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Posted: 2/13/2018 1:20:35 AM EDT
Seems like up until 2006-2009 time frame that if you wanted at new hunting rifle in the sub-$400 range you were buying either a Winchester 94 or a Marlin 336.

Now since then we've seen the rise of then inexpensive bolt action Rifles like the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Remington 710/ 770---now discontinued thank God, and the Remington 783.

My grandfather's local shop back in PA always seemed to have a used Marlin 336 or two in stock at all times. Now it's not the case anymore. Also a large PA deer hunting group I'm a member of on Facebook seems to have a lot of guys using the newer inexpensive bolt guns than lever guns or even the PA favorite the Remington 760/7600

Could it be said that the .30-30's popularity is starting to wain?
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:23:13 AM EDT
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Love my Marlin 336...Also have a Ruger American .308, just depends on my mood which one I take to the woods with me.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:24:50 AM EDT
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Seems like up until 2006-2009 time frame that if you wanted at new hunting rifle in the sub-$400 range you were buying either a Winchester 94 or a Marlin 336.

Now since then we've seen the rise of then inexpensive bolt action Rifles like the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Remington 710/ 770---now discontinued thank God, and the Remington 783.

My grandfather's local shop back in PA always seemed to have a used Marlin 336 or two in stock at all times. Now it's not the case anymore. Also a large PA deer hunting group I'm a member of on Facebook seems to have a lot of guys using the newer inexpensive bolt guns than lever guns or even the PA favorite the Remington 760/7600

Could it be said that the .30-30's popularity is starting to wain?
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I think in PA, a lot of it has to do with Point Restrictions on Bucks and the fact that most lever actions don't take scopes easily without being offset. I know that isn't the case with all of them, but a lot of them.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:42:42 AM EDT
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This must mean it's .30-30 picture time.  

Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:48:34 AM EDT
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Really that's one of the most common in to the shop. Lots of Win and Marlins, hell even some Rossi's..
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:50:01 AM EDT
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I’d say it’s more a matter of Winchester being an expensive Japanese Gun now, and Remington ruining Marlin. Henry makes a lot of models, but all I ever see are the 22s.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:51:53 AM EDT
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This must mean it's .30-30 picture time.  

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Yup.

Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:52:17 AM EDT
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Old ones are appreciating in value, new ones generally aren’t very good, and those budget bolt guns you talk about offer better bang for buck for the people that are looking for tool for a job.

Most standard short action rifle cartridges outperform .30-30, and you get a rifle that’s easy to mount a scope to.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:52:54 AM EDT
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AH YA!



Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:55:27 AM EDT
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Here in my part of the country, they are still the most prevalent gun you see during deer season, I have not seen an AR in the field for the last couple of years, during elk season I see bolt guns, but during deer season it seems as if almost everybody has a lever action with them.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 1:58:01 AM EDT
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Never was all that interested in them.

No real interesting history (family stories excluded), and there are better guns for hunting today.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 2:00:35 AM EDT
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Never was all that interested in them.

No real interesting history (family stories excluded), and there are better guns for hunting today.
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This
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 2:14:00 AM EDT
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I think in PA, a lot of it has to do with Point Restrictions on Bucks and the fact that most lever actions don't take scopes easily without being offset. I know that isn't the case with all of them, but a lot of them.
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+1 in this state as well.

Without a scope to absolutely identify each little point on each side, a rifle is damned near useless with the new rules.

And while Marlins can accept scopes, a bunch of us middle-aged guys who bought them up aren't selling them.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 2:17:36 AM EDT
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I have an early 60's Win 94 30-30, but I prefer hunting with my 2 year old Ruger American Walmart clearance bolt .308.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 2:21:24 AM EDT
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30-30 is more popular than 35rem  thing is I never seen a deer go very far hit with 35rem  within 100 yards

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Link Posted: 2/13/2018 2:35:44 AM EDT
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There's still a bunch of lever 30-30s out there.
I bought a 1965 Win '94 30-30 in 2016 for around $400.

It would have been more but a prior owner somehow wore all the finish
off the receiver without damaging the barrel, bolt, and other parts.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 2:52:21 AM EDT
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I don't know anyone who's purchased a NEW 30-30 in this century.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 3:07:32 AM EDT
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In all my years as a guide I have only seen on 30-30 and the guy wanted to kill a turkey with it.

