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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:22:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Just don't post that on Facebook  |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:23:17 AM EDT
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Hell yes.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:25:42 AM EDT
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I would support it.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:27:53 AM EDT
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I would. Now where is that video of an SUV barreling through a roadblock?
Here it is http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=11e_1361693084&comments=1 |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:27:57 AM EDT
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Yes.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:29:04 AM EDT
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Not just for blocking the road. There are already protections in place if you run over people that threaten your well being and it's considered self defense. In a mob scene where your vehicle was surrounded and being damaged / pummeled it's reasonable and easy to articulate being in fear for your life or of grave bodily harm; and under those circumstances use the vehicle as a weapon and means of escape. Cheers! -JC The Range Rover guy in New York City did this when he was surrounded by scumbag motorcycle scum. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:29:12 AM EDT
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Get a heavy duty bumper to reduce the damage to your truck.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:32:45 AM EDT
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You just need the right hood ornament and the sea will part.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:36:56 AM EDT
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I couldn't believe that once the traffic flow started back up, the drivers didn't keep up their speed when the protesters came back again. What idiot is going to step in front of a car going freeway speeds?
That said, I'd vote for your law because once your car is stopped and surrounded your options become limited. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:37:05 AM EDT
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Why ever would people want to run peaceful protestors over?? http://america.pink/images/5/0/5/1/5/4/en/1-attack-reginald-denny.jpg  Funny how he is never mentioned when people talk about the riots and Rodney king. Reginald Denny and all of the property owners/insurers were the true victims of that time. Somehow it's ok for comedians to make jokes about the riots though. Nothing new for the "black community" to beatify a piece of shit that got what he had coming. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:40:22 AM EDT
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The Range Rover guy in New York City did this when he was surrounded by scumbag motorcycle scum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not just for blocking the road. There are already protections in place if you run over people that threaten your well being and it's considered self defense. In a mob scene where your vehicle was surrounded and being damaged / pummeled it's reasonable and easy to articulate being in fear for your life or of grave bodily harm; and under those circumstances use the vehicle as a weapon and means of escape. Cheers! -JC The Range Rover guy in New York City did this when he was surrounded by scumbag motorcycle scum. 19rds of 124gr +p would've made that tragedy a victory. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:41:17 AM EDT
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Not only should it be a right, it should be a duty.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:41:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we include those homeless guys who clean my windshield, then ask for money? |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:41:58 AM EDT
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? Yes. Yes I would support such a law. However, it needs to be carefully crafted (along the lines of castle doctrine). |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:43:04 AM EDT
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There is a reason I carry a large can of FOX 5.3 in my vehicle.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:44:22 AM EDT
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if they have masks on , definitely
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:48:37 AM EDT
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Would it cover me if I also put metal spikes on the front of my car? Or what about a minigun?
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:49:03 AM EDT
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Yah, and it would apply to walkers in ghetto areas not using crosswalks who take their fucking sweet ass time crossing the street.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:51:59 AM EDT
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I dont know why pedestrians have the right of way anymore. 100 years ago I understand but now its much easier for a person walking 5 mph to stop than a car going 25. Not to mention the ability to hear and see a car better from the pedestrian perspective. Crossing a road? Cross at your own risk Block the road and speed limit is 25 mph? Then you as a pedestrian would be expected to clear the road car hits you at 25 oh well Well, we used to teach our children to look both ways before crossing the road...Now we teach them to walk right into the path of cars while wearing headphones and staring into their phone, oblivious to the world. Darwin must be spinning in his grave... Would You Support a "Run The Dumb %&^$s Over" Law? NO NEW LAWS NEEDED. But, I'd have NO objection if a Judge were to sentence someone (found guilty) to one day of community service for it. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:54:36 AM EDT
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If I fear for my or my families life, it's pedal to the metal, 4x4 low GTFO of my way time. Protesters blocking the road and no possibility of personal injury to me or mine? Meh, no big deal. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:55:57 AM EDT
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I'd settle for a law charging the protesters with a felony if they are intentionally shutting down traffic.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:58:30 AM EDT
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? No. I would not support such a law. You don't like protestor? Go live someplace where protesting is banned. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:58:50 AM EDT
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If I fear for my or my families life, it's pedal to the metal, 4x4 low GTFO of my way time. Protesters blocking the road and no possibility of personal injury to me or mine? Meh, no big deal. This. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 11:59:04 AM EDT
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? Hell yes. I don't know what a mob of people blocking the freeway intend, so using my vehicle as a weapon should be justified. No different from using a gun on someone charging you. It's kinda like the Land Rover guy with those bikers. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:00:20 PM EDT
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19rds of 124gr +p would've made that tragedy a victory. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not just for blocking the road. There are already protections in place if you run over people that threaten your well being and it's considered self defense. In a mob scene where your vehicle was surrounded and being damaged / pummeled it's reasonable and easy to articulate being in fear for your life or of grave bodily harm; and under those circumstances use the vehicle as a weapon and means of escape. Cheers! -JC The Range Rover guy in New York City did this when he was surrounded by scumbag motorcycle scum. 19rds of 124gr +p would've made that tragedy a victory. I hadn't heard of that incident until now and I looked it up. Thanks. I must agree. Use the vehicle first and always be armed and ready as well. Glad he wasn't killed. Cheers! -JC |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:06:11 PM EDT
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Will support!
