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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:15:22 PM EDT
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Check this out! Blanks for Can Launhers M200 spec blanks Gilf ball launching blanks (Stronger) Even Stronger golf ball blanks Full power M195 “grenade” launching blanks http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/Golf-Ball-Can-launching-Inert-Grenade-Launching_c_15.html If you were launching solid objects (balls, ice/cement/chalk filled cans, etc...) I wonder how powerful of a blank the F5 upper can fire without the barrel exploding.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:26:49 PM EDT
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Mighty nice specimen you got there... definitely not too beaucoup. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/132797/5E04B978-1897-4DFD-9584-29C5DB101A6C-605310.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Oh FFS - you guys are so focused on length!!! This is the “normal” one from the F5 website (“short”?): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/D7E13937-A20C-4A1F-8B4C-6997F97827DE-605284.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/98472F3B-589A-42C7-9446-C5B0000B997F-605285.JPG 9.25” https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/132797/5E04B978-1897-4DFD-9584-29C5DB101A6C-605310.JPG 
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:16:27 PM EDT
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Just the diameter so far. No one has measured the LENGTH of the tubes, both long and short Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Someone already measured their tube and posted in this thread |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:34:31 PM EDT
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Mighty nice specimen you got there... definitely not too beaucoup. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/132797/5E04B978-1897-4DFD-9584-29C5DB101A6C-605310.JPG |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:42:46 PM EDT
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Anyone have F5's phone number?
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:55:45 PM EDT
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I will PayPal a donation of $10 to the first person who gets their F5 can cannon engraved with "ALABAMA BLACKSNAKE" on the side, and uploads a picture. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mighty nice specimen you got there... definitely not too beaucoup. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/132797/5E04B978-1897-4DFD-9584-29C5DB101A6C-605310.JPG |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 6:28:09 PM EDT
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Anyone have F5's phone number? |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 6:53:06 PM EDT
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Ordered the long one 9.25” is not long enough this is the internet anything under 10” is weak. Lol
Forgot to order blanks. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 9:07:43 PM EDT
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Oh FFS - you guys are so focused on length!!! This is the “normal” one from the F5 website (“short”?): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/D7E13937-A20C-4A1F-8B4C-6997F97827DE-605284.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/98472F3B-589A-42C7-9446-C5B0000B997F-605285.JPG 9.25” Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Just the diameter so far. No one has measured the LENGTH of the tubes, both long and short https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/D7E13937-A20C-4A1F-8B4C-6997F97827DE-605284.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/98472F3B-589A-42C7-9446-C5B0000B997F-605285.JPG 9.25” 
How far from the muzzle of the launch tube down to the plugged end of the 5.56 barrel? |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 9:09:48 PM EDT
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Ordered a bunch of those a couple days ago. Will be paying attention to their site statement about not using in can cannon. Likely there for a reason. Especially the full power grenade blanks. I will use them in the golf ball tube. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77421/20180712_102309-605372.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77421/20180712_102314-605373.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Check this out! Blanks for Can Launhers M200 spec blanks Gilf ball launching blanks (Stronger) Even Stronger golf ball blanks Full power M195 “grenade” launching blanks http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/Golf-Ball-Can-launching-Inert-Grenade-Launching_c_15.html If you were launching solid objects (balls, ice/cement/chalk filled cans, etc...) I wonder how powerful of a blank the F5 upper can fire without the barrel exploding. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77421/20180712_102309-605372.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77421/20180712_102314-605373.JPG 
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Posted: 7/12/2018 10:09:57 PM EDT
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Thank you! Got to figure out how to test it for a 100 or so rounds without actually holding the gun. There is a machine shop locally that may be able to make or get me a tube that is 1.79 wide if they can. I may see about a barrel nut and just do it similar to how 5f makes them. I have a spare steel one as well. If they can get the tube made out of steel (ideally stainless) then I'll weld it and make this thing strong as hell. Won't have to worry about it coming apart. Also bought 6 tennis balls today. Filling one with epoxy now. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:43:45 PM EDT
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I have to get the regular ones here and get a feel for the whole thing, but eventually I’d maybe like to make a quasi-mortar with one.
