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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:28:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Because it's a lot nicer to shoot than a Glock, it's fancy compared to a Glock, the steel frame version basically doesn't move, etc
But I still carry a G19 every day. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:29:59 PM EDT
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I bought some with the thought of replacing my glocks I carry and I still carry my glocks.
Eta: they are nice and fun to shoot and very accurate. I have a p and a c2 both with rmrs. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:30:55 PM EDT
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It has nothing to do with how accurate the gun is, it is how accurate the gun makes the shooter. I can shoot a 2011 WAY better than my comp'd 320. Mainly it boils down to the trigger.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:32:32 PM EDT
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It's cool but I'm not sure it's $2500 cool for a carry gun.
I'm good with my glock 42. I'd FO if she was $1500 and a light weight single stack tho... |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:32:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Have you shot one?
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:32:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:35:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has nothing to do with how accurate the gun is, it is how accurate the gun makes the shooter. I can shoot a 2011 WAY better than my comp'd 320. Mainly it boils down to the trigger. I've been training almost exclusively with Glocks for about the past 13 years. When put on a timer, I shoot my Staccato slightly faster and more accurately than the duty G45 than I'm very used to and comfortable with. With just a little bit of training and sticking to the 2011 platform, I could probably be much faster and more accurate with the 2011. The difference between the guns slows me down and makes me work harder with the Staccato at the moment, but it ends up being much easier to shoot well Thred needz pitcherz   |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:35:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has nothing to do with how accurate the gun is, it is how accurate the gun makes the shooter. I can shoot a 2011 WAY better than my comp'd 320. Mainly it boils down to the trigger. A nice 1911 trigger can be had for much cheaper |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:35:52 PM EDT
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Because it’s expensive
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:36:16 PM EDT
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It's a good gun.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:36:57 PM EDT
[#11]
They're very nice pistols. I shoot a CZ Shadow 2 for Carry Optics but have thought about shooting the Staccato some more for Limited Optics.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:37:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @whiskersthecat Lol at OP - Literally every shooter is better with SAO from new to IDPA Champion - They are the most affordable 2011 out there that isn't trash - Glock 17 > Glock 19 - Increased capacity - Has OP ever fired a SAO? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Probably because we recently saw a LEO unalive a BG with nice gear.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:38:10 PM EDT
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Because some people aren't poor and like nice things?
Why do poor/cheap people always feel the need to talk shit about the stuff they can't afford or are too cheap to buy? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:39:28 PM EDT
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OP: WHY ARE YOU LIKING WHAT i DON'T LIKE!!!!!?????
1. Because we can. 2. It's a nicer gun. 3. You're not our supervisor. 4. A G19 isn't the best answer to everything and isn't the most accurate either. 4. Why are you worried about it? 5. It's our money to do as we please, not yours to to decide in any part of this decision making process. 6. Because America. 7. Pound sand. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:39:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol at OP - Literally every shooter is better with SAO from new to IDPA Champion - They are the most affordable 2011 out there that isn't trash - Glock 17 > Glock 19 - Increased capacity - Has OP ever fired a SAO? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @whiskersthecat Lol at OP - Literally every shooter is better with SAO from new to IDPA Champion - They are the most affordable 2011 out there that isn't trash - Glock 17 > Glock 19 - Increased capacity - Has OP ever fired a SAO? DWX is trash? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:42:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DWX is trash? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because some people aren't poor and like nice things? Why do poor/cheap people always feel the need to talk shit about the stuff they can't afford or are too cheap to buy? Every damn time. Just how they see a wAsTeD oPpOrTuNiTy for a G19 when seeing a Staccato is beyond reason. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:43:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it's expensive  |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:43:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: DWX is trash? Quoted: Not exactly a 2011 to be fair. This. CZ mags isn't a 2011 |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:45:07 PM EDT
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why not? people buy trucks but never drive off road, or towing anything. yet they pay the gas bill and maintenance of larger vehicle when smaller cheaper one would do just fine.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:46:36 PM EDT
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I’ve yet to see a shooter that can’t shoot a 3011 better than a 19. All skill levels.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:47:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:48:11 PM EDT
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Probably the 3rd time I ever fired handguns, I went to a range and rented a glock, a sig p226, a kriss vector, and a Sig 1911. I was massively more accurate at 10 yards with the 1911 than the others. It wasn't even close. The straight back pull of the trigger and grip angle makes it better than all the others for effortless accuracy.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:48:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Most of arfcom is not most of the gun owning community
Most of arfcom isn’t buying staccatos |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why not? people buy trucks but never drive off road, or towing anything. yet they pay the gas bill and maintenance of larger vehicle when smaller cheaper one would do just fine. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:52:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: a Glock 19 is more accurate than most of us and way cheaper?  Attached FileSpeak for yourself. Those of us that can shoot a staccato or 2011/1911 better than glocks enjoy the enhanced performance. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:52:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol at OP - Literally every shooter is better with SAO from new to IDPA Champion - They are the most affordable 2011 out there that isn't trash - Glock 17 > Glock 19 - Increased capacity - Has OP ever fired a SAO? I love my NightHawk War Hawk. Own a couple Ed Browns. I am a better shot with my Sig P226 Legion than I am with anything else I own. Sig really outdid themselves on that one. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:52:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve yet to see a shooter that can’t shoot a 3011 better than a 19. All skill levels. QFT |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:55:34 PM EDT
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Why don't free men buy what I think they should buy!!!!!!