But, you can't give the reason for a legal run-over based on "they were damaging my vehicle". You could justify the run-over if the attack to your vehicle was considered a first step to "attempting to assault" or "assaulting the occupants". A legislator needs to present a bill that connects a crowd blocking a road or attacking a vehicle as a common precursor to assaulting the occupants. eta or align the bill with existing laws on "force" or 'disparity and use of force", etc. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:12:11 PM EDT
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Well, we used to teach our children to look both ways before crossing the road...Now we teach them to walk right into the path of cars while wearing headphones and staring into their phone, oblivious to the world. Darwin must be spinning in his grave... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont know why pedestrians have the right of way anymore. 100 years ago I understand but now its much easier for a person walking 5 mph to stop than a car going 25. Not to mention the ability to hear and see a car better from the pedestrian perspective. Crossing a road? Cross at your own risk Block the road and speed limit is 25 mph? Then you as a pedestrian would be expected to clear the road car hits you at 25 oh well Well, we used to teach our children to look both ways before crossing the road...Now we teach them to walk right into the path of cars while wearing headphones and staring into their phone, oblivious to the world. Darwin must be spinning in his grave... Where I live, them sauntering S L O W L Y across the street while sneering at you is more of the problem. ETA: If I am surrounded by mob and any attempt to gain entry into my vehicle, I am gassing it. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:13:17 PM EDT
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I wouldn't run protestors over just for blocking traffic. That's absurd. Now, a protest becoming a riot and people swarming your vehicle? I'd start feeling a little alarmed then. I typically carry a G19, but the last thing I want to do is start shooting people. It's just a bad situation all around if it comes to that. I drive a pick-up truck so I know it would get the job done if I needed it to. You wouldn't know said "peaceful" protest had just become a riot until they are giving you the Reginald Denny Breakfast Special to include dragging you out of your stopped vehicle with a side of brick to your skull. If you're lucky, your wife and kids will only get the Sausage Scramble and not have to join you in the rehab ward for brain trauma. Idiocracy at it's best...
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:13:28 PM EDT
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Good luck making it stick in court, jury nullification is your only hope. Either way you get my vote or my not-guilty vote. Run them over. So, I take it that "reading thread titles" and OPs is not your strong point then? |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:18:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL why do you hate capitalism? Where I live the kids leaving school have the "right of way" so the teenagers show how cool they are just walk out into the street. My side view mirror has scratches from the zippers on those stupid hoodies they like to wear. I can play chicken all day behind the wheel of my 3500 chevy. I hope they cr@pped their boxers and have to pull their pants all the way up. Clearly Darwin suggest that if I don't run them over, these stupid kids will find even more stupid people to mate with and breed super stupid children. I would be performing a public service...a hero of sorts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can we include those homeless guys who clean my windshield, then ask for money? LOL why do you hate capitalism? Where I live the kids leaving school have the "right of way" so the teenagers show how cool they are just walk out into the street. My side view mirror has scratches from the zippers on those stupid hoodies they like to wear. I can play chicken all day behind the wheel of my 3500 chevy. I hope they cr@pped their boxers and have to pull their pants all the way up. Clearly Darwin suggest that if I don't run them over, these stupid kids will find even more stupid people to mate with and breed super stupid children. I would be performing a public service...a hero of sorts. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:26:43 PM EDT
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Why ever would people want to run peaceful protestors over?? http://america.pink/images/5/0/5/1/5/4/en/1-attack-reginald-denny.jpg Protest all you want on the sidewalks or in front of the statehouse etc and I'm fine with it. Close down roadways or highways and prevent people from going to or from work etc? FOAD! I got stuck for a few hours waiting, stopped on the road, because the bowelmovement protesters closed down one of the bridges here last year, and I was on the way to a fucking funeral. And the police blocked US and let them. Sorry, but no fucks given for your cause at that point |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:28:51 PM EDT
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? Extra points to the lawmaker who lets the vehicle owner bill the person blocking the road for the damage to their car. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:31:18 PM EDT
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Hell yes. I don't know what a mob of people blocking the freeway intend, so using my vehicle as a weapon should be justified. No different from using a gun on someone charging you. It's kinda like the Land Rover guy with those bikers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? Hell yes. I don't know what a mob of people blocking the freeway intend, so using my vehicle as a weapon should be justified. No different from using a gun on someone charging you. It's kinda like the Land Rover guy with those bikers. Exactly. At that point such actions turn into what some would consider "unlawful imprisonment" |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:34:18 PM EDT
