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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:07:43 PM EST
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Indigenous white people's music.
Not surprised it's not popular...just good. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:07:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It sucks. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:07:52 PM EST
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Why dont the masses shoot black powder muskets ?
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:07:53 PM EST
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the masses the horde, the rabble, the mob, the bulk, those in the center and below of the bell curve... are not exactly connoisseurs or pursuers of anything. They consume whats immediately put in their face
eta- as far as it sucks or not.. it might mostly suck, most art sucks. Its not just the good stuff that is art, its all the horrible, half ass shit too. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:07:54 PM EST
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Think about it for a minute. It's not just classical. Any complicated music that really required one to pay attention isn't popular. Complicated progressive metal and rock isn't popular either. What is? Well...Pop...and what's pop? Catchy beats and rythyms and that's all that matters- there's nothing wrong with that stuff really, I mean who doesn't just like a catchy brainless melody sometimes? It is sad that so many people can't appreciate good classical music though. I don't listen to it a lot, but I do love Chopin's Nocturnes and things like that. Even better, is metal that has clear classical influences. Great stuff. From the guy with Eddie for an avatar. 
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:08:12 PM EST
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It requires an adult attention span. This. It isn't ghetto enough for the thugs and the thug wanna-be morons. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:08:18 PM EST
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I love Classical music.
But then I grew up playing classical music on the piano. I have no use for whatever that noise is that people keep referring to as "metal"/"rap"/"hip hop"/"etc."..... |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:08:41 PM EST
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To each their own.
And this has some interesting interaction with one of the greatest piano players ever, along with some very fine music:
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:09:22 PM EST
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It requires a nice stereo to truly appreciate, and a lot of people are baroque in this economy. You seem to have a Handel on things. Nothing to strauss over. I haven't been too Bizet today. You should make a Liszt of all these classical puns. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:10:23 PM EST
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From the guy with Eddie for an avatar. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Think about it for a minute. It's not just classical. Any complicated music that really required one to pay attention isn't popular. Complicated progressive metal and rock isn't popular either. What is? Well...Pop...and what's pop? Catchy beats and rythyms and that's all that matters- there's nothing wrong with that stuff really, I mean who doesn't just like a catchy brainless melody sometimes? It is sad that so many people can't appreciate good classical music though. I don't listen to it a lot, but I do love Chopin's Nocturnes and things like that. Even better, is metal that has clear classical influences. Great stuff. From the guy with Eddie for an avatar. Well, I am a die hard metal head (simple brainless metal to prog in 13/57th time signature  ) but I definitely appreciate just about anything but rap and robot porno soundtrack wub wub wub music.
Maiden has some great simple stuff, and some more complicated stuff as well. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:10:29 PM EST
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Vivaldi rocks!
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:10:40 PM EST
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It requires a nice stereo to truly appreciate, and a lot of people are baroque in this economy. Not only that, but when it comes to young people today, mozart sophisticated enough to enjoy it. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:11:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should make a Liszt of all these classical puns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It requires a nice stereo to truly appreciate, and a lot of people are baroque in this economy. You seem to have a Handel on things. Nothing to strauss over. I haven't been too Bizet today. You should make a Liszt of all these classical puns. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:11:54 PM EST
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It requires a nice stereo to truly appreciate, and a lot of people are baroque in this economy. You seem to have a Handel on things. Nothing to strauss over. I haven't been too Bizet today. You should make a Liszt of all these classical puns. Nah. GD be hayden. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:12:35 PM EST
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Same reason the masses like Budwieser, McDonald, and Democrats. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:12:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Think about it for a minute. It's not just classical. Any complicated music that really required one to pay attention isn't popular. Complicated progressive metal and rock isn't popular either. What is? Well...Pop...and what's pop? Catchy beats and rythyms and that's all that matters- there's nothing wrong with that stuff really, I mean who doesn't just like a catchy brainless melody sometimes? It is sad that so many people can't appreciate good classical music though. I don't listen to it a lot, but I do love Chopin's Nocturnes and things like that. Even better, is metal that has clear classical influences. Great stuff. Up the Irons! |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:13:07 PM EST
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William Tell was a horrible poker player but made the Lone Ranger famous.
