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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 6:01:13 AM EDT
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It's not my favorite pistol, but my 92FS has upwards of 12k rounds through it without a single weapon related failure. It's been used hard…not abused but not a safe queen/range toy. It's accurate and soft shooting once you get accustomed to the gigantic grip and shitty trigger.

As one NCOIC put it, "They're 100% reliable until they break."

I also have an M9 that is unfired.

Best upgrades are a factory "D" spring, steel guide rod and some Hogue grips.

I have Sig's, CZ's, Glock's, 1911's etc but in a SHTF the Beretta will be in my thigh rig. I'll probably have a G19 or G21SF nearby too. And maybe the 226.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:24:02 AM EDT
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Sadly the Sig's are still better then the Beretta's despite all of the unproven one sided issues you listed.



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Nice personal attack, bro!



 
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:29:14 AM EDT
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Off topic but for you guys with large hands who like .45 ACP, you might like this one.

Mine is very accurate also.  

CZ 97B
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:30:17 AM EDT
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The CZ97B is one of the few .45s that I'm interested in. The one I tried was very accurate.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:31:17 AM EDT
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The CZ97B is one of the few .45s that I'm interested in. The one I tried was very accurate.
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Off topic but for you guys with large hands who like .45 ACP, you might like this one.

Mine is very accurate also.  

CZ 97B


The CZ97B is one of the few .45s that I'm interested in. The one I tried was very accurate.


You should seriously consider buying one.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:33:18 AM EDT
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Off topic but for you guys with large hands who like .45 ACP, you might like this one.

Mine is very accurate also.  

CZ 97B


The CZ97B is one of the few .45s that I'm interested in. The one I tried was very accurate.


You should seriously consider buying one.


It's on my list, but I've got a few things I want to get first. I recently spent a ton of money on reloading gear, so money is tight.
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Just so you know, the older versions had problems with feeding hollow points and I had to send my barrel back to the USA distributor to have the feed ramps fixed up.

It was free but you should know about this before you buy.

The problem has since been corrected at the factory on all the newer models.  

(Mine is about 10 years old and they remedied this years ago..................just a tidbit of info if you buy a used one.)
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:42:55 AM EDT
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They are disliked because it replaced the 1911 and for some it is cool to dislike an issued item.
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Just so you know, the older versions had problems with feeding hollow points and I had to send my barrel back to the USA distributor to have the feed ramps fixed up.

It was free but you should know about this before you buy.

The problem has since been corrected at the factory on all the newer models.  

(Mine is about 10 years old and they remedied this years ago..................just a tidbit of info if you buy a used one.)
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It's on my list, but I've got a few things I want to get first. I recently spent a ton of money on reloading gear, so money is tight.


Just so you know, the older versions had problems with feeding hollow points and I had to send my barrel back to the USA distributor to have the feed ramps fixed up.

It was free but you should know about this before you buy.

The problem has since been corrected at the factory on all the newer models.  

(Mine is about 10 years old and they remedied this years ago..................just a tidbit of info if you buy a used one.)


Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:44:53 AM EDT
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Soldiers always find something to bitch about. I bet they bitched about the 1911 when it was issued.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:51:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 8:08:17 AM EDT
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I have a Beretta US made 92FS and although it's definitely too big for a concealed carry, I still love the feel of it when fired. Smoothest action of any of my other handguns. I assume that's because of its weight and longer barrel length. All my other handguns have a much stronger kick to them. Compared to them, this one's like shooting my 10/22 rifle.

Even my wife prefers shooting it, compared to my concealed carry or my FNPs.

I could use the money from selling it, but at the same time, it's a nice gun to have.



Link Posted: 2/2/2014 8:10:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 8:28:37 AM EDT
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It also has a grip that makes a Glock seem small.

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Glocks DO have small grips and it's not just relative. Measure their width to the width of any other double-stack service pistol.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 8:35:12 AM EDT
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Glocks DO have small grips and it's not just relative. Measure their width to the width of any other double-stack service pistol.
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It also has a grip that makes a Glock seem small.

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Glocks DO have small grips and it's not just relative. Measure their width to the width of any other double-stack service pistol.


But the circumference chest thumpers said they have the same outside diameter.

Some people have trouble understanding that a "fat" grip is more about width than total circumference, and makes a huge difference in what is comfortable to people lacking ape-like appendages.


