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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:42:23 PM EST
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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:42:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The self defense shootings using NFA stuff that I'm aware of were Harry Becwith's multiple incidents down here in Micanopy. S&W 76, AR15, shotgun all came into play. http://www.afn.org/~guns/ayoob.html Harry was quite the swordsman as well. 
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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:44:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Answer: it depends on the context. Traveling to and from during my normal day to day. Probably not. I’d be carrying a pistol concealed and while machine pistols are a thing, they’re impractically difficult to control. Traveling to and from after a total breakdown of society, where no cops and roving bands of rioters are normal? Yes I would. Either a 10.5-12.5 M4 type or an MP5. Know how I can tell that you haven't had much trigger time on a converted G17 or G18 or similar? |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:50:31 PM EST
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I thought about working as a trucker in Iraq when drivers were making ~$350,000.
My plan was to get a black market Glock 17 and convert it to 18. Better to die fighting.   |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:51:20 PM EST
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I think I'd go with the G18 with a Flux brace/stock and an extended magazine.
I think this is a G17 but you get the idea. 
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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:53:40 PM EST
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If we had us a REAL Apocalypse instead of the Tardpocalypse...fucks to the yeah.
Stoner 63A LMG with a titanium receiver, stainless DLC'd Gas Tube, modern superpolymers on the furniture and ammo boxes, DLC coated everything else, Stellite lined barrel, the fuckin' works. It's the END...but it's in the 21st Century....we can make damn near anything assuming "we" have the monies!!! Real Apocalypse looks and sounds like this:   Sturgill Simpson - Fastest Horse In Town (Official Audio) ...and I'm packing the 21st Century Advanced Retro version of this with a trunck load of ammo boxes:  Since all we got was this:  I guess I'll just take along a Daisy Red Ryder and some exploding Archie McFee rubber chickens full of pepper spray. Should be all I need. |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:53:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also yes. Though admittedly the m240 isn’t my daily carry. I have been known to toss it in the truck from time to time. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/29456/AE6D6583-3264-476C-957A-73D91ADEA352_jpe-1600386.JPG I could think of a few areas that would be a very popular choice 
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Posted: 9/20/2020 5:57:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you think it would even come up? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you ever have to use it the deceased scumbag's lawyer will have a field day with the 87 bullet holes in his client. But other than that I don't really see a problem with it assuming you've made sure everything is legal in your area. Pretty smart to carry the most effective weapon in your arsenal if your goal is to preserve your life. Do you think it would even come up? As already mentioned, it has come up before. It took a long time and a lot of money for Fadden to be cleared of charges. F*** you and your automatic rifle... |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:03:28 PM EST
[#9]
I did everyday I was overseas.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:04:22 PM EST
[#10]
glock 18 m93r
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:07:38 PM EST
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:08:44 PM EST
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I have absolutely no moral or ethical problem with this. Unfortunately I feel our crooked justice system would come down much harder on someone who did in the current political climate, and that combined with the financial burden of potentially not getting the NFA item back keeps me from doing so currently. If it was socially acceptable (as it should be), then yeah I’d probably carry something like a MP5K-PDW, MP7, or Rattler...
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:18:38 PM EST
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Isn't this the entire reason the P90 exists?