I grew up with my dad listening to mostly that. He was a professional singer, but that was what he liked. I immediately liked RR when I heard it. It's all about what one likes. I'd rather listen to classical symphony music than blue grass. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:14:03 PM EST
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Depends on the mood, location, and song.
Personally I prefer rock music, but I'll occasionally listen to classical. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:14:16 PM EST
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Think about it for a minute. It's not just classical. Any complicated music that really required one to pay attention isn't popular. Complicated progressive metal and rock isn't popular either. What is? Well...Pop...and what's pop? Catchy beats and rythyms and that's all that matters- there's nothing wrong with that stuff really, I mean who doesn't just like a catchy brainless melody sometimes? It is sad that so many people can't appreciate good classical music though. I don't listen to it a lot, but I do love Chopin's Nocturnes and things like that. Even better, is metal that has clear classical influences. Great stuff. This. I can't remember the last time I heard King Crimson, ELP or Camel blasting out of the car next to me at a stop light. 
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:14:44 PM EST
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Music has consistently been behind the curve when it comes to advancements in the other parts of culture. Art, poetry, and other forms of high culture have made consistent advancements in the last 100 years and have finally caught up to where the other mediums are today.
What we hear when we listen to classical music is often the inability to convey emotion and ideas in a manner that painters as sculptures were able to do so during that time. This is why most classical music meanders and has tons of notes and parts that don't particularly evoke an emotion or response. And, if they do, it is staggeringly small compared to the works of most modern composers and musicians. Very few classical pieces used motifs, which is an incredibly powerful and essential song writing tool. It isn't because there was some lofty goal that exists outside the motif. It's because they had no fucking clue how to write a song. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:14:47 PM EST
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There's quite a lot of Classical Music I enjoy.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:15:34 PM EST
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I'll bet Michael J. Fox can...just saying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't twerk to Tchaikovsky. Oh, no you din't! TC |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:16:27 PM EST
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It requires a nice stereo to truly appreciate, and a lot of people are baroque in this economy. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=54658 nice banana |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:16:58 PM EST
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This. I can't remember the last time I heard King Crimson, ELP or Camel blasting out of the car next to me at a stop light. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Think about it for a minute. It's not just classical. Any complicated music that really required one to pay attention isn't popular. Complicated progressive metal and rock isn't popular either. What is? Well...Pop...and what's pop? Catchy beats and rythyms and that's all that matters- there's nothing wrong with that stuff really, I mean who doesn't just like a catchy brainless melody sometimes? It is sad that so many people can't appreciate good classical music though. I don't listen to it a lot, but I do love Chopin's Nocturnes and things like that. Even better, is metal that has clear classical influences. Great stuff. This. I can't remember the last time I heard King Crimson, ELP or Camel blasting out of the car next to me at a stop light. I derive a sick sense of pleasure from blasting 21st century schizoid man.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:17:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't been too Bizet today. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It requires a nice stereo to truly appreciate, and a lot of people are baroque in this economy. You seem to have a Handel on things. Nothing to strauss over. I haven't been too Bizet today. Have you actually gotten to the bottom of your To-Do Liszt? edit: Aww, beat. Thats what I get for leaving the reply window open while I answer the phone. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:17:46 PM EST
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One page of my Amazon Cloud:
ETA And yes I know they are duped. I fucked up last time I made a folder on my PC for my smartphone and uploaded existing content while trying to download. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:19:02 PM EST
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Same reason the masses like Budwieser, McDonald, and Democrats. This. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:21:07 PM EST
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I consider this guy to be the closest we'll get to another Mozart or Beethoven. If you're a classical/metal fan and have 12 minutes to spare it's definitely worth a listen. If you're unfamiliar with Jason Becker and his life it's also worth reading about. He was diagnosed with ALS and could no longer play guitar so he started composing these songs in his head and got musicians to physically record them for him. I wish I could find it but this song is basically his life story and different segments correspond with the different periods of his life from a young metal guitarist, to getting the disease, to the depression that followed and then to his "awakening" when he started composing. Very powerful stuff.