I’m thinking either the regular AR15 type or maybe an AR10. Fab up a base plate and put a ball socket of some kind on the end of a shortened buffer tube. It’d kinda hinge on finding a kit for the legs and sights without paying a fortune. By going to a mortar, you eliminate the felt recoil by putting it on the ground. An AR10 receiver with a stainless launch tube like qwezxc12’s barrel (https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/X-Products-Can-Cannon--now-an-F5-thread-/5-2122881/#i73135020 ) could likely handle full power rifle grenade blanks with ease.  Attached FileYou could use some sabots to help with the pressure, and a full power 7.62 grenade blank and a longer barrel would probably have a much longer range.lol I’ll wait till I make my bones on the regular one like everybody else before I decide though. ETA: not claiming the original idea. I vaguely recall discussing it before. It just stuck in my head. Mighta been Skillets that mentioned it. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 8:29:15 AM EDT
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Now that I have the device in hand, it looks simple enough to copy, so I will probably make one in 308 to go on a spare FAL receiver.
I have a metric tons of 308 blanks. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:07:10 AM EDT
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Now that I have the device in hand, it looks simple enough to copy, so I will probably make one in 308 to go on a spare FAL receiver. I have a metric tons of 308 blanks. 
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:48:01 AM EDT
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Got .223 dies and pistol powder? Not a big deal to make your own to try it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got mine yesterday...blanks not here yet.  |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 2:42:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you crimp the end? I'm using Hornady's blank crimp dies. These... https://www.amazon.com/Hornady-544591-Specialty-Cartridge-Caliber/dp/B003BAELEC I paid right at $95 SHIPPED! I would not buy from amazon today, order elsewhere or wait until amazon gets them back in stock.... |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 4:07:05 PM EDT
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Ordered mine today and picking it and the blanks up after work. Their shop is on my way home
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Posted: 7/13/2018 4:59:51 PM EDT
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@stimpsonjcat I'm using Hornady's blank crimp dies. These... https://www.amazon.com/Hornady-544591-Specialty-Cartridge-Caliber/dp/B003BAELEC I paid right at $95 SHIPPED! I would not buy from amazon today, order elsewhere or wait until amazon gets them back in stock.... |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 5:10:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks man, it's clear you know SOMETHING. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 5:29:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks man, it's clear you know SOMETHING. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 5:34:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand, did I miss something?  I See Nothing - Sgt Schultz |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 5:44:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/13/2018 6:20:39 PM EDT
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Hornady crimp die results. The brass case is loaded, ready to go. The drop of green paint is to seal off the TINY hole in the center, not really needed...
The steel case was a test, it crimped the same as brass, even felt the same on the press stroke. I don't see it damaging the dies in anyway. But, it's Wolf and berdan primed. I'm not investing in berdan tools or primers... I do have some yet to be fired, Tula steel case that's boxer primed. I'll make blanks out of them at some point to try out.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 7:26:47 PM EDT
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You had me at Hornady.
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Posted: 7/13/2018 7:57:16 PM EDT
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Hornady crimp die results. The brass case is loaded, ready to go. The drop of green paint is to seal off the TINY hole in the center, not really needed... The steel case was a test, it crimped the same as brass, even felt the same on the press stroke. I don't see it damaging the dies in anyway. But, it's Wolf and berdan primed. I'm not investing in berdan tools or primers... I do have some yet to be fired, Tula steel case that's boxer primed. I'll make blanks out of them at some point to try out. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/39247/20180713_150506-606568.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/39247/20180713_150552-606570.JPG |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 8:01:07 PM EDT
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Hornady crimp die results. The brass case is loaded, ready to go. The drop of green paint is to seal off the TINY hole in the center, not really needed... The steel case was a test, it crimped the same as brass, even felt the same on the press stroke. I don't see it damaging the dies in anyway. But, it's Wolf and berdan primed. I'm not investing in berdan tools or primers... I do have some yet to be fired, Tula steel case that's boxer primed. I'll make blanks out of them at some point to try out. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/39247/20180713_150506-606568.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/39247/20180713_150552-606570.JPG |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:41:14 PM EDT
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So good news and bad news boys, good news is I stopped by and picked up my can cannon bad news is....
