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Posted: 11/13/2018 2:33:06 PM EST
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I'm confused. Is the OP upset over the appearance of fire trucks (paint and chrome) or something else?
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Posted: 11/13/2018 3:37:43 PM EST
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other peoples' money unions at their best edit: union leaders, not the firemen |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 4:15:17 PM EST
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Does OP still hate clean fire trucks with chrome?
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Posted: 11/13/2018 7:59:13 PM EST
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Some of the roughest stuff I saw was on a west side Detroit station. Also some of the most respected and hard working guys were there. When guys are getting 5-6 calls a day, they don't have as much time to polish their chrome. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:01:45 PM EST
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5-6 calls a day is nothing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the shiny shit isn't what makes them expensive. Taking pride in your equipment is a big part of the fire service, stations with shitty, dirty equipment are typically staffed by dirty, shitty firemen. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:04:10 PM EST
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I don't see why you use a $1 million fire truck to block traffic and let it get destroyed by some drunk asshole. In Texas you could use old dump trucks, paint them red and yellow, hang some reject light bar on it and fill it with sand. So when some drunk asshole hits it, at most you're out a $100,000 pos that's not critical to the safety of your community. And when we have those freak ice storms, those bitches can be out spreading sand. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:06:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FD likes to choke the roads down to one lane only that way traffic has to slow to a crawl to admire their rigs when they go by! 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:13:25 PM EST
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Hey BOSS.......try to be just a little nicer. Not you're getting on the highway with that segway anyway!!!! |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:16:14 PM EST
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I can only hope to get there before FD to get everything off the road before it gets all fucked up. I've seen you guys close down 2 lanes for a crash that's on the berm already! Incredible! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey BOSS.......try to be just a little nicer. Not you're getting on the highway with that segway anyway!!!! You seem really bitter about FD, you jelly bro? 
ETA: Come ride out with me BOSS, you can see how professionals do it. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:20:52 PM EST
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You really should get out to the city more. You seem really bitter about FD, you jelly bro?
ETA: Come ride out with me BOSS, you can see how professionals do it. BOSS OUT PS- not bitter. I say this crap to our guys in person and they give it back to me. They even gave me the door key code so I can piss while they’re sleeping and not disturb them 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:25:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Y'all can fuck up a traffic pattern when no one asks you to but when someone is dying at 3am and we call for you, you come in all grumpy!!!! BOSS OUT PS- not bitter. I say this crap to our guys in person and they give it back to me. They even gave me the door key code so I can piss while they're sleeping and not disturb them You are lucky they let you piss there as grumpy as you are. Don't go all BOSS OUT on me, we are making progress in our FD/mall security relationship!  
PS. Are you short like our mall security guys? I swear their average height is like 5'4 at best. 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:27:02 PM EST
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Does OP still hate clean fire trucks with chrome? 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:33:11 PM EST
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You seem grumpy yourself. Again, EVERYTHING you have described is specific to your area ONLY. At least from my experience. You are lucky they let you piss there as grumpy as you are. Don't go all BOSS OUT on me, we are making progress in our FD/mall security relationship!
PS. Are you short like our mall security guys? I swear their average height is like 5'4 at best. Do you have a potbelly even though you get paid to work out and play basketball? Do you wear your shirt untucked? Tongue of your boots hanging out beyond your pants? I gotta know! My area only? You saying you don’t shut down unbecessary lanes? When you have a medical call do you send the squad or the full staff, you know, for “manpower” I mean stats |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:35:49 PM EST
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LOL, OP is not from the land of 703. Enjoy the footage of no piece of equipment that is older than 10 years, mostly Fairfax with some Arlington and Alexandra thrown in. Red lights, Federal Q, air horns,Signal Stats, Roto Rays and shiny diamond plate. Enjoy
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:35:52 PM EST
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Someone is butthurt they didn't have the foresight to become a fireman.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:40:23 PM EST
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Over 6 foot Do you have a potbelly even though you get paid to work out and play basketball? Do you wear your shirt untucked? Tongue of your boots hanging out beyond your pants? I gotta know! My area only? You saying you don't shut down unbecessary lanes? When you have a medical call do you send the squad or the full staff, you know, for "manpower" I mean stats Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You seem grumpy yourself. Again, EVERYTHING you have described is specific to your area ONLY. At least from my experience. You are lucky they let you piss there as grumpy as you are. Don't go all BOSS OUT on me, we are making progress in our FD/mall security relationship!
