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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:25:50 PM EDT
https://www.yahoo.com/news/worlds-largest-cargo-aircraft-destroyed-162948202.html
 Cargo plane Anotov AN-225 Mriya was destroyed, according to Ukraine's minister of foreign affairs. A defense reporter for the Kyiv Independent made similar comments on Sunday. US-funded media Radio Liberty posted a picture purporting to show the plane in flames. The world's largest cargo aircraft, the An-225 Mriya, has been destroyed during a Russian attack, according to Ukraine's minister of foreign affairs, Dmytro Kuleba. Kuleba tweeted on Sunday: "Russia may have destroyed our 'Mriya'. But they will never be able to destroy our dream of a strong, free and democratic European state." "We shall prevail!" he added. The plane was based at the Antonov Airport – also known as Hostomel Airport – according to Scottish publication The Herald. The paper reported Thursday that the airfield was struck by missiles prior to the attack. On the same day, Aviation24.be published a report saying a source had confirmed the aircraft was in Georgia. Insider was not able to independently verify either publication's claims. However, Illia Ponomarenko, a defense reporter for the Kyiv Independent, said on Sunday that the aircraft was ruined "amid a Russian attack." And the US-funded media Radio Liberty shared a satellite picture purporting to show the aircraft in flames. The aircraft, which first took off in 1988, was used to transport large amounts of humanitarian aid around the world, especially at short notice. It was also used to transfer the Soviet spacecraft. Russian flights have been banned from many European countries as part of the sanctions imposed by the EU and the US, as Insider reported.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:27:48 PM EDT
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This is utterly devastating if you're into planes. Nobody can even build another one anymore.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:28:57 PM EDT
[#2]
It was destroyed.
It wasn't destroyed. This changes every minute. Which is it? |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:29:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Has this actually been confirmed? Been hearing rumors.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has this actually been confirmed? Been hearing rumors. Their transportation minister said damaged. Not destroyed. And that they intend to repair it. Until I see photos of it destroyed I’m not buying into the statement that it was destroyed. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:32:22 PM EDT
[#5]
It was just a little bit destroyed.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:35:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is utterly devastating if you're into planes. Nobody can even build another one anymore. Why can’t they build another one? We are living in the most technologically advanced time in history. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:37:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why can’t they build another one? We are living in the most technologically advanced time in history. It's probably more like "no one would find it profitable to build another one" with one off tooling, the sheer size of it and material costs relative to sale price or profit margins. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:37:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was destroyed. It wasn't destroyed. This changes every minute. Which is it? It got better. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:39:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is utterly devastating if you're into planes. Nobody can even build another one anymore. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:41:38 PM EDT
[#10]
More discussion in yesterday's thread. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Antonov-225-Mriya/5-2533800/ |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:42:08 PM EDT
[#11]
They should have flown it out of there like they do before a hurricane.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:43:50 PM EDT
[#12]
If you don't want your giant cargo plane destroyed,
maybe you should move it out of country before the Russians decide to visit |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:46:21 PM EDT
[#13]
They should have flew that thing to Poland when this first started.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:56:58 PM EDT
[#14]
Mostly peacefully destroyed.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:58:41 PM EDT
[#15]
They had weeks to prep the plane and collect fuel.
WTF |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 2:08:58 PM EDT
[#16]
Little bit of minor, peaceful, fireyish, destruction adjacent.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 2:28:43 PM EDT
[#17]
Build it back better?
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Posted: 2/27/2022 2:32:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:22:39 PM EDT
[#19]
It would be a shame if it's severely damaged or destroyed but why in the world didn't they move it???
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:26:28 PM EDT
[#20]
So the cost to ship something that can only be flown using that airplane just went from (insert expensive price), to (whatever it costs to get a new super large plane into production, or make shit smaller).
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:31:44 PM EDT
[#21]
What is the insurance policy terms and payout?
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:32:25 PM EDT
[#22]
Air and Space magazine article on the AN-225 from last year:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/dream-big-180977305/ |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:34:59 PM EDT
[#23]
Everyone keeps saying it was destroyed but they’re not showing the pictures.
The only picture I’ve seen is a picture of a screen showing a burning hangar…or it could be a laundromat. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:37:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone keeps saying it was destroyed but they're not showing the pictures. The only picture I've seen is a picture of a screen showing a burning hangaror it could be a laundromat. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:37:26 PM EDT
[#25]
That’s a real loss to aviation.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:38:05 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why can’t they build another one? We are living in the most technologically advanced time in history. There's no way to make it pay. IIRC they weren't even making much on the existing one after having essentially inherited it for nothing from the USSR. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:39:54 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the cost to ship something that can only be flown using that airplane just went from (insert expensive price), to (whatever it costs to get a new super large plane into production, or make shit smaller). Eh.. Cost for the load just went from "holy shit HOW MUCH?" to "No." |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:40:14 PM EDT
[#28]
Down for maintenance, it's been flying a lot for the past few years. Big thing is what does the rest of the plant look like?
