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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:22:04 PM EST
 Failed To Load Title aka why Trump won in the Rust Belt aka why the British working class rejected Labour @FoxNews_FTW |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:31:43 PM EST
[#1]
Because we don’t see gov’t as our own personal money dispenser. Because we understand that what’s best for the country might not give us the greatest immediate benefit but almost always will benefit everyone in the long term.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:34:11 PM EST
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Because we don’t see gov’t as our own personal money dispenser. Because we understand that what’s best for the country might not give us the greatest immediate benefit but almost always will benefit everyone in the long term. Trillions in debt yet people think there is a path out that will benefit the taxpayers if we just sacrifice a little more. 
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:34:17 PM EST
[#3]
We realize that the more "government we vote for," less of the of the money we earn stays in our pockets.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:35:36 PM EST
[#4]
I just want to be left alone. That includes my paycheck. I'll decide what goods and services I need and buy them myself.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:43:33 PM EST
[#5]
I think it's in my best interest not to be sent to a gulaug.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:45:42 PM EST
[#6]
Because someone has to pay for the all free stuff and somehow it always ends up being the middle class.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:47:35 PM EST
[#7]
Freedom and individual rights are worth more than paychecks and government handouts.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:47:37 PM EST
[#8]
Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:50:14 PM EST
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. I don't want to be, I refuse to be dependent on the government in that way. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:51:03 PM EST
[#10]
Didn't watch. The Dems pushed NAFTA & GATT, you didn't build that, those jobs are gone and never coming back, ect.
They're all Commies. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:52:34 PM EST
[#11]
The canadian accent diminishes credibility more than it should.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:57:29 PM EST
[#12]
Yeah, who is telling me what MY economic interest is, exactly??
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Posted: 1/24/2020 1:03:09 PM EST
[#13]
The working class is outnumbered by the non-working class...
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Posted: 1/24/2020 1:04:31 PM EST
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I think it's in my best interest not to be sent to a gulaug. Quoted:
Freedom and individual rights are worth more than paychecks and government handouts.  Attached File... |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 1:18:02 PM EST
[#15]
The media is nothing but propaganda distributors, then there's unions and the dems. They all promote divisiveness based on lies. Rich against the poor, employees against employers, gender against gender, race against race and so on. This people are all misinformed , they get the propaganda from the same people, the same sources. You can hear it when they all say the same things, literally word for word. It's damn near a whole nation of willing imbeciles.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 1:29:43 PM EST
[#16]
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests.   By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). 
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Posted: 1/24/2020 3:36:54 PM EST
[#17]
“Why won’t you dumb, cousin-humping rednecks vote for us?!”
Get fucked, commies. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:06:51 PM EST
[#18]
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If your interests (as a working class person) is to promote massive wealth disparity, then you're doing great. If you're "not so dumb" then you also realize that government allows for wealth accumulation. And that there is no "free market". So you'll happily allow what's basically an upward redistribution of wealth through legislation, but then balk at downward redistribution. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png Rich people aren't stealing money from people. The government does that. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:10:41 PM EST
[#19]
Promise to bring in migrants from all over the world in massive numbers inflating the labor pool, driving down wages while simultaneously offering them Healthcare driving up the cost of medical service.
Promise crushing regulation on business forcing companies to keep huge amounts of capital locked up in order to weather the abuse, or outright make it impossible to compete with other countries that don't have half of the red tape to navigate, forcing manufacture overseas removing even more of the already thinning jobs, devaluing labor even further since you are lucky to even have a job because there are more people than jobs. Promise aggressive taxation on top earners placing a wall between those who already have money and those trying to move upward, upward mobility is crippled further stratifying the haves from the have-nots, while also forcing employers to put away even more money to cover ever growing expenses, further limiting the ability to hire people or invest in future innovation. But yeah voting against my best interests. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:10:48 PM EST
[#20]
because conservative policy is actually in favor of their economic interests? Just a fuckin hunch here
_ETA: @Media_Noche how is disparity relevant or even inherently bad? Wealth is not a zero sum game and Democrat policy to reduce/eliminate disparity actually causes financial injury to all. And there is no "working class". The fucking CEO works just like the guy in the mail room. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:17:54 PM EST
[#21]
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If your interests (as a working class person) is to promote massive wealth disparity, then you're doing great. If you're "not so dumb" then you also realize that government allows for wealth accumulation. And that there is no "free market". So you'll happily allow what's basically an upward redistribution of wealth through legislation, but then balk at downward redistribution. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:22:24 PM EST
[#22]
As others have pointed out ITT...