End of the Beginning
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:22:01 PM EST
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Op, know anyone who's seen a movie? Guess what, they probably do like classical music.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:22:13 PM EST
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That's actually a fascinating field of social psychology.
The better question is, "Why is popular music popular?" Yes, there's an unrivaled marketing element to it, BUT it also has to do with musical simplicity and familiarity. People crave what is familiar to them, we know that, but it's more than that. Listening to music forces your brain to solve a puzzle. What we consider "good" songs have more than one "puzzle" in them. Rhythm, timbre, mixing and dynamics, chord progression, lyrics and the poetic elements, harmonizing, etc, etc. And the complexity of each puzzle can vary from simple to difficult. The human brain likes to be challenged, but it hates to be defeated. It wants puzzles that use what it already knows, gives it one or two different things, has some novel elements to it, and can be solved within the attention span of the individual. If your musical vocabulary is well developed, you'll think most pop music is simplistic and trite. But to people who don't listen to music - including those who hear it, but don't listen to it - pop music is novel and interesting. This was a popular video a few years back, but it's worth a rewatch. Don't think so much about how similar the songs are (and they all are very similar) - but think how they're different. Imagine a person listening to each of them, and the audience cares only about the differences. That's why pop music is popular.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:23:24 PM EST
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Quote History"Frederic Fucking Chopin" |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:24:55 PM EST
[#32]
I love classical music. Old French horn player here.
If any of you like the theme song of the Lone Ranger, then you like classical music. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:25:44 PM EST
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With a large brush, it comes down to syncopated rhythm.
A large portion of classical music is not syncopated, or uses poly-rhythms. The more well known composers tended to incorporate syncopated sections in their music. Ragtime was when music for the masses incorporated syncopation as well as poly-rhythms(borrowed from African music traditions), on a structural level and not as a something that was for effect. It was a huge change in the way music was composed and received; it is hard to imagine music before and articulate how profound a change that syncopation and poly-rhythms were. I guess you could try to equate it to Before Internet and After Internet. Those growing up before can measure the change on society, those born after cant imagine life without the internet. Modern pop music is an amalgamation of several different musical traditions and a rather interesting subject to me. Recently, I've been looking at the roots and history of electronic music, another area in music that has gone through rapid changes; with roots stretching back close to 80 something years. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:25:46 PM EST
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I love Classical! It doesn't suck for those who have stated it does...
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:26:14 PM EST
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I'll bet Michael J. Fox can...just saying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't twerk to Tchaikovsky. He could twerk to anything. Wouldn't hand him an unopened beer, though. 
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:28:01 PM EST
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Op, know anyone who's seen a movie? Guess what, they probably do like classical music. Well we'll leave Straight Outta Compton out of the mix. Probably the best known modern classical music.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:28:06 PM EST
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I consider this guy to be the closest we'll get to another Mozart or Beethoven. If you're a classical/metal fan and have 12 minutes to spare it's definitely worth a listen. If you're unfamiliar with Jason Becker and his life it's also worth reading about. He was diagnosed with ALS and could no longer play guitar so he started composing these songs in his head and got musicians to physically record them for him. I wish I could find it but this song is basically his life story and different segments correspond with the different periods of his life from a young metal guitarist, to getting the disease, to the depression that followed and then to his "awakening" when he started composing. Very powerful stuff. End of the Beginning  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7MEDrzcPbMThis is cool. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:29:11 PM EST
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It wasn't written for the way we listen to music now. There are wide variations in volume and a lot of complexity. Classical doesn't work unless you sit and listen and most people are too inpatient to let it build and wait for the payoff. And you can't really listen in your car because you really have to turn up the volume to hear the lows and then, when the highs come in, it blows your doors off.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:31:45 PM EST
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I like some classical music, but generally find it boring.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:34:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I consider this guy to be the closest we'll get to another Mozart or Beethoven. If you're a classical/metal fan and have 12 minutes to spare it's definitely worth a listen. If you're unfamiliar with Jason Becker and his life it's also worth reading about. He was diagnosed with ALS and could no longer play guitar so he started composing these songs in his head and got musicians to physically record them for him. I wish I could find it but this song is basically his life story and different segments correspond with the different periods of his life from a young metal guitarist, to getting the disease, to the depression that followed and then to his "awakening" when he started composing. Very powerful stuff. End of the Beginning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7MEDrzcPbM |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:35:02 PM EST
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I think the new stuff satisfies our basic animal sexual instinct and desire. How many people get up and gyrate half naked to classical music? There is a reason it's called devil's music.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:36:45 PM EST
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Listening to classical music requires an attention span greater than that of a goldfish. Most folks no longer have that ability.