PS. Are you short like our mall security guys? I swear their average height is like 5'4 at best. Do you have a potbelly even though you get paid to work out and play basketball? Do you wear your shirt untucked? Tongue of your boots hanging out beyond your pants? I gotta know! My area only? You saying you don't shut down unbecessary lanes? When you have a medical call do you send the squad or the full staff, you know, for "manpower" I mean stats Two lanes on the highway. That is generally it unless the accident takes up multiple lanes. An EMS call get an engine and micu. That is 5 guys. We have 4 story apartments. We regulary carry down 300lbs section 8'ers. So yea we have manpower on every call and sometimes it just barely works out with a med bag, airway bag, and a monitor. Anything else I can answer for you? |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:44:44 PM EST
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I believe in quality and discipline. I am 6'3 and weigh about 235, I could stand to lose a couple pounds, I don't think I have a pot belly. My shirt and boots remain professional looking at all times. I despise the slackers that do things like you describe(I have one guy in recent history on my crew that did this, I took him into the office and ASKED him not to do it again, then told him if he pursued it I would write him up). I don't play basketball on duty as all ball sports are banned. I generally walk or row or both on duty. Oh and I climb the flight of stairs to our mezzanine about 20 times or so mixed in. Two lanes on the highway. That is generally it unless the accident takes up multiple lanes. An EMS call get an engine and micu. That is 5 guys. We have 4 story apartments. We regulary carry down 300lbs section 8'ers. So yea we have manpower on every call and sometimes it just barely works out with a med bag, airway bag, and a monitor. Anything else I can answer for you? What night is pizza night?! |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:46:05 PM EST
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Chrome bolts....
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:49:22 PM EST
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Is the coffee at the station bought by each unit for them only or shared among all units? I've seen it done both ways! What night is pizza night?! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe in quality and discipline. I am 6'3 and weigh about 235, I could stand to lose a couple pounds, I don't think I have a pot belly. My shirt and boots remain professional looking at all times. I despise the slackers that do things like you describe(I have one guy in recent history on my crew that did this, I took him into the office and ASKED him not to do it again, then told him if he pursued it I would write him up). I don't play basketball on duty as all ball sports are banned. I generally walk or row or both on duty. Oh and I climb the flight of stairs to our mezzanine about 20 times or so mixed in. Two lanes on the highway. That is generally it unless the accident takes up multiple lanes. An EMS call get an engine and micu. That is 5 guys. We have 4 story apartments. We regulary carry down 300lbs section 8'ers. So yea we have manpower on every call and sometimes it just barely works out with a med bag, airway bag, and a monitor. Anything else I can answer for you? What night is pizza night?! Pizza night is not scheduled. We have been known to order pizza when we have a really busy shift. Usually 7 calls before 5pm will get you pizza night or another restaurant take out. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:04:20 PM EST
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We have a station kitty, all three shifts put in $10/man/month. Out of that we buy salt, pepper, tea, coffee, spices, sugar and all the etc's we can afford. Coffee is Folgers that is what Sam's sells. I do not drink coffee. Yet I pay the same amount because that is the way shit go. Pizza night is not scheduled. We have been known to order pizza when we have a really busy shift. Usually 7 calls before 5pm will get you pizza night or another restaurant take out. What’s your side gig on days off? |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:07:19 PM EST
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How many coats of wax did your personal truck get at the station last year? What's your side gig on days off? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have a station kitty, all three shifts put in $10/man/month. Out of that we buy salt, pepper, tea, coffee, spices, sugar and all the etc's we can afford. Coffee is Folgers that is what Sam's sells. I do not drink coffee. Yet I pay the same amount because that is the way shit go. Pizza night is not scheduled. We have been known to order pizza when we have a really busy shift. Usually 7 calls before 5pm will get you pizza night or another restaurant take out. What's your side gig on days off? I shoot guns, clean them, and sometimes assemble them, oh and I surf arfcom. I don't have a part time gig these days. ETA: Meguiars on my back drive on my days off maybe every 3 months? |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:09:23 PM EST
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None. I have never performed maintenance on my truck at the station. I shoot guns, clean them, and sometimes assemble them, oh and I surf arfcom. I don't have a part time gig these days. ETA: Meguiars on my back drive on my days off maybe every 3 months? |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:12:09 PM EST