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This, don't you remember Reginald Denny? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There already is a law, it's called I feared for my life and had to escape. This, don't you remember Reginald Denny? Everyone is familiar with "Megan's Law." This would be "Reginald's Law." |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:42:36 PM EDT
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? Yes. Where's the nearest Rent A Bulldozer outlet? |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:52:33 PM EDT
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I dont know why pedestrians have the right of way anymore. 100 years ago I understand but now its much easier for a person walking 5 mph to stop than a car going 25. Not to mention the ability to hear and see a car better from the pedestrian perspective. Crossing a road? Cross at your own risk Block the road and speed limit is 25 mph? Then you as a pedestrian would be expected to clear the road car hits you at 25 oh well In my state, pedestrians only have the right of way in a crosswalk with the flow of traffic. Every year in certain parts of town, you'll hear news stories about someone getting clobbered crossing the street. They usually end with "the pedestrians were not in a crosswalk and the driver will not be charged." |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 12:54:10 PM EDT
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I dont know why pedestrians have the right of way anymore. 100 years ago I understand but now its much easier for a person walking 5 mph to stop than a car going 25. Not to mention the ability to hear and see a car better from the pedestrian perspective. Crossing a road? Cross at your own risk Block the road and speed limit is 25 mph? Then you as a pedestrian would be expected to clear the road car hits you at 25 oh well Because the person doing the thing with the most potential danger to others (driving a car) is required to exercise the most care. Same reason you can't drive on the sidewalk. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 1:09:05 PM EDT
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LOL why do you hate capitalism? Where I live the kids leaving school have the "right of way" so the teenagers show how cool they are just walk out into the street. My side view mirror has scratches from the zippers on those stupid hoodies they like to wear. I can play chicken all day behind the wheel of my 3500 chevy. I hope they cr@pped their boxers and have to pull their pants all the way up. Clearly Darwin suggest that if I don't run them over, these stupid kids will find even more stupid people to mate with and breed super stupid children. I would be performing a public service...a hero of sorts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can we include those homeless guys who clean my windshield, then ask for money? Where I live the kids leaving school have the "right of way" so the teenagers show how cool they are just walk out into the street. My side view mirror has scratches from the zippers on those stupid hoodies they like to wear. I can play chicken all day behind the wheel of my 3500 chevy. I hope they cr@pped their boxers and have to pull their pants all the way up. Clearly Darwin suggest that if I don't run them over, these stupid kids will find even more stupid people to mate with and breed super stupid children. I would be performing a public service...a hero of sorts. +1 to the rest though. For some people, they do that shit on purpose as though it's a badge of 'thug life' or something. I've posted this before: Quoted:
I'd heard about that, and had it happen just a couple weeks ago. I was making a left to go east and as soon as I cleared the 2 larger vehicles waiting in the crossstreet's left turn lane, there was a dude just meandering across the street. Meandering... slowly. He was in my lane slightly past the halfway point coming from my right going to my left. There was also a woman and three kids about 2-3 feet into my lane headed the same direction. They slowed, while he kept meandering and looking down the street to check the opposing lane. This is about 30-40 feet from the intersection crosswalk. I was going to hit him, hit them, thread the needle between them, or go all the way around in the opposing traffic. Since there was no opposing traffic, I went around. If the woman and kids had been stupid enough to keep walking, and there had been opposing traffic, I'm 80-90% sure I would have hit at least one of them. Even still, as I went completely around the dude, he stilled was walking into my path of travel. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 1:10:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my state, pedestrians only have the right of way in a crosswalk with the flow of traffic. Every year in certain parts of town, you'll hear news stories about someone getting clobbered crossing the street. They usually end with "the pedestrians were not in a crosswalk and the driver will not be charged." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont know why pedestrians have the right of way anymore. 100 years ago I understand but now its much easier for a person walking 5 mph to stop than a car going 25. Not to mention the ability to hear and see a car better from the pedestrian perspective. Crossing a road? Cross at your own risk Block the road and speed limit is 25 mph? Then you as a pedestrian would be expected to clear the road car hits you at 25 oh well In my state, pedestrians only have the right of way in a crosswalk with the flow of traffic. Every year in certain parts of town, you'll hear news stories about someone getting clobbered crossing the street. They usually end with "the pedestrians were not in a crosswalk and the driver will not be charged." This. You splatter a pedestrian who's in the roadway outside of a crosswalk and without right of way, and you stop to render aid, you're going to be fine. Hit someone with right of way, and you're screwed. Now, if you hit someone under any circumstances, including you having the right of way, but you then flee the scene, a shitstorm brews up. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 1:17:23 PM EDT