 Attached FileFull disclosure, that is not the door I picked up my can cannon at but I think it’s pretty close to be coincidence |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:15:12 PM EDT
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So good news and bad news boys, good news is I stopped by and picked up my can cannon bad news is....https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284997/2C0B719E-D3C3-4A51-BF7F-20759E37B7E8-606797.JPG Full disclosure, that is not the door I picked up my can cannon at but I think it's pretty close to be coincidence
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:30:34 PM EDT
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Well shit, looks like F5 and x-products are one in the same Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So good news and bad news boys, good news is I stopped by and picked up my can cannon bad news is....https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284997/2C0B719E-D3C3-4A51-BF7F-20759E37B7E8-606797.JPG Full disclosure, that is not the door I picked up my can cannon at but I think it's pretty close to be coincidence F5 makes them and X-products sold them with their logo? Once they pissed people off then F5 just went direct. Could be wrong though. Either way I’m already in, so I’m not going to worry about it, |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:35:56 PM EDT
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So good news and bad news boys, good news is I stopped by and picked up my can cannon bad news is....https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284997/2C0B719E-D3C3-4A51-BF7F-20759E37B7E8-606797.JPG Full disclosure, that is not the door I picked up my can cannon at but I think it’s pretty close to be coincidence |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:37:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could stop by Film Masters and get your windows tinted... they do AWESOME work |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:38:32 PM EDT
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My car and my wife’s 4Runner are already tinted, my 4Runner has shitty tint but it’s a toy that gets beat on so not worried about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Could stop by Film Masters and get your windows tinted... they do AWESOME work |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:39:25 PM EDT
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Private Bullshit!
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:41:48 PM EDT
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I called the guy that I had been emailing, Jeff Milton, he told me to go to A36 or A37 both those doors were locked so he called the guy that was working and that guy was at the machine shop in A4. No signage on any of those doors or the X-Products door.
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:42:57 PM EDT
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I called the guy that I had been emailing, Jeff Milton, he told me to go to A36 or A37 both those doors were locked so he called the guy that was working and that guy was at the machine shop in A4. No signage on any of those doors or the X-Products door. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:43:02 PM EDT
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Well,
Since it looks like it's going to be "Hate on F5/XProducts" time again, might as well share. 
After ordering on Sunday the 1st when their website said 13 were in stock, I still haven't gotten anything. I got immediate notification that a shipping label had been created, could see it on USPS tracking, (still can) and no updates after that. I contacted their customer service through the website contact form on Sunday the 8th, figuring a week, especially considering the 4th of July holiday was Wednesday, was a fair lead time before I started asking questions. I'll note that friends here in WI with me that ordered one on Monday the 2nd had gotten theirs by Friday the 7th... 
I was initially encouraged when Jef" contacted me via email rather quickly by the morning of Monday the 9th, and said he'd look into it and promised me an update sometime in the latter half of the day. He did not respond until 7pm Central my time, 5pm Pacific his time, and that was after I'd prompted him with another email. He said they'd been having problems with USPS and to give it a few more days. So I gave USPS two more days to deliver, Tuesday and Wednesday evening. Nothing. So I contacted him again Wednesday evening after the mail had come, mentioning that I had hoped to use the Can Cannon at a cookout/shoot with other Arfcommers this coming Saturday the 14th (tomorrow) and that almost two weeks seemed more than enough time for it to have gotten to me. And I further mentioned that I'd only really be able to use the Can Cannon at such events, because my neighborhood is far too urban, and my gun club would not allow it. "Jeff" promised to ship one out via FedEx so it would get to me by today. Nada. And now it's Friday night, and I didn't receive any tracking information, and FedEx has nothing on their website's delivery manager subscription page indicating they have anything in transit for my name and address anywhere. So if Jeff or anyone else from F5 is reading this, I don't think F5 is being "rude" or "mean" intentionally here, but I am pretty certain at this point that you are a bunch of fuckups. 
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:49:34 PM EDT
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My car and my wife’s 4Runner are already tinted, my 4Runner has shitty tint but it’s a toy that gets beat on so not worried about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Strange  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:51:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did u go get some ice cream? 