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Incredible! I don't believe it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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None. I have never performed maintenance on my truck at the station. I shoot guns, clean them, and sometimes assemble them, oh and I surf arfcom. I don't have a part time gig these days. ETA: Meguiars on my back drive on my days off maybe every 3 months? ETA: Hey wait a minute, you just called me a liar BOSS, I thought we were forging this friendship thing. Kinda shitty thing to do, why would I lie to you? |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 9:56:18 PM EST
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NFPA mandates half this crap they don't actually need. State and federal grants pay for it. Revolving money scheme. Most firefighters don't lift a finger to take care of their rigs. It's a social club paid for by the taxpayer.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:00:53 PM EST
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NFPA mandates half this crap they don't actually need. State and federal grants pay for it. Revolving money scheme. Most firefighters don't lift a finger to take care of their rigs. It's a social club paid for by the taxpayer. 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:01:04 PM EST
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NFPA mandates half this crap they don't actually need. State and federal grants pay for it. Revolving money scheme. Most firefighters don't lift a finger to take care of their rigs. It's a social club paid for by the taxpayer. ETA: you a road captain? |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:06:53 PM EST
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NFPA mandates half this crap they don't actually need. State and federal grants pay for it. Revolving money scheme. Most firefighters don't lift a finger to take care of their rigs. It's a social club paid for by the taxpayer. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:18:19 PM EST
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Ok, what is a decent average number of calls daily, just structure fires, not counting any other calls? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All the shiny shit isn't what makes them expensive. Taking pride in your equipment is a big part of the fire service, stations with shitty, dirty equipment are typically staffed by dirty, shitty firemen. "5-6 calls/runs" literally means being dispatched 5-6 times to anything. 5-6 burns is a whole different story. And even that doesn't tell the whole story. Were you RIT? Did you even get assigned or just help keep the scene neat and tidy? Were you in the search and rescue rotation only to have to do overhaul after as well? One good burn can tie up damn near your entire day. We had a guy working a 48 on a trade. His first 24 hours into it he had already done 26 runs. Hope that vacation was worth it.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:18:36 PM EST
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@cap6888 are we talking pierce autobody & detailing? Eastern shore of MD? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chrome? Ha! The gold leaf guy knows. That's REAL gold in that shit. The fire service is based on hundreds of years of traditions unimpeded by progress. We have chrome bling because that's what we've been doing for years! My department has been buying new apparatus over the past few years. It has reached the goal of Pierces most expensive striping/lettering package, $15,000! Pffffffft. Chrome? Ha! And at the station I work at we ride up and down the road on a 27 year old wagon. At least when the pump throttle knob doesn't work, you can reach behind the panel and pull the cable. Eastern shore of MD? |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:21:03 PM EST
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NFPA mandates half this crap they don't actually need. State and federal grants pay for it. Revolving money scheme. Most firefighters don't lift a finger to take care of their rigs. It's a social club paid for by the taxpayer. Sure the old timers aren't out there polishing the rig every day, but of all the professions out there I've never seen guys keep their shit more squared away than firefighters. I have almost no experience on the volunteer end but some on the career side. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:21:27 PM EST
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I don't see why you use a $1 million fire truck to block traffic and let it get destroyed by some drunk asshole. In Texas you could use old dump trucks, paint them red and yellow, hang some reject light bar on it and fill it with sand. So when some drunk asshole hits it, at most you're out a $100,000 pos that's not critical to the safety of your community. And when we have those freak ice storms, those bitches can be out spreading sand. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:25:45 PM EST
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NFPA mandates half this crap they don't actually need. State and federal grants pay for it. Revolving money scheme. Most firefighters don't lift a finger to take care of their rigs. It's a social club paid for by the taxpayer. 