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:25:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Also no. If you're a SOT and want to carry either and intend to keep them on semi, do whatever you want (it will probably look bad in court, but you decide fam), but I would not want (to carry anyway) anything that uncontrollable otherwise. The only machine guns I would consider carrying are those with slower rates of fire that are generally accepted as being controllable. Even my backpack gun, an EVO, I wouldn't want to fire that on auto in public, surrounded by liabilities. I was playing with an auto one in virtual reality the other day and found out the hard way it spits 1,150 rounds a minute, and my mag was dumped in like one second... |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:33:16 PM EST
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I voted yes but definitely not any of those.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:35:14 PM EST
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Quoted: say you're an SOT or privately owned a glock 18 or m93r. Would you carry it as a self defense gun? Hell yeah! Freedom |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:36:30 PM EST
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52 no votes, I didn't know GD had that many gay members.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:40:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ummm... yes. That like asking if you were hung like Ron Jeremy, would you show it to everyone every chance you got? The answer is always yes. LOFL |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:40:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oh thank goodness. An opinion formed by playing video games. Thankfully that's super helpful so I'd like to change my original answer :-/  You do whatever you want, but I do hope when you break out the mac-10 on a panhandler, I'm nowhere in range. |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:42:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would not want to use a gun in the middle of a city that shoots 1,150 rounds a minute against a car jacker. You do whatever you want, but I do hope when you break out the mac-10 on a panhandler, I'm nowhere in range. Honestly, getting two and three round bursts out of an automatic Glock isn’t that difficult. And getting a magazine all on an IPSC at 10yd is doable with practice. It’s not just a bullet hose. |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:46:28 PM EST
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wouldn't make much difference since all the gang bangers, antifa, the BLM Tank Lady would all have machine guns too
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:50:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As already mentioned, it has come up before. It took a long time and a lot of money for Fadden to be cleared of charges. F*** you and your automatic rifle... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you ever have to use it the deceased scumbag's lawyer will have a field day with the 87 bullet holes in his client. But other than that I don't really see a problem with it assuming you've made sure everything is legal in your area. Pretty smart to carry the most effective weapon in your arsenal if your goal is to preserve your life. Do you think it would even come up? As already mentioned, it has come up before. It took a long time and a lot of money for Fadden to be cleared of charges. F*** you and your automatic rifle... TOS, and SteyrAUG thread? IBTL |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 6:54:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, getting two and three round bursts out of an automatic Glock isn't that difficult. And getting a magazine all on an IPSC at 10yd is doable with practice. It's not just a bullet hose. Even if I got good, I wouldn't feel comfortable using something like that, unless I was in the backwoods or middle of nowhere. This is me. He asked if I would and I would not. I'm not telling anybody else what to do and quite frankly, you could walk by me with an RPG strapped to your back and I wouldn't care. |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:17:03 PM EST
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I am an SOT. I don’t carry my full autos, and don’t know of many situations where I’d prefer to use them. Accurate semi fire is where it’s at.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:18:52 PM EST
[#25]
P90. Don't @ me
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:20:19 PM EST
[#26]
Is OP supplying the ammunition. Its easy to expend losts of ammo when you have a quartermaster backing you up with supplies.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:20:23 PM EST
[#27]
It depends on the circumstances. As things are now, no. Full-tilt TEOTWAWKI, yes.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:36:02 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if I got good, I wouldn't feel comfortable using something like that, unless I was in the backwoods or middle of nowhere. This is me. He asked if I would and I would not. I'm not telling anybody else what to do and quite frankly, you could walk by me with an RPG strapped to your back and I wouldn't care. Your terms. Are acceptable.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:40:56 PM EST
[#29]
My truck gun would be a para 249 saw my daily carry would still continue to be a Glock 19
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:50:09 PM EST
[#30]
MP5 for me please.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:56:42 PM EST
[#31]
UZI is my weight limit for every day carry.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 7:59:09 PM EST
[#32]
Yeah, I shot a USPSA match with an 18 and happy sticks. It’s easy to control with some practice and sends a bunch of lead quickly. Fist side groups in the A zone, bitches
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:04:24 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Harry was quite the swordsman as well. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/766/Harry-1410968.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The self defense shootings using NFA stuff that I'm aware of were Harry Becwith's multiple incidents down here in Micanopy. S&W 76, AR15, shotgun all came into play. http://www.afn.org/~guns/ayoob.html Harry was quite the swordsman as well. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/766/Harry-1410968.jpg |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:05:21 PM EST
[#34]
No. Losing it to the evidence locker would suck.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:09:18 PM EST
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:11:19 PM EST
[#36]
I'd carry an MG42, MG3, or a PKM. I'm not picky.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:12:24 PM EST
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For everyday CC? Probably not. 10 rounds would go too quick and I'd need to carry 5-10 spare mags on my person.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:12:47 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Losing it to the evidence locker would suck. Say it's easy to replace. |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:17:18 PM EST
[#39]
Carried a g18 as an edc for a few years.
