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Link Posted: 3/20/2022 7:48:17 PM EST
[#1]
Carry what you want.  If you live you'll have your pick of rifles/ammo, etc.  

Adapt, overcome, survive.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:08:16 PM EST
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It’s Sunday morning and the enemy has secretly landed and taken over. You mission is as follows. Don’t fuck this up.


One rifle, in one configuration, with one optic, to do it all. That means no offset dots recce bros!

You’re traveling through suburban neighborhoods then making your way to a vast forest on the way to the radio free America forward operating base.

The entire way is crawling with Russian North Korean Chinese National globalist. You may engage in heavy battles or you may sneak your way through, you’re not really sure.

Choose your weapon carefully patriot.

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No contest, I'd take my franken-AR. It's a 16" build with a Superior Barrels "lightweight" profile .223 Wylde chamber, harris bipod, PDW stock, and a TA33-8. Not much I can't do with that rifle.

Honestly though, against most of those countries, I'd just wait until dark to put on my PVS7's and walk out.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:08:39 PM EST
[#3]
Ar15 with ta31frmr
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:09:27 PM EST
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Suppressed 22 pistol and a good pair of running shoes and a fem hipster outfit for social camouflage.
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This guy has his shit together. 100%. Urban camouflage.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:11:19 PM EST
[#5]
Daisy 880
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:12:31 PM EST
[#6]
When I need one, there’ll be plenty of ‘em lyin’ around.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:37:29 PM EST
[#7]
SR762
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Or since I’m not going anyplace fast maybe something with more range.
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Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:48:35 PM EST
[#8]

This one...
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 8:59:46 PM EST
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don't forget your grappling hook and 500' of rope
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1 rifle? This is gd. Everyone is a millionaire with a super model wife. I can carry 6 rifles, 4 pistols, 87 mags,1000 rds of ammo,  2 months of food, 5 gallons of water, full plate carrier, and my Victoria secret model mistress.


don't forget your grappling hook and 500' of rope


Recommendations on grappling hooks please.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 9:22:35 PM EST
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You may or may not be able to slip away unnoticed……..
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I'm back and forth on this.

On the one hand,  I've got a recon-ish 5.56 midlength with a 1.15-4 LPVO, which I've spent a lot of time training with. As long as the hordes of Russians can wait until my can gets out of jail,  I should be set.

On the other hand, for something like this where i'm running alone, the logic from Tunnel in the Sky of taking nothing and avoiding contact seems to keep creeping in.


You may or may not be able to slip away unnoticed……..


If you're out playing alone, you'd better hope to not be noticed. You're not going to Ghost Recon thirty Russians in an abandoned castle all by your lonesome.

Don't look at me. Take it up with the OP. He wrote it.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 9:28:03 PM EST
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M60. No optic.

Since no one else is playing by the rules.
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Might as well go top tier and say M134 mini gun
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 9:30:35 PM EST
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Interesting mix between red dots and lvpo/variable optics.

Seems the the lvpo crew is winning that one.
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It's a more flexible optic.  You did say "only one rifle".
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 9:33:37 PM EST
[#13]
I have my Ruger 10/22 Takedown in its bag with a mounted scope, spare magazines and an extra barrel. Also in the bag is my Ruger SR22 along with its extra magazines and a few hundred rounds of CCI.

Nice, convenient, compact package.

Link Posted: 3/20/2022 9:37:53 PM EST
[#14]
You lost me at walking. Bug in or bug out a basic AR w TA33 optic.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 9:39:05 PM EST
[#15]
I'll go with what I have.  Ar15 and a quality red dot.
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 9:53:21 PM EST
[#16]
11.5" supressed AR with eotech

Pistol, P226 in .40
Link Posted: 3/20/2022 10:07:36 PM EST
[#17]
either this:



or this:

Link Posted: 3/20/2022 11:49:24 PM EST
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Okay I'm bugging out in a tank now
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In this thread everyone should be UNGOVERNABLE, meaning, fuck the rules!

Okay I'm bugging out in a tank now


Where the fuck did you get a tank???

Link Posted: 3/21/2022 1:36:06 AM EST
[#19]
My Stoner 63A in Commando configuration. Its a lot easier to carry lots of ammo when its belted. Firepower for a fire fight, this is what you need.


Link Posted: 3/21/2022 7:34:17 AM EST
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FN-FAL with iron sights, baby poop camo, and short shorts. Time to be a man among men and kill a commie for mommy.
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I’m going to go with this.   Since there’s a good chance I’m going to die in whatever this SHTF scenario turns out to be, might as well go out like a boss and looking totally bad ass.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 7:46:36 AM EST
[#21]
So based on a lot of the replies I can only assume I don't have to be able to read or comprehend the OP.

I would take a really fast tank in God mode and drive in a straight line.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 7:51:27 AM EST
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6920 with Aimpoint PRO.
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This.  Suppressed.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:16:20 AM EST
[#23]
Literally any of my rifles (doubley so for AR patterns) will suffice.

