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Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:06:51 AM EDT
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Story strikes me as a little weird - molested her and her daughter? How long ago was this?  What were the circumstances?  How old was the teenage daughter?
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:07:08 AM EDT
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This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.
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I don't condone what she did but, I understand.

3 years for premeditated murder? I'd say the judge has some common sense of his own.


This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.

It shouldn't be a law. She did nothing wrong. Sentence is unreasonable. Fuck that stupid shit.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:08:22 AM EDT
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He confessed. Fuck him.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:14:38 AM EDT
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Yep, just a mother protecting her child.
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NOT GUILTY by reason of common sense.

Yep, just a mother protecting her child.

Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:15:51 AM EDT
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People freeze to death on the way home from bars all the time during our harsh winters
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:16:25 AM EDT
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It shouldn't be a law. She did nothing wrong. Sentence is unreasonable. Fuck that stupid shit.
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I don't condone what she did but, I understand.

3 years for premeditated murder? I'd say the judge has some common sense of his own.


This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.

It shouldn't be a law. She did nothing wrong. Sentence is unreasonable. Fuck that stupid shit.

Regardless of her reasons, she murdered a man in a reasonably calm and premeditated fashion. Worse, she got caught.

It is my humble opinion that justice has been properly served, here. The molester is dead and the mom got a fair sentence for murder 1 in the slaying.

If you think that vigilante justice, absent any kind of due process, is a way to run a society, then, well .... there's plenty of countries where that's the norm. If you decide to avail yourself of their criminal freedom from prosecution for applying vigilante justice, my only suggestion is that you never piss anyone off enough to kill you since, they'll just claim you "had it coming."
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:17:14 AM EDT
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Totally worth 3 years.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:18:13 AM EDT
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He allegedly confessed and she got stabby.  No need for the law man, prosecutors or courts.  I cannot say what I would do if that happened to one of my children but there is no better justice than swift justice.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:18:30 AM EDT
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He confessed. Fuck him.
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He confessed. Fuck him.

He confessed, according to the person on trial for his murder.

You think maybe, just maybe, she has some self interest in his confession? Is it *possible* she could be compelled by her conscience to maybe stretch the truth, a bit?
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:22:56 AM EDT
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I think the molester should have gotten a trial.  I'm not broken up about it or anything, but due process and all, where practicable and whatnot.

Ultimately, 3 years is probably a good sentence.

That's a hard case to judge, I'm sure, but from the article it seems like he got it right.
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Now if we could just apply the law equally, as it was meant to be applied, by indicting Hillary and all of wall street, we'd be off to a great start.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:26:54 AM EDT
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I wonder if she'll be treated a little differently in prison than other inmates.
(By both the guards and the other prisoners)
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:31:40 AM EDT
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I suspect that she will have a better go of it than most.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:35:59 AM EDT
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I suspect that she will have a better go of it than most.
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I suspect that she will have a better go of it than most.


guards maybe...inmates are inmates....crazy...violent...psychopaths....
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:36:53 AM EDT
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She will be on parole in 18 months.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:36:56 AM EDT
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I suspect that she will have a better go of it than most.


guards maybe...inmates are inmates....crazy...violent...psychopaths....

Who are women, many of whom have children of their own.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:43:23 AM EDT
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It shouldn't be a law. She did nothing wrong. Sentence is unreasonable. Fuck that stupid shit.
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I don't condone what she did but, I understand.

3 years for premeditated murder? I'd say the judge has some common sense of his own.


This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.

It shouldn't be a law. She did nothing wrong. Sentence is unreasonable. Fuck that stupid shit.


How do you know? How do you know the guy actually molested the kid? People confess to shit they didn't do all the time, this is why we have courts and jury to determine if the man was actually guilty.

I hope no one ever decides that you must be guilty of something and just fucking kills you because "you deserve it." you probably wouldnt have the same opinion there...