The working class is voting against the coastal/urban progressives' interests. I'd rather be freer (more liberty) than slightly better off financially, than earning 6-figures a year. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:26:03 PM EST
[#23]
@HappyLife_NoWife @Neotopiaman
The boomer generation chose prosperity, or the illusion of prosperity, over freedom and a strong nation. 
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:31:38 PM EST
[#24]
I don't wish to work 60 hours a week for the luxury of living in some shitbox 80 year old house on 1/8 acre of land.
Everyone acts as if leftist ideas are new and untested. The left took control of American cities that are built on centuries of wealth and absolutely ravaged them. With the money that flows through these placed you'd think the streets would be paved with gold instead of feces and potholes. But do tell me how someone like Cuomo can help me economically. Both parties are corporatist wretches, at least the right has a chance of being salvaged. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:33:30 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And here is the great fallacy that perpetuates the myth. Trillions in debt yet people think there is a path out that will benefit the taxpayers if we just sacrifice a little more. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:36:40 PM EST
[#26]
Hows about because I already had a mommy and daddy and didn't need any more? Also, "Sanders Claus 2020!"....yay.....
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:37:47 PM EST
[#27]
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If your interests (as a working class person) is to promote massive wealth disparity, then you're doing great. If you're "not so dumb" then you also realize that government allows for wealth accumulation. And that there is no "free market". So you'll happily allow what's basically an upward redistribution of wealth through legislation, but then balk at downward redistribution. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png If people spent half as much time focused on improving their own situation as they do gawking over how rich people lived, they would be able to improve their quality of life far more than any number of socialist programs. Unless you are a freeloader of course, in which case the more government cheese you can weasel out of productive citizens the better. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:38:09 PM EST
[#28]
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If your interests (as a working class person) is to promote massive wealth disparity, then you're doing great. If you're "not so dumb" then you also realize that government allows for wealth accumulation. And that there is no "free market". So you'll happily allow what's basically an upward redistribution of wealth through legislation, but then balk at downward redistribution. Leftism everywhere creates a powerful wealthy elite and a mass of poor. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:41:03 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It amazes me that people worry so much about .1% of the population. How does their prosperity affect you in any way, shape or form? Is your quality of life somehow diminished because they have a bigger house than you or they can afford a nicer car than you? Their wealth does not affect your quality of life in the slightest. If people spent half as much time focused on improving their own situation as they do gawking over how rich people lived, they would be able to improve their quality of life far more than any number of socialist programs. Unless you are a freeloader of course, in which case the more government cheese you can weasel out of productive citizens the better. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:44:20 PM EST
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What is the myth and what is the fallacy? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: And here is the great fallacy that perpetuates the myth. Trillions in debt yet people think there is a path out that will benefit the taxpayers if we just sacrifice a little more. There is a path out of debt. However it would be excruciatingly painful, require real sacrifices, and the people who actually have power to fix it have no financial or political motivation to do so. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:48:33 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It amazes me that people worry so much about .1% of the population. How does their prosperity affect you in any way, shape or form? Is your quality of life somehow diminished because they have a bigger house than you or they can afford a nicer car than you? Their wealth does not affect your quality of life in the slightest. If people spent half as much time focused on improving their own situation as they do gawking over how rich people lived, they would be able to improve their quality of life far more than any number of socialist programs. Unless you are a freeloader of course, in which case the more government cheese you can weasel out of productive citizens the better. Welcome to identity politics 101, here we learn how to weaken others instead of how to strengthen ourselves. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:48:51 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If your interests (as a working class person) is to promote massive wealth disparity, then you're doing great. If you're "not so dumb" then you also realize that government allows for wealth accumulation. And that there is no "free market". So you'll happily allow what's basically an upward redistribution of wealth through legislation, but then balk at downward redistribution. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 4:57:00 PM EST
[#33]
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It amazes me that people worry so much about .1% of the population. How does their prosperity affect you in any way, shape or form? Is your quality of life somehow diminished because they have a bigger house than you or they can afford a nicer car than you? Their wealth does not affect your quality of life in the slightest. We all agree economic power disparity doesn't matter in a theoretical libertopia. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 5:43:26 PM EST
[#34]
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Hawaii is nice. You should probably stay there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png
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Posted: 1/24/2020 5:59:30 PM EST
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. Thomas Frank (?) wrote a book after George Bush beat John Kerry called "What's the matter with Kansas?" His supposition was that people in Kansas had voted against their own economic best interest by chosing Bush over Kerry because Kerry would have given them things that Bush would not. But he failed to understand people in that part of he country did not want or need what Kerry had to offer. And that is the problem with all Democrats. They cannot comprehend that some people would rather do for themselves and have government stay out of the way instead of having government do it all. Especially considering most people realize that a government which can do anything for you is also powerful enough to do anything to you. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:05:42 PM EST
[#36]
receiving handouts =/= working class economic interests
the progressives are so used to pandering to the gibs that they can't understand that many people don't want to be generational welfare recipients |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:09:08 PM EST
[#37]
Blah blah something something about how it is somehow in my economic interest to export my job to Japan or China and then import millions of low rent shit-holers to suppress wages in every type of work I could do in between real jobs.