I can always bootstrap using scavenged enemy kit.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:30:16 AM EST
[#24]
Rough one. I’d be using a different rifle to get out of my city than I would once I got out to the boonies.

If I could only grab one, it’d be my 16” lightweight with an LPVO.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:32:29 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:35:28 AM EST
[#26]
I'm going to contrast this with what I am seeing overseas right now, since they are doing their own Red Dawn thing.

Firstly, you have to bug out. Your house has been shelled, your supplies are gone, and the city is under attack.

Secondly, there are no friendlies, per se. Rooskies on one side, and the Neo Nazi criminal element on the other. Shit sandwich.

Point in your favor. They are all spread a little thin. Most you might encounter is two, maybe three. They may or may not have a heavy vehicle, but you're not attacking that. You are waiting for them to dismount.

Your cheap ass vortex magnifier is toast, good thing you have that lifetime warranty, right?

You need this to survive.

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You have to hide it.

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Most of this stuff will disappear into a backpack, or under a coat. SBR would not be my first choice, but I am not staying to fight. Trying to get to safety, maybe to the mountains. Sucks, but it is what it is.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:37:43 AM EST
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It’s Sunday morning and the enemy has secretly landed and taken over. You mission is as follows. Don’t fuck this up.


One rifle, in one configuration, with one optic, to do it all. That means no offset dots recce bros!

You’re traveling through suburban neighborhoods then making your way to a vast forest on the way to the radio free America forward operating base.

The entire way is crawling with Russian North Korean Chinese National globalist. You may engage in heavy battles or you may sneak your way through, you’re not really sure.

Choose your weapon carefully patriot.

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I've never understood these anti-Mitty fantasy questions... "You get X of X for X reason, what is your choice"

Uh, no.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:50:19 AM EST
[#28]
I'm having a hard time thinking of why I'm bugging out.  But even if I do, what I take would depend on the threat.  Wife and kids are my first concern....and where are we going?  Are we driving or walking?  Are we fighting another country or is this some terrorist attack? Also, are we picking from what I have, or can I pick anything?

Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:56:50 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/21/2022 8:57:52 AM EST
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Link Posted: 3/21/2022 9:02:41 AM EST
[#31]
Bug out to where? I'm already here! If the Russian chinese koreans are here...... Its because they're lost as fk ??


But I guess if I have to play and play by the rules.... Ar-10 with its big supressor in 6.5 creedmoor with idk whatever scope is currently on it. Some Nikon I think. Beause the only place to go from here is up into the mountains and from up there I can see the whole valley.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 12:32:08 PM EST
[#32]
Suppressed Ruger 10-22 with a 4x14 scope.  I can hunt with it, plus I could use it to acquire a larger caliber firearm later.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 2:36:37 PM EST
[#33]
Game time decision between the BCM MK2 BFH 11.5" Carbine, the BCM MK2 BFH 14.5" Mid Length (ELW) setup as a recce rifle with a LPVO, or the 10.3" Colt Monolithic LE6945CK. The Colt's a heavy bastard, and I wouldn't be super excited about having a shit ton of picatinny rails tearing shit up, and getting caught on everything.

An AK might not be a bad choice considering all the loaded magazines I'd be able to pick up along the way. There's also the PSAV-9 with the benefit of being able to carry twice as much ammo. The PSA KS-47 might be the best choice with all the benefits of the AR platform, and the added benefit of being able to use pick up AK magazines.

I'll undoubtedly be killed standing in front of my safes trying to decide which rifle to grab, or in front of my closet trying to decide which camo pattern to wear. Whoever shoots me in the back will feel like they won the lottery when they start going through all my shit.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 2:51:15 PM EST
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Meh, it depends, if I am doing this here in Alaska, well I am taking my ELR rifle and my Glock 20..Stateside...likely the same..

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Link Posted: 3/21/2022 3:22:56 PM EST
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I'm going to contrast this with what I am seeing overseas right now, since they are doing their own Red Dawn thing.

Firstly, you have to bug out. Your house has been shelled, your supplies are gone, and the city is under attack.

Secondly, there are no friendlies, per se. Rooskies on one side, and the Neo Nazi criminal element on the other. Shit sandwich.

Point in your favor. They are all spread a little thin. Most you might encounter is two, maybe three. They may or may not have a heavy vehicle, but you're not attacking that. You are waiting for them to dismount.

Your cheap ass vortex magnifier is toast, good thing you have that lifetime warranty, right?

You need this to survive.

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You have to hide it.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/453455/IMG_20220321_092949_jpg-2321155.JPG

Most of this stuff will disappear into a backpack, or under a coat. SBR would not be my first choice, but I am not staying to fight. Trying to get to safety, maybe to the mountains. Sucks, but it is what it is.
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Solid assessment. My humble opinion (means nothing) is low pro as possible. Simplest load out, and in this exercise I’m def wearing a low pro carrier vs chest rig.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 3:25:09 PM EST
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That Langdon though
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 3:44:13 PM EST
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16" 5.56 AR with LPVO.