I love 30-30’s good brush guns, but most want.300 Win Mags.m

My 30-30 was bought new in 1978 by my FIL, I killed a few hogs with it.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 4:30:41 AM EDT
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I don't know anyone who's purchased a NEW 30-30 in this century.
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thinking about it...
and yur right - I don't anybody who has bought a new one either
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 4:33:12 AM EDT
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I traded for 80's model 94 30-30 last summer and actually bought a new lever 30-30 right before Christmas a couple of months ago.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 4:34:24 AM EDT
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with the advent of cheapass bolt actions like the ruger american while the leverguns stay around the same price or go up while the quality of some(marlin) goes down...i can see it becoming less popular.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 4:43:20 AM EDT
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In all my years as a guide I have only seen on 30-30 and the guy wanted to kill a turkey with it.

I love 30-30’s good brush guns, but most want.300 Win Mags.m

My 30-30 was bought new in 1978 by my FIL, I killed a few hogs with it.
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Because Texans think they need a 300 win mag to kill a deer at 100 yards LOL
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 4:50:12 AM EDT
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I don't know anyone who's purchased a NEW 30-30 in this century.
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Heh. My girlfriend's father bought one of the Mossberg .30-30s (I think the 464?) a handful of years ago. Since 2010, even. He seems to like it pretty well.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 5:10:25 AM EDT
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Considering most of the deer killed across the country are probably killed within 150 yards, the 30/30 would be perfectly adequate for most hunters. The rifles and ammo are cheap, cup and core bullets at moderate velocities drop deer like a hammer.

I do laugh at all the assclowns who think they need a 7 Mag or 300 Win Mag for deer though. Especially in area where their shots will rarely exceed a hundred yards.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 5:19:38 AM EDT
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Honestly it's hard to say whether the 30-30 popularity is waning or it's just there are so many more choices out there.   Especially with so many choosing to go the AR-15/10 route to hunt with and all the calibers being offering in that frame.   More hunters, more choices.

The Hornady LeveRevolution ammo has stretched the 30-30 legs a little bit.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 7:58:33 AM EDT
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Plenty of pre-Remington Marlin 336's in pawnshops. Everyone should own one.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 8:03:31 AM EDT
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I’d say it’s more a matter of Winchester being an expensive Japanese Gun now, and Remington ruining Marlin. Henry makes a lot of models, but all I ever see are the 22s.
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This is very true. My FIL gave me a Winchester 94 he bought in 1974 that cost him $65. They are no longer made in the US and cost 8x as much.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 8:04:16 AM EDT
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Not sure about prior, but even as late as the late 80s, $159 would get you your choice brand new.  Most kids I knew had one as a first centerfire rifle.

They do not seem near as popular or affordable now.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 8:06:32 AM EDT
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I'd say with all the variety the AR platform brings, the 30-30 is less popular, but I don't see it going away.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 8:21:20 AM EDT
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...much like I would say the carrier pigeon is not as popular as it once was.

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 8:43:15 AM EDT
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Never was all that interested in them.

No real interesting history (family stories excluded), and there are better guns for hunting today.
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Pretty much this. When 7.62x39 and others give similar performance in a much more useful package, the days of the .30-30 are numbered. Same thing with lever actions.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 8:46:30 AM EDT
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A few guys at my hunting club use .35 rem only one shoots 30-30.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:08:40 AM EDT
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Old ones are appreciating in value, new ones generally aren’t very good, and those budget bolt guns you talk about offer better bang for buck for the people that are looking for tool for a job.

Most standard short action rifle cartridges outperform .30-30, and you get a rifle that’s easy to mount a scope to.
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 I built a PSA AR in 7.62x39 for around $400.00. As much punch as a 30-30 in SA with box mags. Its hard to justify buying a shitty made lever when you can do that as there are no caliber or mag restrictions in MS.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:39:59 AM EDT
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Got mine.  Pre Remington Marlin 336 with scout scope.
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Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:44:25 AM EDT
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They get a lot of hate for some reason.

They are one of the best deer rifles you can buy though if you are shooting under 200 yards.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:47:29 AM EDT
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Considering most of the deer killed across the country are probably killed within 150 yards, the 30/30 would be perfectly adequate for most hunters. The rifles and ammo are cheap, cup and core bullets at moderate velocities drop deer like a hammer.

I do laugh at all the assclowns who think they need a 7 Mag or 300 Win Mag for deer though. Especially in area where their shots will rarely exceed a hundred yards.
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My cousin shoots a 300 Win Mag, he's never shot a deer over 100 yards.