I'd say fire apparatus are probably some of the most tenderly taken care of rigs on the road. At any decent career department there is probably an hour a day devoted to rig checks/washing/maintenance, and that's if everything is working right. It wasn't uncommon for me to be the last guy showered and changed into my day uniform when I was a driver because I caught a bunch of issues that needed to be addressed.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:26:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've read some impressively ignorant shit here but this takes the cake. Sure the old timers aren't out there polishing the rig every day, but of all the professions out there I've never seen guys keep their shit more squared away than firefighters. I have almost no experience on the volunteer end but some on the career side. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:45:16 AM EST
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They are status symbols for towns kind of like Mercedes and BMW used to be 4 people
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:50:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FD likes to choke the roads down to one lane only that way traffic has to slow to a crawl to admire their rigs when they go by! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:51:35 AM EST
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It's not just those shiny rims and big greeeel, my little VFD has top notch everything..... commercial kitchen with lady aux to cook, gym, massive hall and huge paved parking lot...... it's a hoot if your in the clique or get invited to the social. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:39:08 AM EST
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I have maybe one call a 36 and we are still busier than half the nations departments. I left full time EMS running 10 calls a 12 hour to this. Yea it gets boring. As for the public service haters the "municipality" I live in will most likely vote to not establish a permanent tax for fire suppression in unincorporated areas. It usually runs on a millage but the area is broke. So fire service is about to end for them. Going to be interesting for 20-30k people after that because state law prevents city services and taxes from being used in those areas. They moved out in the country to enjoy low taxes. should be sporty with housefires soon @thugbuster Dont you live in this area? |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 9:24:49 AM EST
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Firefighters like to not be hit by cars. A crash in the #1 lane doesn’t mean the #1,2,3 need to be closed!! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 9:34:46 AM EST
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Traffic pattern bub A crash in the #1 lane doesn’t mean the #1,2,3 need to be closed!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Firefighters like to not be hit by cars. A crash in the #1 lane doesn’t mean the #1,2,3 need to be closed!! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 9:35:36 AM EST
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It's not just those shiny rims and big greeeel, my little VFD has top notch everything..... commercial kitchen with lady aux to cook, gym, massive hall and huge paved parking lot...... it's a hoot if your in the clique or get invited to the social. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 9:52:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Traffic pattern bub A crash in the #1 lane doesn’t mean the #1,2,3 need to be closed!! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 9:57:24 AM EST
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The standard is the accident lane plus one. If it was in in the #1 lane I'd put the rig across 1 and 2 all day without losing a minute's sleep. If the wreck extended into the second lane then, well three it is. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:08:53 AM EST
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Well after you put on a band aid, crack an ice pack, and throw down some kitty litter and pull away like a fart in the wind your “standard” has caused 1-2 secondary crashes and fucked up the traffic pattern for an hour to come still Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The standard is the accident lane plus one. If it was in in the #1 lane I'd put the rig across 1 and 2 all day without losing a minute's sleep. If the wreck extended into the second lane then, well three it is. I always did what I could to get traffic running as quickly as possible, but if you want to compromise firefighter safety for inconvenienced commuters then you should apply for CHP. Those guys are incident command for everything on the highways for some dumb reason. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:10:12 AM EST
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Of all the dumb shit tax money is spent on this is waaaaayyyy down at the bottom of the list for me.
Paint and chrome aren't exactly budget Buster's either. We live in an extremely wealthy nation, our most needed services should have top notch stuff. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:12:15 AM EST
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Do we need huge chrome bumpers and mirror like perfect glassy paint? Coat the fire truck in rhino liner on the exterior and you'd never have to wash it. If police did the same things as fire , cops would be driving driving Rolls Royce Phantoms. No, seriously, I just wondered why fire trucks are always so blingy when it seems like wasted money versus being practical and function over form. I know cities take pride in perfectly clean, shiny fire trucks, but why? |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:15:12 AM EST
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Do we need huge chrome bumpers and mirror like perfect glassy paint? Coat the fire truck in rhino liner on the exterior and you'd never have to wash it. If police did the same things as fire , cops would be driving driving Rolls Royce Phantoms. No, seriously, I just wondered why fire trucks are always so blingy when it seems like wasted money versus being practical and function over form. I know cities take pride in perfectly clean, shiny fire trucks, but why? 
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:16:35 AM EST
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It would seem that the "boss" is either trolling, or bitter about not getting hired by a fire department.
Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, our department has had a blocking unit hit on the good old DC beltway at least once a year. This has undoubtedly save lives. Many years ago, I saw one of our people get hit after a drunk drove around the accident scene and into her. That being said, believe me when I say, most of us want a no frills fire truck. I just want the basics to do the job. Bells and whistles only equate to mechanical issues. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:24:41 AM EST
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It would seem that the "boss" is either trolling, or bitter about not getting hired by a fire department. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, our department has had a blocking unit hit on the good old DC beltway at least once a year. This has undoubtedly save lives. Many years ago, I saw one of our people get hit after a drunk drove around the accident scene and into her. That being said, believe me when I say, most of us want a no frills fire truck. I just want the basics to do the job. Bells and whistles only equate to mechanical issues. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:24:54 AM EST
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I would think part of it is recruiting. The fire trucks look cool as hell and makes little boys want to be firemen when they grow up.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:29:23 AM EST
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You realize that manufacturers do that at their own expense? I work in school busses for a living, if we order XXX number of busses we get a complimentary trip to the plant and have training classes at no extra cost. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The chrome is just a small part of it. Like flying half the department out, staying in separate rooms, to visit it while it's being built.  |
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