If you have to do everything, it will do everything, just not QCB as well.

And I'll be bringing a .22lr conversion kit so I can carry a ton more ammo for subsistence hunting.
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Interesting, but a mag of subsonic 5.56 would take up less room and do the same thing.


I'd go with my primary AR. 16" PSA pencil barrel upper on a KP15, Leupold 2.5x20, Streamlight Polytac and a sling. Since my escape will be more of a hobble the light weight is nice. I want to get the latching rear plate from KE and stick some stuff in there.

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Second choice would be either my unfinished lightweight DMR with a 2-10 or my .44 Henry for style points. Killing commies with a lever gun is pretty damn American. ??
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 4:37:34 PM EST
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It sounds like I’ll be on foot in your scenario and if it’s crawling with Russians whatever I take has to be concealable.

I’ll go with an HK MP5k (with the telescopic B&T stock) and classy as fuck leather shoulder holster setup.

Link Posted: 3/21/2022 4:49:38 PM EST
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Where the fuck did you get a tank???

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Took it from a dead Russian Major.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 4:52:28 PM EST
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.308 / 7.62 NATO semi-auto rifle with ACOG

SCAR 17, HK MR762

Only downside is the availability of magazines.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 4:56:19 PM EST
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"King of the Wild Frontier"
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 11:15:52 PM EST
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14.5 SR15 with NX8 and T1 on ring mount
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I like it!

I'm going with 16" with 1-8.5 Bushnell SMRS, surefire, and a mag of 75 Gold Dots.
Link Posted: 3/21/2022 11:33:32 PM EST
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So based on a lot of the replies I can only assume I don't have to be able to read or comprehend the OP.

I would take a really fast tank in God mode and drive in a straight line.
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I pick a tractor and a keltec sub2000.

Checkmate.  
Link Posted: 3/22/2022 1:06:28 AM EST
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LW AR with .22 kit and can.

All the loaded mags my tactical wheelbarrow will hold.

Link Posted: 3/22/2022 3:40:54 PM EST
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16” 5.56mm AR outfitted how I like it. Optic: 1-6 LPVO.
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This, with a suppressor.

I would be transported in a donkey cart with sticks piled on top of me for camouflage.
I saw on the Mogadishu documentary that no one shoots the donkey or cart as it travels through various gunbattles.
Link Posted: 3/22/2022 5:26:28 PM EST
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I built a 12.5" lightweight AR for this purpose.

It has a small ACOG right now. But I could possibly switch to an PA Prism on it.
Link Posted: 3/23/2022 1:05:38 PM EST
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I’m going to go with this.   Since there’s a good chance I’m going to die in whatever this SHTF scenario turns out to be, might as well go out like a boss and looking totally bad ass.
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FN-FAL with iron sights, baby poop camo, and short shorts. Time to be a man among men and kill a commie for mommy.


I’m going to go with this.   Since there’s a good chance I’m going to die in whatever this SHTF scenario turns out to be, might as well go out like a boss and looking totally bad ass.

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Link Posted: 3/23/2022 1:08:06 PM EST
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I just might have a newcomer to surpass my iwi Galil. Just got this. M4A1 SoCom.   I need to put my t33 on it and maybe a trigger swap. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 3/23/2022 1:14:25 PM EST
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I'm in the FAL group also. Love my 18" barreled one.

Link Posted: 3/23/2022 1:16:27 PM EST
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I use my General Purpose build AR15, which is a BCM 16" MCMR upper and lower with the mid length gas system and hammer forged barrel.

It uses a Steiner P4xi LPVO with an offset Aimpoint T1.  I also have a Steiner DBAL A3 on it and Surefire M300V.  

The Steiner P4xi is a good LPVO, it's rugged and if I did run out of batteries in the field it's still real nice to use even with just daylight conditions.  The Aimpoint runs for years, but if that got taken down due to EMP or something I'd still have the LPVO to work with I just couldn't practically passively aim with Night Vision, but if all electronics were taken down my PVS14 probably isn't working anyways.  

I don't like ACOGs, the eye relief on them sucks IMO.  Otherwise, they'd make a good SHTF optic, but I can't get past that shitty eye relief.  Red dots are fine, but magnifiers add weight and without them my 44 year old eyes aren't super sharp at distance anymore.  The LPVO is a good to go option in my humble opinion even if they're not as rugged as an ACOG.

In terms of barrel length, I think 16" is a good OAL for field and urban.  It does leave some want when it comes to tight quarters and vehicle ops, but there is a trade off for everything.

I think having an AR is the way to go.  One of the biggest issues in a conflict and I think we're going to see in the AARs from the Ukrainians and Russians is IFF.  A person's weapon is a real easy way to identify them as friend or foe when a lot of people may have very similar camo uniforms on.  Plus, being unbale to predict what invading force will be using (will it be Chinese, Russian, someone else) I don't think you can depend on one type of enemy weapon for resupply so your next best bet is what is most common domestically.

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