Most of the time he practically blows the shoulder near the exit wound right to pieces, it's entirely too much gun for hunting around here. I've got to shoot one a few times, we were hitting steel at 300 yards without a problem, cool guns, but definitely overkill.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:51:16 AM EDT
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Henry’s .308 is the future of lever guns in every way.  The action is insanely smooth. Quality is awesome. And .308 cased ammo is all the rage.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:53:48 AM EDT
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I am unpopular. One is missing.  It is in my truck.

Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:54:18 AM EDT
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I think your observation is pretty valid OP.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:54:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:55:59 AM EDT
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Henry’s .308 is the future of lever guns in every way.  The action is insanely smooth. Quality is awesome. And .308 cased ammo is all the rage.
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A lever gun without a mag tube just seems strange, but they do look pretty cool.

I would like to shoot one in .223 sometime.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 9:57:39 AM EDT
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They are an abomination.  I see a lot of them for sale cheap because people are embarrassed to be seen in public with them.....like fucking a fat chick.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:01:58 AM EDT
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I found a nice looking older 336 the other day to replace one that was stolen. I may never shoot it but it felt funny not owning one for the first time in 50 years.
I hunt with bolt guns   Gotta have a nice scope on a hunting rifle also.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:06:12 AM EDT
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Seems like up until 2006-2009 time frame that if you wanted at new hunting rifle in the sub-$400 range you were buying either a Winchester 94 or a Marlin 336.

Now since then we've seen the rise of then inexpensive bolt action Rifles like the Savage Axis, Ruger American, Remington 710/ 770---now discontinued thank God, and the Remington 783.

My grandfather's local shop back in PA always seemed to have a used Marlin 336 or two in stock at all times. Now it's not the case anymore. Also a large PA deer hunting group I'm a member of on Facebook seems to have a lot of guys using the newer inexpensive bolt guns than lever guns or even the PA favorite the Remington 760/7600

Could it be said that the .30-30's popularity is starting to wain?
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The use of a wain...

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...is waning.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:08:18 AM EDT
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I really have no interest in lever guns. Iowa sucks and we can (just recently) use only straight-walled rifle cartridges for deer.
I usually use a .50 cal for deer anyway. Mine looks just like this, although this isn't my pic.:
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:09:44 AM EDT
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with the advent of cheapass bolt actions like the ruger american while the leverguns stay around the same price or go up while the quality of some(marlin) goes down...i can see it becoming less popular.
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That's what I'm seeing, essentially the quintessential deer gun isnnow becoming a Savage Axis or Ruger American
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:11:44 AM EDT
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They are an abomination.  I see a lot of them for sale cheap because people are embarrassed to be seen in public with them.....like fucking a fat chick.
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What’s wrong with fucking fat chicks?
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:13:35 AM EDT
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I really have no interest in lever guns. Iowa sucks and we can (just recently) use only straight-walled rifle cartridges for deer.
I usually use a .50 cal for deer anyway. Mine looks just like this, although this isn't my pic.:
https://i.imgur.com/mrC5GFa.jpg
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CVA Frontier Carbine, if I'm not mistaken.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:14:49 AM EDT
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thinking about it...
and yur right - I don't anybody who has bought a new one either
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I don't know anyone who's purchased a NEW 30-30 in this century.
thinking about it...
and yur right - I don't anybody who has bought a new one either
This is the pinnacle of the breed. A mid 2000s JM XLR in .30-30.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:18:10 AM EDT
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I had a Marlin 336 some years ago, really liked it.
I used it for dear hunting until I sold it for a Remington 700.
Link Posted: 2/13/2018 10:19:19 AM EDT
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My cousin shoots a 300 Win Mag, he's never shot a deer over 100 yards.

Most of the time he practically blows the shoulder near the exit wound right to pieces, it's entirely too much gun for hunting around here. I've got to shoot one a few times, we were hitting steel at 300 yards without a problem, cool guns, but definitely overkill.
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Considering most of the deer killed across the country are probably killed within 150 yards, the 30/30 would be perfectly adequate for most hunters. The rifles and ammo are cheap, cup and core bullets at moderate velocities drop deer like a hammer.

I do laugh at all the assclowns who think they need a 7 Mag or 300 Win Mag for deer though. Especially in area where their shots will rarely exceed a hundred yards.
My cousin shoots a 300 Win Mag, he's never shot a deer over 100 yards.

Most of the time he practically blows the shoulder near the exit wound right to pieces, it's entirely too much gun for hunting around here. I've got to shoot one a few times, we were hitting steel at 300 yards without a problem, cool guns, but definitely overkill.
What is overkill?
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