Link Posted: 2/2/2014 8:37:22 AM EDT
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I had a Bereta and I fired thousands thru it. It always ran well for me. I sold it because I dumped the caliber to consolidate my collection.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:14:10 AM EDT
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I HAD a G19. It was the first gun I sold off, and I don't miss it.

I HAD a P226. I sold it during the panic at retail so I could get my money back. I don't miss it.

I just bought my second Beretta 92. For me, it's my go-to service pistol. It's the gun that lives in my nightstand, and it's the one I'd take if I knew trouble can't be avoided.

The only other pistol family that I have interest in but that I've yet to really try is the M&P.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:28:02 AM EDT
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They're bulky, safety is in a weird place, don't really have anywhere for your weak hand, have funky feeling triggers, and don't shoot that well.

I had a US made 92FS that didn't group worth of shit. Sent it back to Beretta and everything. They sent it back with a horrible test target and said it was within factory spec. That was enough to make me sell it.

I bought an Italian made 92 FS years later, and it shot much better. I still didn't like the way it felt in ny hands though, so I didn't shoot the thing much. I ended up selling it during the panic for 50% more than I paid for it. I have no intentions of getting another one.

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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:12:55 AM EDT
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I like it better then most other DA/SA guns, except for the HKs. But I find single action, striker fired or DAO tend to be easier to shoot well. I like a consistent trigger pull. That being said there is nothing wrong with a M9 with factory mags.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:19:51 AM EDT
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Beretta 92 Steel:


Beretta 92 Billenium:


Here is a better picture of the Billenium carbon fiber grips:


Supposedly the Beretta 92 is the duty gun for the St. Louis PD.  I can't remember if it is an FS model or the D model which is strictly DAO.

STLPD also carries the Beretta Storm carbine.

I have the 20 round MecGars for my Beretta 92 so when I was really into shooting USPSA matches I seldom had to do a mag change during a stage.  I shot Limited minor.  I am still too cheap to spring for a $2,500 STI .40 cal limited racegun.






Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:22:53 AM EDT
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I love them. Just bought an M9A1
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:37:11 AM EDT
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I'm sure the 92F is fine if you want bottom of the bucket.  Glock, HK, Sig and especially CZ are its masters now.
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Junk.  I can't think of a worse Wondernine.


Bull Fucking Shit

Out of the XM9 Trials the Beretta 92FS, FN GP35, and Sig P226 are the only contenders still in production. The only other wondernine at the time that would have been "better" was the Glock 17 which would have been impossible due to the XM9's Specs.

In 1984 the cutting edge of military handguns was either the 92F or the P226. There are a lot of better choices today, but to say the 92FS is junk is laughable.


Whatever, rigged/staged tests were rigged. 92F is ok at best and laughable at worst which seems to be the case with every other one produced.


Whatever

Read this first before engaging mouth.

Point is this. The 92F was great then, and is better today with all the upgrades Beretta has incorporated. Its a fucking world class pistol, has been proven in combat and has even been licensed/copied.



I'm sure the 92F is fine if you want bottom of the bucket.  Glock, HK, Sig and especially CZ are its masters now.




I've owned multiples of every handgun you listed except H&Ks, and you are still going full retard.



Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:40:06 AM EDT
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If it wasn't for Die Hard and Lethal Weapon most people would have never bought one.

Even the Taurus 'version' is better.
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If it wasn't for Die Hard and Lethal Weapon most people would have never bought one.

Even the Taurus 'version' is better.


So the 30+ countries that use/used the 92FS and even made it under license based it on 80s movies? I guess if Point Break came out earlier we would be using Sig P226s.

And just saying the PT92 is better removes all credibility.


ETA: Before the CZ lovers jump on about how many countries use the CZ75, it was NEVER licensed since it was released before the Iron Curtain fell. So the reason there are so many CZ clones is you could make it for free without paying CZ a dime thanks to Communism. Since its easier just to copy a good pistol that instead of buying license rights.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:41:13 AM EDT
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Here is a video of Ben Stoeger shooting a sub 4 second El Prez with a Beretta 92 Elite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RD_Hqt2Z-A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:43:07 AM EDT
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I'm going to get one some day
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:53:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:56:08 AM EDT
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Love mine.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:59:51 AM EDT
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Totally shitty gun.  Totally.  