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:43:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: https://www.yahoo.com/news/worlds-largest-cargo-aircraft-destroyed-162948202.html https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/jtG2uf2XOWqvVRLnKjdEeg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTcyMDtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/7xHYCrQTdOQl7WqMfRElBw--~B/aD0yNzk0O3c9MzcyNTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/business_insider_articles_888/50a8b66a8833f16b42072dec1b542446 Cargo plane Anotov AN-225 Mriya was destroyed, according to Ukraine's minister of foreign affairs. A defense reporter for the Kyiv Independent made similar comments on Sunday. US-funded media Radio Liberty posted a picture purporting to show the plane in flames. The world's largest cargo aircraft, the An-225 Mriya, has been destroyed during a Russian attack, according to Ukraine's minister of foreign affairs, Dmytro Kuleba. Kuleba tweeted on Sunday: "Russia may have destroyed our 'Mriya'. But they will never be able to destroy our dream of a strong, free and democratic European state." "We shall prevail!" he added. The plane was based at the Antonov Airport also known as Hostomel Airport according to Scottish publication The Herald. The paper reported Thursday that the airfield was struck by missiles prior to the attack. On the same day, Aviation24.be published a report saying a source had confirmed the aircraft was in Georgia. Insider was not able to independently verify either publication's claims. However, Illia Ponomarenko, a defense reporter for the Kyiv Independent, said on Sunday that the aircraft was ruined "amid a Russian attack." And the US-funded media Radio Liberty shared a satellite picture purporting to show the aircraft in flames. The aircraft, which first took off in 1988, was used to transport large amounts of humanitarian aid around the world, especially at short notice. It was also used to transfer the Soviet spacecraft. Russian flights have been banned from many European countries as part of the sanctions imposed by the EU and the US, as Insider reported.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:46:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Was it not possible to move before all this?
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:49:00 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They should have flown it out of there like they do before a hurricane. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:50:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the insurance policy terms and payout? If it's not profitable to build another one (like everyone is saying) how profitable (or not) has it been to build/keep this one? But insurance probably doesn't pay war damage 
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:53:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:55:45 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it's not profitable to build another one (like everyone is saying) how profitable (or not) has it been to build/keep this one? But insurance probably doesn't pay war damage Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the insurance policy terms and payout? If it's not profitable to build another one (like everyone is saying) how profitable (or not) has it been to build/keep this one? But insurance probably doesn't pay war damage It was built for the Soviet space program, when prestige rather than profit was the motive. It never would have been built as a commercial venture. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:57:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Now they'll be no remake of "2012".
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Posted: 2/27/2022 3:59:12 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryNope on lotsa big and heavy stuff like locomotives/gas turbines. AN-124s were built at the same place. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:00:44 PM EDT
[#37]
I can’t even remember which airport I saw it at but the Russian Antonov that I saw was an incredible sight to see.
ETA: it was Minneapolis |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:14:44 PM EDT
[#38]
Destroyed is relative: to us, probably destroyed.
To Ukraine: she will fly again! |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:16:37 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It got better. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was destroyed. It wasn't destroyed. This changes every minute. Which is it? It got better.  Attached File
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:17:42 PM EDT
[#40]
It hauled in at least one of the Tesla Giga Presses from Italy to the Tesla factory in Austin.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:18:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the cost to ship something that can only be flown using that airplane just went from (insert expensive price), to (whatever it costs to get a new super large plane into production, or make shit smaller). After the Haitian earthquake in mid 20teens they flew through Fairbanks, I believe they had 6 , d8 cat dozers on it going to help. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:19:10 PM EDT
[#42]
I love aircraft, but I'm not getting the serious concern here. If it got blowed up, it got blowed up. It's not like they attacked the Smithsonian and destroyed the Spirit of St. Louis or the Wright Flyer.
A little bit of a shame, yes. As far as moving it before this conflict, I'll bet that's easier said than done, and that's assuming it wasn't in some condition of service or repair. I worked in aviation for a bit as a young man, and I can't imagine the logistics for service and flight operations even under ideal conditions for that behemoth. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:22:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:28:38 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love aircraft, but I'm not getting the serious concern here. If it got blowed up, it got blowed up. It's not like they attacked the Smithsonian and destroyed the Spirit of St. Louis or the Wright Flyer. A little bit of a shame, yes. As far as moving it before this conflict, I'll bet that's easier said than done, and that's assuming it wasn't in some condition of service or repair. I worked in aviation for a bit as a young man, and I can't imagine the logistics for service and flight operations even under ideal conditions for that behemoth. Except for the C5, there aren't too many aircraft with the capability of the -124/225. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:39:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Antonov has had a partially completed one for decades that they determined was not worth completing at a cost of $450M. If the original was in fact, completely destroyed, I'll be curious to see if they finish building it.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 4:45:03 PM EDT
[#46]
I saw a AN124 in Baghdad. Can't imagine how big the 225 is, err, was.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 5:31:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is utterly devastating if you're into planes. Nobody can even build another one anymore.
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Posted: 2/27/2022 5:33:09 PM EDT
[#48]
Haven’t even WE the us contracted those planes to move .mil shit in the past ?
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Posted: 2/27/2022 5:33:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven’t even WE the us contracted those planes to move .mil shit in the past ? Yes, we have. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 6:23:35 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven’t even WE the us contracted those planes to move .mil shit in the past ?  MAR 7, 2011 The Antonov An-225 touched down at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan, March 7. The largest and heaviest aircraft in the world, the one-of-a-kind An-225 is currently operated by Ukraine’s Antonov Airlines and contracted to carry large cargo and supplies around the world. |
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