Like I said, it's not like she walked in on them and just reacted after knowing that the guy molested the girl. She presumed his guilt and premeditated the murder based on her opinion of his guilt.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:43:31 AM EDT
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Now if we could just apply the law equally, as it was meant to be applied, by indicting Hillary and all of wall street, we'd be off to a great start.
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I think the molester should have gotten a trial.  I'm not broken up about it or anything, but due process and all, where practicable and whatnot.

Ultimately, 3 years is probably a good sentence.

That's a hard case to judge, I'm sure, but from the article it seems like he got it right.


Now if we could just apply the law equally, as it was meant to be applied, by indicting Hillary and all of wall street, we'd be off to a great start.


You and I both know that's not how it really works, nor how it is intended to work, regardless of the words on a piece of paper.

And if you want to know why, look no further than a full half of the country willing to completely ignore felony crimes because politics...  well, and also they think she'll give them free shit.


I mean, you've got scores of millions of people in this country that are ignoring the treasonous, felony behavior of a political candidate because they have offered to steal on their behalf.

Boy, when you put it like that...


Not the thread for it, I know, I'm just saying...  this is exactly how civil wars start.  Oh, it won't be the spark, mind you, but it's certainly throwing gasoline on the pyre.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:44:42 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:48:25 AM EDT
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This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.
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I don't condone what she did but, I understand.

3 years for premeditated murder? I'd say the judge has some common sense of his own.


This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.


Don't mess w/ a person's kids.  Molest them or murder them and I'm not going to find someone guilty.  
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:48:35 AM EDT
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Some people just need to die.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 11:50:18 AM EDT
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Justice.  



Don't want to steal the thunder from the govt.  ( I know this is a slippery slope).

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The problem is that guys like you and me who know justice and would find this woman innocent are singled out and dismissed by the prosecuters and never get to serve on these juries. They narrow down the jury pool and choose jurors who will follow their instructions instead of relying on common sense and reverting to what a juror in his heart and mind knows what is right and just.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 12:56:53 PM EDT
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Exactly
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Some people just need to die.
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NOT GUILTY by reason of common sense.



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Some people just need to die.


This  -----  the bare faced, blunt truth.
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I will caution, this level of common sense sentencing is a rarity in the "Justice" system.
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I would gladly give up all my rights and spend three years in prison to end the life of the worthless scum stain that molested my child.


I will caution, this level of common sense sentencing is a rarity in the "Justice" system.
We don't have a "justice system" in the USA, it's a "legal system".  

 
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 1:20:54 PM EDT
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3yrs.  She'll be out much sooner than that.  Small price to pay, IMO.  Worth it.

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Link Posted: 6/4/2016 1:22:09 PM EDT
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Who are women, many of whom have children of their own.
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I suspect that she will have a better go of it than most.


guards maybe...inmates are inmates....crazy...violent...psychopaths....

Who are women, many of whom have children of their own.


empathy is not their strong suit....even at Taycheedah
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 1:57:25 PM EDT
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So she didn't catch this guy in the act of molesting her daughter, but merely took her word for it.......

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He confessed. Fuck him.
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He confessed. Fuck him.


Says the woman facing prison time. Very self-serving.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 2:07:42 PM EDT
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He confessed. Fuck him.
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He confessed. Fuck him.


To whom?

Her? Were there any witnesses besides her?