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If I fear for my or my families life, it's pedal to the metal, 4x4 low GTFO of my way time. Protesters blocking the road and no possibility of personal injury to me or mine? Meh, no big deal. TPFNI |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 1:43:40 PM EDT
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This. You splatter a pedestrian who's in the roadway outside of a crosswalk and without right of way, and you stop to render aid, you're going to be fine. Hit someone with right of way, and you're screwed. Now, if you hit someone under any circumstances, including you having the right of way, but you then flee the scene, a shitstorm brews up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I dont know why pedestrians have the right of way anymore. 100 years ago I understand but now its much easier for a person walking 5 mph to stop than a car going 25. Not to mention the ability to hear and see a car better from the pedestrian perspective. Crossing a road? Cross at your own risk Block the road and speed limit is 25 mph? Then you as a pedestrian would be expected to clear the road car hits you at 25 oh well In my state, pedestrians only have the right of way in a crosswalk with the flow of traffic. Every year in certain parts of town, you'll hear news stories about someone getting clobbered crossing the street. They usually end with "the pedestrians were not in a crosswalk and the driver will not be charged." This. You splatter a pedestrian who's in the roadway outside of a crosswalk and without right of way, and you stop to render aid, you're going to be fine. Hit someone with right of way, and you're screwed. Now, if you hit someone under any circumstances, including you having the right of way, but you then flee the scene, a shitstorm brews up. Didn't some guy get dragged out of his car and beaten to death or close to it a little ways back when he did exactly that when some kid ran out in front of his car, in tune wrong neighborhood? |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:01:52 PM EDT
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I couldn't believe that once the traffic flow started back up, the drivers didn't keep up their speed when the protesters came back again. What idiot is going to step in front of a car going freeway speeds? That said, I'd vote for your law because once your car is stopped and surrounded your options become limited. People who are on an objective truly think they will win against a vehicle. College move in...a dumb whore RA decided to deliberately shuffle herself in front of me swerving around their little road block. She did everything she could to be in my way. I told her I wasn't there for move in and she began trying to ask where I was going then. Window up, middle finger up, lay on horn, floor it. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:45:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:48:01 PM EDT
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I wouldn't run protestors over just for blocking traffic. That's absurd. . Protestors blocking traffic have taken every motorist with whom they interfere prisoner. IMO, that's not trivial. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:50:05 PM EDT
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No. I would not support such a law. You don't like protestor? Go live someplace where protesting is banned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? No. I would not support such a law. You don't like protestor? Go live someplace where protesting is banned. Since when is seizing travelers considered legitimate protest? |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:51:04 PM EDT
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The act of intentionally blocking traffic for anything besides legitimate emergencies should forfeit legal protections of the person doing so.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:51:43 PM EDT
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Protesters blocking roads, would you support a law that gave legal drivers immunity for running them over if they didn't allow traffic through or attempted to damage your vehicle? I don't even think regular pedestrians should have the right of way, so yeah, I'd be fine with this. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:53:17 PM EDT
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At 18, my friends and I went to Montreal. If the traffic signal was green, they gunned it if a pedestrian was crossing. Seemed funny at the time that we had to run, but after the 3rd one, We decided that drivers up there would rather hit you instead of slow down. I had exactly the same experience in Montreal, and despite hating French-Canadians in general, I think they're spot-on with that concept. I'm in a 5000lb SUV. You're on your feet. Isaac Newton says, "get out of my fucking way." |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:59:11 PM EDT
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I dont know why pedestrians have the right of way anymore. 100 years ago I understand but now its much easier for a person walking 5 mph to stop than a car going 25. Not to mention the ability to hear and see a car better from the pedestrian perspective. Crossing a road? Cross at your own risk Block the road and speed limit is 25 mph? Then you as a pedestrian would be expected to clear the road car hits you at 25 oh well Peds have right of way at designated spots not wherever they want, that's jaywalking and fair game! 
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Posted: 3/12/2016 3:01:31 PM EDT
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Yes. I would also include people that cross on the "Don't Walk" or red hand sign.
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