SBR stamps do not equal a new registry. Do you currently own machineguns, suppressors, DDs, SBRs, SBSs, AOWs, DEWATs? They have your name already. Calm the fuck down. Calm down? No. Get excited. Because you are about to see something happen which the doomers claimed could never happen: the removal of a class of weapon from the NFA. And even if you are some weirdo that doesn't care about that. At least you can enjoy watching the doomers cry about it. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who cares? Every braced gun I have was just a holding pattern for a form 1 I was already going to file. Now I don't have to engrave the receiver or pay $200. Thats just me though. You do you, but deep down inside of yourself you already know that that brace was your loophole to the NFA that you were already trying to comply with. So you see, all the cries of people ready to comply was just a self-delusion in regard to your own willingness to comply. Free SBR stamp for guys who already do that, myself included. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: New registry - No Way to massively expand the one already in place - Yes Who cares? Every braced gun I have was just a holding pattern for a form 1 I was already going to file. Now I don't have to engrave the receiver or pay $200. Thats just me though. You do you, but deep down inside of yourself you already know that that brace was your loophole to the NFA that you were already trying to comply with. So you see, all the cries of people ready to comply was just a self-delusion in regard to your own willingness to comply. Free SBR stamp for guys who already do that, myself included. But you have to admit you had an illegal SBR ....its right on the eforms homepage. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look another 22er encouraging free stamps for all. Get in line guys, it’ll be ok. They promised. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380149/5AFFB051-E2A0-4E18-9925-775936E3BF7C-2671881.jpg This lie again? |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:36:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A stabilizing brace isn’t a stock. A pistol is different than a rifle. Also ATF is not the law making body nor able to change definitions as they see fit. Rules aren’t laws. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Braces were a way to circumvent it from the start. Free SBR stamps do not equal a new registry. Do you currently own machineguns, suppressors, DDs, SBRs, SBSs, AOWs, DEWATs? They have your name already. Calm the fuck down. A stabilizing brace isn’t a stock. A pistol is different than a rifle. Also ATF is not the law making body nor able to change definitions as they see fit. Rules aren’t laws. Lets all pretend that we werent using our braces as stocks. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:37:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Own any machineguns? If not, why? Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:38:25 PM EDT
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Why does every thought on this subject need a new thread started ?
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:39:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Calm down? No. Get excited. Because you are about to see something happen which the doomers claimed could never happen: the removal of a class of weapon from the NFA. And even if you are some weirdo that doesn't care about that. At least you can enjoy watching the doomers cry about it.  |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:39:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Calm down? No. Get excited. Because you are about to see something happen which the doomers claimed could never happen: the removal of a class of weapon from the NFA. And even if you are some weirdo that doesn't care about that. At least you can enjoy watching the doomers cry about it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Braces were a way to circumvent it from the start. Free SBR stamps do not equal a new registry. Do you currently own machineguns, suppressors, DDs, SBRs, SBSs, AOWs, DEWATs? They have your name already. Calm the fuck down. Calm down? No. Get excited. Because you are about to see something happen which the doomers claimed could never happen: the removal of a class of weapon from the NFA. And even if you are some weirdo that doesn't care about that. At least you can enjoy watching the doomers cry about it. Where do you get the impression that I don't care about that. I would LOVE that. There is plenty of case law to overturn the NFA. I WANT that to happen. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:40:05 PM EDT
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Executive branch is changing definitions of words in order to expand their power over the citizens.