I'm not saying he didn't molest her kid but claiming he was a chomo is a pretty good scam to get yourself three years for murder.
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For those saying if you would have been on the jury....  you would have been instructed to follow the courts order and look at the facts.  That and you would have been explained the guidelines for sentencing.  I think everyone understands why she did it, but taking the law in to your own hands will have consequences irregardless.  And 3 years is the consequence, probably out much sooner than that as SuperSixOne said.  I see the move for the jury trial was to present her case to a court and in her case worked favorably.  I highly doubt the judge had any option for lighter sentence set forth by the guidelines.  3 years is nothing of a sentence for murder and may qualify her for minimum security facility.  (I don't know all states rules)
There's a special place in prison for people like her anyways.  Usually with a ton of respect from other prisoners and better in woman's prison. Still no walk in the park either.  She'll do he time, it'll be quick and move on with her life hopefully.  Not a repeat offender.
I didn't click on the article but didn't she actually just admit to committing the murder with all evidence all laid out?  If that's the case I'm thinking about yeah, that trial and judge ruled very favorably on her behalf as much as they could.  Even the prosecutor painted her as a good mom.
ETA:  I read it an yes it was the case I heard about.  First off there is much drama in that whole family and the judge couldn't give the 2 year sentence as requested by the defense because of some priors in her history.  Had to be 3 minimum and yes she qualified for a minimum security facility.  The prosecution said any sentence would have been ok.  I think she's eligible for parole in 22 months.  The judge was way lenient in her case.  And think of it like this, once tried and convicted, that's that.  No follow on "federal" charge to follow.  





A jury couldn't acquit her even if they wanted.  Anyone here saying "not guilty" would have been doing her a disservice.  YEah it would be a hung jury and start the process again and maybe next time she would have gotten 20 years.  I have no doubt the judge explained to that jury explicitly not to fuck around and come up with a verdict to which she would receive a "just" sentence.  or something like that.
Let's put it this way, the dead molestor who admitted to the act would have received far more than 3 year sentence.  Possibly looking at 15 plus years.  And last I checked convicted murderers don't have to register as anything.  And ya'll need to understand that it was a very premeditated murder, hence no way manslaughter could remotely apply.
In the end I hope she gets help while in lock up and gets her life in order, preferably move the hell away from that family.
 
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She's not ugly, she's a nice worn out woman who's come through a hard time with more hard time ahead of her.  Her child molested, a killing on her conscience, separated from her family for the next three years, a prison sentence and a public display of her private life.  Good for her.
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I'm not so sure I'd be up to nullify this were I on a jury.  She planned it out, she went over on just the word of her daughter and the confession was only heard by the people killing him.  


Thing is, yeah.... I'd be very tempted to do the same thing if it were my kid, but I also understand that you have to not be caught doing it and I know I would be heading for prison very likely if I did.
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So I'm assuming they're related. If he molested her why in the hell would she let her daughter around him?
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He confessed, according to the person on trial for his murder.

You think maybe, just maybe, she has some self interest in his confession? Is it *possible* she could be compelled by her conscience to maybe stretch the truth, a bit?
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He confessed. Fuck him.

He confessed, according to the person on trial for his murder.

You think maybe, just maybe, she has some self interest in his confession? Is it *possible* she could be compelled by her conscience to maybe stretch the truth, a bit?


Yep.

How many threads do we have in GD about scored women being conniving bitches?

Yet here we are, taking her at her word and celebrating her killing a dude.
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Fine.  Now, suspend the sentence.

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5 yrs probation.

Good shoot, good outcome
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If I'm going to get 3 years for properly protecting my family and society by disposing of something, I want to make absolutely sure the last thing the molester sees is my face grinning.  No sniping from a mile away just so I can elude the police.  No poisoning from a safe place.  

I would also demand a jury of my peers.
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You and I see that, but having investigated cases like these this is the norm.  You'll find out that sexual assault of minors runs through several generations.  Hugely common among indigenous people (US reservations or throughout Mexico and central America)





 
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I'm not so sure I'd be up to nullify this were I on a jury.  She planned it out, she went over on just the word of her daughter and the confession was only heard by the people killing him.  


Thing is, yeah.... I'd be very tempted to do the same thing if it were my kid, but I also understand that you have to not be caught doing it and I know I would be heading for prison very likely if I did.
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I'd make sure it was worth it by getting the confession on tape.
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This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.
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I don't condone what she did but, I understand.

3 years for premeditated murder? I'd say the judge has some common sense of his own.


This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.

She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.

This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.


It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.

I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.