I have a TRX that I only drive to work and has never been off pavement. I have a Wrangler that I leave the top off and drive on pavement on sunny days. I own many mechanical watches that are expensive and don't tell time as well as my phone. I own more guns that I've never shot than ones I have by a 3 to 1 margin probably. I wear running shoes but don't run. I own a retriever but don't hunt with him. What else?.....oh, I own Staccatos. If you've left "need" behind a while ago, why not buy whatever sounds fun? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:55:52 PM EDT
[#31]
To rich for me for those that can afford them I am sure they are nice.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:56:08 PM EDT
[#32]
Kind of Karenish to even be concerned what someone else is shooting. No impact on you at all.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has nothing to do with how accurate the gun is, it is how accurate the gun makes the shooter. I can shoot a 2011 WAY better than my comp'd 320. Mainly it boils down to the trigger. Pretty much this. I took a class where I was paired up with a Staccato shooter. I was using a P365xl and was handily outshooting him. When I tried the Staccato, I did way better than I was with the P365xl. Not much to do with accuracy but I could shoot way faster with the Staccato. Nicer guns remove barriers to shooting better. I'd recommend taking a class that really pushes your limits, then you'll see where the firearm may be holding you back. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:56:25 PM EDT
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I like guns chambered in 9mm luger.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:57:58 PM EDT
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You'll shoot a better gun better. The whole "the gun is more accurate than the shooter" is bullshit. Yes, the mechanical accuracy is, but there is a lot more that goes into making a good shot than mechanical accuracy.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you shot one? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:03:15 PM EDT
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I've never shot a pistol more accurately than the XC. It made me far better than I am. It really did feel like cheating. The trigger is amazing, but the weight and compensator also help, as does the 1 MOA SRO my buddy has mounted on it.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:04:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love my NightHawk War Hawk. Own a couple Ed Browns. I am a better shot with my Sig P226 Legion than I am with anything else I own. Sig really outdid themselves on that one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol at OP - Literally every shooter is better with SAO from new to IDPA Champion - They are the most affordable 2011 out there that isn't trash - Glock 17 > Glock 19 - Increased capacity - Has OP ever fired a SAO? I love my NightHawk War Hawk. Own a couple Ed Browns. I am a better shot with my Sig P226 Legion than I am with anything else I own. Sig really outdid themselves on that one. Nice bro. So really this thread should be titled "Why haven't you joined SAO Master Race yet?" |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:06:22 PM EDT
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They kick ass that's why. I shoot mine better than any other handgun I have ever owned. It's like cheating.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:11:05 PM EDT
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I waste money on other things I don't really need so I can't say anything. Personal preference is king.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:17:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: When the vast majority of people are not capable of firing a handgun accurately anyway, why spend the scratch for a Staccato when a Glock 19 is more accurate than most of us and way cheaper? I personally wouldn't be forking out $1500 to $2k+ for a handgun, but I can see why people want 2011's. This is just some speculation and different people have different preferences, but I'm under the impression that a lot of people prefer a good single action hammer fired trigger over a good striker action trigger (please understand that this isn't sarcasm-- I personally don't have much of a preference one way or the other as long as the trigger is a good production grade). Please keep in mind that people may want a (correctly placed for them  ) manual thumb safety, 1911 ergonomics (grip angle, etc.) with the Glock/M&P/XD/P320 capacity.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:20:20 PM EDT
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I have quite a bit in my 17/19 and have been shooting it for years and love every part of it that I essentially made for my hand and style of shooting. I have have had legions and nice 1911's and never once considered using another gun until I shot two Staccato's...It really is like cheating.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:21:42 PM EDT
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Smells like poors in this thread.
 Love them or hate them, Staccato changing the perception of the 2011 from a competition only gun, to an enthusiast/duty platform. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:23:37 PM EDT
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John Wick, motherfucker! That's why...
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:25:47 PM EDT
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Texans like to buy guns from their state.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:28:21 PM EDT
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Because people love guns and gadgets
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:29:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: When the vast majority of people are not capable of firing a handgun accurately anyway, why spend the scratch for a Staccato when a Glock 19 is more accurate than most of us and way cheaper?  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:34:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love my NightHawk War Hawk. Own a couple Ed Browns. I am a better shot with my Sig P226 Legion than I am with anything else I own. Sig really outdid themselves on that one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol at OP - Literally every shooter is better with SAO from new to IDPA Champion - They are the most affordable 2011 out there that isn't trash - Glock 17 > Glock 19 - Increased capacity - Has OP ever fired a SAO? I love my NightHawk War Hawk. Own a couple Ed Browns. I am a better shot with my Sig P226 Legion than I am with anything else I own. Sig really outdid themselves on that one. I feel the same way about my 220 legion SAO. It's the only gun I own that I enjoy shooting more than my 1911s. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:36:41 PM EDT
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I carry mine because it has a 1911 trigger. I have shooting and carrying a 1911 or STI for decades. I also like the increase in the number of rounds in the pistol.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 4:51:23 PM EDT
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Don't own a Staccato, can't speak to the love for them. They seem like really nice guns.
I will take almost any hammer fired gun over almost any striker fired gun almost every time. I do like the Kahr trigger. The G19 is a very good service grade gun if that's what you want. I don't like them much. I carry a Hellcat for it's size, weight, capacity, I wouldn't pick it for a fun shooter. |
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