Just look at how many TL:DR type of posts are made here for an indication on this problem. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:37:18 PM EST
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If I had to choose one musician to listen to the rest of forever, it would probably be Chopin- his music speaks to me like no other.
I'm surprised no one has pointed it out yet- but they listen to classical music all the time. They just don't realize it. Observe, and if you are a music nut, be prepared to suddenly hear Pachebel everywhere you go:
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:38:41 PM EST
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Most people under 30 probably had very little if any exposure to it as children. My daughter listened to it while in the womb (headphones over tummy: she danced around alot). She is now 6 and goes with me to concerts (I have season tickets). I also like Al DiMeola, Robert Fripp, classic rock and jazz. I am a huge Rush fan. My daughter is showing a great interest in music and besides classical likes The Sundays, Icon for Hire and Echosmith. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:39:33 PM EST
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For 50 years I was "Too Cool".
Then I actually listened to it. The 2nd movements of LV Beethoven's 3rd, 7th, & 9th Symphonies are My 3 favorite pieces of music. Fave R&R is still YES & Blue Oyster Cult. The Ol' Crew Chief Oh, yeah...Tchaikovsky symphonies also kick ass!!! 
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:39:35 PM EST
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Just find out what Mensa members listen to. Its classical on a whole
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:40:06 PM EST
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I prefer Jazz, but I have always liked classical music.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:40:27 PM EST
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Yea not going to listen to this, his story is too depressing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I consider this guy to be the closest we'll get to another Mozart or Beethoven. If you're a classical/metal fan and have 12 minutes to spare it's definitely worth a listen. If you're unfamiliar with Jason Becker and his life it's also worth reading about. He was diagnosed with ALS and could no longer play guitar so he started composing these songs in his head and got musicians to physically record them for him. I wish I could find it but this song is basically his life story and different segments correspond with the different periods of his life from a young metal guitarist, to getting the disease, to the depression that followed and then to his "awakening" when he started composing. Very powerful stuff. End of the Beginning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7MEDrzcPbMBut the song is not, it's about a young musical virtuoso slowly becoming crippled, thinking life is over, then finally realizing it's actually not. You can hear it clear as day in the music. Also, it's astonishing to me that by the time he wrote this he was completely paralyzed. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:42:38 PM EST
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Same reason the masses like Budwieser, McDonald, and Democrats. Also, some people are never exposed to anything different. They assume that what they listen to is all there is. Anything outside of their comfort zone is bad. Peer pressure has something to do with it too. Others who don't "get" it will get defensive and pissed off and assume that the Classical fan is "putting on airs." So they'll give the Classical fan grief. Kids are particularly vulnerable to this. |
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Posted: 8/18/2015 3:45:13 PM EST
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I like all kinds of music with only a few exceptions. The genres I know of that I absolutely do not touch are anything rap/hip hop, motown, or any country music newer than 25 years.
As fas as the genres I'm big into, I really like metal/hardcore/metalcore music, some techno/dubstep, various rock/hard rock stuff, but I like some classical music from time to time. I really like violin and piano music. I find it kind of hilarious that I'm starting to like these genres as I get older because my Dad hated all the "rock music" I liked growing up and tried to force me into liking classical music. It just took an extra 20 years.
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