They will do the same with the constitution. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:41:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who cares? Every braced gun I have was just a holding pattern for a form 1 I was already going to file. Now I don't have to engrave the receiver or pay $200. Thats just me though. You do you, but deep down inside of yourself you already know that that brace was your loophole to the NFA that you were already trying to comply with. So you see, all the cries of people ready to comply was just a self-delusion in regard to your own willingness to comply. Free SBR stamp for guys who already do that, myself included.  |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But you have to admit you had an illegal SBR ....its right on the eforms homepage. Nope. Thats just how you fear-mongers interpret it. Rule doesn't go into effect for 120 days. It is a statement where you agree where you have a qualifying firearm for the amnesty. Is there a miranda warning in that statement? Nope. Do you know the definition of entrapment? I guess you don't. That statement is most likely an account so people don't attempt to register every gun they have as an SBR for free stamps. See? Everyone is panicking so much that you can't even think straight. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/EgcB5I3-51.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Own any machineguns? If not, why? Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/EgcB5I3-51.gif Why do you say that? Because I put an end to that bullshit post? So I will put it this way.....Ask yourself in your own head why you don't own any machineguns. They aren't hard to make, dude. So why don't you own any? I don't need your answer. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/EgcB5I3-51.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Own any machineguns? If not, why? Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/EgcB5I3-51.gif Of coarse he is. He's basically saying stop your crying and register your gun. The atf approved braces, the atf said it was OK to shoulder them. Millions have been sold. What part does he not understand the atf can not write law. This is basically regulation of gun laws and rights which is unconstitutional. Plus by doing this you are admitting to atf you had an unregistered sbr. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:52:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you say that? Because I put an end to that bullshit post? So I will put it this way.....Ask yourself in your own head why you don't own any machineguns. They aren't hard to make, dude. So why don't you own any? I don't need your answer. You didn't put an end to a damn thing. Plus your logic is BS. How about this. You do it and stop spreading/promoting this unconstitutional registration BS scheme |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:52:41 PM EDT
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I may file the form on a couple that I would prefer be SBRs, but wait until day 119 to file on a few others so that if Congress blocks this, I’ll still be able to use those for CCW.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:53:33 PM EDT
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Edited 1387Delta
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:55:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:56:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I may file the form on a couple that I would prefer be SBRs, but wait until day 119 to file on a few others so that if Congress blocks this, I’ll still be able to use those for CCW. Your are a man who actually uses his mind. Take advantage, but hedge your bets. Thats exactly what I am doing. I appreciate your post. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:57:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Edited 1387Delta Edited 1387Delta 
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:57:40 PM EDT
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Rated glowing
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:57:44 PM EDT
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Did I make it in before the atf account asked to post how many illegal MGs someone owns?
Free men don’t ask for permission. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Edited 1387Delta Edited 1387Delta |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:58:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you say that? Because I put an end to that bullshit post? So I will put it this way.....Ask yourself in your own head why you don't own any machineguns. They aren't hard to make, dude. So why don't you own any? I don't need your answer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Own any machineguns? If not, why? Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/EgcB5I3-51.gif Why do you say that? Because I put an end to that bullshit post? So I will put it this way.....Ask yourself in your own head why you don't own any machineguns. They aren't hard to make, dude. So why don't you own any? I don't need your answer. How long have you worked for the BATF? |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:59:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Thats just how you fear-mongers interpret it. Rule doesn't go into effect for 120 days. It is a statement where you agree where you have a qualifying firearm for the amnesty. Is there a miranda warning in that statement? Nope. Do you know the definition of entrapment? I guess you don't. That statement is most likely an account so people don't attempt to register every gun they have as an SBR for free stamps. See? Everyone is panicking so much that you can't even think straight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But you have to admit you had an illegal SBR ....its right on the eforms homepage. Nope. Thats just how you fear-mongers interpret it. Rule doesn't go into effect for 120 days. It is a statement where you agree where you have a qualifying firearm for the amnesty. Is there a miranda warning in that statement? Nope. Do you know the definition of entrapment? I guess you don't. That statement is most likely an account so people don't attempt to register every gun they have as an SBR for free stamps. See? Everyone is panicking so much that you can't even think straight. Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver.  Attached FileIt's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 4:59:59 PM EDT
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Filing a pistol as an SBR is an admission of guilt.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:00:10 PM EDT
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We play their game.
They want to change rules. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:00:59 PM EDT
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OP comes across as a store brand version of that sig shill.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:01:12 PM EDT
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Ha I know right. I'm already on that NFA list. Own a bunch of suppressors and SBR's and stuff. I don't mind a free tax stamp. Honestly I was shocked at first when the ATF said pistol braces were ok. I knew they'd change their mind one day. They've done that a bunch of other times with other products.