What do you know anyways?

I think our opinion of the M9 is different from a lot of other service members because most of the time it was the only gun we carried, and served a purpose for something other than going to the DFAC.

And we worked on them.

And we taught others to use them.

And we realize what a shitty mistake it was to switch to Sigs, especially for what we do.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:01:27 AM EDT
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I never liked the FS model much, due mostly to that stupid safety that would always flip on at the wrong time.  I have a 92G elite with the Brigadier slide and it's one of my favorite full size handguns.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:01:32 AM EDT
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Break locking blocks.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:03:00 AM EDT
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M9 has always run like a sowing machine for me

Super accurate , rugged and not real finicky on ammo

The Cons are an exposed trigger bar and the safety - And the trigger bar retaining pin flying out

if Beretta would move the safety down to the frame that would be fucking great man - But now with 18 round flush and 20 round slightly exposed mags the M9 is a good contender again - Makes a good suppressor host because of the locking barrel . No Booster
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:06:07 AM EDT
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Because it fires the 9mm round which as we know, has never killed anyone and merely tickles anyone who is shot with it.
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He would be faster with a 1911.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:08:25 AM EDT
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Yep, I've found it to be the quietest 9mm host with my T9 on a fixed mount.

Also, not as big as people make it out to be. The grip profile may make it feel bigger, but - as already shown here earlier - if you actually go and measure it, you'll find it right in line with other full-size service pistols.
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Gabby Giffords would be in complete potato with you.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:12:30 AM EDT
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Beats me, I've always enjoyed mine.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:27:44 AM EDT
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I can not possibly be the only guy to have full and mid-size Glocks,SIGs,BHPs,plastic and metal HKs,a 92,couple S&Ws...and not think ANY of them are junk.

I love reading how shitty guns I've all shot quite a bit are. To each their own when it comes to taste but there really are very few truly BAD modern pistols.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:41:22 AM EDT
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My 92FS was my first handgun purchase in 1998 or so.  It's guilty of all the bad things stated previously.  But when I shoot it, I'm as accurate as Rooster Cogburn (drunk, not sober).

Will never carry it, but will never sell it.  It's a family heirloom.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:42:43 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:48:07 AM EDT
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M9 has always run like a sowing machine for me

Super accurate , rugged and not real finicky on ammo

The Cons are an exposed trigger bar and the safety - And the trigger bar retaining pin flying out

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Sowing machine?

Link Posted: 2/2/2014 11:49:26 AM EDT
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The controls are ridiculous. Whoever designed the safety should be shot.
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Wait until you have to fix the slide-mounted safety.  All those unnecessary fiddly bits.
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Bullshit what's better?
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Bullshit what's better?


It all depends on the person.

I can pick up an M9 and just shoot it. I'm confident in its reliability and durability. I can manipulate it very well.

The person next to me may not be the same. Doesn't mean it's a junk gun (like so many say) it's just not the best gun for them
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One of the books on my shelf has photos of the protype guns that switched from the slide to the frame, with the frame still in the raw, in those it claims they had advise from SEALs who were use to S&W mod 39s
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+1. I love mine.



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Bullshit what's better?
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Bullshit what's better?


Glock, M&P, XD, 1911, FNX, HK45/P30...

ETA: I use an M9 to demonstrate a few things in my classes sometimes because the company paid for it. I fucking hate it. It's not the worst handgun ever, but I can't fathom why someone would believe it is the best.
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Glock, M&P, XD, 1911, FNX, HK45/P30...

ETA: I use an M9 to demonstrate a few things in my classes sometimes because the company paid for it. I fucking hate it. It's not the worst handgun ever, but I can't fathom why someone would believe it is the best.
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Bullshit what's better?


Glock, M&P, XD, 1911, FNX, HK45/P30...

ETA: I use an M9 to demonstrate a few things in my classes sometimes because the company paid for it. I fucking hate it. It's not the worst handgun ever, but I can't fathom why someone would believe it is the best.


To each their own I guess
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 12:53:52 PM EDT
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I had one sold it. It's actually the only pistol I've ever owned that I sold. I just didn't feel that the extra size and weight were worth it. There are many other smaller, lighter 9mms, with better controls on the market.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 12:55:44 PM EDT
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Don't hate it, but its not a favorite either.
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