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Posted: 7/13/2018 10:54:16 PM EDT
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Well, Since it looks like it's going to be "Hate on F5/XProducts" time again, might as well share.
After ordering on Sunday the 1st when their website said 13 were in stock, I still haven't gotten anything. I got immediate notification that a shipping label had been created, could see it on USPS tracking, (still can) and no updates after that. I contacted their customer service through the website contact form on Sunday the 8th, figuring a week, especially considering the 4th of July holiday was Wednesday, was a fair lead time before I started asking questions. I'll note that friends here in WI with me that ordered one on Monday the 2nd had gotten theirs by Friday the 7th...
I was initially encouraged when Jef" contacted me via email rather quickly by the morning of Monday the 9th, and said he'd look into it and promised me an update sometime in the latter half of the day. He did not respond until 7pm Central my time, 5pm Pacific his time, and that was after I'd prompted him with another email. He said they'd been having problems with USPS and to give it a few more days. So I gave USPS two more days to deliver, Tuesday and Wednesday evening. Nothing. So I contacted him again Wednesday evening after the mail had come, mentioning that I had hoped to use the Can Cannon at a cookout/shoot with other Arfcommers this coming Saturday the 14th (tomorrow) and that almost two weeks seemed more than enough time for it to have gotten to me. And I further mentioned that I'd only really be able to use the Can Cannon at such events, because my neighborhood is far too urban, and my gun club would not allow it. "Jeff" promised to ship one out via FedEx so it would get to me by today. Nada. And now it's Friday night, and I didn't receive any tracking information, and FedEx has nothing on their website's delivery manager subscription page indicating they have anything in transit for my name and address anywhere. So if Jeff or anyone else from F5 is reading this, I don't think F5 is being "rude" or "mean" intentionally here, but I am pretty certain at this point that you are a bunch of fuckups. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 11:08:15 PM EDT
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I figure that after the X-Products CEO fiasco happened, and they started marketing them at $150 from their F5 front company instead, orders sped up.
At $300 or whatever they sold for under X-Products, sales were slow enough that shitty seat-of-the pants business processes were okay, now that they're $150, they're flying out the door, and they're screwing up. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 11:12:45 PM EDT
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 Attached FileI’ll be getting one of these golf ball launchers to go on my 37mm Poseidon. 
I have their soda can launcher already. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 11:33:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/13/2018 11:43:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/13/2018 11:45:07 PM EDT
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Mine was supposed to ship yesterday or today. Haven’t heard anything. Not stressed I’m about a week away from being able to use it anyway.
Just hope this does not turn into a shit show. Lower, side charger upper, and BCG standing by. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 12:00:11 AM EDT
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That config would really shine with a left side charger that’d clear the launch tube. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 12:04:32 AM EDT
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Sweet! Beer launcher for pirate parties.
That config would really shine with a left side charger that’d clear the launch tube. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 3:20:37 AM EDT
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You don't need to crimp the end if you single load them. You can put a tuft of TP or similar in to keep the powder in. I loaded mine on the spot and didn't bother, just loaded them one at a time with the barrel up so the powder couldn't fall out. Eta, maybe a small roll crimp to ease feeding, just throwing ideas out there. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 4:16:44 AM EDT
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I wonder if you could use a dab of silicone or caulk, in place of the crimp then the cases would still be reloadable, and you would not have to worry about them getting jostled around, and losing the powder.... Eta, maybe a small roll crimp to ease feeding, just throwing ideas out there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't need to crimp the end if you single load them. You can put a tuft of TP or similar in to keep the powder in. I loaded mine on the spot and didn't bother, just loaded them one at a time with the barrel up so the powder couldn't fall out. Eta, maybe a small roll crimp to ease feeding, just throwing ideas out there. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 4:33:02 AM EDT
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Seems like that silicone or caulk would end up jammed and plugged somewhere Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't need to crimp the end if you single load them. You can put a tuft of TP or similar in to keep the powder in. I loaded mine on the spot and didn't bother, just loaded them one at a time with the barrel up so the powder couldn't fall out. Eta, maybe a small roll crimp to ease feeding, just throwing ideas out there. |
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