Current truck gun is either an m16 or an mp5 with a trigger pack in it..... So the answer is yes |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:28:56 PM EST
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:35:07 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd carry the best tool for the particular job With that being said, I hope Trump's new SCOTUS pick tips the court enough to hear a NFA case and strike down the NFA/Hughes.  That won't ever happen.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:38:52 PM EST
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:40:31 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryThat's a bingo! |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:41:20 PM EST
[#44]
The question isn't 'would I carry a machine gun?'. The question is can I carry the amount of ammo necessary!
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:43:59 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was also the HK employee (Gary Fadden) with the Ruger AC-556 in 1984. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The self defense shootings using NFA stuff that I'm aware of were Harry Becwith's multiple incidents down here in Micanopy. It just occurred to me; wtf did he have a Ruger and not an HK that day? |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:44:26 PM EST
[#46]
Carried one for 28 months, worked for me.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:47:42 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I'd go with the G18 with a Flux brace/stock and an extended magazine. I think this is a G17 but you get the idea. https://smhttp-ssl-44367.nexcesscdn.net/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/6b291df8afd04bab339803e1936b8708/f/l/flux_brace_patent_pending_cart.jpg Why settle for a brace? MGs can't be SBRs if I'm not mistaken. Plus, I've seen a guy get popped in the face deploying one of those spring-loaded braces. Select-fire USW would be tits  The B&T TP9 or maybe even the smaller 380 version would be the next rung up as far as size/capability |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:52:27 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Also no. If you're a SOT and want to carry either and intend to keep them on semi, do whatever you want (it will probably look bad in court, but you decide fam), but I would not want (to carry anyway) anything that uncontrollable otherwise. The only machine guns I would consider carrying are those with slower rates of fire that are generally accepted as being controllable. Even my backpack gun, an EVO, I wouldn't want to fire that on auto in public, surrounded by liabilities. I was playing with an auto one in virtual reality the other day and found out the hard way it spits 1,150 rounds a minute, and my mag was dumped in like one second... Quote HistoryQuoted: glock 18 m93r Yeah, Evo's are a hoot, but really a tad impractically fast. I got to shoot quite a bit on one that had an aftermarket drop-in sear arrangement (which was actually a very well done product). The mass of the bolt relative to the plastic gun along with the ROF? It was like a titanium jackhammer; cool, but somewhat less useful than it could have been.
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:54:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oh thank goodness. An opinion formed by playing video games. Thankfully that's super helpful so I'd like to change my original answer :-/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No. Also no. If you're a SOT and want to carry either and intend to keep them on semi, do whatever you want (it will probably look bad in court, but you decide fam), but I would not want (to carry anyway) anything that uncontrollable otherwise. The only machine guns I would consider carrying are those with slower rates of fire that are generally accepted as being controllable. Even my backpack gun, an EVO, I wouldn't want to fire that on auto in public, surrounded by liabilities. I was playing with an auto one in virtual reality the other day and found out the hard way it spits 1,150 rounds a minute, and my mag was dumped in like one second... The guns are legit fast; I think mine was slower than that, more like 850-900rpm. 1000+ is MAC territory and just stupid. The ideal is 500-700, depending on personal preference (I actually don't like MP40's because they are entirely too slow) |
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Posted: 9/20/2020 8:56:25 PM EST
[#50]
I said no. Now if I lived in chicago, or Afghanistan, or almost a literal warzone then yes, but I live in a very small town and hardly go anywhere
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