If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.


Justifiable homixide and it is actually up to the jury to decide.

Jury nullification, not guilty.
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Assuming for argument's sake that he really did molest that woman's daughter...

For the guy on here who keeps barking about having the guy investigated & going through a trial, do you have any cottonpicking idea how that process would actually pan out? Barring physical evidence that the girl was molested - meaning she would have to have been molested recently, and in such a way as to leave physical marking (and that doesn't always happen - making a child perform oral sex, as I was forced to, doesn't leave a mark) - there would be insufficient findings for there to even BE a trial, and the guy would keep on molesting kids.

And if you still can defend this scenario, then you have no fucking idea how devastating this experience is. There is a reason that 20% of sexual abuse victims wind up committing suicide later in life, and why most of the rest wind up drug addicts and / or prostitutes. There are a few of us, including me, who avoid the drugs, but the emotional damage of having been used as someone's kleenex to wipe up their jizz never goes away. I cannot begin to describe the degradation, the humiliation, and the feeling that life singled you out for absolute, unmitigated horror. The self-hatred is still there. The fundamental disconnect between my body and me is still there. It happened the second I realized what was happening. Can you imagine going through life feeling like your body betrayed you, that it exists to humiliate you and nothing else? Or the feeling that not just your body, but your spirit must be inherently shitty for something like this to have happened to you? Can you imagine not being able to sleep properly for the rest of your life, as has happened with me, because going to bed is inextricably linked with being abused?

The pathetic part is, I've gone through years of therapy and am miles better than I used to be. But that's the point I'm making. This type of abuse creates a wound so deep that in my opinion, based on my own experience, it can never be fully healed. And it's just something you are forced to live with, day in, day out. And then you get to hear people defend pedophiles, or defend their legal right to a trial. Where the fuck was my legal right to NOT BE FORCED TO SUCK A COCK WHEN I WAS FOUR YEARS OLD? Life's a peach.
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Not guilty. Also, I'd do 3yrs for that, too.
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 3:39:21 PM EDT
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Not guilty and a big thank you if I was on the jury
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 4:13:32 PM EDT
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I will caution, this level of common sense sentencing is a rarity in the "Justice" system.
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I would gladly give up all my rights and spend three years in prison to end the life of the worthless scum stain that molested my child.


I will caution, this level of common sense sentencing is a rarity in the "Justice" system.


I would take my chances.



 
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 4:14:45 PM EDT
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What you typed here makes no fucking sense.
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I don't condone what she did but, I understand.



3 years for premeditated murder? I'd say the judge has some common sense of his own.




This. She should go to jail. Not saying I wouldn't do the same thing, but it was premeditated murder, no other way of interpreting it.



She drove with two boys to the man's house, once he confessed she stabbed him to death.



This wasn't exactly a "walked in on them and stabbed him," this was her going there planning to murder the man if he confessed.





It's good she saved the taxpayers money by killing him, but she absolutely broke the law and should go to jail.



I'd say 3 years is a reasonable term for what she did. I would prefer that the man get caught and be hung by the balls until his heart stops but can't have that either.



If it was me the guys head would have exploded from about 6-700 yards away and I'd be long gone before anyone realized who or what happened.






What you typed here makes no fucking sense.


I think he was touting the long-range terminal ballistics of the .338 Lapua round.



 
Link Posted: 6/4/2016 4:37:27 PM EDT
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Unfortunately I think u are right.
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"Honestly, Officer, I don't know what happened ... I was sitting here on the corner, cleaning my nails, and he came along, tripped and fell on my knife. Yes, sir. Nine times."
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That molester tripped and fell.

It was an accident.  Things like this happen all of the time.

Not guilty.


"Honestly, Officer, I don't know what happened ... I was sitting here on the corner, cleaning my nails, and he came along, tripped and fell on my knife. Yes, sir. Nine times."



"Hell if I know. One minute he's fine the next he's leaking all over the place."
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