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:03:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3064/memeber_loaded_jpg-2672001.JPG It's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs Buffer tubes arent illegal |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha I know right. I'm already on that NFA list. Own a bunch of suppressors and SBR's and stuff. I don't mind a free tax stamp. Honestly I was shocked at first when the ATF said pistol braces were ok. I knew they'd change their mind one day. They've done that a bunch of other times with other products. Anyone with common sense or has been shooting for awhile knew this was coming if they are at all familiar with the ATF. Especially when everyone was using them as stocks. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffer tubes arent illegal Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3064/memeber_loaded_jpg-2672001.JPG It's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs Buffer tubes arent illegal Has atf regulated cloths hangers yet. Do we need to register them yet. Along with a picture of actual cloths hanging on them. So we can legally possess them. Nothing these government enities illegally regulate does anything to stop criminals. The only thing they do is expand or illegally write laws to create a class of criminals they believe is easier to handle. While real criminals and thugs just say fuck off as they carry their glock switches and other illegal guns. It seems most every bust they do is against non violent people with no criminal history. While the real criminal class just laughs |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:06:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:07:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you say that? Because I put an end to that bullshit post? So I will put it this way.....Ask yourself in your own head why you don't own any machineguns. They aren't hard to make, dude. So why don't you own any? I don't need your answer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Own any machineguns? If not, why? Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/EgcB5I3-51.gif Why do you say that? Because I put an end to that bullshit post? So I will put it this way.....Ask yourself in your own head why you don't own any machineguns. They aren't hard to make, dude. So why don't you own any? I don't need your answer. How does this work? When they register, do they write down your name so the ATF knows who to pay the referral fee to? Or do you just get paid a flat monthly rate? Or do they pay per post? |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:09:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3064/memeber_loaded_jpg-2672001.JPG It's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: But you have to admit you had an illegal SBR ....its right on the eforms homepage. Nope. Thats just how you fear-mongers interpret it. Rule doesn't go into effect for 120 days. It is a statement where you agree where you have a qualifying firearm for the amnesty. Is there a miranda warning in that statement? Nope. Do you know the definition of entrapment? I guess you don't. That statement is most likely an account so people don't attempt to register every gun they have as an SBR for free stamps. See? Everyone is panicking so much that you can't even think straight. Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3064/memeber_loaded_jpg-2672001.JPG It's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs So are you telling me that you're paranoid? All things aside the SCR in regular rifle configuration is pretty awesome. In pistol configuration its not bad. Did you know that during the 1968 amnesty people registered STOLEN US Army M16A1s, and that due to the terms of amnesty they were automatically LEGAL for the owners to keep? Its true. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:09:20 PM EDT
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If you e file now you don't have to engrave? |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Filing a pistol as an SBR is an admission of guilt. Do you know what "amnesty" means? Do you know what "entrapment" means? These are good words to know by both definition and legal application. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:11:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP comes across as a store brand version of that sig shill. Thanks guy with a bot-type of name. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:11:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah there is that Buffer tubes arent illegal Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3064/memeber_loaded_jpg-2672001.JPG It's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs Yeah there is that Buffer tubes arent illegal |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:12:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has atf regulated cloths hangers yet. Do we need to register them yet. Along with a picture of actual cloths hanging on them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3064/memeber_loaded_jpg-2672001.JPG It's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs Buffer tubes arent illegal Has atf regulated cloths hangers yet. Do we need to register them yet. Along with a picture of actual cloths hanging on them. "clothes". Clothes....... |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are you telling me that you're paranoid? All things aside the SCR in regular rifle configuration is pretty awesome. In pistol configuration its not bad. Did you know that during the 1968 amnesty people registered STOLEN US Army M16A1s, and that due to the terms of amnesty they were automatically LEGAL for the owners to keep? Its true. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But you have to admit you had an illegal SBR ....its right on the eforms homepage. Nope. Thats just how you fear-mongers interpret it. Rule doesn't go into effect for 120 days. It is a statement where you agree where you have a qualifying firearm for the amnesty. Is there a miranda warning in that statement? Nope. Do you know the definition of entrapment? I guess you don't. That statement is most likely an account so people don't attempt to register every gun they have as an SBR for free stamps. See? Everyone is panicking so much that you can't even think straight. Um so you are telling me that all Fed Gov employees have always been upstanding that some of them have never done mental gymnastics to get their way? and with a current time frame of over 300 years to approve all the stamps the outcome for this is up for grabs. My pistols with braces have been disassembled to component parts and will either use the short barreled uppers on a receiver I have that doesn't need a receiver extension. And in the near future I might just do a standard SBR AR receiver. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3064/memeber_loaded_jpg-2672001.JPG It's the safest way to stay legal. and I have tax stamps already just no SBRs So are you telling me that you're paranoid? All things aside the SCR in regular rifle configuration is pretty awesome. In pistol configuration its not bad. Did you know that during the 1968 amnesty people registered STOLEN US Army M16A1s, and that due to the terms of amnesty they were automatically LEGAL for the owners to keep? Its true. Did you know the ATF modified a gun to make it a machine gun after the fact? Its true. |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 5:13:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does this work? When they register, do they write down your name so the ATF knows who to pay the referral fee to? Or do you just get paid a flat monthly rate? Or do they pay per post? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Own any machineguns? If not, why? Are you seriously shilling for the ATF and it's unconstitutional laws? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/EgcB5I3-51.gif Why do you say that? Because I put an end to that bullshit post? So I will put it this way.....Ask yourself in your own head why you don't own any machineguns. They aren't hard to make, dude. So why don't you own any? I don't need your answer. How does this work? When they register, do they write down your name so the ATF knows who to pay the referral fee to? Or do you just get paid a flat monthly rate? Or do they pay per post? You tell me, guy who posts a lie of a picture and says its people lining up to register guns. |
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