El-Oh-El. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:10:07 PM EST
[#38]
Voting yourself into slavery is in NOBODY’s economic self interest.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:11:40 PM EST
[#39]
Yeah they keep voting republican which is the party of immigration for cheap labor. Also newsflash wage growth is not keeping up with inflation. One more economic down turn like 2008 and America is gonna be lit
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:13:57 PM EST
[#40]
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You a commie, bud? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:14:43 PM EST
[#41]
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It amazes me that people worry so much about .1% of the population. How does their prosperity affect you in any way, shape or form? Is your quality of life somehow diminished because they have a bigger house than you or they can afford a nicer car than you? Their wealth does not affect your quality of life in the slightest. If people spent half as much time focused on improving their own situation as they do gawking over how rich people lived, they would be able to improve their quality of life far more than any number of socialist programs. Unless you are a freeloader of course, in which case the more government cheese you can weasel out of productive citizens the better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png If people spent half as much time focused on improving their own situation as they do gawking over how rich people lived, they would be able to improve their quality of life far more than any number of socialist programs. Unless you are a freeloader of course, in which case the more government cheese you can weasel out of productive citizens the better. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:18:17 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If your interests (as a working class person) is to promote massive wealth disparity, then you're doing great. If you're "not so dumb" then you also realize that government allows for wealth accumulation. And that there is no "free market". So you'll happily allow what's basically an upward redistribution of wealth through legislation, but then balk at downward redistribution. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png So someone shouldn't have more as to prevent jealousy? That's some real commie shit right there... |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:20:14 PM EST
[#43]
Muh wealths disparity
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:21:59 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not wealth redistribution downwards. It the gov taking money and giving it to their own cronies. More equality comes when there is less government involvement in the markets. Rich people aren't stealing money from people. The government does that. Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not wealth redistribution downwards. It the gov taking money and giving it to their own cronies. More equality comes when there is less government involvement in the markets. Rich people aren't stealing money from people. The government does that. https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/01/29/leaked-trump-infrastructure-plan-is-a-plan-for-corporate-subsidies/ The Trump administration’s plans to rebuild infrastructure in the United States have been leaked, and it appears to be as bad as feared. At least three-quarters of intended funding will go toward corporate subsidies, not actual projects. It is possible that no funding will go directly toward projects. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:23:19 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You a commie, bud? |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:24:50 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It amazes me that people worry so much about .1% of the population. How does their prosperity affect you in any way, shape or form? Is your quality of life somehow diminished because they have a bigger house than you or they can afford a nicer car than you? Their wealth does not affect your quality of life in the slightest. If people spent half as much time focused on improving their own situation as they do gawking over how rich people lived, they would be able to improve their quality of life far more than any number of socialist programs. Unless you are a freeloader of course, in which case the more government cheese you can weasel out of productive citizens the better. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:26:25 PM EST
[#47]
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By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png 
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:27:01 PM EST
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Nope. Just not totally uneducated on the subject and living in some fantasy bubble where government doesn't exist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You a commie, bud? 
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:27:56 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If your interests (as a working class person) is to promote massive wealth disparity, then you're doing great. If you're "not so dumb" then you also realize that government allows for wealth accumulation. And that there is no "free market". So you'll happily allow what's basically an upward redistribution of wealth through legislation, but then balk at downward redistribution. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because we're not so dumb to believe the shell game lie that we're voting "against" our own interests. https://anticap.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/wealth-inequality.jpg http://realkm.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States.jpg By the way, do you know what stat best predicts violence in society? It isn't poverty. It's the gini coefficient (which measures wealth disparity). https://globalinequalityandhealth.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-04-11-at-11-48-13-pm.png How come you didn't show that graph? Here, look at that correlation! 
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:29:49 PM EST
[#50]
socialism is NOT in the working class best interest.
#fakenews |
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